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frankinvestor
schrieb am 17.09.08 10:38:59
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Beginn einer NEUEN Zeitrechnung...unter JPMorgan ?
Bitte nur FUNDIERTES einstellen !!!
Viel Glück ALLEN NEUEN im FORUM...
Bitte nur FUNDIERTES einstellen !!!
Viel Glück ALLEN NEUEN im FORUM...
frankinvestor
schrieb am 17.09.08 10:41:12
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Hier nochmal d. FAKTEN:
Presse: JPMorgan hat Interesse an Washington Mutual
10:20 17.09.08
New York, NY (aktiencheck.de AG) - Die US-Bankgesellschaft JPMorgan Chase & Co. (Profil) hat Presseangaben zufolge Interesse an einer Übernahme der Washington Mutual Inc. (Profil).
Wie die britischen Zeitung "Daily Mail" am Dienstagabend in ihrer Online-Ausgabe berichtete, wird JPMorgan voraussichtlich ein Übernahmeangebot für die angeschlagene Sparkasse - die größte in den USA - vorlegen. Die Parteien würden sich dabei bereits in fortgeschrittenen Verhandlungen befinden, hieß es.
Die Aktie von JPMorgan schloss gestern an der NYSE bei 40,74 Dollar, die von Washington Mutual bei 2,32 Dollar. (17.09.2008/ac/n/a)
Presse: JPMorgan hat Interesse an Washington Mutual
10:20 17.09.08
New York, NY (aktiencheck.de AG) - Die US-Bankgesellschaft JPMorgan Chase & Co. (Profil) hat Presseangaben zufolge Interesse an einer Übernahme der Washington Mutual Inc. (Profil).
Wie die britischen Zeitung "Daily Mail" am Dienstagabend in ihrer Online-Ausgabe berichtete, wird JPMorgan voraussichtlich ein Übernahmeangebot für die angeschlagene Sparkasse - die größte in den USA - vorlegen. Die Parteien würden sich dabei bereits in fortgeschrittenen Verhandlungen befinden, hieß es.
Die Aktie von JPMorgan schloss gestern an der NYSE bei 40,74 Dollar, die von Washington Mutual bei 2,32 Dollar. (17.09.2008/ac/n/a)
frankinvestor
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frankinvestor
schrieb am 17.09.08 11:00:49
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Hier die NEWS:
Steht doch klar geschrieben...
JPMorgan Chase in new bid for Washington Mutual
Last updated at 10:46 AM on 16th September 2008
Jamie Dimon’s JPMorgan Chase is expected to make a new bid for Washington Mutual, the biggest building society in the US, after its credit rating was cut to junk by Standard & Poor’s.
The Wall Street bank, which bought Bear Stearns earlier this year, is said to be in 'advanced talks' over buying the Seattle-based firm.
Dimon is understood to be dealing with the matter personally, and to be in talks with WaMu chief Alan Fishman.
Jamie Dimon
Bid: JPMorgan Chase's Jamie Dimon is expected to make a new bid for Washington Mutual
He reportedly approached WaMu earlier this year but was rebuffed.
He is said to have offered a stock-swap buyout at $8 a share.
The current share price is $2, giving the company a market capitalisation of $3.40 billion (£1.89 billion).
WaMu went instead with a $7 billion financing, selling a 13% stake to TPG Capital that valued WaMu at $8.75 a share.
The share price has since fallen heavily. S&P has put the building society on notice for possible future downgrades.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/article-1056491/JPMorgan-Ch…
Steht doch klar geschrieben...
JPMorgan Chase in new bid for Washington Mutual
Last updated at 10:46 AM on 16th September 2008
Jamie Dimon’s JPMorgan Chase is expected to make a new bid for Washington Mutual, the biggest building society in the US, after its credit rating was cut to junk by Standard & Poor’s.
The Wall Street bank, which bought Bear Stearns earlier this year, is said to be in 'advanced talks' over buying the Seattle-based firm.
Dimon is understood to be dealing with the matter personally, and to be in talks with WaMu chief Alan Fishman.
Jamie Dimon
Bid: JPMorgan Chase's Jamie Dimon is expected to make a new bid for Washington Mutual
He reportedly approached WaMu earlier this year but was rebuffed.
He is said to have offered a stock-swap buyout at $8 a share.
The current share price is $2, giving the company a market capitalisation of $3.40 billion (£1.89 billion).
WaMu went instead with a $7 billion financing, selling a 13% stake to TPG Capital that valued WaMu at $8.75 a share.
The share price has since fallen heavily. S&P has put the building society on notice for possible future downgrades.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/article-1056491/JPMorgan-Ch…
frankinvestor
schrieb am 17.09.08 11:19:23
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Einfach LESEN:
Hier werden viele Fragen beantwortet:
WaMu's $143 Billion Retail Deposit Base May Buy Time (Update2)
By Ari Levy
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Sept. 16 (Bloomberg) -- Washington Mutual Inc.'s $143 billion in retail deposits may buy Chief Executive Officer Alan Fishman enough time to prove wrong speculators who say the bank will follow Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. into oblivion.
The reason: WaMu, the biggest U.S. savings and loan, funds its daily business with federally insured deposits at its 2,300 branches, instead of short-term lending from other companies. With no sign that customers are defecting, and another $50 billion on hand for liquidity, newly hired Fishman may ride out the turmoil that halved WaMu's market value in a week. The stock rose 16 percent today after plunging 27 percent yesterday.
``It takes millions of people making that decision to drive the bank under, as opposed to three banks with exposure to Lehman that say they don't want to renew loans,'' said Charles Haley, professor emeritus of finance at the University of Washington's Foster School of Business in Seattle. ``It's a very different scenario.''
WaMu shares jumped after the company said Standard & Poor's decision yesterday to cut the lender's credit rating to junk, matching a move by Moody's last week, won't have a ``material'' effect. WaMu rose 32 cents to $2.32 as of 4:07 p.m. on the New York Stock Exchange. The stock tumbled yesterday as Lehman filed for bankruptcy and Merrill Lynch & Co. agreed to sell itself to Bank of America Corp. for $50 billion.
WaMu spokesman Brad Russell declined to comment.
No JPMorgan Talks
WaMu's sinking market value leaves it worth close to the $4 a share that JPMorgan Chase & Co. was willing to pay in March, reviving speculation that Fishman may put the entire bank up for sale. JPMorgan isn't in talks to acquire Seattle-based WaMu, a person briefed on the matter said Sept. 12.
``You're going to buy Washington Mutual, if it's bought, for its retail deposit franchise,'' Howard Shapiro, a Fox-Pitt Kelton Cochran Waller analyst who rates WaMu ``outperform,'' told Bloomberg Radio. Branches in California, Florida, Texas and New York ``are all very attractive'' for a suitor, he said.
S&P acknowledged that WaMu's deposit base is stable, saying in its statement about the downgrade yesterday that the company has enough liquidity to meet all fixed obligations through 2010. ``The bank is operating with adequate capital positions from a regulatory perspective and has demonstrated funding resilience as the deposit franchise has remained stable,'' S&P said.
`Happy Thoughts'
Investors have soured on WaMu on concern mounting losses from subprime and option adjustable-rate mortgages may force the bank to raise more capital, diluting existing holders' stakes. WaMu said last week that retail deposits are unchanged from a year earlier, down 4.4 percent from June, and that the bank has plenty of cash to operate as it works through losses.
``This is a great time to build a company,'' Fishman said in a Sept. 8 interview.
WaMu's main regulator, the Office of Thrift Supervision, is watching the situation. ``We're aware of the situation and we are monitoring it closely,'' OTS spokesman Bill Ruberry said today in a telephone interview.
WaMu management is trying to reassure employees.
``Think Happy Thoughts,'' Bob Bjorklund, an executive in the bank's Capital Strategies department, told staff in an e- mail on Sept. 12, the Seattle Times reported. ``It's going to be ugly out there today and over the next several weeks, but when in doubt, repeat after me: ``$50 billion dollars.''
CD Rates
The plunge in WaMu's stock price will make it harder for the company to raise fresh capital, a step the lender says it doesn't need to take because it has that $50 billion on hand. Still, analysts including Bert Ely, president of Ely & Co. in Alexandria, Virginia, have said WaMu may be forced to sell branches in New York and Chicago.
WaMu's sliding stock price may prompt concern by customers that the bank is in trouble, said Sean Egan, president of Egan- Jones Ratings Co. in Haverford, Pennsylvania.
``Anyone who picks up the paper can see WaMu has lost more than 80 percent of its market capitalization over the past year,'' Egan said. ``Rest assured, depositors are looking at that and growing anxious.''
WaMu uses money that consumers deposit in savings accounts and certificates of deposit to lend to other customers, primarily for mortgages. At the end of June, WaMu customers had 42.4 million accounts, almost all with less than the federally insured maximum of $100,000, according to data from the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.
To attract deposits, WaMu offers higher CD rates than competitors. The bank offers a 4.25 percent eight-month CD online. Bank of America pays 3.2 percent for a seven-month term. Wells Fargo & Co.'s rates on five- and nine-month CDs are less than 3 percent.
The deposits may not be enough to save WaMu because of the prospect for losses on subprime loans, said Donald Putnam, managing partner at Grail Partners LLC in San Francisco. WaMu expects up to $19 billion in losses over the next 2 1/2 years.
Fishman remains confident.
``I only have five or six complex risks that I have to manage,'' he said in a Sept. 8 interview. ``Another guy's got 400 complex risks, like derivatives books in Belgium and God knows what all.''
To contact the reporters on this story: Ari Levy in San Francisco at alevy5@bloomberg.net
Last Updated: September 16, 2008 16:09 EDT
Hier werden viele Fragen beantwortet:
WaMu's $143 Billion Retail Deposit Base May Buy Time (Update2)
By Ari Levy
Enlarge Image/Details
Sept. 16 (Bloomberg) -- Washington Mutual Inc.'s $143 billion in retail deposits may buy Chief Executive Officer Alan Fishman enough time to prove wrong speculators who say the bank will follow Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. into oblivion.
The reason: WaMu, the biggest U.S. savings and loan, funds its daily business with federally insured deposits at its 2,300 branches, instead of short-term lending from other companies. With no sign that customers are defecting, and another $50 billion on hand for liquidity, newly hired Fishman may ride out the turmoil that halved WaMu's market value in a week. The stock rose 16 percent today after plunging 27 percent yesterday.
``It takes millions of people making that decision to drive the bank under, as opposed to three banks with exposure to Lehman that say they don't want to renew loans,'' said Charles Haley, professor emeritus of finance at the University of Washington's Foster School of Business in Seattle. ``It's a very different scenario.''
WaMu shares jumped after the company said Standard & Poor's decision yesterday to cut the lender's credit rating to junk, matching a move by Moody's last week, won't have a ``material'' effect. WaMu rose 32 cents to $2.32 as of 4:07 p.m. on the New York Stock Exchange. The stock tumbled yesterday as Lehman filed for bankruptcy and Merrill Lynch & Co. agreed to sell itself to Bank of America Corp. for $50 billion.
WaMu spokesman Brad Russell declined to comment.
No JPMorgan Talks
WaMu's sinking market value leaves it worth close to the $4 a share that JPMorgan Chase & Co. was willing to pay in March, reviving speculation that Fishman may put the entire bank up for sale. JPMorgan isn't in talks to acquire Seattle-based WaMu, a person briefed on the matter said Sept. 12.
``You're going to buy Washington Mutual, if it's bought, for its retail deposit franchise,'' Howard Shapiro, a Fox-Pitt Kelton Cochran Waller analyst who rates WaMu ``outperform,'' told Bloomberg Radio. Branches in California, Florida, Texas and New York ``are all very attractive'' for a suitor, he said.
S&P acknowledged that WaMu's deposit base is stable, saying in its statement about the downgrade yesterday that the company has enough liquidity to meet all fixed obligations through 2010. ``The bank is operating with adequate capital positions from a regulatory perspective and has demonstrated funding resilience as the deposit franchise has remained stable,'' S&P said.
`Happy Thoughts'
Investors have soured on WaMu on concern mounting losses from subprime and option adjustable-rate mortgages may force the bank to raise more capital, diluting existing holders' stakes. WaMu said last week that retail deposits are unchanged from a year earlier, down 4.4 percent from June, and that the bank has plenty of cash to operate as it works through losses.
``This is a great time to build a company,'' Fishman said in a Sept. 8 interview.
WaMu's main regulator, the Office of Thrift Supervision, is watching the situation. ``We're aware of the situation and we are monitoring it closely,'' OTS spokesman Bill Ruberry said today in a telephone interview.
WaMu management is trying to reassure employees.
``Think Happy Thoughts,'' Bob Bjorklund, an executive in the bank's Capital Strategies department, told staff in an e- mail on Sept. 12, the Seattle Times reported. ``It's going to be ugly out there today and over the next several weeks, but when in doubt, repeat after me: ``$50 billion dollars.''
CD Rates
The plunge in WaMu's stock price will make it harder for the company to raise fresh capital, a step the lender says it doesn't need to take because it has that $50 billion on hand. Still, analysts including Bert Ely, president of Ely & Co. in Alexandria, Virginia, have said WaMu may be forced to sell branches in New York and Chicago.
WaMu's sliding stock price may prompt concern by customers that the bank is in trouble, said Sean Egan, president of Egan- Jones Ratings Co. in Haverford, Pennsylvania.
``Anyone who picks up the paper can see WaMu has lost more than 80 percent of its market capitalization over the past year,'' Egan said. ``Rest assured, depositors are looking at that and growing anxious.''
WaMu uses money that consumers deposit in savings accounts and certificates of deposit to lend to other customers, primarily for mortgages. At the end of June, WaMu customers had 42.4 million accounts, almost all with less than the federally insured maximum of $100,000, according to data from the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.
To attract deposits, WaMu offers higher CD rates than competitors. The bank offers a 4.25 percent eight-month CD online. Bank of America pays 3.2 percent for a seven-month term. Wells Fargo & Co.'s rates on five- and nine-month CDs are less than 3 percent.
The deposits may not be enough to save WaMu because of the prospect for losses on subprime loans, said Donald Putnam, managing partner at Grail Partners LLC in San Francisco. WaMu expects up to $19 billion in losses over the next 2 1/2 years.
Fishman remains confident.
``I only have five or six complex risks that I have to manage,'' he said in a Sept. 8 interview. ``Another guy's got 400 complex risks, like derivatives books in Belgium and God knows what all.''
To contact the reporters on this story: Ari Levy in San Francisco at alevy5@bloomberg.net
Last Updated: September 16, 2008 16:09 EDT
avramkatzenberg
schrieb am 17.09.08 11:22:11
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die Lehmann Brothers-Pleite hat natürlich auch alle anderen Banken
betroffen, ganz klar. WaMu ebenso. Aber die Situation einer WaMu
ist nicht wirklich schlechter als die vieler anderen Gro0ßbanken in
Amerika, im Gegenteil sie ist sogar in erster Linie aufgrund des
Filialnetzes sogar noch besser...
Trotzdem wurde WaMu extrem abgestraft über 95% tiefer als vor der BEGINN DER KRISE.
Das Interesse von JP MOrgan ist also verständlich, eine Bank mit riesigem Privatkundengeschäft mit einem extrem weit verzweigtem Filialnetz zum Spottpreis, weil die Bank sich selbst in Schwierigkeiten gebracht hat.
Ein klares Zeichen für eine bevorstehende Übernahme ist der Weggang vom langjährigen CEO Killinger, der noch Anfang des Jahres das $8-Dollar je Aktie Angebot von JP Morgan abgelehnt hatte.
Neuer CEO Alan Fishman wird im Gegensatz zu Killinger mehr und intensiver mit JP Morgan verhandeln, denn er hat auch schon bei seinen vorherigen Stationen als Chef Übernahmen -und oder Fusionen von bzw, mit anderen Banken auf die Beine gestellt.
Die Frage ist nun was ist JP Morgan bereit vieleicht noch mehr zu zahlen als $8 und wie würde der Kurs reagieren?
Es kommt auf die Modalitäten der Übernahmen an, aber sollte es ähnlich wie bei Bank of America und Merril Lynch laufen sehe ich selbst bei einem $10 Angebot je Aktie keine Kurse über $5...
Aber auch mit diesen $5 wäre ich persönlich zufriden, da ich ausgestoppt wurde beim Crash letzte Woche (20% Verlust) und neu rein bin bei 1.31 Euro...
Allen anderen Viel Glück
schaut mal wie Ambac abging von ihrem Tiefsstand vor ein paar Monaten...
Trotzdem wurde WaMu extrem abgestraft über 95% tiefer als vor der BEGINN DER KRISE.
Das Interesse von JP MOrgan ist also verständlich, eine Bank mit riesigem Privatkundengeschäft mit einem extrem weit verzweigtem Filialnetz zum Spottpreis, weil die Bank sich selbst in Schwierigkeiten gebracht hat.
Ein klares Zeichen für eine bevorstehende Übernahme ist der Weggang vom langjährigen CEO Killinger, der noch Anfang des Jahres das $8-Dollar je Aktie Angebot von JP Morgan abgelehnt hatte.
Neuer CEO Alan Fishman wird im Gegensatz zu Killinger mehr und intensiver mit JP Morgan verhandeln, denn er hat auch schon bei seinen vorherigen Stationen als Chef Übernahmen -und oder Fusionen von bzw, mit anderen Banken auf die Beine gestellt.
Die Frage ist nun was ist JP Morgan bereit vieleicht noch mehr zu zahlen als $8 und wie würde der Kurs reagieren?
Es kommt auf die Modalitäten der Übernahmen an, aber sollte es ähnlich wie bei Bank of America und Merril Lynch laufen sehe ich selbst bei einem $10 Angebot je Aktie keine Kurse über $5...
Aber auch mit diesen $5 wäre ich persönlich zufriden, da ich ausgestoppt wurde beim Crash letzte Woche (20% Verlust) und neu rein bin bei 1.31 Euro...
Allen anderen Viel Glück
schaut mal wie Ambac abging von ihrem Tiefsstand vor ein paar Monaten...
frankinvestor
schrieb am 17.09.08 11:27:37
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frankinvestor
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frankinvestor
schrieb am 17.09.08 11:44:29
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D. IST ERST DER ANFANG...
Börsenplatz: Frankfurt
letzter Kurs: 1,790 EUR vom 17.09.2008, 11:41:31
D. IST ERST DER ANFANG...
wiener9
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