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schrieb am 08.08.03 02:37:23
@Gabi, du wolltest doch keine ´kleinlichen Streits´ hier. Warum
fängst du jetzt ebenfalls mit solch einer
Totschläger-Argumentationstechnik an?
@M_III, wann verstehst du endlich, dass es einfach schlechter Stil
ist, auf den Fehlern und schlechten Erfahrungen anderer
rumzureiten. Aber um deine Frage zu beantworten. Einige Tausend
Euro zu verlieren ist nicht sonderlich schön. Und dann verbucht man
es unter Erfahrungen sammeln.
Nicht das es mich sonderlich interessiert. Aber manchmal frage ich
mich, was du für eine Persönlichkeit bist und wie es wohl wäre,
dich als Arbeitskollegen zu haben. Und dann gruselt es mich.
Besser werden eure Argumente dadurch jedenfalls nicht.
M_III, wie kommst du eigendlich drauf, dass ich irgend einer Firma
den Bankrott wünsche. Das Leute den Job verlieren und ein Haufen
Anleger ihr Kleingeld? Weil ich dich und deine Argumentationart
nicht sonderlich schätze? Da nimmst du dich ein wenig zu
wichtig.
Und wieso MVIS ´schlecht´ machen? M_III, wer austeilen kann sollte
auch einstecken können. Ich denke das sind alles ´begründete
Zweifel´ an euren Argumentationen und an der Darstellung von
einigen ´Argumenten´.
MVIS ist halt nicht die baldige Weltfirma mit reifer unschlagbarer
Technik, als die du sie darstellst. Und wer hier Geld reinsteckt
sollte sich aller Risiken incl. ihrer Größe zumindest bewusst sein.
schrieb am 08.08.03 10:18:36
Ich führe keine nonsens-Diskussionen, nur soviel: Sich ein Urteil
über jmd über WO zu bilden ist eigenartig. Hier geht es um
Sachdiskussionen. Mein angeblich schlimmer Charakter wurde v.a. von
Euch ALIFern kritisiert! Was ist denn über das Handeln von Herrn
Ottmar Renz zu sagen, und v.a. über das jahrelange Handeln &
"Wirken" von Herrn "Prof" Schöneburg?
Deine begründeten Zweifel akzeptiert jeder Investor, sind
hinlänglich bekannt, muß jeder mit seinem eigenen Riskmanagement
vereinbaren. MVIS ist eben höheres Risiko, höhere Chancen. Für mich
selber ist das Risiko geringer, weil ich mich bei MVIS ordentlich
auskenne.
Die Technik ist schlicht und ergreifend einfach genial und derzeit
"unschlagbar", da muß ich Dir einfach widersprechen. Es gibt
niemanden, der RSD hat! Tatsache!
Noch ist MVIS keine weltfirma, aber sie kann es werden.
Mittlerweile, da wiederhole ich mich zum x-ten mal, aber das
Argument ist eben stichhaltig, hat man 2 absolut markttaugliche und
vom Markt angenommene Produkte, und es sind ein Vielfaches an
weiteren, anderen Applikationen im Anmarsch, ebenfalls Tatsache.
Nur: um dort mitreden zu können und zu argumentieren muß man eben
sich auch etwas mit MVIS beschäftigen (es sollte selbstverständlich
sein, dass man sich Gedanken macht, wo man sein Geld reinsteckt)!
Die Wahrscheinlichkeit ist hoch, dass einige der kommenden
Applikationen einschlagen werden, und zwar gewaltig. Der Zeitraum
ist unbekannt, klar. Kann dauern, kann aber auch ganz schnell gehen
(warum sieht man seit Monaten keine Insidersells mehr?). Eine
Firma, die mehrere, verschiedene Produkte im Massenmarkt hat, ist
de facto eine Weltfirma.
schrieb am 08.08.03 11:54:40
...Deine begründeten Zweifel akzeptiert jeder Investor, sind
hinlänglich bekannt, muß jeder mit seinem eigenen Riskmanagement
vereinbaren. MVIS ist eben höheres Risiko, höhere Chancen. Für mich
selber ist das Risiko geringer, weil ich mich bei MVIS ordentlich
auskenne...
na also, ich dachte schon, ich mache MVIS nur schlecht. Betreffs
des Risikos unterliegst du einem kleinen Gedankenfehler. Das Risiko
wird nicht geringer, nur weil man das Risiko kennt. Dass
Verlustrisiko beim Lotto spielen wird auch nicht geringer, nur weil
man weiss, dass hohe Wahrscheinlichkeiten dagegenstehen. Es kommt
nur nicht so überraschend.
...Noch ist MVIS keine weltfirma, aber sie kann es werden...
...Eine Firma, die mehrere, verschiedene Produkte im Massenmarkt
hat, ist de facto eine Weltfirma...
na was denn nun? MVIS hat anscheinend 2 Produkte. Aber weder für
einen Massenmarkt, noch kann man von einem sonderlich hohen Umsatz
derselben reden. Und woher du deinen Glauben nimmst, dass irgend
eine Entwicklung irgendwann tatsächlich wie eine Bombe einschlägt
und den Markt beherrschen wird, ist mir immer noch ein Rätsel.
Und weisst du was. Wenn MVIS tatsächlich mal nachhaltig Umsatz
erzielt und vielleicht auch nur in die Nähe von Gewinn (und nicht
nur Gewinnerzielungsabsicht) kommen wird, vielleicht kauf ich mir
dann auch ein paar. Aber das wird noch lange dauern schätz ich
mal.
Im Moment (wie die letzten Jahre) ist das für mich noch eine viel
zu hoch bewertete Entwicklungsfirma, die noch in keinster Weise
bewiesen hat, dass ihre ´tollen´ Entwicklungen jemals vom Markt
akzeptiert werden bzw. überhaupt die notwendige Reife haben
werden.
Und selbst wenn einige Verkäufe stattfinden werden und Umsatz
ausserhalb des US-Militärs gemacht werden wird, muss erst noch eine
Fähigkeit zur Erzielung akzeptabler Gewinnmargen her. Immerhin
haben die nich nur ein paar Aktien draussen, sondern ganz viele auf
die sich dann ein Gewinn verteilen wird.
Und wer weiss, vielleicht schmiert die Aktie dann auch noch ab, nur
weil man dann mal endlich sieht, wie hoch die Gewinnmargen
tatsächlich sein können. Das ist auch durchaus möglich.
Da nützt ein Hochjubeln auch nix.
Und @Gabi, wenn denn die Technik wirklich so toll ist und Honda so
überzeugt ist... warum dann keinen Auftrag ? Warum nur eine nicht
bindende Absichtserklärung. Ich sach auch manchmal... ´vielleicht
ruf ich mal an´... Das ist doch gar nichts. Wieso redet ihr da
immer von einem Auftrag?
Und vom Timing her kurz vor den Q2-Zahlen ... ein Schelm wer Böses
dabei denkt. Soll das vielleicht von nicht ganz so tollen Zahlen
dann ablenken?
Aber wie gesagt. Das ist nur meine persönliche Meinung.
schrieb am 08.08.03 17:55:22
Wir werden sehen, wie sich MVIS entwickelt. Ich bin jedenfalls
froh, dass sich MVIS in Vergangenheit selbst zu schlimmsten Zeiten
finanzieren konnte, viele Firmen haben das nicht geschafft und
existieren nicht mehr...
Ich bin auch froh, dass meine Firma die angekündigten ersten
Produkte nun erfolgreich auf dem Markt plaziert hat und es nicht
nur bei der Ankündigung blieb.
Wenn die nächsten Applikationen ebenfalls auf den Markt
kommen und in entsprechender Stückzahl produziert werden,
dann ist MVIS de facto eine Weltfirma.
Bis dahin kann ich warten und habe kein Problem damit, schließlich
existiert meine Firma noch, wenn ich bedenke wie viele Investoren
zu Boomzeiten Fakefirmen gekauft haben habe ich doch ein ganz
passables Los gezogen.
Zu den kommenden Zahlen: eine R&D Firma kann keine tollen
Zahlen präsentieren, entscheidend wird eine Wasserstandsmeldungen
über angehende Produkte. Nach dem Honda-"Kontrakt" gab es keinen
CC, ich gehe davon aus dass dieses Thema sehr hoch auf der
Tagesordnung angesiedelt sein wird. Kein einziger Investor wird
MVIS aufgrund den Q2-Zahlen abstossen, da bin ich mir sicher. Evtl
werden Shorties das gestiegene Kursniveau nutzen, um die Aktie
geringerer Nachfrage zu drücken. Hätten sie auch bitter nötig.
Nice weekend to all
schrieb am 08.08.03 18:00:57
und noch eine sehr wichtige adhoc in Q2 vom 30.Juni
BOTHELL, Wash.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 30, 2003-- Microvision, Inc.
(Nasdaq:MVIS - News), a leader in light scanning technologies,
today announced that it has achieved a significant breakthrough
that is expected to enable the development of microminiature
displays and imaging systems that are much more compact and
affordable than those that the company is currently producing.
ADVERTISEMENT
According to the company, the new design should improve not only
size and cost but is expected to also increase reliability and
reduce the power required to operate the silicon micromirror that
is the centerpiece of Microvision`s scanned beam systems.
The company`s current displays make use of a micromechanical chip
that is packaged in a vacuum-sealed enclosure in order to maximize
its performance. The new design eliminates the vacuum -- without
impacting performance -- and simplifies the electrical drive
structure of the scanning engine to enable solutions that consume
less power and are dramatically smaller, lighter and lower in cost.
Eliminating the vacuum package also improves the optical
performance of the scanner. The current design enables displays
with up to 1.4 million color pixels, but the new drive structure
may also enable further improvements in display resolution.
"This breakthrough should enable us to develop a scanning engine
that can support a wide range of high volume consumer products,
including electronic viewfinders for digital cameras and
camcorders," said Rick Rutkowski, Microvision CEO. "The new
scan engine is also a big step on the path toward integrating
high-resolution electronic displays into something like
conventional eyeglasses that could be used in a variety of
applications including computer gaming, portable movie players and
mobile devices, such as cell phones and PDAs. We believe that
Microvision`s displays are going to deliver a combination of
performance, package size and price that is uniquely matched to the
requirements of consumer electronics applications. This development
is anticipated to ultimately benefit all of our product initiatives
including our activities in automotive displays and next generation
miniature cameras for medical and industrial applications."
About Microvision: www.microvision.com
soviel für heute
schrieb am 11.08.03 16:57:25
Microvision`s CEO to Present at the Gilder/Forbes Telecosm 2003
Conference
BOTHELL, Wash.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 11, 2003--Microvision
(Nasdaq:MVIS) today announced that its CEO, Rick Rutkowski, will
speak at the 7th Annual Telecosm Conference, "The Turnaround
Telecosm".
The conference takes place on August 25th and 26th in Squaw Creek,
Lake Tahoe, and is co-hosted by George Gilder, Editor-in-Chief of
the Gilder Technology Report and Steve Forbes, Editor-in-Chief of
Forbes Magazine.
For countries and companies alike, the key question becomes how to
identify the technologies on which the future is being built. The
Gilder/Forbes Telecosm Conference is an annual event for business
leaders from the telecommunications, technology, investment and
public policy arenas who gather to debate global issues and
opportunities surrounding the Telecosm.
On Tuesday, August 26th, Mr. Rutkowski will speak about
Microvision`s technology as it relates to emerging trends in
information technology and systems, and will participate in a panel
discussion entitled "Visualizing the Future: photography and
imaging".
Other speakers presenting at the 7th Annual Gilder Forbes Telecosm
Conference include: Verizon CEO, Ivan Seidenberg, Intel COO, Paul
Otellini; Internet Pioneer, Bob Metcalfe; Brian Halla, CEO,
National Semiconductor; Carver Mead, Chairman and Founder, Foveon,
Andy Kessler, Author, Wall Street Meat; Greg Papadopoulos, CTO, Sun
Microsystems; Gilder Technology Report, Editor, Nick Tredennick;
Boingo CEO, Sky Dayton; and Bill Smith, CTO, BellSouth.
Additional conference information can be found at:
www.gildertech.com/telecosm.
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evtl neue Investoren, bis dahin sollte auch ergebnis Honda Trial II
feststehen
schrieb am 11.08.03 21:45:41
http://www.uwtv.org/programs/displayevent.asp?rid=1844
verstehe von Lumera nicht viel, gehört zu 58% Microvision. U.a. hat
Cisco viel Geld investiert...
schrieb am 12.08.03 22:41:40
Microvision Reports Second Quarter Revenue of $4.5 Million
$5.1 million in new contract awards, product developments and key
technology achievements highlight second quarter activity
BOTHELL, Wash.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 12, 2003-- Microvision, Inc.
(Nasdaq:MVIS), a leader in light scanning technologies, today
reported financial results for the second quarter of 2003. Revenue
for the three months ended June 30, 2003 was $4.5 million compared
to $4.7 million for the same period in 2002. Revenue for the six
months ended June 30, 2003 was $8.0 million compared to $8.5
million for the same period last year. Revenue in the second
quarter of 2003 was derived from ongoing work on development
contracts with U.S. military and commercial customers, sales of the
Flic(TM) Laser Bar Code Scanner, sales of the Nomad(TM) Augmented
Vision System, and development contracts at its subsidiary, Lumera.
Revenue from development contracts with U.S. government agencies
was $2.7 million, revenue from commercial contracts was $1.6
million and revenue from product sales was $146,000.
The net loss for the three months ended June 30, 2003 was $6.7
million or $.38 per share compared to the net loss of $6.6 million
or $.49 per share for the same period in 2002. The net loss for the
six months ended June 30, 2003 was $14.1 million or $.83 per share
compared to the net loss of $14.9 million or $1.12 per share. For
the six months ended June 30, 2003, net cash used in operating
activities was $14.4 million compared to $15.1 million for the same
period in 2002.
The company, including Lumera, ended the quarter with $11.8 million
in cash, cash equivalents and investment securities and a contract
backlog of $3.4 million.
"The second quarter was a strong quarter for us, with solid
financial results and the achievement of a number of very important
milestones," said Microvision CEO Rick Rutkowski. "Contract revenue
grew sequentially in the second quarter, reflecting higher
government contract work and a continued strong level of commercial
contract work. The gross profit margin continued to be strong, with
this quarter`s margin again exceeding 50%. In addition, the second
quarter included several important milestones, such as key
deliveries to Canon and BMW and, most notably, the completion of a
successful field trial with Honda that subsequently led to a
non-binding letter of intent to purchase 3,800 units of our next
generation Nomad display as announced by the company on July 31,
2003. We also reported the demonstration of a laser-scanning camera
and the development and demonstration of a new microscanner engine
that can enable significant improvements in cost, package size,
power consumption and reliability across the range of the company`s
display and imaging products. This is a breakthrough that is
particularly important for the development of affordable miniature
display solutions for consumer electronic products such as digital
still cameras and camcorders.
"Contract awards in the second quarter were quite strong, with new
awards totaling $5.1 million from both government and commercial
customers. We continue to build the order pipeline for Flic and
expect significantly higher Flic sales in the third quarter.
However, our preliminary outlook for the third quarter suggests
that total revenue may fall below the $4.2 million that we reported
in the same quarter in 2002. This short-term variability is due to
uncertainty regarding the timing of new contracts some of which are
currently under negotiation. We are, however, actively pursuing
several outstanding contract bids that could increase our revenue
outlook for the third quarter.
"We believe that our recent letter of intent from Honda sets the
stage for substantial growth in product revenue in 2004. We have
begun marketing the next generation Nomad display to additional
customers in the automotive segment as well as in other markets. We
have been asked to conduct a field trial for automotive maintenance
with another well-known truck and automaker later this month. We
have recently completed a field trial with a military customer
where the Nomad`s performance was well received. We plan to build
on our early success and potential order with Honda with the aim of
creating a significant backlog of orders for the Nomad system
during the second half of this year.
"Our letter of intent with Honda is one of the most significant
events of the year for Microvision. We believe that the initial
indication of 3,800 units represents only a portion of Honda`s
potential requirements and that the automotive maintenance and
repair market is potentially a very large market for us. Worldwide
there are nearly 1.4 million technicians that cover a broad range
of automotive and related services, with 1.1 million of those
already having access to online digital repair information. As a
consequence, we believe that we can address a substantial early
adopter segment in this market with the product currently in
development.
"Our marketing effort for the Flic bar code scanner continues to
focus on developing our distribution channel, increasing end-user
product awareness and development of our sales organization. We
have also completed several improvements to the product and have
scheduled others in order to support a wider range of connectivity
options and extend the product`s reach in the market. We have now
signed 22 distribution agreements, including our recent agreement
with MobilePlanet to market both Flic and our soon-to-be-launched
cordless bar code scanner. We continue to have a large number of
sales proposals outstanding and we believe that we will begin to
see meaningful order flow later this year and significant growth in
sales and revenue through 2004. We expect to announce the launch of
our Flic cordless bar code scanner very soon. Market interest in
this product has been strong and we expect to attract one or more
launch customers for this unique product.
"We continue to advance discussions with a number of the world`s
leading consumer electronics companies relating to a range of
products, including electronic viewfinders for digital cameras and
camcorders and displays for gaming and entertainment applications.
Each of these represents a significant potential market opportunity
and we are encouraged with the rapid progress we are making to
initiate customer partnerships to pursue these markets. We continue
to make excellent progress toward establishing a manufacturing
partner for high volume production of our low-cost display engine
for consumer applications.
"We held our first public demonstration of our laser scanning
camera at our shareholder`s meeting in June. The image quality of
this prototype camera is exceptional and we are working toward
developing partnerships to accelerate product development for a
variety of applications that utilize miniature cameras, including
medical and biomedical imaging, 2D bar code scanning, and machine
vision.
"Development work on automotive displays continues to progress
rapidly toward the product development phase for a number of
potential applications. In early July, we were awarded a contract
by the Electronics Research Lab of Volkswagon of America to develop
an advanced prototype display that will be installed in an
experimental automobile later this year. We look forward to
reporting in more detail the specific application. We also continue
to work toward obtaining a design win from BMW and a leading Tier 1
automotive supplier to provide certain automotive displays for the
2006 model year, which would mean higher development revenue for
2004 and leading to product revenue in late 2004 and beyond.
New Developments
"We completed the first phase development contract with a major
Asian manufacturer of printers and office equipment to design a new
scanning engine for high-speed laser printers. The customer was
very happy with the results and we are now in active discussions to
continue this development project into a second phase.
"We continue to develop and evaluate both wearable and handheld
product concepts for mobile and cellular communications under
contract to one of the world`s leading wireless network operators.
We are seeing renewed interest in this product category as new
portable media products emerge from a variety of the world`s
leading technology companies.
"We are enthusiastic about new product directions that Lumera is
working on based on its platform materials technology. The company
was awarded two new development contracts in the second quarter and
we are pleased with the excellent progress Lumera is making on its
technology and products.
"We are very pleased with Microvision`s progress and its future
prospects on multiple fronts. The company continues to pursue
high-growth market opportunities and is rapidly developing new
products to expand our product pipeline."
Conference Call
Microvision will host a conference call to discuss its second
quarter of 2003 financial results at 4:30 p.m. ET today.
Participants may join the conference call by dialing (800) 299-8538
(for U.S. participants) ten minutes prior to the start of the
conference. International participants can dial (617) 786-2902. The
passcode number is 10193863. Additionally, the call will be
broadcast over the Internet and can be accessed from the company`s
web site at www.microvision.com. A telephone replay of the call
will be available through 11:00 p.m. ET August 19, 2003 and can be
accessed by dialing 888-286-8010 (for U.S. participants) or
617-801-6888 (for international participants). The conference
passcode is 24187278. Also, a replay of the conference call will be
available on the company`s web site.
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product revenues lächerlich, kurzzeitiger Ausblick entmutigend,
Finanzierung innerhalb nächsten 3 Monate zu nach wie vor schlechten
Konditionen. Dürfte wieder gen Süden gehen...
schrieb am 12.08.03 22:44:51
Revenue declining
2nd quarter 2003 - $4.5m
2nd quarter 2002 - $4.7m
Commercial revenue from Nomad and Flic
2nd quarter 2003 - $0.146m
net loss
2nd quarter 2003 - $6.7m
2nd quarter 2002 - $6.6m
cash burn
1st half of 2003 - $14.4m
cash left - $11.8m
contract backlog continues to decline
2nd quarter 2003 - $3.4m
2nd quarter 2002 - $5.7m
schrieb am 13.08.03 13:23:53
Spinoff Technology # 569
Electro-optic polymers
Lumera Corporation (Bothell, WA)
Based on research partially funded by BMDO, Lumera Corporation
(Bothell, Wa) has developed a prototype for an
electro-opto–polymer-based 10-gigabit modulator that will run
reliably, at room temperature, at more than 100 GHz. Devices made
with this new material should run at higher operational speeds with
lower optical losses, lower power consumption, and lower cost of
fabrication than existing devices using inorganic materials.
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Technology Description:
Using chromophores (organic molecules that are specially engineered
to control the propagation of light by means of an applied electric
field), Lumera has designed a modulator that could operate at 100
GHz (instead of 10 or 40 GHz) at roughly half the voltage of
existing modulators (3 to 4.5 volts instead of 6 to 9 volts), for
less cost. The dielectric constant of Lumera’s electro-optic
polymer (2.5 to 4) compares favorably to that of the ferroelectric
material lithium niobate (28). The refractive index of Lumera’s
electro-optic polymer is 1.5 to 1.6, compared to that of lithium
niobate with an index of 2.2.
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Spinoff Applications:
The main application is polymer-based optical communications
devices including modulators, switches, and waveguides. A series of
electro-opto–polymer-based modulators could be packed into a small
space with negligible crosstalk interference. This offers the
promise of compact, multi-channel, optical communications links in
a small space with very low losses, something that manufacturers of
lithium niobate-based modulators cannot hope to match. However,
while optical communications is the first market Lumera has chosen
to enter, it is not the only segment of the photonics industry that
might benefit. Electro-optic polymers might profitably be deployed
in displays, sensors, and optical computing. For example:
phased-array radar; or three-dimensional integrated photonic and
all-optical circuits.
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Commercialization:
The company is testing the thermal stability of its electro-optic
polymer for up to 2,000 hours at 85°C. It plans to ship engineering
samples of a 10-gigabit modulator to selected customers including
Cisco, Inc. (a major investor in Lumera), before the end of 2002.
Lumera thinks it can manufacture units for significantly less than
the $6,000 to $15,000 price tag of existing electro-optic
modulators. By the second quarter of 2004, the company hopes to
introduce an even more powerful 40-gigabit device, and equally
hopes to reduce costs down to $1,000 per unit by that time.
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Company Profile:
Lumera is 52 percent owned by Microvision, Inc., of Bothell, WA.
Founded in January 2000, Lumera incorporated in January 2001 and
received $24 million in first-round financing from a venture
capital group that included Cisco, Inc. The number of Lumera
employees stands at 32 and its annual revenue is approximately
$800,000, 100 percent of which is government contracts and grants.
Lumera operates in a facility of 11,500 square feet that contains
office and laboratory space and a Class 100 Clean Room.
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Contact Information:
Thomas D. Mino, CEO
Lumera, Inc.
19910 North Creek Parkway
Bothell, WA 98011
Tel: (425) 398-6540
Fax: (425) 398-6599
E-mail: tom_mino@lumera.com
Web: http://www.lumera.com
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Wird schnell wieder gen 6$ gehen, evtl sogar alte Tradingrange
zwischen 4$-6$. Damit wären die nächsten 5 Monate bedient. Richtig
ärgerlich ist, dass man in dieser Zeit eine mieserable
Finanzierungsrunde a ggf 3-4 Mio shares abhandeln muß.
ist die bisher einzig positive Überraschung aus der adhoc
We also continue to work toward obtaining a design win from BMW
and a leading Tier 1 automotive supplier to provide certain
automotive displays for the 2006 model year, which would mean
higher development revenue for 2004 and leading to product revenue
in late 2004 and beyond.
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