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[chicko6]

Ja!!
Die Aktie wird steigen!!

Das Problem ist die Frage des Zeitpunktes!!

Da läuft noch was, von dem wir noch nichts wissen dürfen!!!

Mit der IVG sieht`s gut aus, da kommt "hoffentlich" nicht`s auf uns zu.

Gruß
chicko

[GordonFox]

Na endlich mal richtige Optimisten hier.
Wurd` aber auch Zeit.
Zenman prescht nach vorne wo Engel furchtsam weichen

Gruss G.

[testersteron]

@zenman

dito

[maeusefaenger]

zenman,

yeeaaahh.....

[zenman]

ich scheiss auf das negativ-geschreibsel
hab meinen goldesel grad auf 30k erhöht
dat ging bei IEM gut
dat ging bei BKN gut
dat geht AUCH bei WCM gut

gestern wurd der rest verschleudert, sag ICH

nu gehts aufwärts

Zeit Letzter Volumen Börse
14:46:00 1,03 2 833 Frankfurt
14:38:50 1,04 46 899 XETRA

[sailorscabin]

Michael

Rechne lieber mal mit einem Nullsummenspiel bzw. mit einem kleinen Gewinn; bei einem moeglichen Verlust bitte die Rebon nicht vergessen !! Geteiltes Leid ist halbes Leid

Aber am Ende kommt alles ganz anders als man denkt.

[mattb2]

Durch den Mio-Gewinn der durch den Verkauf der Coba-Aktien entstanden ist, dürfte das wohl auszuschließen sein. Von Pleite zu sprechen ist wirklich nur billigste Panikmache!

[michaelzlj]

WCM kann schnell pleite gehen wenn die nächste Nachricht besätigt. dass nach der Auktion IVG noch ausss stehenden
millionen kredit begleich muss....denn ruscht es sofort unter 1 Euro

[sailorscabin]

Die Frage ist nicht wer die 70% haelt, sondern wer die 15,8% bekommen hat.......

Jedenfalls keiner ueber je 5% !!

Fuer den 9.6. werde ich mir mein Essen selber mitbringen..... Eier und Tomaten....

[andichan]

Auf einem anderen Board gefunden, und läßt vielleicht
die Sichtweise von Investoren aus Übersee etwas klarer werden ?!

The Economist

House prices continue to climb, but prospects for 2004 look bleaker AFTER three years of falling prices, investment in shares finally paid off in 2003. Even so, most stockmarkets remain 30-50% below their peaks in early 2000. Residential property, in contrast, has brought uninterrupted rewards: in most countries house prices have continued to rise rapidly throughout the past four years, thanks to cheap mortgage finance. This largely explains why economies held up more strongly than expected after stockmarkets slumped: higher house values offset much of the loss in share portfolios.

Indeed, households in developed economies have twice as much of their wealth tied up in housing as in equities, so swings in house prices can have a bigger impact on economies than sharp moves in stockmarkets. Yet until recently it was much harder to compare house prices internationally than it was share prices. To help fill this gap, in 2002 The Economist launched a set of global house-price indicators for 13 developed economies, going back to 1975. It is time for our latest quarterly update.

In the year to the third quarter of 2003, house prices rose by 10% or more in six of our 13 countries (see table 1). Australia topped the league with an increase of 18%, roughly the same pace as in 2002. At the other extreme, home prices fell by 5-6% in both Germany and Japan during the year. In most countries, house-price inflation slowed in 2003. The exceptions were France, Ireland and Italy, where prices increased at double-digit speed. In America house prices lost some zip. The 5.6% pace in the year to the third quarter was the slowest for four years.

Since 1995, house prices have more than tripled in Ireland and more than doubled in Australia, Britain, the Netherlands and Spain (see chart 2). In comparison, the 54% increase in average American house prices over the same period looks modest. However, the 30% gain in real house prices in America (ie, after adjusting for consumer-price inflation) is by far the biggest rise during any eight-year period in the past three decades and double the increase in the boom of the 1980s. The average figure for the United States also conceals bigger increases in some cities, including San Francisco, Boston and New York. Chart 3 looks at house prices in real terms in the five biggest economies since 1975. Today the real price of the average British home is 128% higher than in 1975; an American home is only 36% dearer. Japanese house prices have been the most volatile: after surging during the 1980s they have plunged for 12 years running. Even so, prices in Japan are still slightly above their 1975 level in real terms. <In contrast, real house prices in Germany are now 33% lower than in 1975, having fallen in 20 of the past 28 years. In 1975 a home in Germany cost three times as much as one in France. Now prices in the two countries are more or less the same.>

During the past year The Economist has drawn attention to six housing markets where prices look dangerously overvalued: America, Australia, Britain, Ireland, the Netherlands and Spain. So far, average prices have not fallen, although house prices have slowed in many countries. However, cracks are starting to appear. Prices dropped in many parts of London in 2003. Average home prices in New York dipped in the third quarter for the first time since 1996. The prices of flats are falling in Sydney and Melbourne. The proportion of homes put up for auction—the most common method of sale in Australia—which are then successfully sold has fallen to below 50%. Further price declines look likely. Housing markets in all six of these countries will face more testing conditions in 2004 than in the past four years. First, with house prices at record levels in relation to incomes, first-time buyers are being priced out of the market. Second, an excess supply of properties has reduced rents in many countries at the same time as prices have climbed. This has cut yields, making housing less attractive as an investment. In America, a record 10% of rental properties are vacant. Last, interest rates are more likely to rise than to fall. The Bank of England and the Reserve Bank of Australia have already increased interest rates. American mortgage rates, which are linked to bond yields, have risen.

At best, therefore, house prices are likely to flatten off in many countries in 2004. But in many big cities there must be a high risk that prices will fall.