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FeedbackZitat von ellexi: Ich sehe da zb. für Here ein großes Potential kombiniert mit Augumented Reality. Im Bereich Fahrerlose Fahrzeuge wird ja auch mit Volvo als Partner geforscht. Außerdem glaube ich wurden hier schon 2006/07 die Weichen gestellt.
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gar nix wird pasieren, ist nicht das erste mal das nokia gegenüber konkurenten wie google oder samsung eine blutige nase hohlte und das wird in zukunft wieder so sein sollte sich nokia wagen seine nase in googles/samsungs/apples gescheftsfelder zu stecken. dann gibts platsch und nokia liegt wider in der ecke
Habe noch ein paar NOKs dazugekauft.
Vielleicht überrascht ja NOK am Di ausnahmsweise mal positiv ....
Vielleicht überrascht ja NOK am Di ausnahmsweise mal positiv ....
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 46.869.694 von IngChris am 24.04.14 17:08:41Wenn Du nichts dazu gekauft hättest, dann hätte es vielleicht die von Dir angesprochene Überraschung geben können. Aber so....
Das wird nun eher ein Blutbad geben!!
Das wird nun eher ein Blutbad geben!!
Die letzten Zahlen waren durchwachsen, der Ausblick ebenfalls. Eine wirklich negative Überraschung ist daher eher unwahrscheinlich.
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Hier gehen anscheinend viele - vor den Zahlen - auf Nummer sicher ...
Zitat von salzburger76: Nokia to Exclude India Phone Plant From Sale to Microsoft
Das indische Werk geht mal nicht an MS. Jetzt wird es interessant um wie viel sich der Kaufpreis für die D+S Sparte reduziert.
Der Ausschluss der Fabrik aus der Transaktion werde sich nicht auf die Handelsbedingungen des Deals mit Microsoft auswirken, hatte Nokia erklärt.
http://www.finanznachrichten.de/nachrichten-2014-04/30076204…
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 46.870.670 von IngChris am 24.04.14 20:11:12Also gehe ich mal davon aus, dass sich der Betrag den MSFT an NOK zahlt nicht reduziert !!
Zitat von IngChris: Also gehe ich mal davon aus, dass sich der Betrag den MSFT an NOK zahlt nicht reduziert !!
selbst wenn, indien hat nokia so richtig am schlawittchen, das wird noch richtig teuer und der markt für microsoft phones oder für nokias zukünftige produkte ist auch hin. so arbeiten diletanten und aktionäre von diletanten sind auch diletanten
Digital Mapping May Be Nokia’s Hidden Jewel
“People sometimes think we’re unmarked police cars,” said the British engineer, Mark Williams. “The system is really easy to use. Routes are plugged in, and you just drive around for eight hours a day.” Credit Rob Stothard for The New York Times
BERLIN — For the first time in more than three decades, Nokia faces the future without being a player in the global phone business. On Friday, the company completes the sale of its beleaguered handset business to Microsoft for $7.5 billion.
The deal’s closing puts a spotlight on what remains of Nokia, which includes the Finnish company’s mobile networking business and a research and intellectual property unit. But it is Nokia’s efforts to map the entire world digitally that could prove to be the company’s hidden gem — or at least emerge as a compelling, multibillion-dollar takeover target.
Nokia’s goal with its mapping system, known as Here, is simple but ambitious: to build the world’s most detailed and up-to-date digital maps. As more companies connect their products to the Internet, analysts say that mapping services will become increasingly important to more businesses, including those in transportation, shipping and retailing.
In smartphones, Here is outgunned by Google Maps, which has an estimated one billion mobile users and is aided by being standard issue on phones using Google’s Android operating system. Here, which is the default mapping application on Windows phones, has only about 100 million smartphone users.
Nokia’s goal with its mapping system, known as Here, is simple but ambitious: to build the world’s most detailed and up-to-date digital maps. Credit Rob Stothard for The New York Times
In automobile mapping, however, Here dominates, with more than 80 percent of the global market for built-in car navigation systems — a field in which Google and Apple are scrambling to catch up.
Nokia contends that its mapping products, which are updated 2.7 million times a day, are more accurate than its rivals’ offerings, and that its ability to customize its maps for different customers sets Nokia apart.
Google, for its part, counters that it makes tens of thousands of changes to its maps daily and that it uses complex algorithms and external information from the likes of the United States Census Bureau to build maps for 198 countries.
While rivals like Apple have tried to break into the global mapping business, they have so far been largely unsuccessful, leaving Nokia’s 29-year-old Here mapping system as the only contender for companies and consumers looking for an alternative to Google.
“Mapping is an expensive business,” said Annette Zimmermann, an analyst at the technology research company Gartner in Munich. “If you haven’t already built what these guys have built, it doesn’t make sense to start now.”
Despite the strong position, though, Nokia’s mapping unit last year generated only 7 percent, or $1.2 billion, of the company’s total revenue, excluding its handset unit, according to corporate filings. The division also reported an operating loss of $212 million over the same period, as the company continued to invest in the mapping operation, which has 6,000 employees, or around 11 percent of Nokia’s remaining work force of 55,000.
The weak financial figures have led many analysts to question whether the company has the deep pockets required to keep pace in mapping, especially since it has few existing connections to Nokia’s other businesses. Besides its auto clients, Nokia licenses Here to companies including Microsoft, for its Bing search engine; to Amazon, for the Kindle Fire tablet; and to Yahoo for its Flickr photo service. FedEx now uses Here mapping data to manage its fleet of delivery trucks worldwide.
Already, there is talk that Nokia could decide either to sell or spin off the division, so the company can focus on its core mobile networking business. The networking unit, which manufacturers cellphone towers and other telecommunications hardware for carriers, will generate almost 90 percent of the company’s annual revenue after the handset deal is closed. That means Here might be more valuable to someone else than to Nokia.
“There are only a few mapping businesses in the world,” said Ehud Gelblum, a Citigroup analyst in New York. “It’s a valuable asset.”
Microsoft fought hard to buy the unit as part of the recent handset sale. But it could not agree with Nokia on a price, according to several people with direct knowledge of the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly.
Analysts say that Nokia’s mapping division, whose price tag could reach more than $6 billion, might be attractive to the likes of Samsung and other large handset makers to reduce their dependence on Android for smartphones and tablets.
Currently, phone makers rely on Google for their mapping services. Yet as these products become more sophisticated, companies may want to take more control over this vital part of customer interaction — by having their own alternative to Google Maps, for instance.
Daily updates to Nokia’s map data are part of the company’s efforts to maintain close ties with the world’s largest carmakers, links that generate more than 50 percent of the mapping division’s yearly revenue.
Michael Halbherr, the head of Nokia’s mapping business, shrugs off the takeover talk, saying that Here remains part of the company’s overall strategy.
“Every company has an owner, and for us, it’s Nokia,” Mr. Halbherr, 49, a Swiss native, said in his office in central Berlin. “It’s only a good thing to be part of a large organization.”
Whatever company controls Here, there seems to be room for growth, analysts say. Companies like Oracle and FedEx, for example, are embedding maps in their technology systems to direct deliveries worldwide and to manage their global supply chains.
And cellphone carriers like Deutsche Telekom, the owner of T-Mobile, are building new services that allow consumers to keep track of friends and family members through smartphone applications based on digital maps.
For now, at least, Here continues to be a major effort at Nokia. That was clear on a recent day in Watford, on the outskirts of London, where one of the company’s engineers made final adjustments to an array of sensors strapped to the roof of his car.
Costing around $80,000, the gear included GPS monitors, 3-D imaging cameras and remote sensing technology. The contraptions — attached to a mast bolted onto the bright blue car — fed minute-by-minute information to a tablet next to the driver’s seat.
“People sometimes think we’re unmarked police cars,” said the British engineer, Mark Williams. “The system is really easy to use. Routes are plugged in, and you just drive around for eight hours a day.”
Daily updates to Nokia’s map data are part of the company’s efforts to maintain close ties with the world’s largest carmakers, links that generate more than 50 percent of the mapping division’s yearly revenue.
In the auto industry, Nokia still commands the bulk of the market, thanks to relationships with giants including Toyota and Volkswagen. Google and Apple are making major efforts to have their maps used in cars, but they have not yet had much luck, according to Gartner, the research company.
Last year, Nokia also teamed up with Mercedes-Benz to test a driverless car around 60 miles of German roads. The trial included instant 3-D modeling of nearby cars and constant corrections from the car’s onboard computer.
That would be almost impossible if done through a cellphone’s operating system, as envisioned by other tech companies, according to Ogi Redzic, the vice president of Nokia’s connected driving business.
“A car is a completely different type of device,” said Mr. Redzic in Chicago. “I don’t think automakers want smartphones to be the brain of their cars.”
As it continues seeking new outlets for Here, Nokia is working with retailers, banks and tech companies to tailor its real-time mapping information, including foot and vehicle traffic data, to help them determine where to place stores, billboards or even cash machines.
“There are a lot of applications for what we’re doing,” said Reno Marioni, an American who runs Nokia’s crowd mapping business, which feeds changes made by users into the company’s products. “Mapping the world is a pretty big thing.”
“People sometimes think we’re unmarked police cars,” said the British engineer, Mark Williams. “The system is really easy to use. Routes are plugged in, and you just drive around for eight hours a day.” Credit Rob Stothard for The New York Times
BERLIN — For the first time in more than three decades, Nokia faces the future without being a player in the global phone business. On Friday, the company completes the sale of its beleaguered handset business to Microsoft for $7.5 billion.
The deal’s closing puts a spotlight on what remains of Nokia, which includes the Finnish company’s mobile networking business and a research and intellectual property unit. But it is Nokia’s efforts to map the entire world digitally that could prove to be the company’s hidden gem — or at least emerge as a compelling, multibillion-dollar takeover target.
Nokia’s goal with its mapping system, known as Here, is simple but ambitious: to build the world’s most detailed and up-to-date digital maps. As more companies connect their products to the Internet, analysts say that mapping services will become increasingly important to more businesses, including those in transportation, shipping and retailing.
In smartphones, Here is outgunned by Google Maps, which has an estimated one billion mobile users and is aided by being standard issue on phones using Google’s Android operating system. Here, which is the default mapping application on Windows phones, has only about 100 million smartphone users.
Nokia’s goal with its mapping system, known as Here, is simple but ambitious: to build the world’s most detailed and up-to-date digital maps. Credit Rob Stothard for The New York Times
In automobile mapping, however, Here dominates, with more than 80 percent of the global market for built-in car navigation systems — a field in which Google and Apple are scrambling to catch up.
Nokia contends that its mapping products, which are updated 2.7 million times a day, are more accurate than its rivals’ offerings, and that its ability to customize its maps for different customers sets Nokia apart.
Google, for its part, counters that it makes tens of thousands of changes to its maps daily and that it uses complex algorithms and external information from the likes of the United States Census Bureau to build maps for 198 countries.
While rivals like Apple have tried to break into the global mapping business, they have so far been largely unsuccessful, leaving Nokia’s 29-year-old Here mapping system as the only contender for companies and consumers looking for an alternative to Google.
“Mapping is an expensive business,” said Annette Zimmermann, an analyst at the technology research company Gartner in Munich. “If you haven’t already built what these guys have built, it doesn’t make sense to start now.”
Despite the strong position, though, Nokia’s mapping unit last year generated only 7 percent, or $1.2 billion, of the company’s total revenue, excluding its handset unit, according to corporate filings. The division also reported an operating loss of $212 million over the same period, as the company continued to invest in the mapping operation, which has 6,000 employees, or around 11 percent of Nokia’s remaining work force of 55,000.
The weak financial figures have led many analysts to question whether the company has the deep pockets required to keep pace in mapping, especially since it has few existing connections to Nokia’s other businesses. Besides its auto clients, Nokia licenses Here to companies including Microsoft, for its Bing search engine; to Amazon, for the Kindle Fire tablet; and to Yahoo for its Flickr photo service. FedEx now uses Here mapping data to manage its fleet of delivery trucks worldwide.
Already, there is talk that Nokia could decide either to sell or spin off the division, so the company can focus on its core mobile networking business. The networking unit, which manufacturers cellphone towers and other telecommunications hardware for carriers, will generate almost 90 percent of the company’s annual revenue after the handset deal is closed. That means Here might be more valuable to someone else than to Nokia.
“There are only a few mapping businesses in the world,” said Ehud Gelblum, a Citigroup analyst in New York. “It’s a valuable asset.”
Microsoft fought hard to buy the unit as part of the recent handset sale. But it could not agree with Nokia on a price, according to several people with direct knowledge of the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly.
Analysts say that Nokia’s mapping division, whose price tag could reach more than $6 billion, might be attractive to the likes of Samsung and other large handset makers to reduce their dependence on Android for smartphones and tablets.
Currently, phone makers rely on Google for their mapping services. Yet as these products become more sophisticated, companies may want to take more control over this vital part of customer interaction — by having their own alternative to Google Maps, for instance.
Daily updates to Nokia’s map data are part of the company’s efforts to maintain close ties with the world’s largest carmakers, links that generate more than 50 percent of the mapping division’s yearly revenue.
Michael Halbherr, the head of Nokia’s mapping business, shrugs off the takeover talk, saying that Here remains part of the company’s overall strategy.
“Every company has an owner, and for us, it’s Nokia,” Mr. Halbherr, 49, a Swiss native, said in his office in central Berlin. “It’s only a good thing to be part of a large organization.”
Whatever company controls Here, there seems to be room for growth, analysts say. Companies like Oracle and FedEx, for example, are embedding maps in their technology systems to direct deliveries worldwide and to manage their global supply chains.
And cellphone carriers like Deutsche Telekom, the owner of T-Mobile, are building new services that allow consumers to keep track of friends and family members through smartphone applications based on digital maps.
For now, at least, Here continues to be a major effort at Nokia. That was clear on a recent day in Watford, on the outskirts of London, where one of the company’s engineers made final adjustments to an array of sensors strapped to the roof of his car.
Costing around $80,000, the gear included GPS monitors, 3-D imaging cameras and remote sensing technology. The contraptions — attached to a mast bolted onto the bright blue car — fed minute-by-minute information to a tablet next to the driver’s seat.
“People sometimes think we’re unmarked police cars,” said the British engineer, Mark Williams. “The system is really easy to use. Routes are plugged in, and you just drive around for eight hours a day.”
Daily updates to Nokia’s map data are part of the company’s efforts to maintain close ties with the world’s largest carmakers, links that generate more than 50 percent of the mapping division’s yearly revenue.
In the auto industry, Nokia still commands the bulk of the market, thanks to relationships with giants including Toyota and Volkswagen. Google and Apple are making major efforts to have their maps used in cars, but they have not yet had much luck, according to Gartner, the research company.
Last year, Nokia also teamed up with Mercedes-Benz to test a driverless car around 60 miles of German roads. The trial included instant 3-D modeling of nearby cars and constant corrections from the car’s onboard computer.
That would be almost impossible if done through a cellphone’s operating system, as envisioned by other tech companies, according to Ogi Redzic, the vice president of Nokia’s connected driving business.
“A car is a completely different type of device,” said Mr. Redzic in Chicago. “I don’t think automakers want smartphones to be the brain of their cars.”
As it continues seeking new outlets for Here, Nokia is working with retailers, banks and tech companies to tailor its real-time mapping information, including foot and vehicle traffic data, to help them determine where to place stores, billboards or even cash machines.
“There are a lot of applications for what we’re doing,” said Reno Marioni, an American who runs Nokia’s crowd mapping business, which feeds changes made by users into the company’s products. “Mapping the world is a pretty big thing.”
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