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Ich rechne für 2008 mit der strafrechtlichen Aufarbeitung des USXP-Betrugs.
Obwohl ich Richard für einen Psychopathen halte (Maniker), glaube ich, daß das bei den Amis nicht zieht - in D hätte er eine erhebliche Strafminderung erhalten wenn nicht sogar Schuldunfähigkeit.
Meine Prognose:
4 Jahre Zelle
Obwohl ich Richard für einen Psychopathen halte (Maniker), glaube ich, daß das bei den Amis nicht zieht - in D hätte er eine erhebliche Strafminderung erhalten wenn nicht sogar Schuldunfähigkeit.
Meine Prognose:
4 Jahre Zelle
Hallo MODS, diesen Thread bitte löschen wegen
substanzloser Basherei !!!
Danke !!!
substanzloser Basherei !!!
Danke !!!
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.756.146 von Csillagok am 13.12.07 16:45:37
Csi, Du zitterst wohl um Deinen - wertlosen - USXP-Bestand !?
Csi, Du zitterst wohl um Deinen - wertlosen - USXP-Bestand !?
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.755.986 von alysant am 13.12.07 16:34:13um des lieben Friedens willen:
ich ermäßige auf 3 Jahre und 9 Monate
ich ermäßige auf 3 Jahre und 9 Monate
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.756.308 von alysant am 13.12.07 16:59:03 Lebenslang...........mindestens, ....................und ich würde Ihn bei den ganz harten Jungs, einquartieren..............ist doch ein Maaarrrinnnnnnn´s
mfg Paros
mfg Paros
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.756.369 von Paros am 13.12.07 17:03:48
aber dann Hafterleichterung durch blecherne Unterhosen
aber dann Hafterleichterung durch blecherne Unterhosen
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.756.378 von alysant am 13.12.07 17:04:46An Seife soll´s nicht fehlen......................die schick ich Ihm.............
Aber in den USA bekommt er vielleicht sogar noch nen Orden, normal müsste er doch schon längst in Haft sein.........
mfg Paros
Aber in den USA bekommt er vielleicht sogar noch nen Orden, normal müsste er doch schon längst in Haft sein.........
mfg Paros
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.756.475 von Paros am 13.12.07 17:12:49
schließlich ist er Parteifreund von GWB
schließlich ist er Parteifreund von GWB
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.756.552 von alysant am 13.12.07 17:18:03und liest vielleicht wie dieser zusammen mit seiner Alten analog zu George und Laura gemeinsam in der Bibel, um Kraft zu schöpfen für neue Betrügereien
zelle für Altomare
Zwangsjacke für Kalle
Freispruch für Csillagok, aufgrund von
"er hat es bald begriffen" Argument.....
Zwangsjacke für Kalle
Freispruch für Csillagok, aufgrund von
"er hat es bald begriffen" Argument.....
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.762.474 von Wallgrekk am 14.12.07 10:17:01
www.usxp.com
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Deposition of Richard Altomare (November 27, 2007)
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(gerichtliche Befragung durch Jane Moscowitz / Konkursverwalterin)
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Deposition of Richard Altomare (November 27, 2007)
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(gerichtliche Befragung durch Jane Moscowitz / Konkursverwalterin)
Verfügung Richter Judge vom 18.4.2008:
Richard soll sich bis 2.5. beim Marschall in New York einfinden zwecks Inhaftierung, falls er bis dahin seine Strafe wegen Mißachtung des Gerichts nicht bezahlt hat.
Details bei yahoo.com / finance / message board
Wegen Zeitmangel kann ich mich leider nicht ausführlicher mit diesem Sch... befassen.
Richard soll sich bis 2.5. beim Marschall in New York einfinden zwecks Inhaftierung, falls er bis dahin seine Strafe wegen Mißachtung des Gerichts nicht bezahlt hat.
Details bei yahoo.com / finance / message board
Wegen Zeitmangel kann ich mich leider nicht ausführlicher mit diesem Sch... befassen.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.935.525 von alysant am 21.04.08 19:35:39Da hat die SEC und Richter Lynch anscheinend schnell ein neues Gesetzt erfunden.
Der Appeals - Court wird diese "illegale Maßnahme" eines von der SEC gesteuerten Richters aus NY korrigieren.
This finding is shocking and illegal in the extreme and will be stayed by the Second Circuit where the appeal is pending.
There is no debtors prison allowed in the United States.
Mr.Altomare testified at the February 4, 2008 hearing openly and extensively, that he did not have the ability to pay any of the amounts that the SEC wanted.
Extensive documentation was submitted of his inability to pay.
If a person cannot pay, you can't put him in prison for not paying.
This vindictive, ludicrous and outrageous contempt finding will be quickly set aside.
Der Appeals - Court wird diese "illegale Maßnahme" eines von der SEC gesteuerten Richters aus NY korrigieren.
This finding is shocking and illegal in the extreme and will be stayed by the Second Circuit where the appeal is pending.
There is no debtors prison allowed in the United States.
Mr.Altomare testified at the February 4, 2008 hearing openly and extensively, that he did not have the ability to pay any of the amounts that the SEC wanted.
Extensive documentation was submitted of his inability to pay.
If a person cannot pay, you can't put him in prison for not paying.
This vindictive, ludicrous and outrageous contempt finding will be quickly set aside.
im Grunde alles "scheißegal":
endgültiger Totalverlust durch öffentlich und nachhaltig begangenen Betrug
unter besonderer Berücksichtigung (Notiz in D) naiver Ausländer.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.938.659 von alysant am 22.04.08 08:56:18Ganz so einfach strukturiert ist es dann doch nicht Alysant.
Wie bereits geschrieben, usxp ist vor dem 2. höchsten Gericht der USA, dem Appeals Court in Berufung.
"The appellate court is required to decide the summary judgment, without a hearing de novo, which requires them to put his summary judgment opinion aside and decide the issues on the briefs submitted by the parties, including the clear and convincing immunities and enabling provisions of the Bankruptcy Code and Reorganization Plan, which strongly trump the SEC."
Wie bereits geschrieben, usxp ist vor dem 2. höchsten Gericht der USA, dem Appeals Court in Berufung.
"The appellate court is required to decide the summary judgment, without a hearing de novo, which requires them to put his summary judgment opinion aside and decide the issues on the briefs submitted by the parties, including the clear and convincing immunities and enabling provisions of the Bankruptcy Code and Reorganization Plan, which strongly trump the SEC."
www.garyweiss.blogspot.com
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kann täglich aufgerufen werden, da Gary Weiss von Beruf anerkannter Journalist und Autor ist und in Würdigung der Persönlichkeit von Richard Alexander ein Knast-Tagebuch führt mit dazugehöriger Kommentierung und Illustration.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.037.841 von alysant am 06.05.08 15:38:32heute 6. Tag
interessant ist der Kommentar von Richter Lynch:
Richard und Konsorten haben die Gesellschaft nur zur Einsammlung von Geldern für private Zwecke genutzt, praktisch kein Geschäftsbetrieb von Anfang an, Jackson Memorabilia wertlos, keine Vermögenswerte , rücksichtsloses Verhalten von Richard in Bezug auf Mitarbeiter und Aktionäre
Fazit:
habe ich in epischer Breite schon lange vorher geschrieben
Rat für Unverbesserliche:
Geld ist definitiv weg. Weitere Hoffnung und Beschäftigung mit diesem Thema schadet der Gesundheit, es sei denn, man ist Masochist und braucht so was.
interessant ist der Kommentar von Richter Lynch:
Richard und Konsorten haben die Gesellschaft nur zur Einsammlung von Geldern für private Zwecke genutzt, praktisch kein Geschäftsbetrieb von Anfang an, Jackson Memorabilia wertlos, keine Vermögenswerte , rücksichtsloses Verhalten von Richard in Bezug auf Mitarbeiter und Aktionäre
Fazit:
habe ich in epischer Breite schon lange vorher geschrieben
Rat für Unverbesserliche:
Geld ist definitiv weg. Weitere Hoffnung und Beschäftigung mit diesem Thema schadet der Gesundheit, es sei denn, man ist Masochist und braucht so was.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.052.950 von alysant am 08.05.08 09:56:18#97925 von Bigtroll 08.05.08 08:34:13 Beitrag Nr.: 34.052.143
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Gary Weiss???
Hier mal ein paar Infos zu deinem Gary den du so gerne zitierst.
Gary Weiss, Psychopath & Scaramouch
February 19th, 2008 by Patrick Byrne
I now turn to Gary Weiss. Last year one of the most prominent journalists on Wall Street warned me, “I’ve known Weiss for years. Be careful. He’s a psychopath.” As you will see, he was neither joking nor exaggerating. I think, however, that Gary is better described as a “Scaramouch.”
In a series of brilliant investigations, Judd Bagley, a reporter-investigator-technologist friend of mine (and more recently, I am proud to say, a colleague) studied the IP footprints Gary’s computers have left scattered across the Internet for over a decade, and posted his extraordinary analyses of them on his cleverly-titled site, “Antisocialmedia.net”. Judd’s posts are as disturbing with regard to what they reveal about our society’s discourse, as they are regarding the activities of Gary himself.
It is a complex story that I recount below in as clear and straightforward a manner as I can muster. The best way for me to do that is to break it into 7 short stories. Embedded within each are links to carefully documented research . I respectfully suggest the reader try to understand these as individual stories, before synthesizing them into one complete picture.
In case you get lost in the telling, however, here is the take-away:
Gary Weiss, formerly a reporter with BusinessWeek and currently a columnist at Forbes, has actually spent over a decade posting under a variety of fake names on Usenet groups, stock message boards such as Yahoo!, and on Wikipedia, in a remarkable attempt to confuse, distort, and hijack social media so as to cover-up criminal activity.
#1) Gary’s start in social media
Gary started with simple Usenet group posting in the mid 1990’s, often making productive contributions to newsgroups devoted to matters Judaic. However, as this analysis shows, by the late 1990’s Gary had become a chronic “sock-puppeter,” that is, he maintained a stable of identities and personalities under which he could post in order to steer conversations to his ends (Gary even posted anti-Semitic statements that he could then respond to under other names). Another user caught Gary red-handed and confronted him. Establishing a pattern that would become Gary’s hallmark, when he was caught red-handed Gary Weiss practiced the “deny-deny-deny-then-disappear” school of personal responsibility.
Another pattern of Gary’s emerged as well: that of accusing anyone who disagrees with him about anything as being anti-Semitic. One person whom he has accused of hundreds of times of anti-Semitism complained to the Anti-Defamation League. Showing immense class, the ADL looked into it all and dismissed Gary out-of-hand. Notwithstanding this, Gary continues to level this allegation against that same man (under the assumption, presumably, that he understands anti-Semitism better than the ADL).
#2) Gary’s manipulation of Amazon reviews
For years Gary posted numerous reviews on Amazon praising his own books and trashing the work of other business journalists, as this analysis shows. While Gary’s sock-puppets trash other journalists (e.g., Charles Gasparino), there is one journalist whom he never bashes, but whom he uses his sock-puppets to promote: Jim Cramer. Hilariously, though they were supposed to be the work of various disinterested strangers, Gary’s sock-puppets’ glowing Amazon reviews of his own work began disappearing the moment Judd began exposing Gary’s methods.
#3) Gary goes beserk against another journalist and that journalist’ wife at the United Nations
The following remarkable history is recounted, with thorough documentation, on these two posts.
a) Ian Williams, a British journalist, was president of the United Nations Correspondents Association (UNCA) and UN correspondent for The Nation. Mr. Williams’ wife, a BBC World Service journalist (and native of Uzbekistan), also held a position within the UNCA.
b) Gary’s wife (an Indian national holding herself out as a correspondent for the Indian newspaper The Pioneer of India) applied to work within the United Nations Correspondents Association. To be admitted to the UNCA she had to demonstrate that she was in fact a journalist who covered the UN. Towards that end she submitted copies of her stories from the front page of The Pioneer of India, along with a letter from The Pioneer’s editor, Chandan Mitra, attesting to her employment there. On that basis she was admitted to the UNCA and began working in the UN offices in Manhattan.
c) Gary’s wife coveted the UNCA position above her that was then held by Ian Williams’ wife. Gary attempted to dislodge Ian Williams’ wife from that position by claiming that Mrs. Williams had lied in order to get her visa to enter the US, so as to create an opening which his own (Gary’s) wife could take. Gary’s allegations proved false.
d) Journalists at the UNCA noticed that the stories which Gary’s wife was regularly submitting from The Pioneer to document her ongoing UN coverage were of identical size and location on the front page of The Pioneer. A bit of investigation proved that they were all forged, and had been photo-shopped on a computer. The Pioneer was contacted, and its Editor Chandan Mitra stated that Mrs. Weiss had “never been engaged by The Pioneer for any purpose,” his signature on her documentation was “an outright forgery,” as was the letterhead upon which it had been generated. Simply put, Gary’s wife was a fake : she never was a reporter for The Pioneer of India. Gary’s wife’s UN credentials were revoked and she was escorted from UN premises under armed guard.
e) Within days of the exposure of Gary’s wife and her being escorted out of the UN, Gary was on Amazon writing reviews under the name “Ted Dichtler” trashing Ian Williams’ work, and within 30 days, had founded “Mediacrity,” a blog putatively devoted to media criticism, but actually largely engaged in (anonymously) hammering away at journalist Ian Williams for being “a fourth rate hack” and continuing the demonstrably false smears against Ian Williams’ wife.
f) It should also be noted that when confronting a man on a Usenet group, Gary posted that man’s wife’s name and home address. Pretty sleazy (although the man in question was a bigot, I think good manners demand that one not get even with a guy by revealing his wife’s name and address). In contradistinction to Gary, however, Judd, ever the gentleman, wrote:
“AntiSocialMedia.net has issues with Gary Weiss, not his wife. As it happens, one of the more startling examples of abuse of social media we’ve discovered anywhere and the central theme of this, the third part of this series on Gary Weiss - cannot be told without making reference to that relationship. However, because her identity is ultimately not material to this situation, we shall only refer to her as ‘Mrs. Weiss’ (though Weiss is not her real last name) and have set this site’s comment filter to immediately reject any comments that contain either her first or last name. Comments containing any other personally identifying information belonging to Mrs. Weiss will be immediately deleted and the commenter barred from further use of this site.”
I will follow the same principle here on DeepCapture.
g) Aside from the general zaniness of the story, there are at least two take-aways from this:
i) Gary had accused Mrs. Williams of lying to get her visa, but those accusations were false. Gary did this while Gary’s own wife was forging her credentials, which credentials were the basis of her own employment at the UN. Thus, Gary and his own wife were engaged in the act of which they were falsely accusing another journalist’s wife. That act takes a sociopath (e.g., the kind who could post anti-Semitic comments while continuously accusing others of anti-Semitism).
ii) What was Mrs. Weiss doing for those years when she was given access to the UN, under the guise of being a correspondent for The Pioneer of India?
#4) Gary manipulates stock message boards
Gary also stays busy posting thousands of times per year on stock message boards, as this remarkable piece by Judd exposes. Gary’s stock message board sock-puppeting and “bashing” sometimes involves switching among 6 sock-puppets while going at it for over 24 hours at a stretch, in a remarkable display of intensity and duration. What an odd “hobby.” Curiously, the stocks with which he concerns himself generally mirror the positions of Jim Cramer, Roddy Boyd, Bethany McLean, Herb Greenberg, Carol Remond, etc.
If only there were a pattern…
#5) Gary Weiss, Pyschopath: The Prequel
At this point you are probably wondering, “Who in the hell is Gary Weiss?” Allow me to give you seven pieces of background, a-g.
a) In the 1990’s, Gary made a name for himself with a BusinessWeek series exposing the Italian Mob (in particular, the Gambino Crime Family) and its infiltration of Wall Street. Bravo. But he relied heavily on two sources. One journalist who interviewed them told me that after debriefing them, and examining materials they supplied, “I can safely say that Gary Weiss built his career in the 1990’s just typing up whatever two sources gave him.”
b) In the mid-1990’s a Forbes reporter based in Russia named “Paul Klebnikov” wrote an expose called, “The Godfather of the Kremlin?” about an alleged Russian Mafia figure named Boris Berezovsky.
c) In 1999 Al Chalem and Laier Lehmann, two New Jersey stockbrokers operating a New Jersey securities firm called “Harbor Securities,” were executed in a New Jersey mansion. The same two sources who had supplied Gary so much other material presented him with evidence that this time it was not the Italian Mafia, but the Russian Mafia, and in particular, Boris Berezovsky. Gary then ran a story that (they maintained) fabricated everything they had told him in an attempt to divert attention from Russian involvement and focus it on (in this case non-existent) Italian Mob involvement. One of Gary’s sources actually sued Gary in an attempt to get public that which he felt Gary was suppressing.
d) In 2000, Forbes’ Paul Klebnikov completed a book, The Godfather of the Kremlin. It reiterated his earlier allegations about Mr. Berezovsky, but without the question mark. Quickly there appeared a series of anonymous Amazon reviews trashing Mr. Klebnikov’s book and discounting its conclusions. On the same days these reviews appeared on Amazon, Gary had a rash of positive reviews of his work. This and the language of the reviews trashing Mr. Klebnikov’s work raise an obvious question: if these startling coincidences of timing were not in fact coincidences, why was Gary adding to his normal routine (that is, going on Amazon with sock-puppets to promote his own work) the additional labor of trying to discredit the work of a Forbes journalist (Paul Klebnikov) who was trying to expose the Russian Mob? And is this related to the claim of his own two sources that his coverage of the execution of the two stockbrokers was designed to move attention away from the Russians and onto the Italian Mob?
e) On July 9, 2004, Paul Klebnikov was assassinated leaving the Moscow offices of Forbes.
f) Days later in July, 2004, Gary left BusinessWeek. If you ever want to shut a BusinessWeek reporter up, ask, “What were the circumstances surrounding the departure of Gary Weiss from BusinessWeek?” In a notoriously gossipy crowd, it is a closely guarded secret.
g) One of the first things Gary seems to have done after departing BusinessWeek was to join Project Klebnikov, “The global media alliance investigating the July 9th, 2004 murder of Paul Klebnikov, the editor-in-chief of the Russian edition of Forbes magazine.” I’ll bet O.J. Simpson finds his wife’s real killer before Gary solves that investigation.
#6) Gary covers-up for the DTCC from within DTCC offices:
Speaking of strange places from which to post: at the heart of our nation’s stock settlement system, and hence, at the heart of the issues of concern to DeepCapture, is a nearly unknown corporation called “The DTCC.” The company provides settlement for the nation’s capital market: $1.5 quadrillion in trades are settled there every year (that is, about 30X the economic output of the entire planet). For most of its history it has largely escaped regulation: state regulators are admonished that they cannot peer inside because the DTCC is federally regulated, and the DTCC has told federal regulators it escapes their regulation due to its strange ownership structure (one former federal regulator, and one former employee of the DTCC, have both told me the feds would not know where to begin if they tried to regulate it).
In short, at the heart of the world’s economy is an enourmous black box that is regulated except on the days it’s not, and through which 30X the economic output of the world flows. It is my contention that much of Wall Street’s illegal activity is funneled through this strange entity.
The huge, nondescript building in downtown Manhattan that houses the DTCC is something of a Fort Knox. Long-gun toting guards watch the entrances, and journalists who have been inside tell me that entering it is tougher than getting into the Federal Reserve or any comparable institution.
Gary recently made a slip that revealed he was inside the offices of the DTCC, using one of their computers to post on Wikipedia about the DTCC. Given that it’s like getting into Fort Knox, I’m pretty sure that’s odd. However, it casts some light on why Gary has been stridently denying that the DTCC is dirty and that none of the issues I have been raising regarding stock market manipulation are legitimate, and why he has (according to a colleague of his in the financial press sympathetic to me) devoted 93% of his blogs to criticizing my efforts to expose the illegal Wall Street activity which, I claim, intersects within the DTCC. Just as interestingly, when given opportunity to comment, the DTCC went into cover-up mode straight out of Bizarro World.
#7) The Finale
The following heavily-documented story qualifies as “mind-blowing.” It is so extraordinary, in fact, many people find it almost impossible to synthesize. Therefore I am going to tell it by first giving a three paragraph synopsis, then by recounting the story in 14 steps, a-n, with documentation for each.
The synopsis:
The intellectual battle over the existence of criminal naked short-selling has been won. As is demonstrated throughout DeepCapture, what was dismissed three years ago as a fringe theory is now no longer in serious dispute. There is an ongoing criminal prosecution and regulators and SRO’s have recently imposed multimillion fines over it. Papers by academic and government economists have confirmed it and reputable journalists have broken news stories concerning its effects. A Bloomberg documentary concerning naked short selling was nominated for an Emmy for long-form investigative journalism. Last summer SEC Chairman Christopher Cox aknowledged that it is real and illegal. Just last week, SEC Chairman Cox again publicly and matter-of-factly discussed the reality of this crime in a hearing at the United States Senate, in answer to sharp questioning from US Senator Bob Bennett. Earlier this week, Dr. Robert Shapiro, a Fellow of the National Bureau of Economic Research, Brookings, Harvard, and a former US Undersecretary of Commerce for Economics, explained the reality and implications of this crime on Canada’s Business News Network (start at minute 17).
Yet throughout the evolution of this awareness, the Wikipedia page on naked shorting has fought a steadfast rearguard action. It will be a matter for a future historian to reconstruct in detail, but at all times the thrust of that page has been to deny and deride the emerging understanding of the issue. Since the time when complete denial became impossible, it has labored mightily to minimize the problem of naked short-selling and all the attendant issues discussed in Deep Capture, citing every critic (Gary Weiss, Floyd Norris, Joe Nocera, and Holman Jenkins of the WSJ) while allowing only barest mention of the positive attention it has received from investigative journalists and economists.
I believe that the chief reason this happened was because Gary Weiss used the name “Mantanmoreland” (and later, “Samiharris”) to hijack the Wikipedia articles on naked short selling, Patrick Byrne, and Overstock.com (as well as the page on Gary Weiss himself). In addition, all the mechanisms within Wikipedia which are supposed to prevent such an act were subverted by Wikipedia’s elites on Gary’s behalf. Judd exposed Gary within Wikipedia, but Wikipedelites suppressed Judd’s evidence. When he began posting it off-Wikipedia on AntisocialMedia.net, Wikipedelites fought to make mention of “Antisocialmedia.net” or “Judd Bagley” a thought-crime within Wikipedia (under the spurious reasoning that someone mentioning either of them had to be a sock-puppet of Judd). Hence, no evidence contrary to official doctrine was permitted at “the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.” However, evidence slowly circulated within the Wikipedia-in-Exile-community until the conventional Wikipedians began looking into Gary. Wikipedia ’s founder Jimbo Wales did everything possible to stop their investigation, although it turns out he knew all along that Judd was right. It has turned into a civil war within the Wikipedia community.
I turn take the paragraph immediately preceding this one, and serve its full story, cut into 14 bite-sized pieces, a-n.
The evidence:
a) Judd posted evidence that Gary was manipulating Wikipedia under the name “Mantanmoreland” (and later, “Samiharris”).
b) When confronted, Gary denied it, saying, “Similarly [Judd Bagley] continues to publish the lie that I am this ‘Mantanmoreland’ long after it was, again, denied by both myself and Jimbo Wales of Wikipedia.”
c) Judd sent evidence to a Wikipedia uber-administrator named “SlimVirgin,” who was posing as a neutral arbiter. However, as this demonstrates, when SlimVirgin received Judd’s evidence she immediately forwarded it to Gary (without even opening it herself).
d) A community debate ensued over whether Mantanmoreland was guilty of a Conflict Of Interest violation when he created and dominated the “Gary Weiss” page (i.e., whether or not he was in fact Gary Weiss). A highly regarded Wikipedia figure named “Cla68″ (apparently a former military officer living in Asia with encyclopedic knowledge of so many subjects that he is revered within Wikipedia) got close to taking sides against Gary. In a step that was extremely unusual given Wikipedia’s philosophies of transparency and strict retention of all sides of a debate, Wikipedia-founder Jimbo Wales personally intervened to delete the record of the debate. As Jimbo Wales wrote:
“The page contained wildly inappropriate speculation that a notable author was sock-puppeting. As I am sure you are aware, many authors have had their careers badly damaged by being caught sockpuppeting at Amazon, etc., and it is deeply wrong for people to ask me to restore a page with such speculations in Wikipedia after the claims have already been investigated and dismissed. If there are further problems in the future, there will be no problem restoring the article at that time. In the meantime, it is my position that MOST AfD pages for living persons or active companies should be courtesy blanked (at a minimum) as a standard process, and deleted in all cases where there was inappropriate commentary. This is not the current policy, but current policy does allow for deletions of material which is potentially hurtful to people.–Jimbo Wales 01:42, 13 November 2006 (UTC)”
e) Taking things to an Orwellian extreme the “ArbCom” (”Arbitration Committee”) attempted to pass a “BADSITES” policy prohibiting mention of “Judd Bagley” and “antisocialmedia.net,” the site Judd had started to post evidence as he gathered it (all evidence having been prohibited within Wikipedia itself). The debate ran for many weeks, but throughout it, it was prohibited even to name “Judd Bagley” or “antisocialmedia.net.” That is, for many weeks a debate raged in which the accused (Judd Bagley and his site antisocialmedia.net) could not be named, nor was the accused allowed to have a voice, nor were dissenting opinions permitted (on the grounds that anyone who wrote one must be a sock-puppet of the accused). All this happened on Wikipedia, “the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.”
f) Throughout that process, anyone trying to mention Judd or Antisocialmedia.net, or positions supported by either, was banned as a Wordbomb sock-puppet (note the circularity of this position: WikiTruth demands that Goldstein be banned, and anyone sounding like he might agree with Goldstein will be banned, because clearly, he must be a sock-puppet of Goldstein. Hey, it worked in 1984, right?)
“Any user who creates links to the attack site or references it (other than in the context of this Arbitration) may be banned.”
g) Eventually, this was actually proposed as a matter of official policy for Wikipedia (”the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.”)
“After warning, or without warning in the case of users familiar with the issue, users who link to the attack site or reference it may be blocked for an appropriate period of time.” (emphasis added)
h) As if that were not enough, in an attempt to prevent Judd Bagely from pointing out to observers the manifest circularities, fabrications, and sheer Orwellianism of the BADSITES debate, Wikipedia blocked Overstock and 1,000 homes around Judd Bagley’s neighborhood, as was exposed in this article that appeared in the well-regarded on-line British tech journal, The Register.
i) That effort collapsed of its own foul weight. As this other investigative piece in The Register exposed, however, it did spawn the creation of a secret email list for Wikipedia elites wherein they plotted how to shape the discourse within Wikipedia.
j) Just when you thought this story could not be any weirder, an email has surfaced that was written by Jimbo Wales in September, 2007 at the start of this conflagration, where he admitted already believing that Mantanmoreland was Gary Weiss (this exchange occurred on another of those secret elite-only email lists):
Mantanmoreland@gmail.com: “…I am not going to reveal my real identity to prove that just because Judd Bagley is making a fuss. Rest assured that after all that has happened I am more determined than ever to not reveal my real identity to any person associated with Wikipedia.”
jwales@wikia.com(Jimbo Wales): “I just want to go on record as saying that I believe the reason for this is that Mantanmoreland is in fact Gary Weiss.”
k) Despite this private admission, Jimbo spent the next four months publicly defaming Judd and intimidating anyone who explored Gary Weiss’s activities on Wikipedia. For example, he wrote to the renowned Wikipedian Cla68:
“I fear that you have been manipulated by lying stalkers and trolls, and I am happy to talk to you about it privately, but I am sick of the drama around this issue on this page, and it absolutely has to come to an end…– Jimbo Wales 01:32, 21 October 2007 (UTC)”
l) Despite Jimbo’s opposition (and in the face of his attempts to derail it), over the last two weeks the Wikipedia community has to its credit performed exhaustive analysis of the Mantanmoreland account (as well as “Samiharris”, an additional Gary Weiss sock-puppet) and come down overwhelmingly in favor of Judd’s original thesis.
m) Even in that setting, Wales again attempted to derail the process and deny his earlier recognition of a link between Gary Weiss and Mantanmoreland. Here Jimbo dances on an arcane postmodern distinction between “knowing” and “believing it is a fact that” (in this context it’s a distinction without a difference, Jimbo). Jimbo’s statement is a compendium of fallacies from Logic 101 (e.g., argument from authority, ignoring contravening evidence, ad hominem attacks, non sequiturs, and straw-man rebuttals).
“Because there has been unseemly and false speculation in some quarters that I know this (or related claims) to be true, and that I have admitted as such in private forums, it is important for me to state what I know and what I don’t know.
“Claims about Mantanmoreland being author Gary Weiss have been floating around for a long time. Various claims of ‘proof’ have been made, none of which I have found convincing. At times I have believed one way, at times I have believed another way. I have investigated the claims to the best of my ability and I have been unable to find proof one way or the other.
“An email I sent to Mantanmoreland and others has been widely quoted as evidence that I supposedly ‘know’ this claim to be true. Such interpretations are malarky, and most of the people making the claims appear to me to be acting in bad faith. What I said, at a point in time, was that I believed it to be true that Mantanmoreland == Gary Weiss. This was specifically in the context of a conversation in which I was trying to get more evidence… a proof, one way or the other. Me believing at a point in time in an investigation that something was true, is not the same thing as an assertion that it is true, nor of an “admission” or anything else.
“Mantanmoreland steadfastly denies being Gary Weiss. Ask him yourself if you want to know.
“Related allegations that I am protecting a ‘friend’ are nonsense. Mantanmoreland and I do not get along well at all.
“Related allegations that I have some vested interest in the underlying content dispute are even worse nonsense. I have no opinion about ‘naked short selling’. I have never sold a stock short in my life. I have no financial interests of any kind in this case. If you read anything otherwise, or hints to that effect, on the overstock.com blog or elsewhere, well, I don’t know was else to say but: nonsense. I think such allegations tell more about the people who are making them than anything else.
“Regarding the specific claim at issue here, whether Samiharris and Mantanmoreland are the same user, I can say quite firmly that I do not believe it to be true. I have interacted (argued!) with both users over an extended period of time by private email, and I have not seen any reason to think it true. The offsite ‘evidence’ relating to this comes from a highly questionable source, and furthermore strikes me as completely unpersuasive. For all we know, these are faked screenshots from someone who has engaged in a campaign of harassment and bad behavior (on-wiki and off-wiki) that has been really astounding to witness.
“I have reviewed my email archives to look for similarities between the users. I have examined email headers. I have looked for textual similarities, time patterns, etc. I see nothing to lead me to a conclusion that Sami Harris and Mantanmoreland are the same user.
“For these reasons, I do not believe it to be true that Mantanmoreland == Samiharris. –Jimbo Wales (talk) 02:19, 15 February 2008 (UTC)”
n) All but Weiss’s most dogmatic defenders were silenced, however, when a law student from Chicago published a graph showing the dates and times of all Mantanmoreland’s Wikipedia edits. In it, one can clearly note two things: the rich posting patterns of Mantanmoreland and Samiharris never overlap (statistically, highly improbable); and more importantly, a perfect “phase shift” of precisely the right duration corresponding to a period in which Gary’s own Forbes work revealed him to be in India.
Conclusion
That Gary Weiss is a psychopath and a Scaramouch should be clear, but this is incidental. Here is the moral of the tale: the great dilemma that journalists face is that they want to be first with a story, but most do not have the nerve to publish a story that is too far ahead of the pack. I believe Gary Weiss went to such effort to hijack these Wikipedia articles because somewhere, someone understands that professional journalists, much as they deride Wikipedia, will never depart more than a few degrees from a Wikipedia consensus. Thus if one can hijack a page so that it simply repeats the accusations of a few co-opted journalists, then rare is the new journalist who will come along and escape that equilibrium. Thus, by hijacking the Wikipedia consensus one can corral much of the industry of modern professional journalism (this is all the more reason why those few journalists who departed from that consensus over the last year, however meekly or bravely, deserve admiration).
The deeper question, then, is this: how many social institutions have failed when a “journalist” is manipulating the discourse within both the news and social media, and all the mechanisms that should curtail him are short-circuited? Or, more to the point of DeepCapture, trying to drown out a scandal while simultaneously working to manipulate social media from within the corporation at the heart of that scandal?
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Gary Weiss???
Hier mal ein paar Infos zu deinem Gary den du so gerne zitierst.
Gary Weiss, Psychopath & Scaramouch
February 19th, 2008 by Patrick Byrne
I now turn to Gary Weiss. Last year one of the most prominent journalists on Wall Street warned me, “I’ve known Weiss for years. Be careful. He’s a psychopath.” As you will see, he was neither joking nor exaggerating. I think, however, that Gary is better described as a “Scaramouch.”
In a series of brilliant investigations, Judd Bagley, a reporter-investigator-technologist friend of mine (and more recently, I am proud to say, a colleague) studied the IP footprints Gary’s computers have left scattered across the Internet for over a decade, and posted his extraordinary analyses of them on his cleverly-titled site, “Antisocialmedia.net”. Judd’s posts are as disturbing with regard to what they reveal about our society’s discourse, as they are regarding the activities of Gary himself.
It is a complex story that I recount below in as clear and straightforward a manner as I can muster. The best way for me to do that is to break it into 7 short stories. Embedded within each are links to carefully documented research . I respectfully suggest the reader try to understand these as individual stories, before synthesizing them into one complete picture.
In case you get lost in the telling, however, here is the take-away:
Gary Weiss, formerly a reporter with BusinessWeek and currently a columnist at Forbes, has actually spent over a decade posting under a variety of fake names on Usenet groups, stock message boards such as Yahoo!, and on Wikipedia, in a remarkable attempt to confuse, distort, and hijack social media so as to cover-up criminal activity.
#1) Gary’s start in social media
Gary started with simple Usenet group posting in the mid 1990’s, often making productive contributions to newsgroups devoted to matters Judaic. However, as this analysis shows, by the late 1990’s Gary had become a chronic “sock-puppeter,” that is, he maintained a stable of identities and personalities under which he could post in order to steer conversations to his ends (Gary even posted anti-Semitic statements that he could then respond to under other names). Another user caught Gary red-handed and confronted him. Establishing a pattern that would become Gary’s hallmark, when he was caught red-handed Gary Weiss practiced the “deny-deny-deny-then-disappear” school of personal responsibility.
Another pattern of Gary’s emerged as well: that of accusing anyone who disagrees with him about anything as being anti-Semitic. One person whom he has accused of hundreds of times of anti-Semitism complained to the Anti-Defamation League. Showing immense class, the ADL looked into it all and dismissed Gary out-of-hand. Notwithstanding this, Gary continues to level this allegation against that same man (under the assumption, presumably, that he understands anti-Semitism better than the ADL).
#2) Gary’s manipulation of Amazon reviews
For years Gary posted numerous reviews on Amazon praising his own books and trashing the work of other business journalists, as this analysis shows. While Gary’s sock-puppets trash other journalists (e.g., Charles Gasparino), there is one journalist whom he never bashes, but whom he uses his sock-puppets to promote: Jim Cramer. Hilariously, though they were supposed to be the work of various disinterested strangers, Gary’s sock-puppets’ glowing Amazon reviews of his own work began disappearing the moment Judd began exposing Gary’s methods.
#3) Gary goes beserk against another journalist and that journalist’ wife at the United Nations
The following remarkable history is recounted, with thorough documentation, on these two posts.
a) Ian Williams, a British journalist, was president of the United Nations Correspondents Association (UNCA) and UN correspondent for The Nation. Mr. Williams’ wife, a BBC World Service journalist (and native of Uzbekistan), also held a position within the UNCA.
b) Gary’s wife (an Indian national holding herself out as a correspondent for the Indian newspaper The Pioneer of India) applied to work within the United Nations Correspondents Association. To be admitted to the UNCA she had to demonstrate that she was in fact a journalist who covered the UN. Towards that end she submitted copies of her stories from the front page of The Pioneer of India, along with a letter from The Pioneer’s editor, Chandan Mitra, attesting to her employment there. On that basis she was admitted to the UNCA and began working in the UN offices in Manhattan.
c) Gary’s wife coveted the UNCA position above her that was then held by Ian Williams’ wife. Gary attempted to dislodge Ian Williams’ wife from that position by claiming that Mrs. Williams had lied in order to get her visa to enter the US, so as to create an opening which his own (Gary’s) wife could take. Gary’s allegations proved false.
d) Journalists at the UNCA noticed that the stories which Gary’s wife was regularly submitting from The Pioneer to document her ongoing UN coverage were of identical size and location on the front page of The Pioneer. A bit of investigation proved that they were all forged, and had been photo-shopped on a computer. The Pioneer was contacted, and its Editor Chandan Mitra stated that Mrs. Weiss had “never been engaged by The Pioneer for any purpose,” his signature on her documentation was “an outright forgery,” as was the letterhead upon which it had been generated. Simply put, Gary’s wife was a fake : she never was a reporter for The Pioneer of India. Gary’s wife’s UN credentials were revoked and she was escorted from UN premises under armed guard.
e) Within days of the exposure of Gary’s wife and her being escorted out of the UN, Gary was on Amazon writing reviews under the name “Ted Dichtler” trashing Ian Williams’ work, and within 30 days, had founded “Mediacrity,” a blog putatively devoted to media criticism, but actually largely engaged in (anonymously) hammering away at journalist Ian Williams for being “a fourth rate hack” and continuing the demonstrably false smears against Ian Williams’ wife.
f) It should also be noted that when confronting a man on a Usenet group, Gary posted that man’s wife’s name and home address. Pretty sleazy (although the man in question was a bigot, I think good manners demand that one not get even with a guy by revealing his wife’s name and address). In contradistinction to Gary, however, Judd, ever the gentleman, wrote:
“AntiSocialMedia.net has issues with Gary Weiss, not his wife. As it happens, one of the more startling examples of abuse of social media we’ve discovered anywhere and the central theme of this, the third part of this series on Gary Weiss - cannot be told without making reference to that relationship. However, because her identity is ultimately not material to this situation, we shall only refer to her as ‘Mrs. Weiss’ (though Weiss is not her real last name) and have set this site’s comment filter to immediately reject any comments that contain either her first or last name. Comments containing any other personally identifying information belonging to Mrs. Weiss will be immediately deleted and the commenter barred from further use of this site.”
I will follow the same principle here on DeepCapture.
g) Aside from the general zaniness of the story, there are at least two take-aways from this:
i) Gary had accused Mrs. Williams of lying to get her visa, but those accusations were false. Gary did this while Gary’s own wife was forging her credentials, which credentials were the basis of her own employment at the UN. Thus, Gary and his own wife were engaged in the act of which they were falsely accusing another journalist’s wife. That act takes a sociopath (e.g., the kind who could post anti-Semitic comments while continuously accusing others of anti-Semitism).
ii) What was Mrs. Weiss doing for those years when she was given access to the UN, under the guise of being a correspondent for The Pioneer of India?
#4) Gary manipulates stock message boards
Gary also stays busy posting thousands of times per year on stock message boards, as this remarkable piece by Judd exposes. Gary’s stock message board sock-puppeting and “bashing” sometimes involves switching among 6 sock-puppets while going at it for over 24 hours at a stretch, in a remarkable display of intensity and duration. What an odd “hobby.” Curiously, the stocks with which he concerns himself generally mirror the positions of Jim Cramer, Roddy Boyd, Bethany McLean, Herb Greenberg, Carol Remond, etc.
If only there were a pattern…
#5) Gary Weiss, Pyschopath: The Prequel
At this point you are probably wondering, “Who in the hell is Gary Weiss?” Allow me to give you seven pieces of background, a-g.
a) In the 1990’s, Gary made a name for himself with a BusinessWeek series exposing the Italian Mob (in particular, the Gambino Crime Family) and its infiltration of Wall Street. Bravo. But he relied heavily on two sources. One journalist who interviewed them told me that after debriefing them, and examining materials they supplied, “I can safely say that Gary Weiss built his career in the 1990’s just typing up whatever two sources gave him.”
b) In the mid-1990’s a Forbes reporter based in Russia named “Paul Klebnikov” wrote an expose called, “The Godfather of the Kremlin?” about an alleged Russian Mafia figure named Boris Berezovsky.
c) In 1999 Al Chalem and Laier Lehmann, two New Jersey stockbrokers operating a New Jersey securities firm called “Harbor Securities,” were executed in a New Jersey mansion. The same two sources who had supplied Gary so much other material presented him with evidence that this time it was not the Italian Mafia, but the Russian Mafia, and in particular, Boris Berezovsky. Gary then ran a story that (they maintained) fabricated everything they had told him in an attempt to divert attention from Russian involvement and focus it on (in this case non-existent) Italian Mob involvement. One of Gary’s sources actually sued Gary in an attempt to get public that which he felt Gary was suppressing.
d) In 2000, Forbes’ Paul Klebnikov completed a book, The Godfather of the Kremlin. It reiterated his earlier allegations about Mr. Berezovsky, but without the question mark. Quickly there appeared a series of anonymous Amazon reviews trashing Mr. Klebnikov’s book and discounting its conclusions. On the same days these reviews appeared on Amazon, Gary had a rash of positive reviews of his work. This and the language of the reviews trashing Mr. Klebnikov’s work raise an obvious question: if these startling coincidences of timing were not in fact coincidences, why was Gary adding to his normal routine (that is, going on Amazon with sock-puppets to promote his own work) the additional labor of trying to discredit the work of a Forbes journalist (Paul Klebnikov) who was trying to expose the Russian Mob? And is this related to the claim of his own two sources that his coverage of the execution of the two stockbrokers was designed to move attention away from the Russians and onto the Italian Mob?
e) On July 9, 2004, Paul Klebnikov was assassinated leaving the Moscow offices of Forbes.
f) Days later in July, 2004, Gary left BusinessWeek. If you ever want to shut a BusinessWeek reporter up, ask, “What were the circumstances surrounding the departure of Gary Weiss from BusinessWeek?” In a notoriously gossipy crowd, it is a closely guarded secret.
g) One of the first things Gary seems to have done after departing BusinessWeek was to join Project Klebnikov, “The global media alliance investigating the July 9th, 2004 murder of Paul Klebnikov, the editor-in-chief of the Russian edition of Forbes magazine.” I’ll bet O.J. Simpson finds his wife’s real killer before Gary solves that investigation.
#6) Gary covers-up for the DTCC from within DTCC offices:
Speaking of strange places from which to post: at the heart of our nation’s stock settlement system, and hence, at the heart of the issues of concern to DeepCapture, is a nearly unknown corporation called “The DTCC.” The company provides settlement for the nation’s capital market: $1.5 quadrillion in trades are settled there every year (that is, about 30X the economic output of the entire planet). For most of its history it has largely escaped regulation: state regulators are admonished that they cannot peer inside because the DTCC is federally regulated, and the DTCC has told federal regulators it escapes their regulation due to its strange ownership structure (one former federal regulator, and one former employee of the DTCC, have both told me the feds would not know where to begin if they tried to regulate it).
In short, at the heart of the world’s economy is an enourmous black box that is regulated except on the days it’s not, and through which 30X the economic output of the world flows. It is my contention that much of Wall Street’s illegal activity is funneled through this strange entity.
The huge, nondescript building in downtown Manhattan that houses the DTCC is something of a Fort Knox. Long-gun toting guards watch the entrances, and journalists who have been inside tell me that entering it is tougher than getting into the Federal Reserve or any comparable institution.
Gary recently made a slip that revealed he was inside the offices of the DTCC, using one of their computers to post on Wikipedia about the DTCC. Given that it’s like getting into Fort Knox, I’m pretty sure that’s odd. However, it casts some light on why Gary has been stridently denying that the DTCC is dirty and that none of the issues I have been raising regarding stock market manipulation are legitimate, and why he has (according to a colleague of his in the financial press sympathetic to me) devoted 93% of his blogs to criticizing my efforts to expose the illegal Wall Street activity which, I claim, intersects within the DTCC. Just as interestingly, when given opportunity to comment, the DTCC went into cover-up mode straight out of Bizarro World.
#7) The Finale
The following heavily-documented story qualifies as “mind-blowing.” It is so extraordinary, in fact, many people find it almost impossible to synthesize. Therefore I am going to tell it by first giving a three paragraph synopsis, then by recounting the story in 14 steps, a-n, with documentation for each.
The synopsis:
The intellectual battle over the existence of criminal naked short-selling has been won. As is demonstrated throughout DeepCapture, what was dismissed three years ago as a fringe theory is now no longer in serious dispute. There is an ongoing criminal prosecution and regulators and SRO’s have recently imposed multimillion fines over it. Papers by academic and government economists have confirmed it and reputable journalists have broken news stories concerning its effects. A Bloomberg documentary concerning naked short selling was nominated for an Emmy for long-form investigative journalism. Last summer SEC Chairman Christopher Cox aknowledged that it is real and illegal. Just last week, SEC Chairman Cox again publicly and matter-of-factly discussed the reality of this crime in a hearing at the United States Senate, in answer to sharp questioning from US Senator Bob Bennett. Earlier this week, Dr. Robert Shapiro, a Fellow of the National Bureau of Economic Research, Brookings, Harvard, and a former US Undersecretary of Commerce for Economics, explained the reality and implications of this crime on Canada’s Business News Network (start at minute 17).
Yet throughout the evolution of this awareness, the Wikipedia page on naked shorting has fought a steadfast rearguard action. It will be a matter for a future historian to reconstruct in detail, but at all times the thrust of that page has been to deny and deride the emerging understanding of the issue. Since the time when complete denial became impossible, it has labored mightily to minimize the problem of naked short-selling and all the attendant issues discussed in Deep Capture, citing every critic (Gary Weiss, Floyd Norris, Joe Nocera, and Holman Jenkins of the WSJ) while allowing only barest mention of the positive attention it has received from investigative journalists and economists.
I believe that the chief reason this happened was because Gary Weiss used the name “Mantanmoreland” (and later, “Samiharris”) to hijack the Wikipedia articles on naked short selling, Patrick Byrne, and Overstock.com (as well as the page on Gary Weiss himself). In addition, all the mechanisms within Wikipedia which are supposed to prevent such an act were subverted by Wikipedia’s elites on Gary’s behalf. Judd exposed Gary within Wikipedia, but Wikipedelites suppressed Judd’s evidence. When he began posting it off-Wikipedia on AntisocialMedia.net, Wikipedelites fought to make mention of “Antisocialmedia.net” or “Judd Bagley” a thought-crime within Wikipedia (under the spurious reasoning that someone mentioning either of them had to be a sock-puppet of Judd). Hence, no evidence contrary to official doctrine was permitted at “the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.” However, evidence slowly circulated within the Wikipedia-in-Exile-community until the conventional Wikipedians began looking into Gary. Wikipedia ’s founder Jimbo Wales did everything possible to stop their investigation, although it turns out he knew all along that Judd was right. It has turned into a civil war within the Wikipedia community.
I turn take the paragraph immediately preceding this one, and serve its full story, cut into 14 bite-sized pieces, a-n.
The evidence:
a) Judd posted evidence that Gary was manipulating Wikipedia under the name “Mantanmoreland” (and later, “Samiharris”).
b) When confronted, Gary denied it, saying, “Similarly [Judd Bagley] continues to publish the lie that I am this ‘Mantanmoreland’ long after it was, again, denied by both myself and Jimbo Wales of Wikipedia.”
c) Judd sent evidence to a Wikipedia uber-administrator named “SlimVirgin,” who was posing as a neutral arbiter. However, as this demonstrates, when SlimVirgin received Judd’s evidence she immediately forwarded it to Gary (without even opening it herself).
d) A community debate ensued over whether Mantanmoreland was guilty of a Conflict Of Interest violation when he created and dominated the “Gary Weiss” page (i.e., whether or not he was in fact Gary Weiss). A highly regarded Wikipedia figure named “Cla68″ (apparently a former military officer living in Asia with encyclopedic knowledge of so many subjects that he is revered within Wikipedia) got close to taking sides against Gary. In a step that was extremely unusual given Wikipedia’s philosophies of transparency and strict retention of all sides of a debate, Wikipedia-founder Jimbo Wales personally intervened to delete the record of the debate. As Jimbo Wales wrote:
“The page contained wildly inappropriate speculation that a notable author was sock-puppeting. As I am sure you are aware, many authors have had their careers badly damaged by being caught sockpuppeting at Amazon, etc., and it is deeply wrong for people to ask me to restore a page with such speculations in Wikipedia after the claims have already been investigated and dismissed. If there are further problems in the future, there will be no problem restoring the article at that time. In the meantime, it is my position that MOST AfD pages for living persons or active companies should be courtesy blanked (at a minimum) as a standard process, and deleted in all cases where there was inappropriate commentary. This is not the current policy, but current policy does allow for deletions of material which is potentially hurtful to people.–Jimbo Wales 01:42, 13 November 2006 (UTC)”
e) Taking things to an Orwellian extreme the “ArbCom” (”Arbitration Committee”) attempted to pass a “BADSITES” policy prohibiting mention of “Judd Bagley” and “antisocialmedia.net,” the site Judd had started to post evidence as he gathered it (all evidence having been prohibited within Wikipedia itself). The debate ran for many weeks, but throughout it, it was prohibited even to name “Judd Bagley” or “antisocialmedia.net.” That is, for many weeks a debate raged in which the accused (Judd Bagley and his site antisocialmedia.net) could not be named, nor was the accused allowed to have a voice, nor were dissenting opinions permitted (on the grounds that anyone who wrote one must be a sock-puppet of the accused). All this happened on Wikipedia, “the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.”
f) Throughout that process, anyone trying to mention Judd or Antisocialmedia.net, or positions supported by either, was banned as a Wordbomb sock-puppet (note the circularity of this position: WikiTruth demands that Goldstein be banned, and anyone sounding like he might agree with Goldstein will be banned, because clearly, he must be a sock-puppet of Goldstein. Hey, it worked in 1984, right?)
“Any user who creates links to the attack site or references it (other than in the context of this Arbitration) may be banned.”
g) Eventually, this was actually proposed as a matter of official policy for Wikipedia (”the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.”)
“After warning, or without warning in the case of users familiar with the issue, users who link to the attack site or reference it may be blocked for an appropriate period of time.” (emphasis added)
h) As if that were not enough, in an attempt to prevent Judd Bagely from pointing out to observers the manifest circularities, fabrications, and sheer Orwellianism of the BADSITES debate, Wikipedia blocked Overstock and 1,000 homes around Judd Bagley’s neighborhood, as was exposed in this article that appeared in the well-regarded on-line British tech journal, The Register.
i) That effort collapsed of its own foul weight. As this other investigative piece in The Register exposed, however, it did spawn the creation of a secret email list for Wikipedia elites wherein they plotted how to shape the discourse within Wikipedia.
j) Just when you thought this story could not be any weirder, an email has surfaced that was written by Jimbo Wales in September, 2007 at the start of this conflagration, where he admitted already believing that Mantanmoreland was Gary Weiss (this exchange occurred on another of those secret elite-only email lists):
Mantanmoreland@gmail.com: “…I am not going to reveal my real identity to prove that just because Judd Bagley is making a fuss. Rest assured that after all that has happened I am more determined than ever to not reveal my real identity to any person associated with Wikipedia.”
jwales@wikia.com(Jimbo Wales): “I just want to go on record as saying that I believe the reason for this is that Mantanmoreland is in fact Gary Weiss.”
k) Despite this private admission, Jimbo spent the next four months publicly defaming Judd and intimidating anyone who explored Gary Weiss’s activities on Wikipedia. For example, he wrote to the renowned Wikipedian Cla68:
“I fear that you have been manipulated by lying stalkers and trolls, and I am happy to talk to you about it privately, but I am sick of the drama around this issue on this page, and it absolutely has to come to an end…– Jimbo Wales 01:32, 21 October 2007 (UTC)”
l) Despite Jimbo’s opposition (and in the face of his attempts to derail it), over the last two weeks the Wikipedia community has to its credit performed exhaustive analysis of the Mantanmoreland account (as well as “Samiharris”, an additional Gary Weiss sock-puppet) and come down overwhelmingly in favor of Judd’s original thesis.
m) Even in that setting, Wales again attempted to derail the process and deny his earlier recognition of a link between Gary Weiss and Mantanmoreland. Here Jimbo dances on an arcane postmodern distinction between “knowing” and “believing it is a fact that” (in this context it’s a distinction without a difference, Jimbo). Jimbo’s statement is a compendium of fallacies from Logic 101 (e.g., argument from authority, ignoring contravening evidence, ad hominem attacks, non sequiturs, and straw-man rebuttals).
“Because there has been unseemly and false speculation in some quarters that I know this (or related claims) to be true, and that I have admitted as such in private forums, it is important for me to state what I know and what I don’t know.
“Claims about Mantanmoreland being author Gary Weiss have been floating around for a long time. Various claims of ‘proof’ have been made, none of which I have found convincing. At times I have believed one way, at times I have believed another way. I have investigated the claims to the best of my ability and I have been unable to find proof one way or the other.
“An email I sent to Mantanmoreland and others has been widely quoted as evidence that I supposedly ‘know’ this claim to be true. Such interpretations are malarky, and most of the people making the claims appear to me to be acting in bad faith. What I said, at a point in time, was that I believed it to be true that Mantanmoreland == Gary Weiss. This was specifically in the context of a conversation in which I was trying to get more evidence… a proof, one way or the other. Me believing at a point in time in an investigation that something was true, is not the same thing as an assertion that it is true, nor of an “admission” or anything else.
“Mantanmoreland steadfastly denies being Gary Weiss. Ask him yourself if you want to know.
“Related allegations that I am protecting a ‘friend’ are nonsense. Mantanmoreland and I do not get along well at all.
“Related allegations that I have some vested interest in the underlying content dispute are even worse nonsense. I have no opinion about ‘naked short selling’. I have never sold a stock short in my life. I have no financial interests of any kind in this case. If you read anything otherwise, or hints to that effect, on the overstock.com blog or elsewhere, well, I don’t know was else to say but: nonsense. I think such allegations tell more about the people who are making them than anything else.
“Regarding the specific claim at issue here, whether Samiharris and Mantanmoreland are the same user, I can say quite firmly that I do not believe it to be true. I have interacted (argued!) with both users over an extended period of time by private email, and I have not seen any reason to think it true. The offsite ‘evidence’ relating to this comes from a highly questionable source, and furthermore strikes me as completely unpersuasive. For all we know, these are faked screenshots from someone who has engaged in a campaign of harassment and bad behavior (on-wiki and off-wiki) that has been really astounding to witness.
“I have reviewed my email archives to look for similarities between the users. I have examined email headers. I have looked for textual similarities, time patterns, etc. I see nothing to lead me to a conclusion that Sami Harris and Mantanmoreland are the same user.
“For these reasons, I do not believe it to be true that Mantanmoreland == Samiharris. –Jimbo Wales (talk) 02:19, 15 February 2008 (UTC)”
n) All but Weiss’s most dogmatic defenders were silenced, however, when a law student from Chicago published a graph showing the dates and times of all Mantanmoreland’s Wikipedia edits. In it, one can clearly note two things: the rich posting patterns of Mantanmoreland and Samiharris never overlap (statistically, highly improbable); and more importantly, a perfect “phase shift” of precisely the right duration corresponding to a period in which Gary’s own Forbes work revealed him to be in India.
Conclusion
That Gary Weiss is a psychopath and a Scaramouch should be clear, but this is incidental. Here is the moral of the tale: the great dilemma that journalists face is that they want to be first with a story, but most do not have the nerve to publish a story that is too far ahead of the pack. I believe Gary Weiss went to such effort to hijack these Wikipedia articles because somewhere, someone understands that professional journalists, much as they deride Wikipedia, will never depart more than a few degrees from a Wikipedia consensus. Thus if one can hijack a page so that it simply repeats the accusations of a few co-opted journalists, then rare is the new journalist who will come along and escape that equilibrium. Thus, by hijacking the Wikipedia consensus one can corral much of the industry of modern professional journalism (this is all the more reason why those few journalists who departed from that consensus over the last year, however meekly or bravely, deserve admiration).
The deeper question, then, is this: how many social institutions have failed when a “journalist” is manipulating the discourse within both the news and social media, and all the mechanisms that should curtail him are short-circuited? Or, more to the point of DeepCapture, trying to drown out a scandal while simultaneously working to manipulate social media from within the corporation at the heart of that scandal?
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.059.601 von Bigtroll am 08.05.08 20:51:48GoodN8
wünscht cg.
wünscht cg.
www.garyweiss.blogspot.com
Heute ist der achte Tag von Richards Kur, die weitergeht.
Heute ist der achte Tag von Richards Kur, die weitergeht.
in memoriam Richard Alexander:
zwei Wochen
zwei Wochen
google:
jail-for-altomare
=================
Da erscheint ein Artikel der New York Times mit zahlreichen Kommentaren von Geschädigten ( Aktionäre, Mitarbeiter ).
jetzt nicht mehr amüsant, sondern eher nachdenklich stimmend, weshalb ein durchschaubarer Betrug so "gelingen" konnte.
jail-for-altomare
=================
Da erscheint ein Artikel der New York Times mit zahlreichen Kommentaren von Geschädigten ( Aktionäre, Mitarbeiter ).
jetzt nicht mehr amüsant, sondern eher nachdenklich stimmend, weshalb ein durchschaubarer Betrug so "gelingen" konnte.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.117.308 von alysant am 17.05.08 17:46:56Ich vermisse Deinen "Kommentar" dort drin ...
Quasi als einer der "Hauptgeschädigten" in Deutschland.
Stimmts oder hab ich recht ???
Quasi als einer der "Hauptgeschädigten" in Deutschland.
Stimmts oder hab ich recht ???
!
Dieser Beitrag wurde moderiert. Da hast Du die Denkweise der früheren Stasi übernommen. Ich warne seit Januar 2007.
Bei anderer Gelegenheit hast Du auch behauptet, ich wäre sog. basher, um "günstig" kaufen zu können.
Ich hoffe, die MODS sind wachsam und
achten darauf, was hier so ein "gewisser User"
von sich gibt ...
achten darauf, was hier so ein "gewisser User"
von sich gibt ...
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.126.797 von Csillagok am 19.05.08 17:58:23
Da sind wir derselben Meinung.
Wir sind hier Gott sei Dank nicht in der ehemals real existierenden Ostzone, "DäDäRä" genannt, und Sarah Wagenknecht, mißlungene Kopie von Rosa Luxemburg ohne Hüftschaden ist nicht im Zitterkomitee der SED.
Da sind wir derselben Meinung.
Wir sind hier Gott sei Dank nicht in der ehemals real existierenden Ostzone, "DäDäRä" genannt, und Sarah Wagenknecht, mißlungene Kopie von Rosa Luxemburg ohne Hüftschaden ist nicht im Zitterkomitee der SED.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.130.336 von alysant am 20.05.08 08:01:57Aber einen gewissen Sex-Appeal kann man ihr
nicht absprechen ...
nicht absprechen ...
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.132.336 von Csillagok am 20.05.08 12:37:55
meine Prognose hierzu:
Sie ist im Begriff, sich mit zunehmendem Alter zu einem Bißgurken zu entwickeln !
meine Prognose hierzu:
Sie ist im Begriff, sich mit zunehmendem Alter zu einem Bißgurken zu entwickeln !
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.136.970 von Csillagok am 20.05.08 20:32:53Das ist eine Bezeichnung aus dem reichhaltigen fränkischen Wortschatz für eine:
ältere oder alte Frau, mißmutig, aggressiv, der man besser aus dem Weg geht
so in die Richtung, laienhaft geschrieben
Sarah hat auch strenge Gesichtszüge und schmale verkniffene Lippen; das wird mit zunehmendem Alter schlimmer. Ich könnte sie mir gut als Domina vorstellen.
ältere oder alte Frau, mißmutig, aggressiv, der man besser aus dem Weg geht
so in die Richtung, laienhaft geschrieben
Sarah hat auch strenge Gesichtszüge und schmale verkniffene Lippen; das wird mit zunehmendem Alter schlimmer. Ich könnte sie mir gut als Domina vorstellen.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.141.890 von alysant am 21.05.08 13:12:36ist im übrigen nicht nur fränkisch, sondern eher süddeutsch:
Bißgurke = Bisgurn = Bißgurn
sh. bei google, erster Eintrag
===========================================
Richard vollendet übermorgen seine dritte Woche als Märtyrer in seinem heldenhaften Kampf ("Sein Kampf":laugh gegen das NSS und die korrupte SEC
Bißgurke = Bisgurn = Bißgurn
sh. bei google, erster Eintrag
===========================================
Richard vollendet übermorgen seine dritte Woche als Märtyrer in seinem heldenhaften Kampf ("Sein Kampf":laugh gegen das NSS und die korrupte SEC
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.142.771 von alysant am 21.05.08 14:52:55Du, da gab's mal einen, der war auch am Anfang seiner
"Karriere" paar Wochen (o. Monate) eingeknastet ...
"Karriere" paar Wochen (o. Monate) eingeknastet ...
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.141.890 von alysant am 21.05.08 13:12:36"Gegen" das Gesicht hat man doch zur Not
immer noch ein Handtuch oder einen Bierkasten
parat ...
Wobei ich sage :
Hässlich ist Sahra auf keinen Fall !
:O
immer noch ein Handtuch oder einen Bierkasten
parat ...
Wobei ich sage :
Hässlich ist Sahra auf keinen Fall !
:O
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.144.324 von Csillagok am 21.05.08 17:17:11
Das habe ich auch nicht behauptet, sondern halte sie für SM-Spiele durchaus geeignet.
Das habe ich auch nicht behauptet, sondern halte sie für SM-Spiele durchaus geeignet.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.755.986 von alysant am 13.12.07 16:34:13
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.150.654 von Altomare am 22.05.08 13:12:58Richard, bist Du schon wieder draußen oder hat man Dich nur an die BRD ausgeliefert ?
Im letzteren Fall kommst Du in die SBZ und wirst tgl. von Csi und Bigtroll besucht mit Diskussion über NSS bei Bier und Pemmen.
Im letzteren Fall kommst Du in die SBZ und wirst tgl. von Csi und Bigtroll besucht mit Diskussion über NSS bei Bier und Pemmen.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.144.277 von Csillagok am 21.05.08 17:13:40Hi lilla Gokel
wir vermissen dich bei Patriot
warst immer so lustig
wir vermissen dich bei Patriot
warst immer so lustig
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.153.243 von Dinino am 22.05.08 18:07:05Dann erwirke bitte
bei GIGAMOD eine Rücknahme
meiner PTSC-Thread-Sperre ...
:O
bei GIGAMOD eine Rücknahme
meiner PTSC-Thread-Sperre ...
:O
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.168.573 von Csillagok am 25.05.08 21:55:09Csi, das ist für mich - jetzt ernsthaft - neu:
Gibt es tatsächlich Teilsperren, beschränkt auf bestimmte threads ?
Gruß
Aly
Gibt es tatsächlich Teilsperren, beschränkt auf bestimmte threads ?
Gruß
Aly
Jetzt verfolgt mich Richard schon privat:
Gestern mußte ich unwillkürlich beim Film "Die nackte Kanone 33 1/3" (Kabel I) an ihn denken bei der Szenze mit Leslie Nielsen, als der - als verdeckter Ermittler - beim Duschen im Knast ein Stück Seife aufheben sollte auf Anweisung des Oberknackis, was er auch getan hat.
Er hatte - sicherheitshalber - eine stählerne Unterhose an !
Ich dachte dabei unwillkürlich an meine Empfehlung für Richard, sich blecherne Unterhosen für den Kuraufenthalt zuzulegen.
Gestern mußte ich unwillkürlich beim Film "Die nackte Kanone 33 1/3" (Kabel I) an ihn denken bei der Szenze mit Leslie Nielsen, als der - als verdeckter Ermittler - beim Duschen im Knast ein Stück Seife aufheben sollte auf Anweisung des Oberknackis, was er auch getan hat.
Er hatte - sicherheitshalber - eine stählerne Unterhose an !
Ich dachte dabei unwillkürlich an meine Empfehlung für Richard, sich blecherne Unterhosen für den Kuraufenthalt zuzulegen.
technische Änderung:
Da der Kuraufenthalt länger dauert, erfolgt die Zählung nunmehr monatlich statt wöchentlich.
Mai = 1 Monat
Juni = im zweiten Monat
Da der Kuraufenthalt länger dauert, erfolgt die Zählung nunmehr monatlich statt wöchentlich.
Mai = 1 Monat
Juni = im zweiten Monat
gestern kein Handel, bei pinksheets.com kommt unter usxp nichts mehr.
delisting schon erfolgt ?
delisting schon erfolgt ?
melde, daß nein:
erscheint wieder mit 0.000000 Brief
erscheint wieder mit 0.000000 Brief
Ob nicht mehr notiert oder noch notiert ???
Was macht den Unterschied ???
Ich kann da keinen erkennen.
Ob R.A. im Knast oder nicht,
auch da erkenne ich keinen Unterschied.
Zumindest nicht für die Anleger ...
Gruss cg.
Was macht den Unterschied ???
Ich kann da keinen erkennen.
Ob R.A. im Knast oder nicht,
auch da erkenne ich keinen Unterschied.
Zumindest nicht für die Anleger ...
Gruss cg.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.276.871 von Csillagok am 10.06.08 20:07:13im Prinzip ist hier alles wurscht, aber es geht um aktuelle Infos, denn, wie Du selber schreibst, ist doch Interesse da, was bedient werden sollte.
Aus sportlichem Ehrgeiz verfolge ich daher auch den scam DCBR und bin überzeugt, daß es hier eine Wiederholung gibt.
Aus sportlichem Ehrgeiz verfolge ich daher auch den scam DCBR und bin überzeugt, daß es hier eine Wiederholung gibt.
Richard ist im 3. Monat !
1. Antrag auf Entlassung abgelehnt.
2. offenbar letztes Vol. am 26.6.
3. delisting steht bevor.
2. offenbar letztes Vol. am 26.6.
3. delisting steht bevor.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.168.573 von Csillagok am 25.05.08 21:55:09nach einem flüchtigen Blick
verschliesst sich mir immerhin auf Anhieb
der tiefere Sinn für eine Teilsperre
ich war nämlich vor ein paar Monaten in Kölle und seitdem bevorzuge ich eigentlich die karnevalsfreie Zone
verschliesst sich mir immerhin auf Anhieb
der tiefere Sinn für eine Teilsperre
ich war nämlich vor ein paar Monaten in Kölle und seitdem bevorzuge ich eigentlich die karnevalsfreie Zone
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.421.337 von alysant am 02.07.08 14:50:30nächste Woche ist Richard am Beginn des 4. Monats.
Im Interesse der Seriosität bin ich am Eruieren, daß er auch noch einsitzt; leider wird nicht mehr über ihn geschrieben, da PR-mäßig tooooot.
Im Interesse der Seriosität bin ich am Eruieren, daß er auch noch einsitzt; leider wird nicht mehr über ihn geschrieben, da PR-mäßig tooooot.
Richard sitzt noch auf seinem Weg zum
Märtyrer des NSS
================
Märtyrer des NSS
================
Und wieder konnten 1.000000 Stücke billig eingesackt werden.
Danke dem Gönner der Nation,Danke,Danke
ofl
Danke dem Gönner der Nation,Danke,Danke
ofl
Hier können immer zu 0.0001 fiktive Stücke eingesackt werden, da der Schwachsinn seit Monaten mit 0.0001 angeboten wird; hin und wieder sackt immer noch einer ein zu US-$ -100,-- = 1 Mio.
0 . 0 0 0 1 B R I E F
mit getürkten Einzelabschlüssen zu 9 Mio.
Die Hoffnung, doch noch ein paar Dumme zu fangen, stirbt hier offenbar erst mit delisting.
mit getürkten Einzelabschlüssen zu 9 Mio.
Die Hoffnung, doch noch ein paar Dumme zu fangen, stirbt hier offenbar erst mit delisting.
DELISTING bis spätestens Ende Sept. 08 !!!
Nur meine persönliche Meinung, keine Kaufempfehlung !!!
Nur meine persönliche Meinung, keine Kaufempfehlung !!!
Da ich mit meinen Kursprognosen hier immer richtig lag, nur zeitlich daneben - dauerte immer länger (Zeuge: joelu :laugh - halte ich dagegen:
delisting in 2009 - irgendwann
delisting in 2009 - irgendwann
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.708.929 von alysant am 12.08.08 14:30:39wie gehabt:
Es werden nunmehr auch Einzelaktionen im Kurswert von
4 US-Cents
eingestreut.
Es werden nunmehr auch Einzelaktionen im Kurswert von
4 US-Cents
eingestreut.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.708.929 von alysant am 12.08.08 14:30:39gestern wieder Vol. normal:
312,-- Dollar
alles in bester Ordnung
312,-- Dollar
alles in bester Ordnung
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.762.218 von alysant am 19.08.08 12:51:10Du irrst Dich, gestern ist lt. maxblue z.B. KEIN einziges Stück
in USA gehandelt worden.
Heute "schon" 400.000 (Stück !!!!!!!!!!!)
in USA gehandelt worden.
Heute "schon" 400.000 (Stück !!!!!!!!!!!)
gestern waren es drei Blocks (Blockhandel ?:laugh mit ins. 500.000 Stück = US-$ -50,--
Nach der angeblichen Loslassung von Richard hätte ich mir von seiten der geschätzten Aktionäre mehr Optimismus gewünscht.
Nach der angeblichen Loslassung von Richard hätte ich mir von seiten der geschätzten Aktionäre mehr Optimismus gewünscht.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.796.794 von alysant am 21.08.08 15:55:47Da hast Du recht.
Scheint keine überzeugten Longies mehr zu geben .
Nur noch sog. "Zwangs-Longies", weil sie schon soooooooooo
tief in der USXP-Sch ... stecken, dass sich ein Verkauf nicht mehr lohnen würde und auch technisch gar nicht mehr geht, da es keine Käufer mehr gibt ...
Scheint keine überzeugten Longies mehr zu geben .
Nur noch sog. "Zwangs-Longies", weil sie schon soooooooooo
tief in der USXP-Sch ... stecken, dass sich ein Verkauf nicht mehr lohnen würde und auch technisch gar nicht mehr geht, da es keine Käufer mehr gibt ...
überzeugt und long = Dachschaden
Der Betrugswille ist ungebrochen
heute zum Anfang wieder Umsätze mit je 9 Mio.
dazwischen mal 56 Dollar zu 0.0008
Das wird dann als Ausbruch verkauft !
heute zum Anfang wieder Umsätze mit je 9 Mio.
dazwischen mal 56 Dollar zu 0.0008
Das wird dann als Ausbruch verkauft !
Vol. ca. 220,--US-Dollar:
Offenbar ist auch der Allerdümmste nicht mehr aufs Kreuz zu legen, da sämtliche schwachsinnigen Äußerungen von "paid bashers", NSS usw. erfolglos verpufft sind.
Offenbar ist auch der Allerdümmste nicht mehr aufs Kreuz zu legen, da sämtliche schwachsinnigen Äußerungen von "paid bashers", NSS usw. erfolglos verpufft sind.
War doch klar, dass das nur dummes Gerede von R.A. und Co. war ...
Den Niedergang von USXP hat NUR ER ALLEIN persönlich zu verantworten.
Das weiss mittlerweile JEDER weltweit, der sich etwas für USXP interessiert oder interessiert hat, aus welchen Gründen auch immer ...
Ich bleibe dabei :
DELISTING bis spätestens Ende Sept. 08 !
(meine Meinung)
Den Niedergang von USXP hat NUR ER ALLEIN persönlich zu verantworten.
Das weiss mittlerweile JEDER weltweit, der sich etwas für USXP interessiert oder interessiert hat, aus welchen Gründen auch immer ...
Ich bleibe dabei :
DELISTING bis spätestens Ende Sept. 08 !
(meine Meinung)
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.908.548 von alysant am 29.08.08 18:19:17identisch mit Endstand am Freitag
!
Dieser Beitrag wurde moderiert.
gestern nicht nur hoffnungslos sondern auch volumenslos.
könnte natürlich auch eine Aussetzung des Handels sein in Anbetracht der zu erwartenden Gerichtsentscheidungen = Bomben mega super hammer news
könnte natürlich auch eine Aussetzung des Handels sein in Anbetracht der zu erwartenden Gerichtsentscheidungen = Bomben mega super hammer news
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.059.173 von alysant am 11.09.08 09:49:00... könnte natürlich auch eine Aussetzung des Handels sein in Anbetracht der zu erwartenden Gerichtsentscheidungen = Bomben mega super hammer news ...
Durchaus möglich.
Durchaus möglich.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.060.941 von Csillagok am 11.09.08 12:45:40rein vorsorglich:
Das war S a t i r e !
Das war S a t i r e !
keine Aussetzung des Handels, hat sich als Ente entpuppt:
0 . 0 0 0 1 B R I E F (wie immer)
0 . 0 0 0 1 B R I E F (wie immer)
gibts das ding immer noch
Fakten im Hinblick auf das fortwährende Interesse an diesem Schwachsinn:
1. Knastaufenthalt von Richard von Anfang Mai bis 23.7.2008
2. Freilassung gegen Einfrierung der Vermögenswerte und Video-Überwachung der Immobilien.
3. Eigentumswohnung in Florida wird verwertet. Sie wurde in 11/2006 für 3.1 Mio. gekauft (finanziert aus NSSSS:laugh, belastet mit 2.8 Mio., somit jetzt über Verkehrswert.
4. SEC ist im Schriftsatz vom 18.7.08 der Meinung, daß Richard Geld gebunkert hat (aus Mitteln des Anlagebetrugs). Darauf deute die Gründung eines Unternehmens in New York. Es soll eine Schiffahrts-Gesellschaft in Miami gekauft werden, die Aktien sollen dann in einem neuen Betrugsmanöver verkauft werden.
5.. Fazit: Die Show würde von neuem losgehen, falls Richard dieses Mal nicht daran gehindert würde, wovon ich allerdings ausgehe.
1. Knastaufenthalt von Richard von Anfang Mai bis 23.7.2008
2. Freilassung gegen Einfrierung der Vermögenswerte und Video-Überwachung der Immobilien.
3. Eigentumswohnung in Florida wird verwertet. Sie wurde in 11/2006 für 3.1 Mio. gekauft (finanziert aus NSSSS:laugh, belastet mit 2.8 Mio., somit jetzt über Verkehrswert.
4. SEC ist im Schriftsatz vom 18.7.08 der Meinung, daß Richard Geld gebunkert hat (aus Mitteln des Anlagebetrugs). Darauf deute die Gründung eines Unternehmens in New York. Es soll eine Schiffahrts-Gesellschaft in Miami gekauft werden, die Aktien sollen dann in einem neuen Betrugsmanöver verkauft werden.
5.. Fazit: Die Show würde von neuem losgehen, falls Richard dieses Mal nicht daran gehindert würde, wovon ich allerdings ausgehe.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.062.496 von oski am 11.09.08 15:17:53 ja !
Aber es läuft die Veranstaltung (wie früher an Weihnachten im Fernsehen):
Wir warten aufs delisting !
Aber es läuft die Veranstaltung (wie früher an Weihnachten im Fernsehen):
Wir warten aufs delisting !
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.062.556 von alysant am 11.09.08 15:22:23Klasse ! Weiter so!
Darstellung der Fakten dieser Postings sind teilweise falsch oder falsch dargestellt.
Basher Alysant gibt sich besondere Mühe in den letzten Tagen Fakten und Daten zu verdrehen und falsch dazustellen.
Liegt es am kommenden Appeals Court Termin?
Werde diese Postings nachher korrigieren, richtigstellen und für unser gemeinsames Projekt mit dem Herrn Alysant kopieren und archivieren.
Darstellung der Fakten dieser Postings sind teilweise falsch oder falsch dargestellt.
Basher Alysant gibt sich besondere Mühe in den letzten Tagen Fakten und Daten zu verdrehen und falsch dazustellen.
Liegt es am kommenden Appeals Court Termin?
Werde diese Postings nachher korrigieren, richtigstellen und für unser gemeinsames Projekt mit dem Herrn Alysant kopieren und archivieren.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.061.292 von alysant am 11.09.08 13:26:09
Logo.
Logo.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.063.338 von Bigtroll am 11.09.08 16:23:55Also ich denke nicht, dass Alysants Posting (Fakten !!!)
von 15:22 Uhr gelogen ist.
von 15:22 Uhr gelogen ist.
sh. South Florida Journal - ausführlicher Zeitungsbericht über den
pathologischen Betrüger Richard, der Letzte
pathologischen Betrüger Richard, der Letzte
Was Richard hier geliefert hat, wäre Stoff für einen Film auf TV !
also:
Drehbuch-Autoren zum Appell
also:
Drehbuch-Autoren zum Appell
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.062.556 von alysant am 11.09.08 15:22:231. Knastaufenthalt von Richard von Anfang Mai bis 23.7.2008
Ohne einen Beweis zu haben wurde Richard in "Beugehaft" gesteckt. Er sollte zugeben, dass er schuldig ist und Geld versteckt. Beides ist falsch und das mußte der SEC Richter einsehen und ihn freilassen. Ein Nachspiel wird das für die SEC und den Richter haben.
2. Freilassung gegen Einfrierung der Vermögenswerte und Video-Überwachung der Immobilien.
FALSCH! Die Freilassung erfolgte aufgrund des Druckes der Öffentlichkeit auf den SEC Judge. Der konnte ohne Beweise, die nie vorlagen, Richard nicht länger illegal im Gefängnis halten. Die SEC stellte eine weitere Anfrage nach der Entlassung,die die Kontrolle über RAs Vermögenswerte und eine Videoauflistung beinhaltet.
3. Eigentumswohnung in Florida wird verwertet. Sie wurde in 11/2006 für 3.1 Mio. gekauft (finanziert aus NSSSS :laugh , belastet mit 2.8 Mio., somit jetzt über Verkehrswert.
Die Wohnung wurde natürlich nicht durch NSS finanziert. Da bring Basher Alysant wieder etwas durcheinaner. Belastet wurde die Wohnung teilweise auch, um Geld für usxp aus seinem Privatvermögen zu haben. Richard hat in der Zeit als CEO mehr Geld aus seiner privaten Tasche bezahlt als er jemals als Gehalt bekommen hat.
4. SEC ist im Schriftsatz vom 18.7.08 der Meinung, daß Richard Geld gebunkert hat (aus Mitteln des Anlagebetrugs). Darauf deute die Gründung eines Unternehmens in New York. Es soll eine Schiffahrts-Gesellschaft in Miami gekauft werden, die Aktien sollen dann in einem neuen Betrugsmanöver verkauft werden.
FALSCH! Das Unternehmen wurde nicht gegründet sondern gekauft. NICHT von Richard. Es ist nicht sein Geld. Die SEC hat ebenfalls keinen Beweis. Dein "Betrugsmanöver" - Satz ist pure Falschaussage und Verleumdung. Danke dafür. Macht sich gut auf der Liste.
Wie wirst du bezahlt Alysant? Auch für die anderen Boards in denen du "bashst"?
Jetzt mußt du nicht antworten ... aber bald!
Ohne einen Beweis zu haben wurde Richard in "Beugehaft" gesteckt. Er sollte zugeben, dass er schuldig ist und Geld versteckt. Beides ist falsch und das mußte der SEC Richter einsehen und ihn freilassen. Ein Nachspiel wird das für die SEC und den Richter haben.
2. Freilassung gegen Einfrierung der Vermögenswerte und Video-Überwachung der Immobilien.
FALSCH! Die Freilassung erfolgte aufgrund des Druckes der Öffentlichkeit auf den SEC Judge. Der konnte ohne Beweise, die nie vorlagen, Richard nicht länger illegal im Gefängnis halten. Die SEC stellte eine weitere Anfrage nach der Entlassung,die die Kontrolle über RAs Vermögenswerte und eine Videoauflistung beinhaltet.
3. Eigentumswohnung in Florida wird verwertet. Sie wurde in 11/2006 für 3.1 Mio. gekauft (finanziert aus NSSSS :laugh , belastet mit 2.8 Mio., somit jetzt über Verkehrswert.
Die Wohnung wurde natürlich nicht durch NSS finanziert. Da bring Basher Alysant wieder etwas durcheinaner. Belastet wurde die Wohnung teilweise auch, um Geld für usxp aus seinem Privatvermögen zu haben. Richard hat in der Zeit als CEO mehr Geld aus seiner privaten Tasche bezahlt als er jemals als Gehalt bekommen hat.
4. SEC ist im Schriftsatz vom 18.7.08 der Meinung, daß Richard Geld gebunkert hat (aus Mitteln des Anlagebetrugs). Darauf deute die Gründung eines Unternehmens in New York. Es soll eine Schiffahrts-Gesellschaft in Miami gekauft werden, die Aktien sollen dann in einem neuen Betrugsmanöver verkauft werden.
FALSCH! Das Unternehmen wurde nicht gegründet sondern gekauft. NICHT von Richard. Es ist nicht sein Geld. Die SEC hat ebenfalls keinen Beweis. Dein "Betrugsmanöver" - Satz ist pure Falschaussage und Verleumdung. Danke dafür. Macht sich gut auf der Liste.
Wie wirst du bezahlt Alysant? Auch für die anderen Boards in denen du "bashst"?
Jetzt mußt du nicht antworten ... aber bald!
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.089.324 von Bigtroll am 13.09.08 12:17:24Das nenne ich erstklassige Arbeit!
Danke für die Richtigstellungen!
Danke für die Richtigstellungen!
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.089.403 von Diviado am 13.09.08 12:40:08und noch weitere Kursgewinne
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.089.523 von alysant am 13.09.08 13:08:11Danke
technischer Hinweis:
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1) drücke bei Google "South Florida business Journal"
2) gebe unter search "Altomare" ein
3) lies die zahlreichen Artikel über denselben
4) viel Spaß beim Drücken
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1) drücke bei Google "South Florida business Journal"
2) gebe unter search "Altomare" ein
3) lies die zahlreichen Artikel über denselben
4) viel Spaß beim Drücken
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.089.592 von alysant am 13.09.08 13:23:16technischer Hinweis:
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1) www.deepcapture.com
2) www.thesanitycheck.com
3) CNBC’s Herb Greenberg, former BusinessWeek reporter Gary Weiss, Bethany McLean of Fortune Magazine, Carol Remond of Dow Jones, Joe Nocera of the New York Times – gehören alle zu der Gruppe Journalisten die, genau wir dein South Florida business Journal, bezahlt und geschmiert wurden und werden, dass zu schreiben was vorgegeben wird von Hedge Funds, Wallstreet criminals etc.!
SIEHE dazu deepcapture (Link oben) und Mark Mitchell (Artikel unten)
A Bad Day for Criminals and the Journalists Who Love Them
September 10th, 2008 by Mark Mitchell
The mainstream financial media says that the SEC should not crack down on criminal short sellers because short sellers are vital to the markets (and vital ghost-writers of a lot of what appears in the financial media). But much of the world has come to understand the enormity of the illegal short selling scandal, and there is a palpable feeling that the days are numbered for the miscreants who are turning our markets to mush.
Consider the events of just the last 24 hours.
Yesterday, we received word that Jonathan Curshen of Red Sea Management was arrested in New York. As described in “The Story of Deep Capture,” Curshen used to work for Pacific International, a Mafia-infested brokerage that has been favored by criminal naked short sellers and serves as a popular source to journalists, such as Dow Jones Reporter Carol Remond, who insist that illegal naked short selling isn’t a problem.
A Deep Capture team member, working undercover, once traveled to Costa Rica to meet Curshen. On multiple occasions, this creep admitted to our undercover vigilante that he participated in illegal naked short selling – and threatened to kill anyone who revealed this. Curshen also admitted laundering money for criminal short sellers, and described special debit cards that could not be traced to their users. These cards, Curshen said, were used to pay off government officials and journalists.
We are awaiting details of the charges against Curshen. They should be interesting.
Meanwhile, it was announced today that Deutsche Bank Securities has agreed to pay the largest fine ever levied by the New York Stock Exchange for short-selling violations. Only the Associated Press and Reuters reported this news. Reuters noted that Deutsche Bank completed sales of securities “without borrowing the securities or having reasonable grounds that they could be borrowed.” This is otherwise known as illegal naked short selling.
Strangely, however, Reuters suggested it wasn’t naked short selling at all. It wasn’t naked short selling,said Reuters, because the case involved “failures to locate the securities to cover short sales, not necessarily a failure to deliver the securities.”
How does one deliver securities that one has not located? Late in the day, Reuters put out a corrected story with a quote from a NYSE official who said, yes, “if you can’t locate the securities, it may lead to a fail to deliver” – and, yes, that is naked short selling, which is another way of saying that Deutsche Bank Securities sold massive amounts of phantom stock.
This is not at all surprising. For years, a devoted crew of bloggers have pegged Deutsche Bank as a central player in the naked short selling scandal. This was a big reason why the bloggers were called “conspiracy theorists” and “crazies,” and I suppose it would be pretty nutty of me to suggest that one of these days there’s going to be jail time for the criminal hedge funds that ordered Deutsche Bank to sell all that phantom stock in an effort to destroy public companies for profit.
But short sellers are vital to the markets, so let’s pretend not to notice the third interesting news item of the day, which is that Morgan Keegan & Co., a Tennessee-based brokerage, has fired stock analyst John Gwynn for allowing short-selling clients to see his research reports before they were made available to the public. As Deep Capture reporter Judd Bagley noted in our previous blog post, the reports in question all concerned a company called Fairfax Financial.
A small group of short-sellers are alleged to have participated in a scheme – dubbed the “Fairfax Project” – to drive down Fairfax’s stock price. We noted in “The Story of Deep Capture,” that one of the short selling hedge funds, an affiliate of Steve Cohen’s SAC Capital, went so far as to hire a thug named Spyro Contogouris to threaten Fairfax’s executives and their families. The thug (later jailed for ripping off a Greek shipping magnate) even wrote a letter to the church pastor of Fairfax’s CEO, accusing the CEO, who is an honest family man, of being a sado-masochist group-sex afficionado who had scammed the Catholic Church out of millions of dollars.
In a lawsuit filed in 2006, Fairfax claimed that this group of short sellers – Steve Cohen, David Rocker, Jim Chanos and Dan Loeb – conspired with Morgan Keegan to manufacture false, negative research about Fairfax. Morgan Keegan, no doubt to avoid liability, maintains that the research was accurate, but I’ve seen some of that research, and it can hardly be called “truth.” In any case, by firing Gwynn, Morgan Keegan makes it plenty clear that the short-sellers who attacked Fairfax were up to no good.
This same clique of short-sellers has attacked dozens of other companies, almost always resorting to similar tactics: false “independent” research (dictated by the short-sellers, who trade ahead of it); harassment of targeted executives by thugs and criminals; scurrilous rumor-mongering; so-called “bashers” who are paid by the shorts to flood the Internet with smears and distortions; corporate espionage; government investigations (which are instigated by the shorts, and drain corporate resources, but usually end in no action); and bogus class action lawsuits (usually filed by a corrupt law firm called Milberg Weiss until Milberg’s top partners went to jail for bribing plaintiffs).
A hugely disproportionate number of the companies that have been targeted by this clique of short-sellers have also been victimized by massive levels of phantom stock. Ultimately the SEC will have to say who was behind the illegal naked short selling, and so far it has not prosecuted anyone. However, it has launched an investigation into Dan Loeb, who aside from being named as a leader of the “Fairfax Project,” has featured prominently on Deep Capture for paying a minion to manage a stable of criminals and knaves to smear corporations and whitewash the naked short selling scandal.
The media has dutifully mimicked Loeb’s claim that the SEC is only investigating whether he has “communicated” with other hedge fund managers – and, golly, there can’t be anything wrong with sharing ideas with one’s colleagues. But we’ll wager that Loeb isn’t telling the whole truth, and the SEC is investigating the full range of tactics employed by his crew of short-selling scallywags.
It is par for the course that the media has been kind to Loeb. For years, his clique of short-sellers have been the primary sources of negative information for a small cast of influential, but dishonest journalists. The journalists’ stories were often false, but they — along with the phony financial research, the criminal bashers, the hired thugs, the bogus lawsuits, the dead-end government investigations, and the piles of phantom stock – helped pummel stock prices. When the stock prices fell, the journalists wrote more stories blaming the companies for their falling stock prices.
Not once have any of these journalists written about the shenanigans of their short-selling sources. Not once have the journalists suggested that the short-sellers’ tactics or phantom stock could have contributed to the falling stock prices that were the subjects of so many of their stories. Indeed, the most degenerate of these journalists — CNBC’s Herb Greenberg, former BusinessWeek reporter Gary Weiss, Bethany McLean of Fortune Magazine, Carol Remond of Dow Jones, Joe Nocera of the New York Times – have gone to lengths to convince the American public that short-sellers do not commit crimes.
Perhaps following the lead of their eminent colleagues, or perhaps because they simply don’t have time to clear away the smoke blowing from the hedge fund lobby, a number of other journalists continue to behave as if illegal naked short selling is not a problem. And today, with the emergence of yet more evidence to the contrary — with the criminals backed against the wall, and the spotlight creeping closer — there was from the complicit journalists nothing but silence.
====================
1) www.deepcapture.com
2) www.thesanitycheck.com
3) CNBC’s Herb Greenberg, former BusinessWeek reporter Gary Weiss, Bethany McLean of Fortune Magazine, Carol Remond of Dow Jones, Joe Nocera of the New York Times – gehören alle zu der Gruppe Journalisten die, genau wir dein South Florida business Journal, bezahlt und geschmiert wurden und werden, dass zu schreiben was vorgegeben wird von Hedge Funds, Wallstreet criminals etc.!
SIEHE dazu deepcapture (Link oben) und Mark Mitchell (Artikel unten)
A Bad Day for Criminals and the Journalists Who Love Them
September 10th, 2008 by Mark Mitchell
The mainstream financial media says that the SEC should not crack down on criminal short sellers because short sellers are vital to the markets (and vital ghost-writers of a lot of what appears in the financial media). But much of the world has come to understand the enormity of the illegal short selling scandal, and there is a palpable feeling that the days are numbered for the miscreants who are turning our markets to mush.
Consider the events of just the last 24 hours.
Yesterday, we received word that Jonathan Curshen of Red Sea Management was arrested in New York. As described in “The Story of Deep Capture,” Curshen used to work for Pacific International, a Mafia-infested brokerage that has been favored by criminal naked short sellers and serves as a popular source to journalists, such as Dow Jones Reporter Carol Remond, who insist that illegal naked short selling isn’t a problem.
A Deep Capture team member, working undercover, once traveled to Costa Rica to meet Curshen. On multiple occasions, this creep admitted to our undercover vigilante that he participated in illegal naked short selling – and threatened to kill anyone who revealed this. Curshen also admitted laundering money for criminal short sellers, and described special debit cards that could not be traced to their users. These cards, Curshen said, were used to pay off government officials and journalists.
We are awaiting details of the charges against Curshen. They should be interesting.
Meanwhile, it was announced today that Deutsche Bank Securities has agreed to pay the largest fine ever levied by the New York Stock Exchange for short-selling violations. Only the Associated Press and Reuters reported this news. Reuters noted that Deutsche Bank completed sales of securities “without borrowing the securities or having reasonable grounds that they could be borrowed.” This is otherwise known as illegal naked short selling.
Strangely, however, Reuters suggested it wasn’t naked short selling at all. It wasn’t naked short selling,said Reuters, because the case involved “failures to locate the securities to cover short sales, not necessarily a failure to deliver the securities.”
How does one deliver securities that one has not located? Late in the day, Reuters put out a corrected story with a quote from a NYSE official who said, yes, “if you can’t locate the securities, it may lead to a fail to deliver” – and, yes, that is naked short selling, which is another way of saying that Deutsche Bank Securities sold massive amounts of phantom stock.
This is not at all surprising. For years, a devoted crew of bloggers have pegged Deutsche Bank as a central player in the naked short selling scandal. This was a big reason why the bloggers were called “conspiracy theorists” and “crazies,” and I suppose it would be pretty nutty of me to suggest that one of these days there’s going to be jail time for the criminal hedge funds that ordered Deutsche Bank to sell all that phantom stock in an effort to destroy public companies for profit.
But short sellers are vital to the markets, so let’s pretend not to notice the third interesting news item of the day, which is that Morgan Keegan & Co., a Tennessee-based brokerage, has fired stock analyst John Gwynn for allowing short-selling clients to see his research reports before they were made available to the public. As Deep Capture reporter Judd Bagley noted in our previous blog post, the reports in question all concerned a company called Fairfax Financial.
A small group of short-sellers are alleged to have participated in a scheme – dubbed the “Fairfax Project” – to drive down Fairfax’s stock price. We noted in “The Story of Deep Capture,” that one of the short selling hedge funds, an affiliate of Steve Cohen’s SAC Capital, went so far as to hire a thug named Spyro Contogouris to threaten Fairfax’s executives and their families. The thug (later jailed for ripping off a Greek shipping magnate) even wrote a letter to the church pastor of Fairfax’s CEO, accusing the CEO, who is an honest family man, of being a sado-masochist group-sex afficionado who had scammed the Catholic Church out of millions of dollars.
In a lawsuit filed in 2006, Fairfax claimed that this group of short sellers – Steve Cohen, David Rocker, Jim Chanos and Dan Loeb – conspired with Morgan Keegan to manufacture false, negative research about Fairfax. Morgan Keegan, no doubt to avoid liability, maintains that the research was accurate, but I’ve seen some of that research, and it can hardly be called “truth.” In any case, by firing Gwynn, Morgan Keegan makes it plenty clear that the short-sellers who attacked Fairfax were up to no good.
This same clique of short-sellers has attacked dozens of other companies, almost always resorting to similar tactics: false “independent” research (dictated by the short-sellers, who trade ahead of it); harassment of targeted executives by thugs and criminals; scurrilous rumor-mongering; so-called “bashers” who are paid by the shorts to flood the Internet with smears and distortions; corporate espionage; government investigations (which are instigated by the shorts, and drain corporate resources, but usually end in no action); and bogus class action lawsuits (usually filed by a corrupt law firm called Milberg Weiss until Milberg’s top partners went to jail for bribing plaintiffs).
A hugely disproportionate number of the companies that have been targeted by this clique of short-sellers have also been victimized by massive levels of phantom stock. Ultimately the SEC will have to say who was behind the illegal naked short selling, and so far it has not prosecuted anyone. However, it has launched an investigation into Dan Loeb, who aside from being named as a leader of the “Fairfax Project,” has featured prominently on Deep Capture for paying a minion to manage a stable of criminals and knaves to smear corporations and whitewash the naked short selling scandal.
The media has dutifully mimicked Loeb’s claim that the SEC is only investigating whether he has “communicated” with other hedge fund managers – and, golly, there can’t be anything wrong with sharing ideas with one’s colleagues. But we’ll wager that Loeb isn’t telling the whole truth, and the SEC is investigating the full range of tactics employed by his crew of short-selling scallywags.
It is par for the course that the media has been kind to Loeb. For years, his clique of short-sellers have been the primary sources of negative information for a small cast of influential, but dishonest journalists. The journalists’ stories were often false, but they — along with the phony financial research, the criminal bashers, the hired thugs, the bogus lawsuits, the dead-end government investigations, and the piles of phantom stock – helped pummel stock prices. When the stock prices fell, the journalists wrote more stories blaming the companies for their falling stock prices.
Not once have any of these journalists written about the shenanigans of their short-selling sources. Not once have the journalists suggested that the short-sellers’ tactics or phantom stock could have contributed to the falling stock prices that were the subjects of so many of their stories. Indeed, the most degenerate of these journalists — CNBC’s Herb Greenberg, former BusinessWeek reporter Gary Weiss, Bethany McLean of Fortune Magazine, Carol Remond of Dow Jones, Joe Nocera of the New York Times – have gone to lengths to convince the American public that short-sellers do not commit crimes.
Perhaps following the lead of their eminent colleagues, or perhaps because they simply don’t have time to clear away the smoke blowing from the hedge fund lobby, a number of other journalists continue to behave as if illegal naked short selling is not a problem. And today, with the emergence of yet more evidence to the contrary — with the criminals backed against the wall, and the spotlight creeping closer — there was from the complicit journalists nothing but silence.
Danke, BT, gute Arbeit !
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.071.568 von alysant am 12.09.08 09:09:57hei alysant
richi ist doch der betrüger der mit casavant (CMKX)in las vegas die kohle verzockt hat
richi ist doch der betrüger der mit casavant (CMKX)in las vegas die kohle verzockt hat
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.103.049 von oski am 14.09.08 20:36:58weiß ich zwar nicht, nur eines ist sicher:
Richard ist als Betrüger geboren und wird als solcher den Löffel abgeben - entweder drinnen oder draußen
Richard ist als Betrüger geboren und wird als solcher den Löffel abgeben - entweder drinnen oder draußen
Aufgrund des nachhaltigen Interesses Nekrophiler hier gleich die Prognose für den 31.12.2008:
zwei Möglichkeiten
a) 0.0001 Brief
b) delisted
with regards
A.
zwei Möglichkeiten
a) 0.0001 Brief
b) delisted
with regards
A.
auch heute (wie stets):
0 . 0 0 0 1 B R I E F
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0 . 0 0 0 1 B R I E F
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Der Wertpapier-Bericht vom 17.10.2008 teilt mit:
Im Westen nichts Neues:
0 . 0 0 0 1 B R I E F
Umsatz: US-$ -110,--
Im Westen nichts Neues:
0 . 0 0 0 1 B R I E F
Umsatz: US-$ -110,--
3.11.:
0 . 0 0 0 1 B R I E F
"business as usual"
0 . 0 0 0 1 B R I E F
"business as usual"
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.811.421 von alysant am 03.11.08 15:30:03starker beitrag
Ist auch dringend erforderlich im Interesse der Psycho-Hygiene
Die Psychiater machen das ja auch unter der Bezeichnung "supervision", damit die Äußerungen der Gestörten nicht abfärben.
Die Psychiater machen das ja auch unter der Bezeichnung "supervision", damit die Äußerungen der Gestörten nicht abfärben.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.811.885 von alysant am 03.11.08 16:15:19liegt alles im sinne des betrachters-die frage wird somit aufgworfen -wer arzt wer patient-
Hier ist es aber glasklar
bald eine Woche kein Umsatz mehr - offenbar schon delisted
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.926.389 von alysant am 12.11.08 16:17:15alysant -und wieder ist kein delisting
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.926.389 von alysant am 12.11.08 16:17:15Beginn 2. Woche ohne Volumen ?
delistededededed ?
delistededededed ?
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.949.202 von alysant am 14.11.08 17:12:27wieder kein (getürktes) Volumen.
delisting ahead
delisting ahead
Umsatz oder kein Umsatz - das ist die alles bewegende Frage bei pink shit
Man hat zurselben Zeit 15.56 h einen Umatz von ca. 10.000,-- Dollar (8 Abschlüsse) konstruiert
bei unverändert
0 . 0 0 0 1 B R I E F
bei unverändert
0 . 0 0 0 1 B R I E F
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.989.167 von alysant am 18.11.08 12:34:50starker thread-wieder disqualifiziert-eigendisqualifikation scheint dein hobby zu sein
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.989.167 von alysant am 18.11.08 12:34:50wieviele jahre muss altomare hinter gitter?
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.989.275 von oski am 18.11.08 12:42:40Das erweist sich nach dem Strafprozeß.
Ich schätze mal 5 Jahre.
omO
Ich schätze mal 5 Jahre.
omO
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.989.359 von alysant am 18.11.08 12:49:01techn.Maßnahme
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.989.359 von alysant am 18.11.08 12:49:01
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 37.148.745 von oski am 11.05.09 21:38:27
Habe auch eine Suchmeldung bei yahoo.com aufgegeben, wo sich Richard momentan versteckt.
Der "Bastard" hat das verdammte Glück, daß sein Betrug vor dem Hintergrund des allgemeinen Fiaskos fast keinen mehr interessiert.
Habe auch eine Suchmeldung bei yahoo.com aufgegeben, wo sich Richard momentan versteckt.
Der "Bastard" hat das verdammte Glück, daß sein Betrug vor dem Hintergrund des allgemeinen Fiaskos fast keinen mehr interessiert.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 37.153.468 von alysant am 12.05.09 13:26:02Da ich auch in Stimmung bin, wird diese Suchmeldung jetzt zum Haupt-Board bei yahoo.com analog zu früher:
Bei dem message board (irgend eine Fluggesellschaft, die Richard übernehmen wollte - natürlich alles gewohnheitsmäßiger blanker Schwachsinn:laugh war ich die Nummer 1 mit dem Thema (aus Ende 2006):
"Bankruptcy in 2007"
Bei dem message board (irgend eine Fluggesellschaft, die Richard übernehmen wollte - natürlich alles gewohnheitsmäßiger blanker Schwachsinn:laugh war ich die Nummer 1 mit dem Thema (aus Ende 2006):
"Bankruptcy in 2007"
Auf Wunsch des Users reaktiviert.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 41.453.238 von MaatMod am 04.05.11 18:23:26Der Wunsch des users resultiert aus einer gewissen Neugierde, was den Verbleib von Richard betrifft.
Weiß jemand etwas dazu ?
Ich konnte nur eruieren, daß Richard mit seiner innigstgeliebten Gattin in Boca Rota (oder so ähnlich) in Florida residieren soll, dort vielleicht mit Steffi Graf Tennis spielt und offenbar vom Erlös seiner Betrügereien ganz gut leben kann.
Weiß jemand etwas dazu ?
Ich konnte nur eruieren, daß Richard mit seiner innigstgeliebten Gattin in Boca Rota (oder so ähnlich) in Florida residieren soll, dort vielleicht mit Steffi Graf Tennis spielt und offenbar vom Erlös seiner Betrügereien ganz gut leben kann.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 41.459.639 von alysant am 05.05.11 17:01:09
Steffi ist zu seriös und mit so einem Betrüger Tennis zu spielen.
Übrigens es heisst Boca Raton.
Wo ist eigentlich sein Handlanger hier in Europa der sich Big troll nennt,geblieben?
Übrigens es heisst Boca Raton.
Wo ist eigentlich sein Handlanger hier in Europa der sich Big troll nennt,geblieben?
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 41.461.835 von avorom am 05.05.11 22:49:16Wegen BigTroll müßten wir vermutlich Kontakt mit seinem vom zuständigen Amtsgericht bestellten Betreuer Kontakt aufnehmen. :
geht hier noch was ?
möchte meine Anteile verkaufen !
möchte meine Anteile verkaufen !
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 43.125.017 von Dinino am 05.05.12 17:30:03keiner will kaufen
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