Timeless. Wie geht´s weiter? - 500 Beiträge pro Seite

[JoshyJ]

Wie schätzt ihr Timeless ein?
War schon mal drin.
Von 0,70 bis 1,05.
Jetzt wieder einsteigen?

http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=IEQ734

[Kastor]

Timeless bei 0,28 wie weit gehts noch den Bach runter??
bin im Schnitt zu 0,82 Investiert soll ich jetzt verbilligen??
Oder ist bei Timeless der Offen aus?
Gute Zahlen, gute News und Timeless stürzt!
ich selber glaube schon das Timeless noch eine große Zukunft hat,
aber mein Glaube hilft Timeless auch nicht auf die Beine.

Kastor

[Kastor]

Ist es so schlimm? keiner mehr eine Meinung zu Timeless??

Kastor

[Kastor]

Hab grad auf der Timeless Homepage rumgeschnüffelt was da so alles
steht (und hört Real Player) liest sich eigentlich sehr gut!!
Hier mal ein Auszug

Kastor

TIMELESS SUCCESS


Timeless made a record in the development of Information Technology (IT) in Hong Kong by becoming the first company listed on GEM on 25 November 1999.

The Group generates profit of HK$68.90 million of a total revenue of HK$155 million in the year ended 31 March 2000, yielding a respectable profit margin of 44.4%

The Group has been providing Internet services to various portals in Hong Kong, China and the US. Following the early success of revamping the China Telecom, GZ portal, we have also helped the HK Trade Development Council launch their www.tdctrade.com in February successfully.

In the building of this important and sophisticated trade portal, we have taken into considerations for Hong Kong, China and the rest of the world. At the same time, traditional mode of trading versus the lightning speed of IT development have to be balanced and thus cause the most difficult technology problems. For example, smarter and better communication channels, news publishing, speedy identification of objectives, etc. Simultaneously, contingencies have to be worked out to diagnose and deal with inherent and ad-hoc challenges such as system scalability, traffic, stability, portability, multi-platform, security, hackers and multi-lingual compatibility. Timeless has addressed and resolved all these issues by choosing a strong, multi-folded foundation and platform for the portal right from the start.

We have also built the www.asia-steel.com and www.echinasteel.com series of B2B portals for asia-steel.com. They are providing steel exchange platform for the worldwide steel markets. Timeless designed the infrastructure and architecture, and use best-of-breed components to achieve the purpose.

Moreover, we have provided portal building services to the other 30+ customers from the United States, China and the rest of Asia.

INTERNET TECHNOLOGY PLATFORM

We adopt different technologies and approaches to come up solutions for our customer in different lines of business. The Timeless Internet Technology Platform is capable of supporting all kinds of portals, B2B, B2C. The projects undertook by Timeless best illustrate the high effectiveness of our R&D results.

Followings are the new projects of different nature that Timeless has been undertaking, apart from the above and those signed earlier this year.

B2B ICP -- Metal Trading Portal
B2B ISP -- Multimedia Portal
B2B ISP -- Domain Name Registration Portal
B2B ASP -- Translation Portal
B2B ASP -- Non-English Characters Handling Portal
B2B IBP -- Customer Relationship Management Portal
B2B IBP Portal
B2B Auction Portal
B2B e-trade Portal
- Advertising - Bags - Lifestyle
- Books - Hair Styling - Insurance

B2C ICP Portal
B2C ISP - Telecom Portal
B2C ASP - Pharmaceutical Portal
B2B2C Portal


B2B ICP -- Metal Trading Portal Back to Top



Timeless once again shows dominance in the Internet by building another high speed, high traffic, high scalable topology trading portal for our customer.

This is a metal commodities trading site offering a platform for trading of aluminium, copper, zinc, nickel, lead, tin, aluminium alloy and silver.

For sure, Timeless will demonstrate another success in deploying our Internet Technology Platform and the ready made components to this project.



B2B ISP -- Multimedia Portal
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Our customer provides the first broadband multimedia broadcasting pipeline in Greater China for the delivery of bandwidth demanding products and services. Their central broadband distribution network and multimedia broadcasting software provides a quick, secure and convenient distribution platform for content providers to aggregate multimedia content via existing broadband networks.

Timeless provides this customer with the Internet Technology Platform, the specific technologies and the customization services. This allows a complete development framework for the deployment of their broadcasting and distribution technologies. Timeless will help the customer achieve its goal of establishing the de facto standard for broadband broadcasting in Hong Kong.



B2B ISP -- Domain Name Registration Portal
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Registering your name.com is no longer a proprietary business of nic.com or register.com. There will be a new portal site to help you register as .com and .com.cn with one single click.

Timeless will act as the technology backbone supporting this world-class portal site series in China and Hong Kong. The multi-language capability of Timeless` Internet Technology Platform will also be utilized so as to enable communications among different parties in the world.

Further portal sites of such kind will be built around the world in Year 2000, including India, Malaysia, Latin America, etc.



B2B ASP -- Translation Portal
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When our customer planned to find the right party to expand their global reach through their newly built portal, the first and only translation Application Service Provider (ASP) site in the world, they come to Hong Kong to partner with Timeless.

The customer sought for partnership with Timeless to develop this portal site which will be launched in three months. Timeless will utilize the existing globalization components, and further develop the specific and advanced translation technologies for this pioneering project.



B2B ASP -- Non-English Characters Handling Portal
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Another portal project was awarded to Timeless in March. This demands Timeless to develop the technologies of handling non-English character code, to allow them to be independent of client environment or platform. This solution enables all devices that talk to the Internet including computer, set-top box, smart phone, Internet appliances.

Timeless helps the customer not only bring their technology to the Internet, the capability will also be expanded to other platform such as the wireless WAP mobile phone. Timeless will underlie portal architecture to enable a sound framework of web base publishing and application management systems. These are important factors to support the dynamic and flexible portal of this kind.



B2B IBP -- Customer Relationship Management Portal
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Timeless was awarded with this contract in March 2000 to jointly develop an Asian CRM system in five months.

Our customer is the only Internet company in Hong Kong offering CRM services to all kinds of dot.com companies in this region.

Timeless keeps on evolving the Internet software technologies to pioneer the design and the development of the world-class business portals and e-Commerce applications. This Timeless CRM system will become a de facto standard in Asia for the Customer Relationship Management methodology and practice. The version 1 will be launched in August this year with enhanced version evolved in the near future.



B2B IBP Portal
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A newly-established and fast-growing business debuts in China. It is the first and the only one focusing on call center and electric business solution.

Timeless adopts the most advanced homepage design technology to establish a characteristic and concise portal for the customer in a very short time.



B2B Auction Portal
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A unique auction site of its kind that they will bring in hot and special fads and items for auction. Due to the customer`s close relationship with celebrities and various international postal offices and collector organizations, they can bring to the auction site with items not found in the market or any other portal sites of the same kind.

In this project, Timeless helps the customer extend their technological capability of their Internet technical team based in the States. Timeless deploys the Internet Technology Platform to support most of their requirements apart from the customization to be done. High power auction engine, translation engine, WAP technologies will be incorporated. This will be one of the most scalable and sizable portal sites ever built in Hong Kong.



B2B e-trade Portal -- Advertising
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Timeless has signed a contract with an advertising agency in China who holds the largest outdoor advertising network in the mainland. This is a project at which Timeless will deploy its Internet platform and technologies. This portal will be built based on GIS (geographic information system), and MIS (management information system), so as to help the customer realize nationwide information system.



B2C e-trade Portal -- Bags
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This is another trading portal Timeless is building for a leading leather goods manufacturer specialized in bags design and manufacturing. This project is to be launched in May.

With Timeless` advanced Internet technology backing, shopping for bags on Internet is now a reality. Like other trading portal, this so demands the capabilities of handling high volume of transaction, stability, security and expandability. Certainly, Timeless is able to satisfy the customer`s needs as usual.



B2C e-trade Portal -- Lifestyle
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This is another type of e-trade portal that Timeless is building for the customer. This portal site is tailor-made for designers and customers who look for good-taste products. Timeless signed the contract on March 8 to build the portal, which is for providing information of fashion, beauty, live style, leisure, and subsequently a e-trade platform for buy-and-sell of unique design and products.

This is a portal to facilitate professional or causal buyers to source and purchase unique and specially designed products around the world. High volume of video and transactions will be applied in the following phases. Timeless will apply advanced Internet technologies to help build a unique and good performance platform.



B2C e-trade Portal -- Books
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Timeless will build a series of portal sites for this customer in China. The web sites provide contents and applications including B2C, B2B, personalization, and on-line membership. Based on Timeless` expertise and experience on Internet project implementation, Timeless is able to successfully meet the target to launch the first two sites in the shortest time.

Following the launching of these two sites in June, the others will be launched soon.



B2C e-trade Portal - Hair Styling
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Timeless is building a professional hairdressing portal. It can provide functions like member registration, and personalization. By applying the most advanced Internet technologies, the portal can also provide services like three dimension animation hair design, information classification, virtual community, web publishing system and user feedback.

This portal would definitely provide a new dimension to the mainlanders, and allow the customer to sell their products more effectively.



B2C e-trade Portal -- Insurance
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One of the largest nationwide insurance companies in China has awarded the portal contract to Timeless. This will be the most powerful portal in China as well as South-east Asia. It will be a function-rich, the most opened and advanced platform.

Timeless also provides large-scale e-mail solution for this portal. This solution introduces flexible distributed system structure. It supports several Internet protocols including SMTP, MIME, POP3 and DNS. It also supports simplified Chinese character, traditional Chinese character and English. This is the only e-mail service project with more than ten million users in China.



B2C ICP Portal
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Timeless` success in implementing portal site is so irresistible that our customer has awarded us another revamping project in China.

Timeless has entered into a contract to reconstruct a very popular web site in China, and is going to fulfill the task in a very tight schedule. Based on its in-depth Internet research results in the last four years, Timeless revamps the web site with most advanced Internet technologies for the customer. This is supported by professionals from both Hong Kong and China, and will make the web site to become first class, most popular in China, and the world.



B2C ISP - Telecom Portal
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A web site in Guangdong will be built by Timeless to enable the customer to transfer part of its traditional business to the Internet. Timeless has developed new on-line businesses and functions for the portal, such as mobile briefs, key customer service, telecommunication news, friendship linkage, number choices & card purchases, telephone fees inquiry, mobile fees inquiry, etc.

The functions and capabilities of this portal are very different from the others. Nonetheless, with the use of Timeless` Internet Technology Platform, these can be developed and deployed very soon.



B2C ASP - Pharmaceutical Portal
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Timeless has entered a contract in Guangdong to build a pharmaceutical portal. It will become the biggest professional pharmaceutical portal in south China. Later on, the portal will provide applications including pharmaceutical B2B functionality.

This portal allows hospitals to exchange patient information so that when patient is transferred to another hospital, he/she can receive appropriate treatment without any delay. Furthermore, information of hospitals and Chinese medicine will also be provided.



B2B2C Portal
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An education portal is built by Timeless for the China government. The portal provides on-line education information and personalized education service systems through on-line membership. It also provides applications like school management system, school business management system, remote education system. Upon completion, it will become the biggest professional education portal in western China.

[MarkMobius]

Ist doch alles uralt.

In dem anderen Thread vom User "On-System", werden verschiedene Bewertungsmethoden gezeigt.

Dieses DCF Modell ist ein risikoreiches Modell, das Kapitalflussplanungen in den nächsten 7 Jahren indiziert.In Bankenkreisen sind Kapital- und Finanzierungsplanungen auf 3 Jahressicht normal.

Wahrscheinlich für die Hellseher.Wichtigste Kennzahlen sind mM nach.

EBITDA (Gewinn vor Steuern,Zinsen,Abschreibungen)




Genrell ist zu Timeless folgendes zu sagen:

Timeless ist keine Internetfirma
Timeless hat 3 Hauptaktionäre, die zusammen 45 % der Aktien halten.
Durchschnittlicher Einstand bei 0,39 HKD.
Timeless hat mit 450,000K HKD Emissionserlös rund 1/3 für Immobilien ausgegeben.Das bedeutet natürlich, dass man durch die INvestitionen kaum weitere Renditen erzielen kann.Die Immo kostet ca. 178,000K HKD.

Vergleicht man mal damit die INvestitionen in den Software Park Zhouhai, wird man ganz klar feststellen, dass hier Geld verbrannt wird. Die Investition beträgt noch nicht mal ein drittel der Immobilie.
Genau so enttäuschend sind die Quartalsergenisse ausgefallen.Umsatz ca. 38,000K und Gewinn 15,000K.

MM

[Kastor]

Danke für deine Info!
Aber glaubst du nicht auch das Timeless aus seinen Fehlern gelernt
hat und in naher Zukunft wieder nach Norden zieht,eventuell bei
den nächsten Zahlen oder zumindest Ende 2001???
Und natürlich vom Imobilien Image wegkommen!

Kastor

[MarkMobius]

Hallo Kastor,

es kommt wie gesagt auf die Fundamentaldaten an und die sehen laut der Quartalsergebnisse nicht sehr rosig aus.Stagnation bis leichter würde ich sagen.Vergessen wird glaube ich immer, dass der größte Umsatz durch 3 Einzelaufträge generiert wurde.Das jetzt hochzurechenen ist falsch.

Wenn du ähnilche Firmen in HK suchst.Guck dir mal iMerchants an.Die lassen sich nicht auf eine einmalige Geschichte ein, wiez Timeless.Sondern die Umsatzerlöse sind durch Kooperationen gesichert.

Generell würde ich bei diesen B2B Firmen unterscheiden inwiefern man durch den Bau des Portals auch mitverdient.

2 verschiedene Arten von Portalen gibts.Einmal ein POrtal was lediglich infos bereitstellt und Portale wo die Firma auch Online Geschäfte abschliesst und reeller Wareneinkauf stattfindet.Daran können die Portalhersteller mitprofitieren.

Und genau das, macht iMerchants interessant.Timeless fehlen diese Eigenschaften, weil man auf traditionelles Internetgeschäft setzt, aber auch nur teilweise, z.b. durch webhosting.

[lorica]

Habe auch noch paar im Depot,nur keine Sorge die nächste Ralley kommt!! Alle werden noch staunen :-))))) Gruß lorica

[Natriumglutamat]

@lorica

Tolle Prognose!! Die nächste Ralley kommt!! Wann? In 20 jahren von jetzt um die 30 Cent auf 40 Cent??? Immerhin um ein Drittel gesteigert in 20 Jahren. So lange Timeless nicht anfängt zu Expandieren, sprich mehr Aufträge besorgt, sondern sich schicke Immobilien zu legt, wird das wohl nichts mehr mit Timeless.
Jetzt nicht falsch verstehen. Ich habe auch noch Timeless Aktien und bin im Schnit zu 35 Cent rein aber so wie hier "Mißwirtschaft" betrieben wird, geht ja wohl auf keine Kuhhaut. Aber na ja, schaun wir mal!!
MfG
Ng

[schlaglicht]

heute immerhin: gem hat um ca. 5% abgegeben und timeless nur um ca. 3% ---> silberstreif am horizont?

wartend schlaglicht

[lorica]

@Ng "He" Es wird schon werden!! Der Markt sieht zur Zeit etwas mau aus,Nasdag Sturzflug!! Letzte Woche paar Punkte mit SHANGUI :-)))))) Gute Deals lo

[Markus10]

Wie sieht eigentlich das kgv von Timeless aus?