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      schrieb am 24.02.12 07:10:26
      Beitrag Nr. 4.646 ()
      Hatte mir schon Sorgen gemacht ... ;)

      Aktienstand alt - 7.457.460.450 / Aktienstand neu - 7.457.860.450

      http://www.hmdatalink.com/PDF/C00530/e00175(239).pdf
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      schrieb am 23.02.12 15:32:00
      Beitrag Nr. 4.645 ()
      Hallo Zwilla,

      was meinst gehts morgen wieder nach oben?
      Was zeigen deine Bollinger-Bänder an?

      Gruß Riesbroker
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      schrieb am 23.02.12 10:59:45
      Beitrag Nr. 4.644 ()
      Hallo,

      verstehe ich das richtig, das die ReGIERung garnicht möchte, das Geely und Volvo ein JV eingehen?

      But Beijing considers Volvo a foreign auto maker, even though it was acquired by Geely in 2010. China’s view meant Volvo had to tie up with a domestic manufacturer under government policy.


      Aber Beijing Volvo hält eine ausländische Auto Maker, obwohl es von Geely 2010 übernommen wurde. Chinas Sicht bedeutete, dass Volvo musste mit einem inländischen Hersteller unter Regierungspolitik binden.
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      schrieb am 23.02.12 08:14:21
      Beitrag Nr. 4.643 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 42.793.184 von Sangonr1 am 23.02.12 08:00:31Moin Sangonr1,

      "korrekt", so sehe ich das auch, der JV mit Volvo ist für Geely nur von Vorteil,
      umso schneller umso besser.

      Das bringt auch vielleicht für die SUV von Geely noch den richtigen Kick.;)

      Gruß
      hauswand :cool:
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      schrieb am 23.02.12 08:00:31
      Beitrag Nr. 4.642 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 42.793.110 von Fire72 am 23.02.12 07:47:03Vermutlich die Kapitalkosten.
      Man muß ein JV gründen, um Volvo in China ohne Probleme zu verkaufen, weil es aus Regierungssicht als "ausländisch" bewertet wird.
      Das verzögert andere Projekte und die Börse steigert den Aktienkurs nur, wenn statt Kosten Gewinn anfällt. Da nützt auch keine optimistische Phantasie. Das muß man dann aussitzen bis es soweit ist. Kann uns aber nicht kümmern. Hier kommt es sogar noch eher zu einem Technologietransfer und einer -fusion, weil das JV zusätzlich die enge Zusammenarbeit erzwingt.
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      schrieb am 23.02.12 07:47:03
      Beitrag Nr. 4.641 ()
      Moinsen Geelianer :),

      wusstet Ihr, das Geely auch in Sri Lanka fertigen lässt???? ;)...Warum wird in dem Artikel das JV von Geely/Volvo als "Problem" betrachtet :confused:...

      Published on February 23, 2012 by Tycho de Feyter

      Economic growth is slowing in China and Western markets are a tough sell, so Geely is turning to emerging markets and most recently to Egypt.

      Geely and an Egyptian car-assembly company said Wednesday they plan to start assembling Geely cars this year for sale across North Africa. The Chinese auto maker and Egypt’s GB Auto SAE plan to produce up to 30,000 cars annually in a few years and eventually hit 50,000 cars a year, a person close to Geely said.

      China’s economy, while still strong, is well off the 10% annual growth rate that marked recent years. Vehicle sales rose 2.5% last year after logging growth above 30% each of the previous two years. That has spurred China’s auto makers to shift excess production capacity toward exports. But skepticism over the quality of Chinese vehicles and stringent regulations have made the U.S. and Western Europe difficult markets to crack.

      The West was “way more difficult than we had ever imagined,” said Xing Wenlin, a Great Wall Motor Co. vice president.

      The Chinese auto makers’ export push is gaining momentum, however, in emerging markets such as Egypt, Ukraine and Indonesia.

      Chinese exports of cars and trucks reached a record 849,500 vehicles last year, up 50% from 2010, according to the China Association of Automobile Manufacturers. Such exports generally are expected to grow at a similar annual pace over the next few years. Most of the export vehicles are priced well below $15,000, with some selling for as low as $6,000.

      Chinese car makers likely will “look for any way possible to unload their built-up capacity,” leading to a more aggressive push overseas, said Michael Dunne of Hong Kong consulting firm Dunne & Co. Chinese auto makers also need exports because of growing competition at home from overseas auto makers, he said.

      Geely has small-scale plants in Russia, Ukraine, Indonesia, Sri Lanka and South Africa that assemble cars with kits of nearly completed vehicles imported from China. The Hangzhou-based company plans to add more such factories in the Mideast and South America, the person close to the company said.

      Geely and GB plan to sell two Geely models in Egypt in the second quarter before branching out in North Africa. The entry-level Panda and the midsize Emgrand 7 sedan initially will be sent to Egypt from China. GB is expected to start assembling Geely cars in Egypt from kits starting in the third quarter.

      Geely said it sold about 38,000 cars outside China last year, up 76% from 2010. Thanks in part to its push into northern Africa, the auto maker aims to increase overseas sales more than 50% this year. The company projects roughly a 10% increase in overall sales from 432,000 cars last year.

      Geely has said it hopes to sell one million cars annually outside China, roughly half the company’s total, by 2015.

      Those targets might be a “stretch,” according to Frank Zhao, the company’s technology and product chief. “Products, manufacturing, brands and sales networks…all those things have to be prepared, and that takes time,” he said. “But compared to four or five years ago, we have improved so much, and you can see that in our product.”

      Chery Automobile Co. and Great Wall also are prominent in China’s auto-export drive.

      “We need to go beyond the China market to survive,” said Great Wall’s Mr. Xing. Great Wall has ambitions in the U.S. and Western Europe but for now has its sights set on emerging markets such as Russia and South Africa. The company has set a 2015 target of selling 300,000 cars outside China, one-fourth of its overall target and three times the goal for this year.

      Geely hasn’t given up on established markets. The company plans to start selling a Chinese-produced midsize sedan in the U.K. through a British wholesaler by year-end.

      Beyond contending with slower growth and tougher competition in China, Geely has had other trouble at home. The company on Wednesday said it will establish a 50-50 joint venture with its Volvo unit and create a China-only brand with the Swedish unit. The move was response to regulatory obstacles over expanding the Swedish car brand in China.

      Geely said it had sought for its Volvo unit to build two factories in China and run them independently. The company has tried to give Volvo a large degree of autonomy, in part to preserve the brand’s cachet.

      But Beijing considers Volvo a foreign auto maker, even though it was acquired by Geely in 2010. China’s view meant Volvo had to tie up with a domestic manufacturer under government policy.

      Opening the Volvo factories quickly is critical to the unit’s strategy of investing up to $11 billion, with an aim toward doubling Volvo’s global sales to 800,000 vehicles by 2020. Volvo and Geely expect that slightly more than 400,000 of the vehicles will come from China. Volvo sold about 47,000 cars in the country last year, up 54% from 2010."" target="_blank" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">"Geely to assemble cars in Egypt
      Published on February 23, 2012 by Tycho de Feyter

      Economic growth is slowing in China and Western markets are a tough sell, so Geely is turning to emerging markets and most recently to Egypt.

      Geely and an Egyptian car-assembly company said Wednesday they plan to start assembling Geely cars this year for sale across North Africa. The Chinese auto maker and Egypt’s GB Auto SAE plan to produce up to 30,000 cars annually in a few years and eventually hit 50,000 cars a year, a person close to Geely said.

      China’s economy, while still strong, is well off the 10% annual growth rate that marked recent years. Vehicle sales rose 2.5% last year after logging growth above 30% each of the previous two years. That has spurred China’s auto makers to shift excess production capacity toward exports. But skepticism over the quality of Chinese vehicles and stringent regulations have made the U.S. and Western Europe difficult markets to crack.

      The West was “way more difficult than we had ever imagined,” said Xing Wenlin, a Great Wall Motor Co. vice president.

      The Chinese auto makers’ export push is gaining momentum, however, in emerging markets such as Egypt, Ukraine and Indonesia.

      Chinese exports of cars and trucks reached a record 849,500 vehicles last year, up 50% from 2010, according to the China Association of Automobile Manufacturers. Such exports generally are expected to grow at a similar annual pace over the next few years. Most of the export vehicles are priced well below $15,000, with some selling for as low as $6,000.

      Chinese car makers likely will “look for any way possible to unload their built-up capacity,” leading to a more aggressive push overseas, said Michael Dunne of Hong Kong consulting firm Dunne & Co. Chinese auto makers also need exports because of growing competition at home from overseas auto makers, he said.

      Geely has small-scale plants in Russia, Ukraine, Indonesia, Sri Lanka and South Africa that assemble cars with kits of nearly completed vehicles imported from China. The Hangzhou-based company plans to add more such factories in the Mideast and South America, the person close to the company said.

      Geely and GB plan to sell two Geely models in Egypt in the second quarter before branching out in North Africa. The entry-level Panda and the midsize Emgrand 7 sedan initially will be sent to Egypt from China. GB is expected to start assembling Geely cars in Egypt from kits starting in the third quarter.

      Geely said it sold about 38,000 cars outside China last year, up 76% from 2010. Thanks in part to its push into northern Africa, the auto maker aims to increase overseas sales more than 50% this year. The company projects roughly a 10% increase in overall sales from 432,000 cars last year.

      Geely has said it hopes to sell one million cars annually outside China, roughly half the company’s total, by 2015.

      Those targets might be a “stretch,” according to Frank Zhao, the company’s technology and product chief. “Products, manufacturing, brands and sales networks…all those things have to be prepared, and that takes time,” he said. “But compared to four or five years ago, we have improved so much, and you can see that in our product.”

      Chery Automobile Co. and Great Wall also are prominent in China’s auto-export drive.

      “We need to go beyond the China market to survive,” said Great Wall’s Mr. Xing. Great Wall has ambitions in the U.S. and Western Europe but for now has its sights set on emerging markets such as Russia and South Africa. The company has set a 2015 target of selling 300,000 cars outside China, one-fourth of its overall target and three times the goal for this year.

      Geely hasn’t given up on established markets. The company plans to start selling a Chinese-produced midsize sedan in the U.K. through a British wholesaler by year-end.

      Beyond contending with slower growth and tougher competition in China, Geely has had other trouble at home. The company on Wednesday said it will establish a 50-50 joint venture with its Volvo unit and create a China-only brand with the Swedish unit. The move was response to regulatory obstacles over expanding the Swedish car brand in China.

      Geely said it had sought for its Volvo unit to build two factories in China and run them independently. The company has tried to give Volvo a large degree of autonomy, in part to preserve the brand’s cachet.

      But Beijing considers Volvo a foreign auto maker, even though it was acquired by Geely in 2010. China’s view meant Volvo had to tie up with a domestic manufacturer under government policy.

      Opening the Volvo factories quickly is critical to the unit’s strategy of investing up to $11 billion, with an aim toward doubling Volvo’s global sales to 800,000 vehicles by 2020. Volvo and Geely expect that slightly more than 400,000 of the vehicles will come from China. Volvo sold about 47,000 cars in the country last year, up 54% from 2010."


      http://www.carnewschina.com/2012/02/23/geely-to-assemble-car…
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      schrieb am 23.02.12 07:24:51
      Beitrag Nr. 4.640 ()
      Zitat von schlaechter: Hey
      Extra für dich Hauswand. :D

      http://www.handelsblatt.com/auto/nachrichten/neuwagen-trends….

      So Long


      Moin schlaechter,

      "danke" schlaechter, das war nicht nötig, das weiß ich schon lange.
      Li hat "fast" alles richtig gemacht, nur den Trend hat er verpennt.

      Gruß
      hauswand :cool:
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      schrieb am 23.02.12 04:58:52
      Beitrag Nr. 4.639 ()
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      schrieb am 23.02.12 04:55:29
      Beitrag Nr. 4.638 ()
      Grins grins grins grins grins grins grins grins grins grins grins grins grinsgrins grins grins grins grins grins grins grins grins grins grins

      Ich sage nur Anal(lysten)

      Wir erhöhen unser Kursziel auf HK $ 3,8, das entspricht 2012 und 12,3-mal PE, mit aktuellen Preisen um 15,5 Prozent Anstieg im Raum verglichen.

      http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=zh-CN&tl=de&js=n&pre…

      100% Unterschied zum vorigen Posting

      Gruß joap
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      schrieb am 23.02.12 04:48:35
      Beitrag Nr. 4.637 ()
      Hier noch etwas ausführlicher. Hier steht allerdings etwas von Hongkonk-Dollar. Das wären dann knapp -40%

      BNP berichtete über GEELY AUTO (00175) unter Angabe ihrer Underweight Rating und Target 1,9 $ mit folgenden Angaben:

      Unsere Channel-Checks schlagen Preisnachlässe (5-10%) haben zu Geely Premium-Marken wie der Emgrand verbreiten und Inventar ist in der Nähe von zwei Monaten. Wir glauben, es wird hart für Geely, die Preise für die neuen Modelle im Jahr 2012 als Wettbewerb ins Leben gerufen zu halten hat bei der Low-End-Segment mit Mitte-Ende Produzenten Weg zur mittel-bis Low-End gestartet.

      Einführung neuer Modelle unter verschiedenen Marken ist Teil der Geely multl-Marken-Strategie, um die Exposition auf die Mitte-End-Segment zu erhöhen. Aber viele Mitte-End Hersteller lancieren billigeren Modellen, die eine Bedrohung für Geely darstellen könnten, da sie stärker Markenwert haben. unsere Sensitivitätsanalyse zeigt 1% ASP-Schnitt würde Geely Ergebnis um 2,4% zu reduzieren.

      Geely hat damit begonnen, ASP für Premium-Marken schneiden, ist der Volvo JV unwahrscheinlich, dass die listco profitieren, und Geely Mehrmarken-Strategie kann durch Peers angefochten werden. Unsere unverändert TP von HKD1.90 auf Sektor-Durchschnitt 2012E P / E von beruht . 7x Gute Chance: besser als erwarteten Umsatz über alle Modelle (t).

      http://www.aastocks.com/en/ltp/rtquote.aspx?symbol=00175
      Rechts vom Chart.

      Allerdings läst das den Kurs recht kalt. Denn heute ist allgemein ein roter Tag angesagt.

      Gruß joap
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