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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 49.623.623 von Fantomas96 am 22.04.15 23:50:01Rohstoffe+ Edelmetalle
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 49.623.356 von Osito2011 am 22.04.15 22:49:53
Da wäre ich mir nicht sicher. Die Minen sind extrem volatil. Was sich vierteln und fünfteln kann, kann sich auch vervierfachen und verfünffachen. Das wird allerdings nicht allen Minen gelingen, inbesondere denen nicht , die in der Schwächephase ihr equity massiv verwässern müssen und sich über Aktiendruckerei zu Niedrigkursen finanzieren.
Unterm Strich kann man sicher sagen, dass Minen ein extrem zyklisches, hochvolatiles und riskantes Investment sind und ihre langfristige Performance als Sektor grauenvoll schlecht ist, obwohl sich über bestimmte Zeiträume natürlich auch enorme Gewinne mit Minenaktien erzielen lassen.
Wer sich darauf einlässt, sollte wissen was ihn erwartet. Wer Sicherheit und Solidität sucht ist bei Goldminen sicher falsch. Wer spekulativ orientiert ist und antizyklisch handeln möchte , kann sich den Sektor schon mal anschauen, nachdem er so stark gefallen ist und extrem unbeliebt und untergewichtet ist.
Zitat von Osito2011: Die Minen werden Ihre alten Höchststände nie wieder sehen.....adieu schöne Kohle kann man nur sagen....
Da wäre ich mir nicht sicher. Die Minen sind extrem volatil. Was sich vierteln und fünfteln kann, kann sich auch vervierfachen und verfünffachen. Das wird allerdings nicht allen Minen gelingen, inbesondere denen nicht , die in der Schwächephase ihr equity massiv verwässern müssen und sich über Aktiendruckerei zu Niedrigkursen finanzieren.
Unterm Strich kann man sicher sagen, dass Minen ein extrem zyklisches, hochvolatiles und riskantes Investment sind und ihre langfristige Performance als Sektor grauenvoll schlecht ist, obwohl sich über bestimmte Zeiträume natürlich auch enorme Gewinne mit Minenaktien erzielen lassen.
Wer sich darauf einlässt, sollte wissen was ihn erwartet. Wer Sicherheit und Solidität sucht ist bei Goldminen sicher falsch. Wer spekulativ orientiert ist und antizyklisch handeln möchte , kann sich den Sektor schon mal anschauen, nachdem er so stark gefallen ist und extrem unbeliebt und untergewichtet ist.
Das ist mir zu pauschal und zu kurzfristig argumentiert.
Man konnte sehr wohl mit Goldminenaktien seit Dezember 2014 sehr gute Gewinne einfahren.
Und nur weil Gold heute runter geht, heißt das noch lange nicht, dass der Preis Ende 2015 nicht viel höher stehen kann.
Was ist denn Dein Lieblingssektor, Osito ?
Man konnte sehr wohl mit Goldminenaktien seit Dezember 2014 sehr gute Gewinne einfahren.
Und nur weil Gold heute runter geht, heißt das noch lange nicht, dass der Preis Ende 2015 nicht viel höher stehen kann.
Was ist denn Dein Lieblingssektor, Osito ?
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 49.597.235 von Fantomas96 am 19.04.15 13:10:05Die Weltlage ist definitiv übel; nur es interessiert kein schwein....und nach steigendem Goldpreis sieht es aber heute ganz und gar nicht aus...
man sollte sich als Goldminenaktienbesitzer darüber im klaren sein, dass man sich einfach " verzockt" hat.Die Minen werden Ihre alten Höchststände nie wieder sehen.....adieu schöne Kohle kann man nur sagen....
man sollte sich als Goldminenaktienbesitzer darüber im klaren sein, dass man sich einfach " verzockt" hat.Die Minen werden Ihre alten Höchststände nie wieder sehen.....adieu schöne Kohle kann man nur sagen....
Das ist doch ganz klar ein Druckfehler, da fehlt das Komma und die meinen $ 1,25!
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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 49.604.627 von meichel am 20.04.15 19:30:23Diesen Mensch kann wohl nicht für voll nehmen. Der ist nicht nur krank im Hirn sindern der liegt dazu noch im Koma, sodass er garnichts mehr mitbekommt was in der Welt der Minenbetrieb und der Edelmetalle passiert. 
Das ist meine Meinung hierzu.
Frage mich nur, watum meichel so etwas hier einstellt und das ohne jeglichen Kommentar hier einzupreisen.
Das ist meine Meinung hierzu.
Frage mich nur, watum meichel so etwas hier einstellt und das ohne jeglichen Kommentar hier einzupreisen.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 49.596.926 von Osito2011 am 19.04.15 11:31:45
Meine Ansichten hat Ross Beaty in einem Interview sehr gut beschrieben:
RB: First of all, I really encourage people to travel. I often go to the States and I will be in a room with investors and they will say, “How many people have been in China or India?” Two or three hands go up. How many people can name the five largest cities in China? There are all over 10 million people. By the way, they’re all bigger than the biggest US city. Almost nobody can do it.
So if you want to understand investing, if you really do – especially resource investing -- travel is important. Research is important. Talking to smart people is important, good advisers. It’s not terribly difficult business I think if you can form your own opinions from looking at these things that are going on in the world the way I did say by going to China in the early part of the last decade.
Having said that, today I don’t think ever in my career have I seen more weird things going on that can have unintended consequences that I really don’t know how to figure out.
So let’s just talk about a few. There are the exchange wars where currencies are fluctuating at warp speed. Japan’s currency devalues 50 percent each year. The euro is down against the dollar. The dollar is up 20 percent against the Canadian dollar in less than a year. These are huge changes in currencies. Those are causing winners and losers.
So in Japan, the Japanese yen is weaker than the renminbi now. Well, there’s a push for the Korean won and Taiwanese currency and Vietnamese currency to weaken -- to be trade on some kind of trade parity with Japan.
If you have those changes, all of a sudden you affect the carry trade where people are borrowing in dollars at low interest rates and investing in Japan or China. Well, there are trillions of dollars in that market. I don’t know where that’s going to end. There’s going to be winners and losers and be careful of the losers.
There are energy wars. Look at what happened to the oil price, the world’s most-traded commodity in two months. It’s down by 50 percent. There are winners and losers.
I don’t know how that’s going to shake out. There could be chaos. There’s already real chaos in those markets right now.
I could just keep going. There are the geopolitical wars that we all know about. Some are small today but they could blow up. You’ve got the religious wars. They’re just brushfires today but they could blow up.
There are the climate wars. There are all kinds of people who are trying to stop global carbon emissions. So the coal industry is suffering. You know, these are giant changes. Thermal coal that is used to make electricity has pretty much gone out of business. Again there are winners and there are losers.
A lot of investors are now starting to dis-invest from oil companies. The oil producers are stressed anyway. The deep ocean producers that aren’t making any money, the fracking producers that aren’t making a lot of money, the tar sands companies that aren’t making a lot of money today. This is just causing all kinds of stress.
There are growth wars. There are people who are like me who think growth is almost certainly going to moderate. It’s not going to be 3.5 percent a year globally for the next 10 years like it has been for the last 30 years, because we’ve hit limits to growth. We’ve hit all sorts of limits. Ecological limits, demographic limits, land availability limits, ground water, soil, all kinds of things that are stressing our ability to grow like we’ve grown in the last 30 or 40 years.
There are debt limits. We simply can’t borrow any more to juice growth like with the traditional model for the last 30 or 40 years.
Put all that together and it’s all happening now. You know what? There are a lot of weird things that I can’t really figure how it’s going to end. But quite frankly, my salvation here, my refuge, is in precious metals. It’s in gold and silver.
So I’m very bullish on gold right now. I’m particularly bullish watching what’s happening to the gold price relative to the US dollar. I’m bullish on silver because silver will follow gold. Silver has always traded with gold. Silver’s industrial side is very strong as well. So I’m quite encouraged by the fundamentals on the silver side. I’m also very much of the view that investors today should have a refuge from all these storms that are blowing up all over the place by having some significant amount of gold in their portfolios.
So I’m putting a lot in right now as an investor. I don’t buy the physical metal. I buy companies because even if I’m wrong, even if gold doesn’t go up, a well-run company will create wealth and that will be a successful outcome for me as an investor.
So with my investment money, I’m buying various gold companies, some public, some not so public. That’s how I see the world right now, as pretty crazy.
http://sprottglobal.com/thoughts/articles/ross-beaty-backing…
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Zitat von Osito2011: Warum ? Was sollte den Goldpreis treiben ?
Meine Ansichten hat Ross Beaty in einem Interview sehr gut beschrieben:
RB: First of all, I really encourage people to travel. I often go to the States and I will be in a room with investors and they will say, “How many people have been in China or India?” Two or three hands go up. How many people can name the five largest cities in China? There are all over 10 million people. By the way, they’re all bigger than the biggest US city. Almost nobody can do it.
So if you want to understand investing, if you really do – especially resource investing -- travel is important. Research is important. Talking to smart people is important, good advisers. It’s not terribly difficult business I think if you can form your own opinions from looking at these things that are going on in the world the way I did say by going to China in the early part of the last decade.
Having said that, today I don’t think ever in my career have I seen more weird things going on that can have unintended consequences that I really don’t know how to figure out.
So let’s just talk about a few. There are the exchange wars where currencies are fluctuating at warp speed. Japan’s currency devalues 50 percent each year. The euro is down against the dollar. The dollar is up 20 percent against the Canadian dollar in less than a year. These are huge changes in currencies. Those are causing winners and losers.
So in Japan, the Japanese yen is weaker than the renminbi now. Well, there’s a push for the Korean won and Taiwanese currency and Vietnamese currency to weaken -- to be trade on some kind of trade parity with Japan.
If you have those changes, all of a sudden you affect the carry trade where people are borrowing in dollars at low interest rates and investing in Japan or China. Well, there are trillions of dollars in that market. I don’t know where that’s going to end. There’s going to be winners and losers and be careful of the losers.
There are energy wars. Look at what happened to the oil price, the world’s most-traded commodity in two months. It’s down by 50 percent. There are winners and losers.
I don’t know how that’s going to shake out. There could be chaos. There’s already real chaos in those markets right now.
I could just keep going. There are the geopolitical wars that we all know about. Some are small today but they could blow up. You’ve got the religious wars. They’re just brushfires today but they could blow up.
There are the climate wars. There are all kinds of people who are trying to stop global carbon emissions. So the coal industry is suffering. You know, these are giant changes. Thermal coal that is used to make electricity has pretty much gone out of business. Again there are winners and there are losers.
A lot of investors are now starting to dis-invest from oil companies. The oil producers are stressed anyway. The deep ocean producers that aren’t making any money, the fracking producers that aren’t making a lot of money, the tar sands companies that aren’t making a lot of money today. This is just causing all kinds of stress.
There are growth wars. There are people who are like me who think growth is almost certainly going to moderate. It’s not going to be 3.5 percent a year globally for the next 10 years like it has been for the last 30 years, because we’ve hit limits to growth. We’ve hit all sorts of limits. Ecological limits, demographic limits, land availability limits, ground water, soil, all kinds of things that are stressing our ability to grow like we’ve grown in the last 30 or 40 years.
There are debt limits. We simply can’t borrow any more to juice growth like with the traditional model for the last 30 or 40 years.
Put all that together and it’s all happening now. You know what? There are a lot of weird things that I can’t really figure how it’s going to end. But quite frankly, my salvation here, my refuge, is in precious metals. It’s in gold and silver.
So I’m very bullish on gold right now. I’m particularly bullish watching what’s happening to the gold price relative to the US dollar. I’m bullish on silver because silver will follow gold. Silver has always traded with gold. Silver’s industrial side is very strong as well. So I’m quite encouraged by the fundamentals on the silver side. I’m also very much of the view that investors today should have a refuge from all these storms that are blowing up all over the place by having some significant amount of gold in their portfolios.
So I’m putting a lot in right now as an investor. I don’t buy the physical metal. I buy companies because even if I’m wrong, even if gold doesn’t go up, a well-run company will create wealth and that will be a successful outcome for me as an investor.
So with my investment money, I’m buying various gold companies, some public, some not so public. That’s how I see the world right now, as pretty crazy.
http://sprottglobal.com/thoughts/articles/ross-beaty-backing…
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 49.596.596 von Fantomas96 am 19.04.15 10:02:27
Und der liegt über 2000 $.
Die Zeit wird es uns zeigen.
Ich denke ebenso wie du, das wir in den nächsten Monaten oder vielleicht doch erst in einigen Jahren einen weiteren Höchstkurs sehen werden. Und der liegt über 2000 $.
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