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      schrieb am 14.01.18 18:32:15
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 56.711.335 von MisterMarket72 am 14.01.18 12:59:48Danke für deine Rechnung! Wenn die Erfolge sich jetzt langsam einstellen halte ich das nicht für so unrealistisch :)
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      schrieb am 14.01.18 12:59:48
      Beitrag Nr. 189 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 56.710.732 von hoffmann69 am 14.01.18 11:13:15Hallo,

      anbei meine Projektion für die nächsten Jahre. Wenn man sich die letzten Bilanzen anschaut, braucht man schon viel Gottvertrauen. Aber die Referenzanlagen stehen, und die schottische Regierung scheint mir Rechnungen bezahlen zu können...

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      schrieb am 14.01.18 11:13:15
      Beitrag Nr. 188 ()
      Hallo Ihr lieben,

      mich würde mal interessieren mit welchem Umsatz und welchen Gewinnen Ihr in 2018 rechnet ?

      Bzw. welches Umsatz- und Ertragswachstum für die nächsten Jahre.....

      Wenn nur die Hälfte von dem stimmt was ich bislang so gelesen habe, sollte 1 Euro nur eine Zwischenstation sein..


      Ich freue mich auf eure Meinungen, da ich selber immer noch etwas skeptisch bin.


      Gruß

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      schrieb am 13.01.18 00:46:21
      Beitrag Nr. 187 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 56.699.729 von Kleiner Chef am 12.01.18 16:38:54
      Zitat von Kleiner Chef: Nachdem man in den USA im Q4 die notwendigen
      Zertifizierungen erhalten, wird gerade das größte
      Referenzprojekt für Sharc erstellt. Die Smith-Group,
      eines der bedeutendsten Archtekturbüros in den USA
      plant das dreistellige Mill.-Projekt incl. der Sharc
      Technologie.

      Wer ist das angesprochene Architekturbüro SmithGroupJJR?

      SmithGroupJJR is an American architectural, engineering and planning firm. Established in Detroit in 1853 by architect Sheldon Smith, along with Luckett and Farley, SmithGroupJJR is the longest continually operating architecture and engineering firm in the United States that is not a wholly owned subsidiary.[1] The firm's name was changed to Field, Hinchman & Smith in 1903, and it was renamed Smith, Hinchman & Grylls in 1907.[2] In 2000, the firm changed its name to SmithGroup. In 2011, the firm incorporated its sister firm, JJR, into its current name. As of 2016, it ranks among the top 15 Architecture firms according to Architect Magazine, the official magazine of AIA[3] and also ranked in the 6th Largest Healthcare architecture firm in the U.S.[4] The firm is composed of client industry-focused practices serving Campus, Cultural, Healthcare, Higher Education, Science & Technology, Urban Design, Waterfront and Workplace markets. The firm has offices in eleven cities: Ann Arbor, Chicago, Dallas, Detroit, Los Angeles, Madison, Phoenix, San Diego, San Francisco, Shanghai, and Washington, D.C.

      https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd…


      Hier der erste Teil von drei Projektberichten:

      Putting Wastewater to Work: America’s Next Great Energy Source
      Part one in a three-part series

      Lexicographers trace the old saying “waste not, want not” back to late 18th century England. It took us engineers a couple of centuries to catch on, but finally we’re embracing a very literal interpretation of that adage to tap into an abundant, secure and economical source of renewable energy for the next generation of green buildings. Even better, this energy is easily accessible, for it already flows through pipes right beneath our feet: wastewater.

      Take a second to get past the yuck factor and then consider: As much as 40 to 50% of a building’s energy literally goes down the drain every day. When the water we heat for cooking, cleaning, bathing and washing our clothes, among other uses, enters a sewer system, it helps to heat the wastewater flowing through that system to an average temperature of 60-70 degrees F, thereby creating a stable, flowing geothermal source of energy that until now—in the U.S at least—we’ve been, well, wasting.

      But what if we could recover some of that wasted energy, recycling it back into our buildings for heating in the winter and cooling in the summer? Well, we can and in 2018, we will be doing it in our nation’s capital at the DC Water’s new state-of-the-green-art headquarters on the banks of the Anacostia River in southeast Washington, DC.

      SmithGroupJJR’s involvement in this project started with a design competition launched in 2014, when DC Water issued a Design-Build Request for Qualifications for a new headquarters building to relocate its administrative facilities from its overcrowded Blue Plains waste treatment facility.

      DC Water was looking for their new headquarters to be, “DC Water’s most sustainable construction project ever and provide a visible connection to the community that DC Water serves.” To achieve this goal they challenged the design teams to “achieve the highest level of sustainability… including attainment of a LEED Platinum certification in furtherance of DC Water’s strategic goals and commitment to protecting the environment.”

      From a field of three finalists, the Skanska + SmithGroupJJR Design-Build team was selected to design and construct the new 150,000 sq. ft. headquarters. To meet DC Water’s aggressive sustainability goals, our team knew we had to look not only at the most advanced technologies available in the US, but also at innovative technologies that were best in class around the world. We wanted, in short, to push the “platinum” envelope.
      The Challenge—and Our Response

      A major challenge at the outset was a requirement that the new office structure be built on top of the existing O Street Pumping Station and adjacent to the Historic Pumping Station – two facilities that receive and pump 45 million gallons of wastewater a day from the nation’s capital to the Blue Plains wastewater treatment plant. Obviously, shutting the pumping stations down was not an option. Overcoming this challenge required us to approach the problem not as an obstacle but an opportunity. Could we find a way to incorporate a historic, century-old infrastructure into the design as an asset to help leverage 21st century energy and water efficiency goals?

      We found the answer by looking to the Old Country—Europe, which has been ahead of our curve in pioneering and deploying technologies to capture and re-use expended energy. This is technology that has been tested and proven across much of Europe, parts of Asia and, more recently, in Canada. However, due to the burdens of our regulatory system, it only recently received approval for use in the U.S. But it is comparatively simple and cost-effective technology whose time has come.

      When we first briefed DC Water on the technology to turn wastewater into a renewable source of energy they immediately got it. Committed to sustainability, they were ready to consider new ideas and were excited about the possibilities – the kind of client that engineers like me dream of having.

      Initial research by the Skanska + SmithGroupJJR team soon indicated that there were two types of technology in use around the world to do this: in-line systems with underground energy exchange piping systems, and off-line systems utilizing pumped wastewater and above ground heat exchangers.

      The process is similar in both cases. Raw wastewater passes through a separator, which removes solid waste and sends it back to the sewer. The liquid waste then passes through a heat exchanger, which extracts its thermal energy to heat a separate stream of clean fluid. The heat-depleted wastewater returns to the sewer, while a heat pump distributes the clean fluid throughout a building in much the same way as a conventional boiler and radiator system works.

      The difference is that in-line systems install exchangers on the invert side of the sewer pipes themselves, which requires pipes with a larger diameter than those found in most existing and older municipal sewer systems. In those systems – with Washington, DC being a case in point—a building’s wastewater is first collected in a well or pit before being pumped through a conventional heat exchanger equipped with a filtering system to separate solid and liquid wastes.

      The sewer piping infrastructure already existing on site for the new DC Water headquarters could not be cost-effectively replaced or retrofitted to accommodate an in-line system. However, there already was a large wet well at the O Street Pump Station that could be incorporated into an off-line system. From that point, we focused our research on finding the best international manufacturers of off-line wastewater energy exchange systems.

      International Wastewater Systems (IWS) was chosen for their significant commercial installations in North America, as well as ability to address local maintenance and repair services from the Washington, DC area. An added bonus: after final life cycle cost analysis, IWS’s system, called SHARC, has the highest energy efficiency, lowest yearly maintenance costs and lowest first costs of all manufacturers considered.

      The next post in this series will look at the life cycle cost rationale for wastewater energy exchange systems, exploring energy cost savings, operational cost differences and how these all build the business case for tapping into the stream of energy that right now flows unnoticed and unappreciated right beneath our feet.

      https://twitter.com/hashtag/wastewater?src=hash


      Danke für deinen Beitrag!

      So langsam zeigen sich kommerzielle Erfolge, das freut mich.

      In diesem Artikel ist der Sachverhalt auch noch einmal schön beschrieben: https://www.bdcnetwork.com/blog/putting-wastewater-work-amer…

      The sewer piping infrastructure already existing on site for the new DC Water headquarters could not be cost-effectively replaced or retrofitted to accommodate an in-line system. However, there already was a large wet well at the O Street Pump Station that could be incorporated into an off-line system. From that point, we focused our research on finding the best international manufacturers of off-line wastewater energy exchange systems.

      International Wastewater Systems (IWS) was chosen for their significant commercial installations in North America, as well as ability to address local maintenance and repair services from the Washington, DC area. An added bonus: after final life cycle cost analysis, IWS’s system, called SHARC, has the highest energy efficiency, lowest yearly maintenance costs and lowest first costs of all manufacturers considered.

      The next post in this series will look at the life cycle cost rationale for wastewater energy exchange systems, exploring energy cost savings, operational cost differences and how these all build the business case for tapping into the stream of energy that right now flows unnoticed and unappreciated right beneath our feet.


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      schrieb am 12.01.18 20:59:42
      Beitrag Nr. 186 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 56.699.729 von Kleiner Chef am 12.01.18 16:38:54
      Herrlich ....
      ... so langsam "beißt" der SHARC.

      Sehr guter Artikel, welcher auch das Ganze Potential aufzeigt.

      Freu mich schon auf den Vollzug und die weiteren News und Updates zu weiteren Projekten in der Pipeline.

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      schrieb am 12.01.18 16:38:54
      Beitrag Nr. 185 ()
      Sharc: Projektbericht aus den USA von einem führenden Architekturbüro!
      Nachdem man in den USA im Q4 die notwendigen
      Zertifizierungen erhalten, wird gerade das größte
      Referenzprojekt für Sharc erstellt. Die Smith-Group,
      eines der bedeutendsten Archtekturbüros in den USA
      plant das dreistellige Mill.-Projekt incl. der Sharc
      Technologie.

      Wer ist das angesprochene Architekturbüro SmithGroupJJR?

      SmithGroupJJR is an American architectural, engineering and planning firm. Established in Detroit in 1853 by architect Sheldon Smith, along with Luckett and Farley, SmithGroupJJR is the longest continually operating architecture and engineering firm in the United States that is not a wholly owned subsidiary.[1] The firm's name was changed to Field, Hinchman & Smith in 1903, and it was renamed Smith, Hinchman & Grylls in 1907.[2] In 2000, the firm changed its name to SmithGroup. In 2011, the firm incorporated its sister firm, JJR, into its current name. As of 2016, it ranks among the top 15 Architecture firms according to Architect Magazine, the official magazine of AIA[3] and also ranked in the 6th Largest Healthcare architecture firm in the U.S.[4] The firm is composed of client industry-focused practices serving Campus, Cultural, Healthcare, Higher Education, Science & Technology, Urban Design, Waterfront and Workplace markets. The firm has offices in eleven cities: Ann Arbor, Chicago, Dallas, Detroit, Los Angeles, Madison, Phoenix, San Diego, San Francisco, Shanghai, and Washington, D.C.

      https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd…


      Hier der erste Teil von drei Projektberichten:

      Putting Wastewater to Work: America’s Next Great Energy Source
      Part one in a three-part series

      Lexicographers trace the old saying “waste not, want not” back to late 18th century England. It took us engineers a couple of centuries to catch on, but finally we’re embracing a very literal interpretation of that adage to tap into an abundant, secure and economical source of renewable energy for the next generation of green buildings. Even better, this energy is easily accessible, for it already flows through pipes right beneath our feet: wastewater.

      Take a second to get past the yuck factor and then consider: As much as 40 to 50% of a building’s energy literally goes down the drain every day. When the water we heat for cooking, cleaning, bathing and washing our clothes, among other uses, enters a sewer system, it helps to heat the wastewater flowing through that system to an average temperature of 60-70 degrees F, thereby creating a stable, flowing geothermal source of energy that until now—in the U.S at least—we’ve been, well, wasting.

      But what if we could recover some of that wasted energy, recycling it back into our buildings for heating in the winter and cooling in the summer? Well, we can and in 2018, we will be doing it in our nation’s capital at the DC Water’s new state-of-the-green-art headquarters on the banks of the Anacostia River in southeast Washington, DC.

      SmithGroupJJR’s involvement in this project started with a design competition launched in 2014, when DC Water issued a Design-Build Request for Qualifications for a new headquarters building to relocate its administrative facilities from its overcrowded Blue Plains waste treatment facility.

      DC Water was looking for their new headquarters to be, “DC Water’s most sustainable construction project ever and provide a visible connection to the community that DC Water serves.” To achieve this goal they challenged the design teams to “achieve the highest level of sustainability… including attainment of a LEED Platinum certification in furtherance of DC Water’s strategic goals and commitment to protecting the environment.”

      From a field of three finalists, the Skanska + SmithGroupJJR Design-Build team was selected to design and construct the new 150,000 sq. ft. headquarters. To meet DC Water’s aggressive sustainability goals, our team knew we had to look not only at the most advanced technologies available in the US, but also at innovative technologies that were best in class around the world. We wanted, in short, to push the “platinum” envelope.
      The Challenge—and Our Response

      A major challenge at the outset was a requirement that the new office structure be built on top of the existing O Street Pumping Station and adjacent to the Historic Pumping Station – two facilities that receive and pump 45 million gallons of wastewater a day from the nation’s capital to the Blue Plains wastewater treatment plant. Obviously, shutting the pumping stations down was not an option. Overcoming this challenge required us to approach the problem not as an obstacle but an opportunity. Could we find a way to incorporate a historic, century-old infrastructure into the design as an asset to help leverage 21st century energy and water efficiency goals?

      We found the answer by looking to the Old Country—Europe, which has been ahead of our curve in pioneering and deploying technologies to capture and re-use expended energy. This is technology that has been tested and proven across much of Europe, parts of Asia and, more recently, in Canada. However, due to the burdens of our regulatory system, it only recently received approval for use in the U.S. But it is comparatively simple and cost-effective technology whose time has come.

      When we first briefed DC Water on the technology to turn wastewater into a renewable source of energy they immediately got it. Committed to sustainability, they were ready to consider new ideas and were excited about the possibilities – the kind of client that engineers like me dream of having.

      Initial research by the Skanska + SmithGroupJJR team soon indicated that there were two types of technology in use around the world to do this: in-line systems with underground energy exchange piping systems, and off-line systems utilizing pumped wastewater and above ground heat exchangers.

      The process is similar in both cases. Raw wastewater passes through a separator, which removes solid waste and sends it back to the sewer. The liquid waste then passes through a heat exchanger, which extracts its thermal energy to heat a separate stream of clean fluid. The heat-depleted wastewater returns to the sewer, while a heat pump distributes the clean fluid throughout a building in much the same way as a conventional boiler and radiator system works.

      The difference is that in-line systems install exchangers on the invert side of the sewer pipes themselves, which requires pipes with a larger diameter than those found in most existing and older municipal sewer systems. In those systems – with Washington, DC being a case in point—a building’s wastewater is first collected in a well or pit before being pumped through a conventional heat exchanger equipped with a filtering system to separate solid and liquid wastes.

      The sewer piping infrastructure already existing on site for the new DC Water headquarters could not be cost-effectively replaced or retrofitted to accommodate an in-line system. However, there already was a large wet well at the O Street Pump Station that could be incorporated into an off-line system. From that point, we focused our research on finding the best international manufacturers of off-line wastewater energy exchange systems.

      International Wastewater Systems (IWS) was chosen for their significant commercial installations in North America, as well as ability to address local maintenance and repair services from the Washington, DC area. An added bonus: after final life cycle cost analysis, IWS’s system, called SHARC, has the highest energy efficiency, lowest yearly maintenance costs and lowest first costs of all manufacturers considered.

      The next post in this series will look at the life cycle cost rationale for wastewater energy exchange systems, exploring energy cost savings, operational cost differences and how these all build the business case for tapping into the stream of energy that right now flows unnoticed and unappreciated right beneath our feet.

      https://twitter.com/hashtag/wastewater?src=hash
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      schrieb am 12.01.18 13:11:07
      Beitrag Nr. 184 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 56.683.421 von 04030 am 11.01.18 10:38:46Sehe ich auch so. Früher oder später werden die news kommen. Ich gehe auch davon aus, dass man von der Messe schon einige positive Nachrichten hören wird. Konkrete Projekte sollten ein starker Katalysator für den Kurs sein.

      Die aktuelle Bewertung ist lächerlich niedrig. Bei guten news sind locker 50-100% innerhalb weniger Tage drin.
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      schrieb am 11.01.18 10:38:46
      Beitrag Nr. 183 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 56.682.848 von Locodiablo am 11.01.18 09:55:16
      Referenzen --> Multiplikator-Effekt auf die Vertriebspartner
      Die ganzen größeren "Community"-Projekte sind langfristig der Grundstein für den Vertriebserfolg in den aktiven Märkten.

      Die Mühlen mahlen langsam - aber sie mahlen und die Gelder sind wie oben erwähnt sicher und inklusive der folgende und lukrativen Wartungsverträge.

      Im Rahmen der Messe dürften einige der aktuell in Planung befindlichen Projekte publik gemacht werden.

      Die Margen dürften wie bereits in einem meiner vorherigen Posts geschrieben über dem Durchschnitt der Maschinenbaubranche liegen.
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      schrieb am 11.01.18 09:55:16
      Beitrag Nr. 182 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 56.680.985 von MisterMarket72 am 11.01.18 05:15:27
      Zitat von MisterMarket72: Nachfolgend der Versuch, eine möglichst konkrete Timeline und Umsatzvorhersage aus den zugänglichen Unterlagen herauszulesen.

      Quelle: www.sharcenergy.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/MDA-English-Aug-28-2017.pdf

      "On May 10, 2017, the Company announced IWWS has been awarded grant support to facilitate the installation of SHARC wastewater heat recovery systems at five locations across Scotland totaling £9.8 million... The initial revenue from these sales will commence during the next quarter and should be completed within the next nine months."

      9,8 Mio GBP bzw. 11,1 Mio CAD an Umsatz, die man bis Anfang Februar 2018 in Aussicht gestellt hat. Mehr konkrete bzw. an eine Timeline geknüpfte Informationen habe ich bis dato nicht gefunden, wobei hier auch fraglich ist, in welchem Geschäftsjahr der Umsatz zu welchem Anteil anfällt.

      Was die Marge betrifft, bin ich mit Blick auf heimische und gewöhnliche Heizungsbauer ganz optimistisch. Die haben aus meiner Sicht alle sittenwidrige Margen und schlagen teilweise 150 % auf die Einkaufspreise der Heizungen drauf. Da Sharc die Anlagen auch noch selbst zusammenbaut, müsste man da ganz komfortabel kalkulieren können. Wenn ich das richtig verstanden habe, kann man sich eine solche Anlage auch quasi kostenfrei installieren lassen, verpflichtet sich dann aber dazu, die Energie knapp unter Marktpreis von Sharc abzukaufen. Hoffe, die Margen passen da auch. Die Wartungskosten wären dann inklusive. Bei den großen Anlagen muss übrigens quartalsweise und bei den kleinen Anlagen zweimal pro Jahr gewartet werden.


      Was man auch noch dazu sagen muss ist, dass Sharc derzeit vorwiegend größere Projekte mit Kommunen angeht, um sich einen Namen aufzubauen. Dort mahlen die Mühlen zwar leider etwas langsamer, d.h. die Verträge kommen erst nach längerer Zeit zustande, allerdings sind die Einnahmen danach sicher und garantiert. Ein großer Vorteil aus meiner Sicht!
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      schrieb am 11.01.18 05:15:27
      Beitrag Nr. 181 ()
      Nachfolgend der Versuch, eine möglichst konkrete Timeline und Umsatzvorhersage aus den zugänglichen Unterlagen herauszulesen.

      Quelle: www.sharcenergy.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/MDA-English-Aug-28-2017.pdf

      "On May 10, 2017, the Company announced IWWS has been awarded grant support to facilitate the installation of SHARC wastewater heat recovery systems at five locations across Scotland totaling £9.8 million... The initial revenue from these sales will commence during the next quarter and should be completed within the next nine months."

      9,8 Mio GBP bzw. 11,1 Mio CAD an Umsatz, die man bis Anfang Februar 2018 in Aussicht gestellt hat. Mehr konkrete bzw. an eine Timeline geknüpfte Informationen habe ich bis dato nicht gefunden, wobei hier auch fraglich ist, in welchem Geschäftsjahr der Umsatz zu welchem Anteil anfällt.

      Was die Marge betrifft, bin ich mit Blick auf heimische und gewöhnliche Heizungsbauer ganz optimistisch. Die haben aus meiner Sicht alle sittenwidrige Margen und schlagen teilweise 150 % auf die Einkaufspreise der Heizungen drauf. Da Sharc die Anlagen auch noch selbst zusammenbaut, müsste man da ganz komfortabel kalkulieren können. Wenn ich das richtig verstanden habe, kann man sich eine solche Anlage auch quasi kostenfrei installieren lassen, verpflichtet sich dann aber dazu, die Energie knapp unter Marktpreis von Sharc abzukaufen. Hoffe, die Margen passen da auch. Die Wartungskosten wären dann inklusive. Bei den großen Anlagen muss übrigens quartalsweise und bei den kleinen Anlagen zweimal pro Jahr gewartet werden.
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