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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 74.891.940 von faultcode am 30.11.23 21:46:00

https://twitter.com/Tesla/status/1730326461469331929

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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 74.891.955 von faultcode am 30.11.23 21:48:31

Last Updated: Nov. 30, 2023 at 3:54 p.m. ET
Tesla’s Cybertruck Gets a Price Tag. It Starts at $60,990.
https://www.marketwatch.com/articles/tesla-cybertuck-event-w…
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Tesla ‘s long-awaited electric truck is finally here and the base model costs $60,990.
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The base model Cybertruck won’t be available for a while. Tesla will make dual- and tri-motor options first. Those will cost more. Car companies typically produce higher-priced products first. It’s more revenue and profit for them.

The tri-motor version will likely start at just under $80,000 to qualify for the $7,500 government tax credit.

When the base model will be shipped should also come up. Investors will want some insight into the production ramp. Musk has said Tesla won’t be producing Cybertrucks at a “run-rate” of 250,000 a year until 2025. Investors are hoping he’s being conservative.

Wall Street expects about 1,500 Cybertrucks to be delivered in 2023 and about 78,000 in 2024. To put that in comparison, deliveries for all Tesla models are expected to be about 1.8 million units in 2023 and 2.2 million in 2024.

Among the buyers receiving Cybertrucks today was Alexis Ohanian, co-founder of social media site Reddit.
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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 74.891.940 von faultcode am 30.11.23 21:46:00

Tesla-MA's fahren die Kunden bzw. Kundinnen vom Hof

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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 74.891.886 von faultcode am 30.11.23 21:39:00

der "Porsche 911|2023-Drag-Test, 1/4 mile": der CT sei mit 911 schneller als ein 911

Übergaben durch EM:
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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 74.891.844 von faultcode am 30.11.23 21:32:27

der "Truck Pull Test" -- leider nicht live:

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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 74.891.712 von faultcode am 30.11.23 21:11:02

sehr kleines, handverlesenes Publikum und EM im Halb-Dunkeln

EM: "basically no corrosion" -- da haben wir es schon in der ersten, erwähnten Eigenschaft des CT's

"The glass is tough" -- jetzt nur noch "rock-proof", EM
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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 74.891.670 von faultcode am 30.11.23 21:04:48

ich benutze aktuell den Twitter Live stream -- nur Musik derzeit, aber immerhin: https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1ZkKzjaBdmLKv

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1 Stunde vor dem "Cybertruck Delivery Event" knallt Fred Lambert noch einen rein, eigentlich ganze 3 Issues: trailer + trailer suitable navigation + charging speed:

Fred Lambert | Nov 30 2023 - 10:16 am PT
Tesla’s charging network is not ready for Cybertruck
https://electrek.co/2023/11/30/tesla-charging-network-not-re…
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Tesla’s Supercharger stations are not well-designed for parking with a trailer.

In the vast majority of cases, Cybertruck owners towing a trailer will have to unhook before being able to park at a Supercharger stall to charge.

Tesla is clearly aware of the issue, and it is building new stations with a few “pull-through” stalls where you can charge with a trailer without blocking other stations.
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Hopefully, Tesla enables to search for Superchargers with those stalls in the navigation systems in order to make things easier, but you will still be lucky to find one that is convenient for your route until they become standard at most stations, which could take a few years.

The other problem is the charging speed.

We don’t know yet the size of the Cybertruck’s battery pack, but it is undoubtedly going to be the biggest battery pack Tesla has ever included in a consumer vehicle to date. That will make charging longer.

The good news is that Tesla confirmed that the Cybertruck works with an 800-volt battery system rather than the current 400-volt system in existing Tesla vehicles.

However, Tesla’s Supercharger network is not 800-volt. The new V4 Superchargers are supposed to enable 800-volt charging, but the new V4 stalls spotted in the US all appear to be connected to V3 400-volt cabinets.

This means that Cybertruck owners won’t be able to take advantage of the faster charging capacity at Supercharger stations.
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=> gut; in freier Wildbahn wären auch nur mal erst 10 Stück zu versorgen

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nebenbei: $TSLA hat gegenüber dem Large Cap Growth-Benchmark $QQQ immer mehr an Dynamik eingebüßt in den letzten 6 Monaten:



oder genauer auf Basis der jeweiligen Schlusskurse:

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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 74.875.101 von faultcode am 28.11.23 15:52:14

hier ein Betrag, der sich auf die damaligen Erfahrungen mit Edelstahl bei den DeLorean DMC-12-Autos bezieht: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMC_DeLorean (+)

Allerdings scheint es möglicherweise wichtige Unterschiede zu geben: damals eben in SS304 austenitic stainless steel + "The stainless-steel panels are fixed to a fiberglass underbody. The underbody is affixed to a steel double-Y frame chassis, inspired by the Lotus Esprit platform.[25] The chassis was coated with epoxy, a material that protects steel against corrosion." (+)
=> hinzukommt die wahrscheinlich unterschiedlichen Stärken der verwendeten Stahlbleche, beim Cybertruck wohl stärker (3-mm-thick (.118-in) (~) und damit auch die bisherigen Probleme bei der Formung


28.11.
Cybertruck is hard to make without panel gaps as bird droppings may result in stainless steel sanding
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Cybertruck-is-hard-to-make-wit…
WSJ: https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/behind-teslas-challenges-…
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According to one Chris Nicholson, who specializes in stainless steel finish maintenance, mainly of DeLoreans owned by collectors across the globe, the material can absolutely get dents, scratches, and dark spots. To fix those, he often has to resort to removing the top finish layer and then sanding the spot. He is of the opinion that Cybertruck owners "are going to have to learn how to do this," if they want to keep their pickup looking tough yet as pristine as it came out of the Texas Gigafactory.
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There is a dedicated Cyber Shield stainless steel cleaner that Tesla developed with detailing giant Auto Renu, for instance, and the showroom reps keep polishing the Cybertruck with it many times a day, according to several observations.
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=> vielleicht artet das Ganze am Ende in eine Merchandising-Veranstaltung aus, um Besitzer von Edelstahl-Oberflächen (wer hat die nicht in den Wohlstandsecken dieser Welt?) zum Kauf von solchen Mittelchen zu bewegen:


<The Cybertruck's tailored Cyber Shield stainless steel polish>



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Tesla’s Cybertruck is audaciously austenitic
https://www.sae.org/news/2020/06/tesla-cybertruck-stainless-…
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“Cold rolling makes this material very strong but sacrifices ductility and formability. That means a minimum subsequent metal forming is possible and dictates mostly flat panels and straight character lines,” Matlock said.
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