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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 65.846.988 von xwin am 26.11.20 03:39:23
Naja, das geht ja nun schon seit Jahren so, dass immer wieder Quality-Dinge hier genannt werden. Der größte Hype waren ja mal die brandgefährlichen Batterien. An der Front ist aber mittlerweile völliges Schweigen. Solar Roof ist das Gleiche. Da haben die nur mal ein paar Milliönchen an Walmart abgedrückt. Sonst alles gut.
Krass finde ich den Absatzeinbruch in Europa. Aber wie es scheint, wird ja in anderen Weltregionen ganz gut verkauft. Natürlich sind die Steigerungen nicht ansatzweise so hoch, als das der Aktienkurs gerechtfertigt wäre. Und die Fabriken sind nicht ausgelastet oder die angegebenen Produktionskapazitäten sind schlicht falsch gewesen.
Zitat von xwin:
Es stehen somit 2(3) Rückrufe an, die Tesla ohne Händlernetz meistern muss. Das Accounting bei Tesla bleibt somit spannend.
Naja, das geht ja nun schon seit Jahren so, dass immer wieder Quality-Dinge hier genannt werden. Der größte Hype waren ja mal die brandgefährlichen Batterien. An der Front ist aber mittlerweile völliges Schweigen. Solar Roof ist das Gleiche. Da haben die nur mal ein paar Milliönchen an Walmart abgedrückt. Sonst alles gut.
Krass finde ich den Absatzeinbruch in Europa. Aber wie es scheint, wird ja in anderen Weltregionen ganz gut verkauft. Natürlich sind die Steigerungen nicht ansatzweise so hoch, als das der Aktienkurs gerechtfertigt wäre. Und die Fabriken sind nicht ausgelastet oder die angegebenen Produktionskapazitäten sind schlicht falsch gewesen.
Tesla’s Potential Warranty Costs Are Not Reflected In The Stock’s Current Valuation
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimcollins/2020/11/25/teslas-po…
... NHTSA's recall targeted only a small number of 2016 Model Xs (9,136), those made from September 17, 2105 to July 30th 2016, an estimated 10% of Model X production during that time period. ...
As excellently reported by CNBC’s Lora Kolodny, Tesla faces a NHTSA investigation of Media Control Unit (MCU) failures causing rearview camera blackouts on 2012-2015 Model S. This is clearly a hardware issue, and the chip involved in the investigation, a NAND Nvidia Tegra, was used in a total of 159,000 Tesla vehicles bu NHTSA’s count, as noted in NHTSA’s ODI document ...
Analyzing the NHTSA documents also shows the presence of a NHTSA investigation into Tesla’s “white whale,” sudden unintended acceleration. This is not a conspiracy theory posited by cranks on Twitter,but is a live investigation, that in true NHTSA fashion was opened in January of this year. ...
1) Tesla is underreserved for any major recall. After booking a provision of $175 million for warranty expenses in the third quarter, Tesla's warranty reserve stood at $1.269 billion as of September 3oth. That’s a very small amount compared to Tesla's annual production rate, especially for a company that does not have a dealer network. With China’s State Administration for Market Regulation issuing a recall in October for Models S and X made from 2013 to 2017 due to Tesla's “whompy wheel” suspension issue, and the impact of yesterday's recall, I would expect Tesla to have to provision much more heavily for warranty in its 4Q2020 earnings report. Year-end figures are considered definitive by the SEC (and are audited,) so every public company reflects a degree of conservatism in them with regards to reserves rarely seen in quarterly figures.
2) Tesla’s awful performance in quality evaluation surveys—most recently Consumer Reports after a terrible performance in the most recent J.D Power survey—actually has a financial cost. Making bad cars is no way to make big profits. The Models S and X produced from 2012-2018 not only contributed to Tesla's cumulative, multibillion-dollar net loss in those 6 years, but they will live on Tesla's balance sheet as potential liabilities for years to come. ...
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Es stehen somit 2(3) Rückrufe an, die Tesla ohne Händlernetz meistern muss. Das Accounting bei Tesla bleibt somit spannend.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimcollins/2020/11/25/teslas-po…
... NHTSA's recall targeted only a small number of 2016 Model Xs (9,136), those made from September 17, 2105 to July 30th 2016, an estimated 10% of Model X production during that time period. ...
As excellently reported by CNBC’s Lora Kolodny, Tesla faces a NHTSA investigation of Media Control Unit (MCU) failures causing rearview camera blackouts on 2012-2015 Model S. This is clearly a hardware issue, and the chip involved in the investigation, a NAND Nvidia Tegra, was used in a total of 159,000 Tesla vehicles bu NHTSA’s count, as noted in NHTSA’s ODI document ...
Analyzing the NHTSA documents also shows the presence of a NHTSA investigation into Tesla’s “white whale,” sudden unintended acceleration. This is not a conspiracy theory posited by cranks on Twitter,but is a live investigation, that in true NHTSA fashion was opened in January of this year. ...
1) Tesla is underreserved for any major recall. After booking a provision of $175 million for warranty expenses in the third quarter, Tesla's warranty reserve stood at $1.269 billion as of September 3oth. That’s a very small amount compared to Tesla's annual production rate, especially for a company that does not have a dealer network. With China’s State Administration for Market Regulation issuing a recall in October for Models S and X made from 2013 to 2017 due to Tesla's “whompy wheel” suspension issue, and the impact of yesterday's recall, I would expect Tesla to have to provision much more heavily for warranty in its 4Q2020 earnings report. Year-end figures are considered definitive by the SEC (and are audited,) so every public company reflects a degree of conservatism in them with regards to reserves rarely seen in quarterly figures.
2) Tesla’s awful performance in quality evaluation surveys—most recently Consumer Reports after a terrible performance in the most recent J.D Power survey—actually has a financial cost. Making bad cars is no way to make big profits. The Models S and X produced from 2012-2018 not only contributed to Tesla's cumulative, multibillion-dollar net loss in those 6 years, but they will live on Tesla's balance sheet as potential liabilities for years to come. ...
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Es stehen somit 2(3) Rückrufe an, die Tesla ohne Händlernetz meistern muss. Das Accounting bei Tesla bleibt somit spannend.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 65.526.166 von faultcode am 28.10.20 17:51:33Dudenhöffer auf dem Weg zu den ganz großen Tesla-Shills (>3,700 Follower).
Verweist jetzt direkt auf die Fach-Publikation DER AKTIONÄR
https://twitter.com/DudenhofferAUTO/status/13315284292006174…
Verweist jetzt direkt auf die Fach-Publikation DER AKTIONÄR
https://twitter.com/DudenhofferAUTO/status/13315284292006174…
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 65.826.369 von faultcode am 24.11.20 16:51:19Elon Musk wieder ganz vorne dabei beim Abgreifen von Subventionen.
Versprochen von Fanboy Peter Altmaier. Ist ja schließlich nicht sein Geld:
...
Laut Altmaier könne Tesla beim Aufbau der Produktion mit einer „beträchtlichen Förderung“ des Staates rechnen. Details könne er nennen, sobald das zweite Großprojekt zur Batteriezellfertigung von der EU-Kommission genehmigt worden sei.
Das dürfte demnächst passieren, sagte der CDU-Politiker am Dienstag auf der Veranstaltung, die der Bundeswirtschaftsminister im Zuge der deutschen EU-Ratspräsidentschaft organisiert hatte.
...
https://www.handelsblatt.com/unternehmen/industrie/tesla-elo…
https://twitter.com/BMWi_Bund/status/1331189605379485697
Versprochen von Fanboy Peter Altmaier. Ist ja schließlich nicht sein Geld:
...
Laut Altmaier könne Tesla beim Aufbau der Produktion mit einer „beträchtlichen Förderung“ des Staates rechnen. Details könne er nennen, sobald das zweite Großprojekt zur Batteriezellfertigung von der EU-Kommission genehmigt worden sei.
Das dürfte demnächst passieren, sagte der CDU-Politiker am Dienstag auf der Veranstaltung, die der Bundeswirtschaftsminister im Zuge der deutschen EU-Ratspräsidentschaft organisiert hatte.
...
https://www.handelsblatt.com/unternehmen/industrie/tesla-elo…
https://twitter.com/BMWi_Bund/status/1331189605379485697
23.11.
Tesla Class Action Alleges Concealment of Suspension Defect
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/class-action/tesla-class-actio…
COURT: N.D. Cal.
TRACK DOCKET: No. 20-cv-08208 (Bloomberg Law Subscription)
COMPANY INFO: Tesla Inc. (Bloomberg Law Subscription)
Tesla Inc. was hit with a proposed consumer class action in the Northern District of California alleging the company concealed information about latent defects in the suspension system of its Model S and Model X automobiles produced from Sept. 17, 2013, to Oct. 15, 2018, which increase the risk of crash.
...
Tesla Class Action Alleges Concealment of Suspension Defect
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/class-action/tesla-class-actio…
COURT: N.D. Cal.
TRACK DOCKET: No. 20-cv-08208 (Bloomberg Law Subscription)
COMPANY INFO: Tesla Inc. (Bloomberg Law Subscription)
Tesla Inc. was hit with a proposed consumer class action in the Northern District of California alleging the company concealed information about latent defects in the suspension system of its Model S and Model X automobiles produced from Sept. 17, 2013, to Oct. 15, 2018, which increase the risk of crash.
...
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 65.808.552 von xwin am 23.11.20 15:06:04
Das scheint die Investoren aktuell nicht zu interessieren. Tesla kann sich einfach alles erlauben.
Zitat von xwin: This Bluetooth Attack Can Steal a Tesla Model X in Minutes
https://www.wired.com/story/tesla-model-x-hack-bluetooth/
... Lennert Wouters, a security researcher at Belgian university KU Leuven, today revealed a collection of security vulnerabilities he found in both Tesla Model X cars and their keyless entry fobs. He discovered that those combined vulnerabilities could be exploited by any car thief who manages to read a car's vehicle identification number—usually visible on a car's dashboard through the windshield—and also come within roughly 15 feet of the victim's key fob. The hardware kit necessary to pull off the heist cost Wouters around $300, fits inside a backpack, and is controlled from the thief's phone. In just 90 seconds, the hardware can extract a radio code that unlocks the owner's Model X. ...
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Die Lücke ist inzwischen geschlossen. Aber das ist nun bereits das dritte mal, dass die sehr jungen Forscher (wie die RobinHoodies nur die Variante mit Hirnfunktion) die Keyless Go Implementierung im Tesla gehackt haben. Bischen komisch für ein Unternehmen mit diesem grossen Technologievorsprung.
Das scheint die Investoren aktuell nicht zu interessieren. Tesla kann sich einfach alles erlauben.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 65.808.552 von xwin am 23.11.20 15:06:04
Zitat von xwin: (wie die RobinHoodies nur die Variante mit Hirnfunktion)🤣
This Bluetooth Attack Can Steal a Tesla Model X in Minutes
https://www.wired.com/story/tesla-model-x-hack-bluetooth/
... Lennert Wouters, a security researcher at Belgian university KU Leuven, today revealed a collection of security vulnerabilities he found in both Tesla Model X cars and their keyless entry fobs. He discovered that those combined vulnerabilities could be exploited by any car thief who manages to read a car's vehicle identification number—usually visible on a car's dashboard through the windshield—and also come within roughly 15 feet of the victim's key fob. The hardware kit necessary to pull off the heist cost Wouters around $300, fits inside a backpack, and is controlled from the thief's phone. In just 90 seconds, the hardware can extract a radio code that unlocks the owner's Model X. ...
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Die Lücke ist inzwischen geschlossen. Aber das ist nun bereits das dritte mal, dass die sehr jungen Forscher (wie die RobinHoodies nur die Variante mit Hirnfunktion) die Keyless Go Implementierung im Tesla gehackt haben. Bischen komisch für ein Unternehmen mit diesem grossen Technologievorsprung.
https://www.wired.com/story/tesla-model-x-hack-bluetooth/
... Lennert Wouters, a security researcher at Belgian university KU Leuven, today revealed a collection of security vulnerabilities he found in both Tesla Model X cars and their keyless entry fobs. He discovered that those combined vulnerabilities could be exploited by any car thief who manages to read a car's vehicle identification number—usually visible on a car's dashboard through the windshield—and also come within roughly 15 feet of the victim's key fob. The hardware kit necessary to pull off the heist cost Wouters around $300, fits inside a backpack, and is controlled from the thief's phone. In just 90 seconds, the hardware can extract a radio code that unlocks the owner's Model X. ...
_______________________________
Die Lücke ist inzwischen geschlossen. Aber das ist nun bereits das dritte mal, dass die sehr jungen Forscher (wie die RobinHoodies nur die Variante mit Hirnfunktion) die Keyless Go Implementierung im Tesla gehackt haben. Bischen komisch für ein Unternehmen mit diesem grossen Technologievorsprung.
derweil hat sich Elon Musk wieder einen neuen Freund gemacht:
Xpeng CEO to Elon: "Be prepared for us to beat you out of your mind."
Xpeng Motors is tired of Elon Musk's repeated accusations about intellectual property theft and broke its months-long silence on the issue. This came following a tweet Musk made last week after Xpeng announced it will be the first electric vehicle automaker to include lidar on its vehicles.
Earlier this year we posted a deep dive into the IP theft allegations, and thoroughly explained the entire situation.
This is all about an ex-Tesla employee, Guangzhi Cao, who left Tesla to work for Xpeng's US subsidiary, XMotors. Tesla later found out the Cao has downloaded a copy of Tesla's autonomous driving code while he was working for Tesla, which is not illegal but is understandably against company policy.
Tesla filed the lawsuit against Cao in March of 2019, alleging that the former autonomous driving technology engineer took Tesla's proprietary Autopilot source code. It's Tesla's belief that Cao downloaded the source code to give to his new employer.
Cao admits that he did download Tesla's Autopilot source code, but that he deleted it and never provided XMotors with any of it.
...
23.11.
Xpeng Calls Musk's Tweets 'Bullying' Tactics, Isn't Taking It Anymore
https://insideevs.com/news/455900/xpeng-responds-elon-musk-t…
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1329805208944332803
Xpeng CEO to Elon: "Be prepared for us to beat you out of your mind."
Xpeng Motors is tired of Elon Musk's repeated accusations about intellectual property theft and broke its months-long silence on the issue. This came following a tweet Musk made last week after Xpeng announced it will be the first electric vehicle automaker to include lidar on its vehicles.
Earlier this year we posted a deep dive into the IP theft allegations, and thoroughly explained the entire situation.
This is all about an ex-Tesla employee, Guangzhi Cao, who left Tesla to work for Xpeng's US subsidiary, XMotors. Tesla later found out the Cao has downloaded a copy of Tesla's autonomous driving code while he was working for Tesla, which is not illegal but is understandably against company policy.
Tesla filed the lawsuit against Cao in March of 2019, alleging that the former autonomous driving technology engineer took Tesla's proprietary Autopilot source code. It's Tesla's belief that Cao downloaded the source code to give to his new employer.
Cao admits that he did download Tesla's Autopilot source code, but that he deleted it and never provided XMotors with any of it.
...
23.11.
Xpeng Calls Musk's Tweets 'Bullying' Tactics, Isn't Taking It Anymore
https://insideevs.com/news/455900/xpeng-responds-elon-musk-t…
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1329805208944332803
und wieder ist ein Tezzla-Dach davongeflogen. Diesmal in China:
https://twitter.com/StultusVox/status/1330683440832897025
Top comment, roughly translated:
"It's normal, don't worry about it. It’s normal for Tesla to leak water on a rainy day. Tesla is not a traditional car company. Give them some time"
https://twitter.com/StultusVox/status/1330683440832897025
Top comment, roughly translated:
"It's normal, don't worry about it. It’s normal for Tesla to leak water on a rainy day. Tesla is not a traditional car company. Give them some time"
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