Graphon - Die neue Citrix? - 500 Beiträge pro Seite

[tschernobyl]

Graphon macht, kurz und bündig gesagt, das für Linux bzw. Unix, was Citrix für Windows NT macht: Eine Remote-Darstellung einer Applikation, die auf dem Server abläuft, auf einem (Thin-) Client. Für alle Nicht-Techniker: Dadurch sinkt die Anforderung an die Netzwerkbandbreite drastisch. Und wer ist schon mit der Geschwindigkeit im Inet zufrieden?
Überzeugen kann man sich bei www.graphon.com, wo Corel`s Wordperfect über das Internet bedienbar wird, ohne auf dem Client installiert zu sein. Zweiter positiver Aspekt dieser Technik ist die Reduzierung der TCO (Total Cost of Ownership), also der Wartungskosten. Wer mal 20 WIN95-Clients mit mehr oder weniger unbedarften und experimentierfreudigen Usern betreut hat, weiss was ich meine. Für die Produkte von Graphon und Citrix reicht schon ein "dummes" Terminal, an dem man nix verstellen kann. Dabei genügt die Rechengeschwindigkeit eines 286er, um Windows-Programme zügig ausführen zu können.

Die Story von Citrix ist absolut überzeugend, die Aktie ist mein Top-Favorit. Graphon (nur in USA, Kürzel GOJO) wird mit ca. 1 Mill. $ bewertet, also ca. 1/8 von Citrix. Ich spekuliere darauf, dass sich Graphon im Zuge des Linux-Booms vervielfachen wird. Erwähnenswert ist, dass Graphon bereits einen Auftrag mit der chinesischen Regierung abgeschlossen hat. Sun, IBM und Corel gehören ebenfalls zu den Kunden von Graphon.

Wer sich von technischer Seite informieren will, findet unter www.thinplanet.com einigen
Lesestoff. Diskutiert werden beide Werte in den Ami-Boards www.ragingbull.com und www.siliconinvestor.com.

tscherno

[tschernobyl]

GraphOn`s GO-Global to Deploy Ericsson`s Standard Office Environment to Ericsson Employees Worldwide Thin, server-based software to enable real-time computing, telecommuting solution for Ericsson`s 100,000 workers from anywhere, over any connection.

CAMPBELL, CA - December 6, 1999 - GraphOn Corporation (Nasdaq:GOJO) (www.graphon.com) today announced that Ericsson
(www.ericsson.se) has certified GraphOn`s GO-Global software (soon to
become part of GraphOn`s Bridges product) for integration into its Standard
Office Environment (ESOE), providing a real-time computing and
telecommuting solution for Ericsson employees worldwide.

Using GO-Global, or Bridges, within Ericsson`s tested and approved
hardware and software environment will allow internal access of
business-critical applications from any location in the world over the Internet or a dial-up connection from Windows PCs. The company can now
centralize the management of server-based applications and deploy them
unchanged.

GraphOn`s Bridges is thin, server-based software that connects any UNIX,
Linux or Windows applications to any display device over any connection,
without reducing performance or functionality. GO-Global, soon to become
the UNIXBridge component of Bridges, provides a fast and reliable way for
ESOE users and Ericsson employees to access applications over any
connection, such as the Internet or dialup.

"GraphOn`s thin, server-based software is ideal for the larger enterprise with a global presence, such as Ericsson," said Robin Ford, Executive Vice President Sales and Marketing of GraphOn Corp. "GO-Global, or Bridges, allows Ericsson to centralize control of its applications, alleviating
office-by-office and desktop-by-desktop installation worries and guarantees
that any authorized Ericsson employee can access the latest company
software from anywhere," said Ford.

[tschernobyl]

Netter Link:
http://www.asia.microsoft.com/ntserver/terminalserver/exec/v…

[magoo]

Hallo tschernobyl und alle anderen,

kann mir jemand die dt. WKN geben, ich brauche sie, da ich kein Auslandskonto habe.
Eine Adresse wo man diese WKN`s bekommt von Werten die nicht in D. gehandelt werden wäre auch nicht schlecht.
Danke

[tschernobyl]

Hallo Magoo!

Schön dass sich mit dir auch mal in D jemand für Graphon interessiert.
Graphon wird leider nur in den USA gehandelt (Nasdaq-Kürzel GOJO).
Infos über Graphon:
www.nasdaq.com
www.thinplanet.com (Technik)
www.graphon.com

Deine Meinung zu dem Wert würde mich sehr interessieren. Ich fühl
mich damit so alleine ;-). Im ersten Beitrag habe ich übrigens zwei-
mal Mist geschrieben. Zum einen ist die Marktkap. nur 200 Mill. $,
und eine Kooperation mit der chinesischen Regierung besteht (noch)
nicht. Es handelt sich vielmehr um Kooperationen mit chin.
Systemhäusern, die aber Bildungseinrichtungen beliefern.

[tschernobyl]

Graphon an Silvester in den letzten 15 Minuten von $13 auf zeitweise
über $20 (Ende $18) bei hohen Umsätzen!

Harmons Vermutung:

With its girth and depth -- not to mention substantial revenue and positive earnings --
the other appealing thing about SCOC to me is that the Linux companies with market caps
north of $5 billion to $20 billion may need to acquire SOMETHING LIKE SCOC to round
out there offerings, boost their revenue and add some dimension to the
Linux push. Why not Linux-UNIX under one company?

Frohes neues jahr!

Tscherno

[tschernobyl]

Raise the Red Hat
Wednesday December 29 11:24 AM


Red Hat, the leading distributor of the Linux operating system, says it plans to expand
distribution and support within mainland China in anticipation of next year`s Windows 2000
roll-out. The announcment comes less than two months after GraphOn, a San Jose-based
thin-client applications provider that allows Windows-based applications to run on top of
Linux operating system, signed a series of partnerships with Chinese companies looking to
speed Linux adoption within the Chinese goverment, educational system and private
enterprise community. Some technology watchers interpreted the November partnership as
an early sign that the Chinese government, which has battled long and hard with U.S.
software firms over intellectual property protection issues, favors the community-owned
Linux license over Windows NT and proprietary unix derivatives.

Red Hat is working with Sybase to develop a simplified Chinese language version of Red
Hat Linux and is planning a January release. South China Morning Post

[tschernobyl]

Graphon wird jetzt auch in München gehandelt (lt. ComDirect, ich hoffe es stimmt).

WKN 929312


tscherno



PS: an Graphon ist die Jahresanfangskorrektur spurlos vorbeigegangen,
gestern sogar ein sattes Plus

[tschernobyl]

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[tschernobyl]

GraphOn Corporation - GOJO - Reports Record Revenues for Fiscal 1999

CAMPBELL, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 10, 2000--GraphOn Corporation, (Nasdaq: GOJO) (www.graphon.com) today reported record revenues for the year ended December 31, 1999. Net revenues for the fourth quarter of 1999 were approximately $1.2 million, up 88% from approximately $625 thousand in the comparable period of the prior year. For the year ended December 31, 1999, net revenues were approximately $3.6 million, up 71% from $2.1 million for the same period in 1998. Revenues increased for both periods primarily due to the rise of OEM sales to independent software vendors (ISVs). GraphOn will report the rest of its results at its teleconference call scheduled on February 8, 2000.

"GraphOn is maintaining a consistent focus on volume sales and OEM licensing to Fortune 1000 customers and independent software vendors, which provides us with larger volume sales and considerably lower support and marketing overhead."" said GraphOn CEO and President, Walt Keller.

[tschernobyl]

GraphOn Provides SoftwareRun with Web-enabling Software that Allows Anyone to Test Drive Linux and
UNIX Applications Online

CAMPBELL, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 18, 2000--GraphOn Corporation (Nasdaq:GOJO) (www.graphon.com),
developers of Bridges(TM) web-enabling software for UNIX, Linux and Windows, has signed a strategic partnership agreement
with Scandinavian software publishing specialist, SoftwareRun, to use GraphOn`s server-based software to web-enable its
selection of online Linux and UNIX software demos. GraphOn`s GO-Joe(TM) (to be integrated into Bridges(TM) software later
this quarter) will allow consumer and business users to test drive full versions of Linux and UNIX applications from
SoftwareRun`s website using only a web browser, regardless of the operating systems on their desktop.

SoftwareRun is an Internet-based service that provides real-time demonstrations of various applications using a web browser.
GraphOn`s software enables visitors to the web site (http://www.softwarerun.com) to run demonstrations of a range of UNIX
and Linux software. The service provides users with a valuable resource for evaluating new UNIX and Linux software
applications quickly and easily in their native form from any desktop device with access to the Internet.

"The software at SoftwareRun are full version applications that can be run simply, using a web browser," said Krister
Strandberg, SoftwareRun CEO. "Using GraphOn`s technology, visitors can test-drive server- based UNIX and Linux
applications on the World Wide Web without downloading or installing any software on their desktop computers. This is
particularly attractive to those who are interested in trying out new Linux applications, but are not yet ready to install the actual
operating system."

"We are delighted about our partnership with SoftwareRun and the excellent opportunity it provides for GraphOn to showcase
the benefits of our web-enabling technology," said GraphOn Director of International Sales, Melody Osorio. "The fit between
their service and our technology is ideal for end users, as well as independent software vendors who need to web-enable
applications for rental and deployment over the Internet, to easily evaluate full featured software."

[tschernobyl]

Auch wenn es keinen interessiert: Graphon ist trotz der vielen guten News deswegen z.Zt. etwas zäh, weil gerade ziemlich viele Warrants eingelöst werden. Die Frist dafür endet irgendwann in den nächsten beiden Wochen. Also cool bleiben!

[BÄrtram]

Hallo Tschernobyl,

also ich denke, dass graphon aus einem weiteren Grund noch nicht gross gestiegen ist:
Die Zahl der gehandelten Aktien ist etwas duerftig, ich denke, dass graphon in Deutschland unter den Aktionaären einfach noch nicht bekannt genug ist. Wenn sich mehr Leute dafuer interessieren wuerden, waere der Kurs sicher höher.
Aber heute war doch schon wieder ein recht guter Tag in Berlin, mal sehen wenn es so weiter geht, ...

Ciao BÄrtram

[tschernobyl]

Hallo Bärtram!
Ich hoffe dein Name ist nicht Börsentendenz ;-)
Graphon wird erst seit Jahresanfang in D gehandelt, das Volumen in
den USA ist so zw. 50 und 100 Tsd./Tag. Graphon wird aber hier auch
noch entdeckt werden, ist nur eine Frage der Zeit.


Hier noch die News zu den Warrants:

Completion of Class A and B Warrant Redemption Provides Aggregate Capital Infusion of $18 Million from Warrant Exercises

CAMPBELL, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 25, 2000--GraphOn Corporation, (Nasdaq: GOJO) (www.graphon.com), developers of web-enabling software, today announced the completion of the previously announced redemption of its A and B common stock purchase warrants issued as part of its initial public offering on November 12, 1996 (IPO Warrants). Exercises of Class A and B warrants prior to the warrant redemption date of January 24, 2000 resulted in an aggregate capital infusion of approximately $17.3 million. Any IPO Warrants not exercised prior to the warrant redemption date will be redeemed by GraphOn at $.05 per share. As previously announced and included in the $18 million aggregate amount, GraphOn received $728,000 from the exercise of approximately 110,000 underwriter units issued in connection with its initial public offering.

The exercise of warrants brought total primary shares to approximately 13.9 million shares from a pre-redemption level of 11.1 million shares. Currently, 17.5 million shares are diluted. The Company intends to allocate warrant exercise proceeds to its ongoing research and development, marketing and sales objectives, as well as expanding international alliances and joint ventures.

Ed Becmer, CFO, commented, "This recent capital infusion from pre-redemption of warrant exercises should position us well for growth in 2000. This capital will enhance and expand our continued progress on key business initiatives, ongoing development of web-based software deployment technology and new releases of our Bridges products."

[BÄrtram]

Hallo Tschernobyl,

dein Name weckt bei mir auch nicht die besten Erinnerungen aber meine hat nix mit der Börse zu tun, er hat seine Ursachen anderswo.
Ich baue auch darauf, dass die HAndelszahlen in D steigen, auch wenn sie sicher nicht solche Ausmasse wie in den USA erreichen werden aber es ist schon etwas krass, wenn eine Order trotz Bestimmung des Handelsplatzes woandershin verschoben wird, weil kein Verkäufer da ist.
Ich werde jezt erstmal eine Weile abwarten und baue auf einen gemaechlichen Anstieg im Laufe diesen Jahres.

Ciao BÄrtram

[tschernobyl]

Tschernobyl steht für eine strahlende Zukunft!

Es gibt das Gerücht, dass der Graphon-Vorstand wieder in China weilt und mit guten Nachrichten, d.h. hoffentlich neuen Kunden, zurückkomt. Warten wir es ab.

[tschernobyl]

GraphOn (GOJO) Provides GO-Joe to Connect DNA Researchers
Worldwide <GOJO.O>


GraphOn (GOJO) Provides GO-Joe to Connect DNA
Researchers Worldwide for National Research Council of Canada Genome
Project




CAMPBELL, Calif. and HALIFAX, Nova Scotia--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan.
31, 2000--GraphOn Corporation today announced that it is providing the
National Research Council of Canada (NRC) with GraphOn GO-Joe(TM)
connectivity software to enable researchers around the world to access
the hundreds of applications and databases at the Canadian
Bioinformatics Resource (CBR) over the Internet and Canada`s CANARIE
Optical IP advanced network, CA*net 3.
"We discovered GraphOn`s GO-Joe through Sun Microsystems`
i-Planet," said Terry Dalton, IT/NOC Manager for the NRC Institute for
Marine Biosciences which houses CBR`s main servers. "We have found it
to be a very effective way for Windows based PC`s to access highly
sophisticated number crunching and graphics-intensive applications and
data over any kind of Internet connection."
The NRC created the Canadian Bioinformatics Resource to more
efficiently conduct its internal genomics research programs and to
provide bioinformatics services to researchers throughout Canada. The
CBR Website (http://www.cbr.nrc.ca) now provides many free services to
researchers over the Internet and facilitates collaborations among
genomics groups worldwide. Because potential CBR users operate on a
variety of computer platforms, CBR had to find a way to enable users
to use its data resources and applications securely over any speed of
Internet connection, including dial-up, using a standard browser
interface on any standard Windows PC.
GraphOn and Sun`s i-Planet offered a solution. Today the NRC is
using GraphOn GO-Joe (to be named "Bridges(TM)" Q1 2000)
enterprise-level Java connectivity software to deliver a common,
single-source Sun Solaris environment to remote researchers`
Windows-based PC`s. Essential security for these connections is
provided by the i-Planet application infrastructure products, offered
by the Sun-Netscape Alliance.
"With GraphOn providing the connectivity and i-Planet providing
the security, we are much closer to our goal of bringing together
researchers from industry, government and academic institutions to
speed innovation in genomics and bioinformatics research." said
Dalton.
GraphOn`s GO-Joe connectivity software is currently being used
with about 100 concurrent licenses to access applications and data
residing on Sun Enterprise 4000 HPC class servers at the CBR main site
in Halifax and smaller servers in Canada and in New York. "We are
pleased with the performance of GO-Joe and i-Planet. This combination
streamlines and centralizes administration, provides security, a
single point of entry and a standard look and feel to the client
regardless of the back-end infrastructure," Terry Dalton said.
NRC expects to be expanding the scope of the Canadian
Bioinformatics Resource over the next year to keep pace with the
increasing level of genomics activities around the world. The impact
of genomics and associated bioinformatics on the life sciences
(medicine, pharmaceuticals, agriculture, fisheries, and forestry) will
be akin to the computer revolution in the 20th century.
"GraphOn is honored to provide a cost-effective pathway for
researchers to share important information that will have significant
impact on mankind`s future." Said GraphOn CEO and President, Walt
Keller. "The cost-efficiency and performance of GO-Joe connectivity,
i-Planet security and negligible investment required on the client
side should encourage wide participation in this important effort."
About the National Research Council of Canada
NRC, Canada`s premier science and technology research
organization, is a leader in scientific and technical research, the
diffusion of technology and the dissemination of scientific and
technical information. Working in partnership with innovative
companies, universities and research organizations world wide, NRC
enhances Canada`s social and economic well-being and creates new
opportunities for Canadians. Through knowledge, research and
innovation, NRC and its partners are expanding the frontiers of
science and technology. NRC can be found on the web at
http://www.nrc.ca.

[robbinett]

Hi an alle ...

Graphon scheint mir ein Riesenpotetial zu haben. Windows-Anwendungen übers Netz egal auf welchem Client ist ja eigentlich der Knaller !

Hat schon jemand Erfahrung mit der Software ?

Hier könnte da Linux-Distributions-unabhängig vom erst einsetzenden Linuxboom richtig Geld verdient werden !

Noch ein bisserl forschen und ich bin dabei ...

:-) Robert

[tschernobyl]

Hi Robbinett!

Ich poste mal meine Links zu Graphon. Ferner habe ich einen guten Bekannten bei Alcatel (Kunde von Graphon), der sich mal umhört oder sogar ausprobiert. Ergebnisse werde ich posten.

http://www.thinplanet.com/opinion/graphon-heat.asp
http://www.graphon.com/News/pr-patent.html
(Patent, Windows-Applikationen per X-Windows auf dem Linux-/Unix-Desktop darzustellen!
Wenn das mal für die Zukunft keine sprudelnde Geldquelle ist.)

http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/stories/news/0,4153,2318134,00.h…
(ASP/Thin-Client, keine Phantasie wie bei SCO, sondern bereits Realität. Und das
Beste daran: Graphon braucht keinen teuren Terminal-/Metframe-Server, sondern nur
ein "normales" NT. Und bringt trotzdem Load-Balancing, Client-Printing usw.)

http://www.graphon.com/News/pr-nrc_canada.html
http://www.graphon.com/News/pr-ibm2.html
(Graphon-Produkt nicht unter Corel, sondern Sun Solaris/i-Planet und IBM AIX!)

http://www.graphon.com/News/pr-china991102.html
http://www.amcity.com/sanjose/stories/1999/11/01/daily14.htm…
(China-Fantasie? nein, China-Tatsachen kostenlos dazu. Und: Was kommt einer mutmaßlich
angestrebten Überwachung der User in China durch die Regierung mehr entgegen als die
Ausführung der Anwendungen auf zentralen Servern, wo sie einfacher zu kontrollieren sind)

http://www.graphon.com/News/pr-fiscal1999.html
(Ergebnisszuwächse hauen mich zwar nicht vom Hocker, sind aber solide)

http://www.graphon.com/News/pr-ericsson.html
http://www.graphon.com/News/pr-alcatel.html
(nicht gerade die kleinsten Kunden)

http://www.graphon.com/News/pr-marshallphelps.html
(gute Manager wechseln nicht zu schlechten Firmen)

http://www.graphon.com/News/pr-stockgroup_nasdaq.html
(Graphon ist K E I N OTC-Wert)

http://www.graphon.com/News/pr-linuxworld.html
(genug der Worte)

[tschernobyl]

GraphOn Announces Beta Versions of Bridges Web-Enabling Software for UNIX and Linux OEM

NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 3, 2000--GraphOn Corporation (Nasdaq:GOJO) (www.graphon.com) today announced it will release OEM beta versions of its web-enabling software Bridges for UNIX(R) and Linux(R), providing fast access of UNIX and Linux applications from virtually any desktop device over any connection with no additional hardware and without changing a single line of an application`s code.

Bridges 1.0 for UNIX and Linux join GraphOn`s previously announced Bridges for Windows(R) (WinBridge OEM), which instantly web-enables any 32-bit Windows application from virtually any desktop device over any connection. Bridges for Windows is licensed by Corel Corporation to provide fast access to server-based Windows applications from Corel(R) LINUX(R) OS desktops, and by Compuware(R) to instantly web-enable enterprise-level applications deployed with their UNIFA CE(R) development environment.

The beta versions of Bridges 1.0 for UNIX and Linux will feature increased stability and functionality, including 24 bit color support, enhanced session configuration, and client and server backing store, which allows users to save configuration and display information. In addition, icons can be created and saved to the desktop to directly launch connections to applications web-enabled, or published, by Bridges. The public release of Bridges 1.0 will replace GraphOn`s current family of server-based software products which includes, GO-Global, the first thin client PC X server, GO-Joe, the first thin client X server for Java, and GO-Between, the first thin client X server for multi-user Windows NT.

The OEM versions of Bridges 1.0 for UNIX and Linux are scheduled for beta release by the middle of February and will initially support Solaris 2.6/2.7 and HPUX 10.2/11. Operating systems based on Linux 2.2, including Red Hat Linux 6.x, are scheduled for beta release by the end of first quarter 2000. Desktop support for the beta version will include a very small native Windows client that can be run on any 32 bit Windows-based desktop device, and a tiny Java client that can be run on any Java-enabled device, such as a web browser.

With support for UNIX, Linux, and Windows applications, GraphOn Bridges is a complete, cross-platform application deployment solution for independent software vendors (ISVs) needing to web-enable their full-featured, interactive applications. Bridges can be integrated and bundled with desktop applications, and requires no extensions, add-ons or code rewrites.

[tschernobyl]

Graphon-Ergebnisse Q4/99:

http://www.graphon.com/News/pr-99q4results.html

[tschernobyl]

GraphOn -- GOJO -- Files for Trading on Nasdaq National Market

CAMPBELL, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 16, 2000--GraphOn Corporation (Nasdaq:GOJO) (www.graphon.com), developers of web-enabling software for Windows, UNIX, and Linux, today announced that it has filed an application for trading its shares on the Nasdaq National Market.

GraphOn has been trading under the ticker symbol GOJO on the Nasdaq SmallCap Market since August 1999 and filed for listing on the Nasdaq National Market last Thursday, February 10, 2000 after meeting the requirements for National Market qualification.

"GraphOn has had a loyal shareholder following on the SmallCap Market and expects that following to increase substantially if we move to the National Market," said GraphOn CEO and President, Walt Keller. "Trading on the National Market will give GOJO additional exposure and help us take advantage of opportunities, such as growing interest from large institutional investors."

GraphOn management says filing for listing on the Nasdaq National Market is a significant step toward increasing its visibility and shareholder value. "We have no debt outstanding and we are in a healthy cash position to grow our business," said Ed Becmer, GraphOn CFO. "We are in an aggressive position to create and acquire technologies that blur the lines between operating systems and make applications available to anyone over any connection anywhere in the world on any desktop or Internet-connected device."

[Boersenbauer]

Ich hatte beruflich vor ein paar Wochen einen Citrix Metaframe Seminar und das Konzept hat mich so überzeugt, dass ich darauf gleich die Aktie geordert habe :-) Zu obigem Beitrag muss ich aber noch zufügen dass Citrix selbstverständlich schon längst eine Anbindung an Unix hat, eben Metaframe für Unix. Hauptmarkt ist und bleibt aber dennoch Windows NT und halt Nachfolger Win2k. Citrix`s Remoteprotokoll ICA hat gegenüber Win2k`s RPC erhebliche Vorteile, man spricht von 2 Jahren Entwicklungsvorsprung. Das Ding kann so gut wie alles und der Metaframe Aufsatz ist im LAN megainteressant für
kleine über mittlere bis grosse Unternehmen. Man muss sich nur mal den adminstrativen (Nicht) Aufwand vorstellen. 50 superschlanke Clients hängen an einem Terminalserver (BS egal) und jegliche Updates, auch BS Updates erfolgen innerhalb Sekunden beim Einloggen vom Server aus. Applikationen können von verschiedenen Servern (natürlich auch nach Load Balancing Methode) in einem eigenen Fenster aufgerufen werden. Schon genial, 3 offene Fenster die von verschiedenen Servern geliefert werden.
Citrix stufe ich als Marktführer ein und zurecht höher bewertet.
Fester Kundenstamm besteht bereits, Potential ist noch massenhaft da.
Stell ich mich jetzt als Chefsystembetreuer vor :-) so würde ich mit Sicherheit den Aufsatz von Citrix durchsetzen.

BB

[tschernobyl]

Hi Boersenbauer!

Ich halte seit Anfang November Citrix (65E) und es ist das beste Pferd
in meinem Stall. Auf der Suche nach Konkurrenten zu Citrix bin ich auf
Graphon gestossen. Sicherlich wird Citrix Marktführer bleiben,
und den Unix-Client von Citrix gibts auch schon lange. Insgesamt ist
Metaframe ziemlich genial, und die Zusätze stimmen. Vom Vorteil
des ICA- vor dem RDP-Protokoll habe ich sowohl gehört als auch gelesen.
Deswegen mache ich mir auch keine Sorgen, daß SCO mit Tarantella viele
Citrix-Kunden abwerben kann.

Aber Metaframe ist ziemlich teuer, was viele Firmen aus meiner
eigenen Erfahrung von einem Einsatz abschreckt. Genau hier sehe ich
aber die Chance von Graphons Winbridge. Man braucht keinen Terminal-
server für Graphons Winbridge, ein normaler NT-Server reicht. Das
optionale Load-Balancing wird auf den Linux-Servern gehandelt. Auf
www.graphon.com findest du ein sehr ausführliches White Paper
zu Winbridge.

Und: Graphon ist noch wunderbar billig. Ist sicherlich spekulativer
als Citrix, aber die Chancen sind entsprechend größer. Außerdem hat
Graphon das Patent, X-Windows zur Darstellung von Windows-Applikationen
zu nutzen. Inwieweit sowas einklagbar ist, kann ich aber nicht
beurteilen. Die Geschwindigkeit des Graphon-Protokolls ist vergleichbar
mit dem von Citrix. Du kannst dich auf der Graphon-Seite davon
überzeugen (Wordperfect).

Ciao
Tscherno

[Boersenbauer]

Hai Tscherno,

Sagen wir mal so . Graphon müsste erst "entdeckt" werden.
Hier schliesst sich gleich die Frage an, wann eine Aktie gut
ist. Wenn der Kurs steigt oder wenn das Unternehmen bzw. ihr
Konzept und Produkt gut ist ? Auf die Gefahr hin, dass ich den ersten
Hype der Aktie verpasse, werde/würde ich da (noch) nicht einsteigen.
Auch die Kursentwicklung ist recht behäbig. Für Metaframe benötigt man übrigens keine besondere Hardware. Bei uns lief im Seminar ein stinknormaler NT 4 Terminalserver auf einem Pentium 2 Notebook mit Metaframe oben drauf. In der Firma haben wir ein System, ebenfalls
mit NT Terminalserver (HP Server Pentium 3 mit 2 GB RAM) und Metaframe. Für sehr sehr sehr kleine Klitschen ist das System zu teuer, klar. Citrix bietet aber auch eine Meneg Know How und Erfahrung, individuelle Problemlösungen, Hotfixes usw usw und das schon lange Zeit. Ich denk mal aus der Sicht der EDV Planung eines Unternehmens, dass man nicht nur die Primärkosten (Hardware,Softwarekosten) überschlägt, sondern auch die Folgekosten, den Support, eben das ganze Know How einer rennoumierten Firma und da seh ich halt Citrix vorne.
Werde trotzdem Graphon beobachten.

Grüsse
BB

[Darkseeker]

Hallo ihr beiden,

nur mal so eingeworfen: Ist Graphon denn noch nicht ordentlich
gelaufen? Oder wo beginnt für euch ein ordentlicher Lauf?
Aber es scheint sowieso nur eine Frage der Zeit zu sein, bis es
in Amiland mal knallt, da die Schere zwischen NASDAQ und Dow
immer weiter auf geht...

CU Darkseeker

[tschernobyl]

Hallo ihr beiden!

Börsenbauer, denk mal an China. Graphon hat bereits inst. Kunden in China. Die Ankündigungen und Mutmassungen, daß China Windows mehr oder weniger verbannt, will ich nicht weiter kommentieren. Ausgeschlossen erscheint mir das aber nicht. Und bedenke die Einstiegsschwelle für Citrix Metaframe. Wollen Firmen (die kleinen Klitschen wg. mir, davon gibts es aber massenhaft) das Thin-Client-Konzept einfach mal so ausprobieren, brauchen sie bei Graphon lediglich einen NT- (der oft vorhanden ist) und einen Linux-Server. Los gehts! Oftmals wird Linux als Internetrouter eingesetzt. Mit Winbridge erhält man dann eine Lösung, um in VPNs Windows-Anwendungen (ich denke z.B. an Kassensysteme in Fillialen) abzubilden.

Weiter ist zu beachten, daß viele Internet Appliances mit Linux laufen werden. Dort wird aber der Preis eine entscheidende Rolle spielen. Zwar ist der Citrix-Client kostenlos, der Server aber keineswegs (der von Graphon übrigens auch nicht). Ein weiterer Markt für Graphon.

Das mit dem Bekanntheitsgrad stimmt nur für D. In den USA wird Graphon für ein Small Cap schon in ansehnlichen Mengen gehandelt. Das anstehende NM-Nasdaq-Listing wird außerdem zwangsläufig zu einer Bewertung durch Analysten führen. Dann werden wir sehen, ob 15$ nicht als Schnäppchenpreis erscheinen. Bedenke, daß Graphon eine Kap. von lediglich 166 Mil. $ hat (ist nicht meine Art dumm zu pushen, aber bei Graphon komme ich immer ins Schwärmen).
Quelle:
http://moneycentral.msn.com/scripts/webquote.dll?ipage=qd&Sy…

Absolut recht gebe ich dir natürlich im Punkt der Kostenersparnis durch eine Thin-Client-Lösung. Deswegen halte ich die 3 Player in diesem Bereich, Citrix, SCO und Graphon (eigentlich sinds 4, aber MS will ich nicht, die sind mir zu gut gelaufen ). Und nicht umsonst sind 99 der 100 größten US-Firmen Citrix-Kunden. Dort wird Graphon kaum Einzug halten können (naja, vielleicht dieser eine letzte, ist glaub ich WalMart).

Übrigens, für den Fall daß das untergeht im Windows-Fieber. Graphon hat auch ein Produkt, um Unix-/Linuxanwendungen auf einem Thin Client abzubilden. Citrix hat sowas erst in der Pipeline, Graphon aber schon Projekte und große Kunden (Alcatel, Ericson) und potente OEM-Kunden wie IBM und SUN. Und natürlich das Patent. Unter dem wesentlichen Gesichtspunkt, mit einer Thin-Client-Lösung auch die notwendige Bandbreite im Netz auf ein Minimum zu reduzieren, ist das ein weiteres Argument für Graphon. Auch X-Windows ist wie MS-Windows ein Bandbreitenfresser.

Graphon ist sicherlich schon gut gegangen, aber vom Top irgendwo bei 24$ doch wieder weit entfernt. Mir ist es im übrigen ziemlich egal - oder sogar vielmehr recht - wenn eine Aktie gut gelaufen ist. Zeigt es doch das Interesse vieler Käufer. BB, warum hast du dir eigentlich Citrix gekauft? Die sind saugut gelaufen. Ich bin wie gesagt bei CTXS seit 65€ (oh, Split, nur noch 32.50€) dabei. Soll ich jetzt verkaufen, weil sie so gut gelaufen sind? Im Citrix-Thread habe ich geschrieben, daß mein Kursziel für Citrix (splitbereinigt) 150€ bis Mitte 2000 ist. Und ich bleibe dabei.

Das mit der Korrektur schwebt latent in der Luft, und vermutlich habt ihr Recht, daß sie kommt. Niemand kann sie aber genau datieren, und langfristig gesehen wird der Techsektor weiter boomen. Also sehe ich doch nicht zu, wie die Kurse 100% und mehr davonrennen, nur um eine 30%-Korrektur zu vermeiden. Graphon hat im übrigen bereits korrigiert.
Natürlich werden Firmen durchs Raster fallen, die die Phantasie der Anleger nicht erfüllen werden. Man sollte also die richtigen rauspicken.

Noch ein Wort zu Citrix: Ich mache es zwar (noch) nicht, aber du kannst mit dieser Aktie wunderbar traden. In einem AMI-Board stand was von einer 13-Tage-Linie, die in diesem Zusammenhang immer halten soll. Geprüft habe ich das aber nicht.

[Boersenbauer]

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[Boersenbauer]

nochmal kurz...ich meinte die Entwicklung der in Deutschland gehandelten Aktie (erst seit Jahresanfang ?) ist etwas mau.
Bei Anleger besteht nu mal Hemmung an der Nasdaq zu kaufen.

BB

[tschernobyl]

Noch zwei Links bezüglich Graphon in China:

http://www.virtualchina.com/finance/index.html

http://www.virtualchina.com/features/1112-graphon.html

[tschernobyl]

Die Party geht in Kürze los:

http://www.insidertrader.com/freestuff/ticker_summary.asp?se…

[tschernobyl]

GraphOn (GOJO) Moves to New, Larger Corporate
Headquarters to Accommodate Company Growth


CAMPBELL, CA - February 25, 2000 -- GraphOn Corporation
(Nasdaq:GOJO) (www.graphon.com), developers of Bridges, web-enabling
software for Windows®, UNIX®, and Linux®, today announced it is moving
its corporate headquarters from Campbell, California to a new, custom
building in Morgan Hill, California in an ongoing effort to accommodate the
company`s current and expected growth. GraphOn`s expansion into a new
headquarters, which is twice as large as the Campbell office, follows the
opening of its international sales and engineering headquarters in Reading,
UK near the end of last year.

"The move to a much larger corporate office is the result of GraphOn`s
growth in the last year and our success as web-enabling pioneers in the
UNIX and Linux software markets," said Robin Ford, Executive Vice
President, Sales and Marketing of GraphOn. "In addition, as we expand into
the much larger Windows market with our Bridges for Windows software, we
will need to increase key personnel. Our new building, which is located in
the beautiful, affordable, and less congested Morgan Hill area of Silicon
Valley, provides GraphOn with the space and environment necessary to
attract talented sales, marketing, and engineering talent."

GraphOn Bridges is a complete, cross-platform application deployment
solution for independent software vendors (ISVs) needing to web-enable their
full-featured Windows, UNIX, and Linux applications. Bridges for Windows is
licensed by Corel Corporation to provide fast access to server-based
Windows applications from Corel® LINUX® OS desktops, and by
Compuware® to instantly web-enable enterprise-level applications deployed
with their UNIFACE® development environment.

As of Monday, February 28, 2000, GraphOn`s corporate headquarters will be
located at 400 Cochrane Circle, Morgan Hill, California 95037. All telephone
and fax numbers will change with the relocation, however, the current
contact numbers will forward automatically for approximately four months.
Email addresses and website URLs will remain the same.

[tschernobyl]

Ships Bridges for Windows 1.0
MORGAN HILL, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 29, 2000--


Web-enabling software allows application developers to deliver full-featured Windows applications over the Internet without rewriting code or third-party add-ons

GraphOn Corporation (Nasdaq:GOJO) (www.graphon.com), a leading innovator of thin, server-based technology, today announced it has begun shipping Bridges for Windows 1.0, a software solution that allows software developers, or independent software vendors (ISVs), to easily and cost effectively web-enable complex, feature-rich Windows applications for full-featured access over the Internet. ISVs can deliver Windows applications across multiple platforms without modifying the application`s code or requiring costly add-ons such as Windows Terminal Server(R).

"Bridges for Windows 1.0 is specifically designed to allow large ISVs, such as our customers Compuware and Corel, to provide fast access to their full-featured Windows applications over the Internet," said GraphOn Executive Vice President, Robin Ford. "Because Bridges is application focused and not integrated into the operating system, we are able to offer ISVs the ability to customize and private label our software, distinct advantages over the competition."

Before GraphOn Bridges, ISVs had to direct their customers requiring server-based access to Windows applications to a third party. By integrating and bundling Bridges with their Windows applications, ISVs are able to maintain account control and web-enable their customer`s Windows applications. Applications deployed through Bridges can be seamlessly integrated with the user`s desktop and accessed through a tiny Java applet, Netscape plug-in, or native Windows and Linux clients.

The Bridges Development Kit provides ISVs with the tools to control and allows processing to be distributed based on the characteristics of their specific application. Developers can dynamically distribute processing between client and server components to maximize performance, scalability, and client integration. This dynamic distribution optimizes the speed and display of the application, while reducing network traffic and server processor load.

GraphOn Bridges is the web-enabling solution that extends Windows(R), UNIX(R), and Linux(R) applications over the Internet with complete application functionality at the desktop. Bridges enables web delivery of new and existing full-featured desktop and server-based applications to multiple client platforms, and provides the development tools to enhance application performance, scalability, and integration with desktop devices.

Bridges for Windows is licensed by Corel Corporation to provide fast access to server-based Windows applications from Corel(R) LINUX(R) OS desktops, and by Compuware(R) to instantly web-enable enterprise-level applications deployed with their UNIFACE(R) Jti development environment.

[tschernobyl]

Hallo,

zwar schon etwas älter, aber trotzdem lesenswert:

http://www.spiegel.de/druckversion/0,1588,51832,00.html

[Plumpaquatch]

Ich freue mich auf Mittwoch :-)
Dann werden die alten Höhe sicher bald wieder erreicht ...
cu
Plumpaquatch


MEDIA ALERT - GRAPHON CORP. TO MAKE MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT

GraphOn Corp. (Nasdaq: GOJO) and Tianjin Development Holdings Ltd. (HKSE Code 882) will host a press conference and invitational Internet teleconference of major international business and technology interest on Wednesday, March 8, 2000.

Top management of both companies will participate in a major announcement and present a demonstration of GraphOn`s cross-platform, web-enabling technology at 12:01a.m. Pacific Time Wednesday, March 8, 2000 [4:01pm Mar 8, 2000 in Hong Kong].

A subsequent international Internet teleconference with both GraphOn and Tianjin management will be available at http://www.vcall.com/ at 6:00a.m. Pacific Time Wed, March 8, 2000 [10:00pm Hong Kong time]. Management invites email questions from press and interested parties prior to, and during the Internet teleconference. Participants will make every attempt to answer as many relevant questions as possible. Email questions may be sent to [e-mail].

In addition, Robin Ford, executive vice president of GraphOn Corp, will be in London on Thursday 9th March and available for interviews. To arrange an interview, please contact Berkeley Public Relations at 01629 826942.

GraphOn Corp., based in Silicon Valley, develops software that allows any display device to run any application over any type of connection, including low bandwidth, dial-up and wireless. GraphOn`s Bridges software instantly web-enables any type of application, including Windows, Linux, and UNIX applications without any software modification.

Tianjin Development Holdings Ltd., a state-owned, publicly traded conglomerate, is engaged in consumer products, operation of ports and roads and industrial machinery in China. The company is also involved in general commercial trading through three wholly-owned subsidiaries in Hong Kong.

[tschernobyl]

Hallo Plumpaquatch!

Die alten Höhen (27$) werden dir am Donnerstag als alte Geschichte
vorkommen, die du irgendwann deinen Enkelchen erzählen wirst. Wenn
ich das richtig verstehe, handelt es sich bei der chinesischen Firma
um eine staatliche. Ich gehe mal davon aus, daß du auch Citrix
verfolgst. Der Run nach der Ankündigung mit Psion hat die Aktie
- ohne es jetzt nachzurechnen - mindestens eine Milliarde $ teurer
gemacht. Ich erwarte ähnliches bei Graphon in kürzester Zeit. Dann
wären wir also bei ca. 100$.

Folge der vermuteten Ankündigung, daß Graphon in China zum
Standard wird, ist, daß sämtliche Firmen, die EDV-mässig mit
China Geschäfte machen wollen, aber keine Kontakte haben,
Graphons Produkte unterstützen werden. Jede dahingehende
Absichtserklärung von Firmen, die auf dem Markt bekannt sind,
wird neue Höhen bringen. Halte mich für verrückt, aber wenn
es das sein sollte, was ich vermute, ist mein Kursziel 500$
innerhalb eines halben Jahres.

China wird an Graphon verhältnismäßig wenig zahlen. Hier machts
natürlich die Masse. Es würde mich aber auch nicht wundern,
wenn Graphon überhaupt nichts bekäme. Aber der Kontakt zu China
ist anschließend Gold wert. Palm, Psion u.s.w. werden sich
bei Graphon die Klinke in die Hand geben.

[CaBul]

ok, freunde bin jetzt auch in euerem club und hoffe meine linux verluste die mir corel und inprise beschert haben wieder ein biszchen reinzubekommen.

was hat gojo eigentlich für eine marktkap. ?

[tschernobyl]

Hallo Cabul,

willkommen im Club. Marktkap. von Graphon bei 25$ ca. 250 Mill.
läppische Dollars.

Quelle:
http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/research/profile.asp?Sy…

[Boersenbauer]

Gratu Tscherno :-)
Läuft ja jetz seit paar Tagen super. Ich hab mich "leider" :-)
nochmal in Rambus und Backweb investiert, wollte nicht zu viel auf einmal verballern. Bin noch am grübeln ob ich Graphon auch noch reinpacke, das is so ne Frage jetzt, ob der Kurs nochmal aufs
Ausbruchsniveau (sagen wir mal 20-22) zurückkommt oder nich oder eben einen senkrechten Strich macht wie Rambus auch schon.
Nach der Chinasache steht Graphon aber ziemlich oben auf meiner Watchlist. Wünsche mir dass der Kurs nochmal zurückkommt und dir dasser weiter geht :-)

Gruss
BB

[tschernobyl]

Danke, BB. Die Gratulation hast du aber sicherlich auch verdient.
Rambus war mir wg. der Speicher zu teuer, ein Irrtum der dich
sicherlich freut.

Backwebs Kooperation mit SAP ist der Hit. Ich hatte Backweb bei
42 aus dem Depot geworfen, war wohl ein Fehler.

Was hast du denn sonst noch auf deinem Radar?

Tscherno

[Boersenbauer]

Naja ok, das mit Rambus war schon auch Glück, wenn du dir den Chart mal anschaust, war ein riesen Seitwärtsdreieck, hatte also Glück dass ich eigentlich "Sekunden" vor dem Ausbruch (76 Euro) das erste mal eingestiegen bin. Die Spekulation ging dahin, dass ich mir sagte, WENN Rambus auf dem Weg zum Speicherstandard werden sollte, dann geht das Teil durch die Decke. Und jetz scheint der Grundstein dazu gelegt.
Spinnt man das ganze weiter, ist Rambus erst am Anfang und selbst jetzt noch billig.
Ok, soviel kurz dazu.
Auf dem Radar hab ich schon noch einiges, natürlich im Biotech Sektor, da hab ich Medimmune (die verdienen schon gut und haben keine zu hohe Marktkapitalisierung), da will ich aber noch aufstocken, entweder nochmal ind MEDI oder einen mittleren Wert, von Biogen, Amgen und Konsorten halt ich nix, die haben zu hohe Kapitalisierung. Das Potential steckt in den kleineren bis mittleren (die aber schon schwarze Zahlen schreiben !) DAS ist übrigens auch mein wichtigstes Entscheidungskriterium. Aus dem Grund (weil zu "gross"), überlegte ich mir auch schon aus Cisco auszusteigen und umschichten, aber ich lass mal Cisco quasi als "stabilen Rentenwert".

Dann denk ich noch an einen andere Branche, nämlich die Internetsicherheit und hier die (leider) schon hoch bewertete Checkpoint Software (CHKP und 901638) oder den Newcomer Rainbow Technologies (RNBO oder 882747).
Gerade die letzten Hackerangriffe waren nahezu eine unfreiwillige Roadshow für die Firmen, die Sicherheitssoftware machen.
Hier ist meines erachtens ein riesen Potential. Die Schwierigkeit ist nur, da noch reinzukommen bzw. in der erhofften Korrektur häppchenweise reinzukaufen (ich mach immer Käufe auf 2 bis 3 Schwünge).

B2B hab ich logischerweise auch (is ja Pflicht ;-) ), da bin ich in Ariba drin, hab die aus dem erlesenen Kreis der Grossen rausgepickt.
Auf der Watchlist steht noch (damit auch mal was deutsches im Depot is ;-) ) die Neuemmission DCI, die jetz rauskommt.
Naja mal abwarten wo die sich setzen, Taxkurs is ja schon über 200%.

Gruss
BB

[tschernobyl]

GraphOn forms joint software venture in China

MORGAN HILL, Calif.- Software maker GraphOn Corp <GOJO.O>. said on Wednesday said would form a joint venture with Hong Kong-based Tianjin Development Holdings Ltd., to sell Graphon products to China`s business-to-business software market.

GraphOn and Tianjin Development have agreed to initially contibute $3.5 million each into the joint venture, GraphOn China Ltd. The company will be half owned by each company, Graphon said.

The joint venture, which follows GraphOn`s recent introduction of its Web software to the Chinese education market, will begin immediately targeting industry, government, and education with Tianjin`s significant existing commercial, financial and trade connections.

"We believe the way to succeed in China is to build a company from the ground up using the Chinese way of thinking and doing business," Walt Keller, GraphOn chief executive and president said in a statement. Shares of Graphon Tuesday closed at 28.

((New York Newsdesk, 212-859-1700))

REUTERS

Rtr 05:15 03-08-00

[tschernobyl]

GraphOn Corp. and Tianjin Development Holdings Ltd. Announce Joint Venture in China; GraphOn China Ltd. to Deliver Web-enabling Technologies to China
HONG KONG and MORGAN HILL, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--March 8, 2000 --GraphOn Corporation (Nasdaq:GOJO) (www.graphon.com), a leading innovator of thin, server-based technology in Silicon Valley, and Tianjin Development Holdings Ltd., state-owned, publicly traded conglomerate based in Hong Kong, today announced they have launched a joint venture called GraphOn China Ltd.

The joint venture will primarily be managed by a team drawn from China`s business and technology communities and is intended to bring GraphOn Bridges(TM) software and other technology solutions to China`s burgeoning business-to-business Internet and software market. GraphOn Corp. and Tianjin Development have agreed to initially infuse $3.5 million each into the joint venture, providing GraphOn China Ltd which will be 50% owned by each company with $7 million in funding.

The joint venture, which follows GraphOn`s recent introduction of its web-enabling software into the Chinese education market, will begin immediately targeting industry, government, and education with Tianjin`s significant existing commercial, financial and trade connections.

"We believe the way to succeed in China is to build a company from the ground up using the Chinese way of thinking and doing business," said Walt Keller, GraphOn CEO and president. "When we met Tianjin Development, we knew there would be great opportunities to work together and deliver our web-enabling software for Windows, UNIX, and Linux, in addition to other complementary technologies to Chinese markets. GraphOn China Ltd. is the first of many joint ventures we plan to build here and in other countries."

In addition to its strong base in infrastructure, international trade and heavy machinery, Tianjin Development Holdings is motivated and seeking opportunities to develop electronics and technology operations. Tianjin recognizes Bridges thin, server-based software as a means to help businesses, government, and education to centralize management of their applications, facilitate their deployment, and utilize current hardware and software investments without requiring costly upgrades. Tianjin believes Bridges will help speed China`s Internet growth and stimulate China`s development of its own indigenous applications, including Linux-based applications.

"We immediately recognized the widespread importance of GraphOn Bridges software," said Wang Guang Hao, Chairman of Tianjin Development. "China is an enormous market with great needs to build a technology infrastructure that delivers productivity to large numbers of people using mixed operating systems over vast distances. We are looking forward to a strong future as GraphOn China brings web-enabling and productivity technologies to China."

GraphOn Bridges is the web-enabling solution that extends Windows(R), UNIX(R), and Linux(R) applications over the Internet with complete application functionality at the desktop. Bridges enables web delivery of new and existing full-featured and server-based applications to multiple client platforms, and provides the development tools to enhance application performance, scalability, and integration with desktop devices. Bridges has recently been licensed to Corel Corporation and Compuware.

About Tianjin Development Holdings Ltd.


Tianjin Development is the only overseas listed conglomerate under the control of the Tianjin Municipal Government. The Group`s principal business operations can be categorized into four general industry sectors, consumer products, infrastructure operations, industrial machinery and general commercial trading. The Group`s consumer products operations consist of the production, sale and distribution of wine products and yarn and textile products. The Group`s infrastructure operations consist of its container handling operations, its stevedoring operations and its ring road operations. The Group`s industrial machinery operations consist of the manufacture and distribution of elevators and escalators. General commercial trading operations include trading of garment and electronic parts.

[tschernobyl]

Hallo Graphon-Freunde!

Die erwarteten Ober-Hammer-News waren das nicht. Ich hatte
einen Abschluß mit höchster Stelle in China erwartet.
Und damit war ich nach dem Primborium, das Graphon
im Vorfeld veranstaltet hatte, nicht alleine. Der Kurs
in den USA spricht Bände.

Nun aber zu den verbliebenen Tatsachen. Ich habe leider
keine Erfahrung, wie westliche Firmen den chinesischen
Markt erreichen können. Der neue Partner von Graphon hat
aber immerhin schon Pepsi und diese Fahrstuhlfirma
(ich glaube Otis oder so) in China etabliert. Und
diese beiden hatten sicherlich ihre Gründe, warum sie
diesen Weg gingen. Das ganze ist aber bestimmt schon eine
Zeit lang her. Vielleicht haben sich die Zeiten geändert.
Habt ihr irgendwelches Hintergrundwissen?

Nach wie vor sehe ich sehr positive Aspekte darin, daß
Graphon jezt sehr viel Aufmerksamkeit erregt hat, und
ähnliche Kooperationen mit westlichen Herstellern ver-
melden könnte wie Citrix. China weckt sehr viele Phantasien,
und damit natürlich auch Spekulationen.

Tscherno

[Darkseeker]

Hi Tscherno,

nichts gegen dein Baby, aber ich glaube die Zocker auf gute News
verlassen gerade das Schiff...
Ich denke wir haben bald wieder eine 1x im Kurs. Dann könnte man noch-
mal gut einsteigen, zumal man nur noch die Interviews von Cowplant
auslegen muss...
Corel hat soeben 300 Mio.$ gespart
Was wird man wohl damit machen? Vielleicht eine Investition in die
Aktie mit der Schlüsseltechnologie...
Tschernobyl, schreib mir doch bitte mal: [e-mail]

CU Darkseeker

http://www.clickto-investorsite.de

[tschernobyl]

Dark, schreib mir doch ins Boardfach.

Tscherno

[tschernobyl]

Hallo zusammen!

Habt ihr die neue Bewertung von Merrill-Lynch zu Corel II
gelesen? Als Schlüsseltechnologie wird Graphons ASP-Software
erwähnt. Ferner wird die Desktop-Zukunft von Linux abhängig
gemacht von zukünftig vorhandenen Anwendungen. Wer die Technik
von Graphon kennt, weiss die Lösung.

Ein Rating für Graphon wird aber keins gegeben. Wie passt das
aber damit zusammen, daß Merrill-Lynch 40.000 Graphon-Aktien
hält? Haben sie die wg. eines Tipps ihrer Putzfrau gekauft?

http://www.insidertrader.com/freestuff/ticker_summary.asp?se…

Tscherno

[tschernobyl]

Noch was zu Graphon und China (im Grunde aber nix Neues):

http://www.virtualchina.com/news/mar00/031000-grapgone-ss-al…



PS: was mir auffällt im WO-Board, ist, daß ständig Inhalte ganzer
Webseiten eingestellt werden. Ein Link dorthin würde aber vollkommen
genügen und ist wg. der Überprüfung des Inhaltes sogar immer
anzuraten. Riesen-Postings machen WO hingegen langsam. Ich
werde zukünftig also nur noch die Links posten.

[tschernobyl]

New York am 13. März 2000: Die ganze Nasdaq ist von den Bären
besetzt. Die ganze Nasdaq? Nicht ganz. Eine kleine Firma
leistet erfolgreich Widerstand.

(frei nach Uderzo und Goscini, oder so ähnlich)

[tschernobyl]

Hallo!

Noch besser als der heutige Anstieg ist das immense Volumen.
Endlich stösst unser Puppy auf breites Interesse. Hoffent-
lich sehen wir dann auch endlich in D größere Volumen.

Tscherno

[home]

graphon steigt in den usa gerade auf 28 $. wir werden sehr bald neue höchstkurse erreichen. bin seit 17$ dabei. ich kann nur raten auch jetzt noch einzusteigen.
viel glück,

euer home

[BÄrtram]

Hi alle zusammen,

es gibt Neueigkeit,

Wednesday March 15, 9:05 am Eastern Time
Company Press Release
GraphOn Corporation - GOJO - Files Lawsuit Against Citrix Systems, Inc. and Insignia Solutions plc
MORGAN HILL, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--March 15, 2000--GraphOn Corporation, (Nasdaq:GOJO - news), (http://www.graphon.com), a leading developer of thin, server-based software products, today filed a lawsuit against Citrix Systems, Inc. and Insignia Solutions plc. for trade secret misappropriation and breach of contract. The lawsuit, filed in California state court, stems from the confidential disclosure of its proprietary technology to Insignia in late 1996, Citrix`s acquisition of certain Insignia technology in February 1998, and Citrix`s integration of that technology into its products.

About GraphOn Corporation

GraphOn`s award-winning Bridges software allows any display device to run any application over any type of connection, including low bandwidth, dial-up and wireless. GraphOn`s products instantly web-enable any type of application, including Windows, Linux, and UNIX applications without any software modification. GraphOn Bridges provides organizations of all types complete freedom of choice today and in the future -- freedom in the choice of applications, operating systems and connectivity framework, while achieving high performance and lower cost. GraphOn, which markets its solutions through OEM licenses, independent software vendors (ISVs), application service providers (ASPs), and system integrators, is headquartered in Silicon Valley and is traded on the Nasdaq under the ticker GOJO (Nasdaq:GOJO - news). For more information, please visit the company`s web site at http://www.graphon.com.

This press release contains statements that are forward looking as that term is defined by the United States Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are based on current expectations that are subject to risks and uncertainties. Actual results will differ due to factors such as shifts in customer demand, product shipment schedules, product mix, competitive products and pricing, technological shifts and other variables. Readers are referred to GraphOn`s most recent periodic and other reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.


Mal schauen wie es ausgeht (wird aber sicher den Bekanntheitsgrad von Graphon steigern)

Ciao Bärtram

[tschernobyl]

Hallo zusammen!

Bärtram, ich habe im Citrix-Thread von erfg einige Links
eingestellt, die die Klage Graphons gegen Citrix zum Thema
haben. Der Text auf der Insignia-Seite ist mir aber ziemlich
unverständlich. Verstehst du das Kauderwelsch?

Ich bin als Aktionär von beiden Firmen natürlich nicht so
glücklich über diese Klage. Meine Meinung ist aber, daß für
Graphon außer der von dir angesprochen Bekanntheitssteigerung
nicht viel übrig bleibt. Ich hoffe auf eine außergerichtliche
Einigung. Die Umstände müssen schon länger bekannt sein. Warum
Graphon erst jetzt geklagt hat, bleibt zu ergründen. Vielleicht
fehlte ihnen das Geld, oder Citrix`s Markteinführung von
Metaframe für SUN (ist diese Tage erfolgt) brachte das Fass
zum überlaufen. Auf jeden Fall bleibt es spanndend.

Tscherno

[BÄrtram]

Hi Tscherno,

also wenn ich das richtig verstanden habe, hat Graphon gegen beide Klage erhoben, wegen Vertragsbruch.
Viel mehr steht ja nicht drin, aber das sie die Klage nun eingericht haben ist doch erstmal was, ich hoffe halt bloss, der die vermehrte Diskussion Graphon was bringt (ich glaube nicht, dass es Citrix so sehr schaden wird, denn sie sind wesentlich größer) aber im Endeffekt wäre mir ein friedliches Nebeneinander am liebsten.
Mehr weiss ich auch nicht.
Schönes Wochenende.

Bärti

[tschernobyl]

Hallo Graphon-Freunde!

An dunklen Börsentagen was aufheiterendes von Graphon. Das
Team formiert sich, nach Bob Dilworth mit William D. Swain
ein weiterer Ex-Manager von Metricom:

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/000321/ca_graphon_1.html

[tschernobyl]

?

[tschernobyl]

Hallo!

Haben alle das sinkende Schiff verlassen?

http://www.aspisland.com/interviews/doc.asp?qid=IV87887Q1

[BÄrtram]

hey tscherno,

nein es sind noch nicht alle von Bord, ich bleibe auch erstmal drin, ziel ist es, das erste Jahr zu ueberstehen (nervlich). Und da ich denke, dass sie bis dahin wieer ein paar mehr Käufer gefunden hat, bleibe ich bei Graphon.
Aber es wurden so ziemlich alle meine Aktien in der letzten Woche auf Tiefflug gebracht, aber nun geht es ja hoffentlich wieer aufwärts, die Ansätze sind ja schon da.
Also abwarten und Tee trinken.

Ciao Bärtram

[tschernobyl]

Hi Bärtram!

Graphon kann einen wirklich Nerven kosten. Ich hoffe, dass
demnächst positive Meldungen kommen. Das Interview kann einem
auch nicht mehr als die schon bekannte Hoffnung geben. Nachwievor
bin ich aber der Meinung, dass wir mit Graphon sehr sehr sehr
viel Spass haben werden - oder das Geld abschreiben können.

Tscherno

[BÄrtram]

Hey Tscherno,

mit dem Abschreiben von Verlusten ist das so ein Problem, wer keine Steuern zu zahlen hat, kann auch nichts wieder kriegen und bis jetzt liege ich noch weit unter den 6500 EUR Existenzminimum.
Also bauen wir lieber auf den Spass beim Geldverdienen.

Ciao Bärtram

[tschernobyl]

Hallo Bärtram!

Dann drücke ich uns beiden mal fest die Daumen. Heute sieht es
in den USA ziemlich gut aus. Ich denke, Graphon profitiert von
den positiven Analysen zu Citrix. Sorgen mache ich mir aber, weil
Graphon keine Abschlüsse mit ASPs meldet. Da sollte in Kürze etwas
kommen, sonst werde ich ungeduldig.

Tscherno

[tschernobyl]

Da scheint mich doch jemand erhört zu haben.

Grüsse
Tschernobyl


GraphOn and GoldMine Announce Licensing Agreement to Web-Enable HEAT and CRM Software Applications

MORGAN HILL, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--April 17, 2000--GraphOn Corporation, (Nasdaq: GOJO) (www.graphon.com), developers of Bridges web-enabling software, today announced an OEM licensing agreement with GoldMine Software Corporation. The agreement will allow GoldMine to use Bridges software to web-enable all of its HEAT family of products and customer relationship management (CRM) products, including the company`s award winning applications HEAT(R) and GoldMine(R) FrontOffice 2000(TM). GoldMine will be able to provide users with server-based access to their applications from any location in the world, with complete functionality across multiple platforms and networks, and without modifying the application`s code or requiring costly add-ons.

The first web-enabled application scheduled for release is GoldMine`s HEAT service optimization software. According to the agreement, GoldMine has licensed GraphOn`s Bridges software to web-enable GoldMine`s entire family of software applications, including GoldMine FrontOffice 2000, the industry`s first CRM solution for the broad mid-market. GoldMine management also intends to expand its per seat licensing of Bridges technology to enable the new application service provider (ASP) market to rent GoldMine business solutions over the Internet.

"GraphOn`s Bridges for Windows provided GoldMine with the means to quickly, seamlessly and effectively meet the increasing demand for full featured, web-enabled access to HEAT and CRM solutions," said GoldMine Divisional President, Edwin Gear. "We can now give organizations a complete set of business tools and a distinct competitive advantage by extending the full functionality of GoldMine`s solutions to anyone in the world with a web browser and Internet connection. This is about optimizing our solutions in a way that is easy to install and use, and extends the use of our systems through the web as a key user interface."

"I`m very excited about our agreement with GoldMine Software, which has a potential value of several million dollars. Our web-enabling technology is designed to provide software developers, such as GoldMine, with the ability to quickly and seamlessly create server-based, or web-enabled, versions of their applications," said GraphOn CEO and President, Walt Keller. "GraphOn`s Bridges will enable GoldMine to provide mission-critical business solutions that can be accessed from any desktop or web browser, over any remote connection, including the Internet or dial-up, anywhere in the world."

The HEAT Division of GoldMine Software Corporation focuses on integrated solutions that allow businesses to proactively support customers and manage assets through their entire life cycle, from procurement to help desk support to retirement. Its flagship product, HEAT is an automatic call logging and tracking system that includes asset management, telephony integration, self service and knowledge management. It supports Microsoft Access, Microsoft SQL Server, Oracle, and Sybase databases. The GoldMine Customer Relationship Management Division focuses on integrated front office solutions for sales, marketing and customer service for small- to mid-sized businesses. The GraphOn Bridges web-enabled version of HEAT is expected to be released in second quarter 2000.

GraphOn Bridges allows independent software vendors (ISVs) to easily and cost effectively web-enable their existing complex, feature-rich Windows(R), UNIX(R), and Linux(R) applications for access over the Internet. ISVs can deliver server-based versions of applications with the same functionality as desktop versions across multiple platforms without modifying the application`s code or requiring costly add-ons.

About GoldMine Software Corp.


Founded in 1989, and headquartered in Colorado Springs, Colorado, GoldMine is a leading, worldwide developer and supplier of software solutions for customer relationship management and support management solutions for small- to medium-sized businesses. GoldMine products have been implemented by more than 700,000 users worldwide with the assistance of its approximately 1,500 Value-Added Resellers. For more information on GoldMine`s CRM products, please call [phone], FAX [phone] and sales can be reached at [phone] or visit www.goldmine.com. For more information on GoldMine`s HEAT family of products, please call [phone], FAX [phone] or visit www.heatsoftware.com.

[tschernobyl]

Hallo zusammen!

Wieder etwas neues (wenn auch nur ne neue Beta) von Winbridge. Wer technisch die Sache mit Citrix`s Metaframe vergleicht, wird signifikante Unterschiede feststellen.

http://www.graphon.com/News/pr-bridgesbeta11.html


Grüsse

Tschernobyl

[tschernobyl]

GraphOn -- GOJO -- and Compaq China Announce Partnership to Provide Complete Computing Solutions
to China

BEIJING, China/MORGAN HILL, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 13, 2000--GraphOn Corporation, (Nasdaq:GOJO)
www.graphon.com, developers of Bridges web-enabling software, and Compaq China today announced they have entered into
an agreement to promote and develop joint market opportunities for their technologies in China.

GraphOn and Compaq China also agreed to leverage each other`s technology partnerships to expand their offerings and provide
comprehensive hardware and software solutions for China`s education, government and general markets.

"With the recent interest from the Chinese government in implementing an Internet and Linux strategy throughout the nation,
GraphOn and Compaq China have a great opportunity to engage in the necessary business strategy to capture a significant
market share in China," said Fanny Chan, Director of Marketing, Compaq China. "GraphOn has the technology to web-enable
applications from any platform to any desktop while Compaq has the complete hardware solution to support server-based
computing. Both companies also have excellent technology relationships they can bring to the table to serve all private and public
sectors in China."

"Compaq offers a variety of excellent hardware products ranging from sophisticated servers to thin client devices," said GraphOn
Vice President of Business Development, Eric Lefebvre. "Compaq not only offers an excellent platform for central management
of server-based applications, but also features a selection of cost-effective client-side hardware options. When coupled with
GraphOn Bridges web-enabling software, together we can help China quickly and cost-effectively expand the reach of
information, productivity and education applications to more people."

GraphOn will expand its existing activities in China by incorporating Compaq China into the various projects that GraphOn is
working on with the Ministry of Education in China. GraphOn has already showcased its web-enabling software technology to
the Ministry and gained distribution rights for Corel Corporation` WordPerfect(R) Office 2000 for Linux(R) and Windows(R)
platforms and Corel(R) LINUX(R) OS for the desktop in China`s education market.

As part of the joint marketing agreement, Compaq will host GraphOn Bridges software on Compaq servers to demonstrate
server-based application management and deployment of web-enabled applications to Compaq thin client devices during
presentations in Beijing and other areas throughout China. The companies will showcase their technologies together during the
upcoming Compaq Solutions Tour and will pursue other co-marketing activities including seminars, tradeshows and other
exhibits targeting technology buyers and users.

[tschernobyl]

Ich habe mich von allen Schocks erholt und poste mal die aufgelaufenen News zu Graphon. Am 8. August kommen die Zahlen. Ist von euch eigentlich noch jemand investiert?

Tscherno

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GraphOn Corp. to Market Bridges Web-Enabling Software in Japan
MORGAN HILL, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 31, 2000--

Company to Build Distribution Channels in Japan Through Strategic Alliances with ISVs, ASPs, and Major Industry Partners

GraphOn Corporation, (Nasdaq:GOJO) (www.graphon.com), developers of web-enabling software for Windows, UNIX, and Linux applications, today announced it will introduce its Bridges software to Japan`s independent software vendor (ISV) and application service provider (ASP) markets through a series of relationships with market leaders and alliances with multinational technology providers.

In keynote speeches this past week at the ASP Asia Conference and at ICe (Internet Commerce Expo) in Hong Kong, GraphOn business partner, Mr. Toshio Matsuda, President and CEO of Research Institute for Computer Science (RICS), announced a joint business development agreement with GraphOn Corp. Mr. Matsuda also serves as Vice President of ASP Industry Consortium of Japan, and is President and CEO of several information technology companies including RICS and kitASP.

"In an increasingly web-centric and server-based world, GraphOn Bridges software provides the solution for challenges facing ISVs, ASPs, and ISPs needing to quickly and cost-effectively deploy applications across multiple platforms and network connections," said Toshio Matsuda. "We are currently engaged in discussions with a number of major technology companies including some of Japan`s leading software developers, hardware vendors, and service providers interested in using Bridges to deliver web-enabled Windows, UNIX and Linux applications to PCs and Internet-connected devices."

"Clearly there are current needs among ISVs, ASPs and infrastructure companies in Japan that GraphOn can address immediately with Bridge," said GraphOn Director of Business Development, Jerry Landry. "Through kitASP, RICS and other anticipated key business alliances, GraphOn`s expansion into Japan`s ASP, enterprise, SOHO and consumer markets will also help build the foundation for future growth throughout Asia with server, PC, handheld, wireless and even game and set top box device vendors."

GraphOn`s Bridges for Windows v1.1 for OEMs was released last month and includes support for Japanese NT and Windows 2000. For more information on Bridges for Windows, download the newly released Bridges for Windows white paper from GraphOn`s website at: http://www.graphon.com. Or, visit GraphOn in booth No. 506 at the upcoming Sybase TechWave 2000 conference July 30 through August 3, in Lake Buena Vista, Florida.

About RICS and Mr. Toshio Matsuda


In addition to his role as President and CEO of RICS and other companies, Mr. Toshio Matsuda has over 25 years experience in the IT field and is a professor of Computer Science in the department of Management and Information at Yamanashi Gakuin University. Mr. Matsuda has been working for the Ministry of Posts and Telecommunications creating the Next Generation Internet Policy and is leader of the Internet Governance Task Force that is establishing the Internet Domain Management Policy in Japan.

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GraphOn Corp. Bridges Highlighted in SIIA Digital Trends Report
MORGAN HILL, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 25, 2000--


Software and Information Industry Association Features Case Study of GraphOn Web-Enabling Software in Action

GraphOn Corporation, (Nasdaq:GOJO)(www.graphon.com), developers of Bridges web-enabling software for Windows, UNIX, and Linux applications, was selected for The Trends Report 2000, (http://www.trendsreport.net/), an analysis of six key trends shaping the digital economy just released by the Software and Information Industry Association (http://www.siia.net).

The case study in the SIIA report (http://www.trendsreport.net/software/graphon.html) features the use of GoldMine Software`s iHEAT application by the City and County of Denver`s Help Desk service team. GoldMine licensed GraphOn Bridges to create a new, web-enabled product, iHEAT, identical to the desktop version. Now, Denver support technicians can interact with customer histories in a connected Oracle database from any Internet connection anywhere in the field to support hundreds of computer users throughout its many offices.

GraphOn`s relationship with GoldMine Software demonstrates how independent software vendors (ISVs) can expand their markets and provide their customers with cost savings and the convenience of centralized software management by web-enabling applications either for customers` in-house deployment or rental from application service providers (ASPs). By licensing GraphOn Bridges, GoldMine`s HEAT division was able to deliver a web-enabled version of its HEAT Help Desk software within six weeks, without changing the application`s look and feel and without altering the code or diverting users to any third party hardware or software.

"We believe GraphOn is one of the leaders in shaping the digital economy," said President of the Software and Information Industry Association, Ken Wasch. "The kind of web-enabling GraphOn provides will play a key role in Software as a Service, one of the ways we believe the digital economy will change the way people learn, shop, conduct business, interact with computers and access reliable information."

"GraphOn shares the vision of the SIIA. We are dedicated to developing technology that helps ISVs market products that simplify access to business-critical applications over any connection, including dial-up, network and of course, the Internet," said GraphOn Executive Vice President, Robin Ford. "By web-enabling new and legacy desktop software applications using GraphOn Bridges, independent software vendors (ISVs) can accelerate the time to market of web-enabled versions of their application without the risks and delays associated with rewriting the application for the web."

GraphOn Bridges quickly integrates with existing 32-bit Windows applications and gives ISVs turnkey out-of-the-box web-enabled versions of software applications with their own branding for licensed, volume distribution to enterprise customers to deploy in-house over dial-up, LANs or WANs or for rent over the Internet by application service providers.

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GraphOn and China`s RedFlag Software Team Up to Provide Complete Linux Solution

BEIJING, China and MORGAN HILL, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 20, 2000--

Bridges Web-enabling Software Will Deliver Windows(R)
Applications to China`s Most Popular Linux OS


GraphOn Corporation, (Nasdaq: GOJO), (www.graphon.com), developers of Bridges web-enabling software, and China`s RedFlag Software Co., Ltd., providers of China`s most popular Linux distribution, today announced an agreement to jointly develop business and marketing opportunities in China. In addition to plans for mutual market development in government, telecommunications, business and education in China, the companies are initiating plans to enable Red Flag Linux desktops to run Windows applications remotely. A component of GraphOn Bridges will be included in the desktop distribution of Red Flag Linux, creating a ready platform for users to access and run Windows applications that have been web-enabled with the server component of GraphOn Bridges for Windows software.

GraphOn and RedFlag Software have committed to expanding their relationship and including other technology providers to the Linux solutions the two companies have initiated. RedFlag will host and demonstrate GraphOn Bridges with RedFlag Software`s Linux at customer sites and on RedFlag Software`s own servers and desktops. The agreement includes the development of a joint business plan to aggressively pursue the China market and promote awareness through public events, seminars and trade shows. Earlier this week, GraphOn announced a similar agreement with Compaq China.

"GraphOn has already made an impressive foray into China," said RedFlag CEO, Liu Bo. "Given GraphOn`s many relationships and head start in China`s education market, and RedFlag`s strengths and relationships in government, telecom and financial sectors, together we have countless opportunities to develop markets that are perfect for Red Flag Linux and the many benefits GraphOn web-enabling software brings to cross-platform, server-based computing."

"The GraphOn-RedFlag partnership gives China`s schools, business and government the freedom to choose the applications and operating systems they want and need," said GraphOn President and CEO, Walt Keller. "Together, we offer China a swift migration path to the economy and open source advantages of Linux while still providing seamless access to necessary Windows applications." About RedFlag Software Co. Ltd.

RedFlag Software Co., Ltd. is a leading company of Linux distributions and applications in China, which is headquartered in Beijing. RedFlag Software`s products include Linux server, desktop and embedded systems. RedFlag Software also provides many applications to end users for achieving security, high availability and performance. For more information, please visit http://www.redflag-linux.com.

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GraphOn -- GOJO -- Licenses Bridges for UNIX to HP to Web-enable New HP ServiceControl Manager
MORGAN HILL, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 14, 2000--


GraphOn (GOJO) Web-enabling Software Lets Users Manage HP-UX Networks from Any Windows(R) PC

GraphOn Corporation (Nasdaq:GOJO) (www.graphon.com), developer of Bridges Web-enabling software, today announced that Hewlett-Packard Company (NYSE:HWP) has licensed and integrated GraphOn Bridges for UNIX into the new HP ServiceControl Manager.

HP ServiceControl Manager, introduced today, is a suite of high-powered management tools for multiple HP-UX based HP 9000 servers. HP ServiceControl Manager can be used for central, consistent and highly scalable management of huge numbers of HP UX servers from any Internet-connected Windows(R) PC. GraphOn Bridges for UNIX provides a Web-based GUI for the x-window based integrated tools within ServiceControl Manager.

With GraphOn Bridges, any Windows(R) PC running Internet Explorer 4.01 or later, or Netscape 4.5 or later can use the suite of powerful tools in HP ServiceControl Manager to administer large networked systems of HP-UX servers in multiple clusters of up to 64 managed nodes from any Internet connection.

Today, a substantial portion of the cost of maintaining a server can be tied to administration. When a system goes down, 40 percent of the time it`s caused not by failure of technology or applications, but by the incorrect actions of the system`s operators or administrators. HP ServiceControl Manager with its role-based security capability improves the efficiency and reduced downtime caused by operator error and old-fashioned node-by-node management. It extends the reach of system management tools from single nodes to entire systems of networked clusters, allowing a single server to manage more HP-UX servers than ever before.

"We believe GraphOn Web-enabling some of HP`s ServiceControl Manager integrated tools will add unprecedented convenience to any IT department dealing with systems administration," said Worldwide Marketing Director for Business Critical Computing, Mark Hudson. "HP ServiceControl Manager is designed to reinforce the processes and best practices of effective IT management by centralizing administration and enabling single management tasks to be executed on multiple systems."

"GraphOn Bridges` thin client, server-based architecture means a system manager can take charge, even from off-site locations where the administrator has only a modest Windows laptop and a standard phone line," said GraphOn CEO and President, Walt Keller. "While HP provides highly reliable and sophisticated network hardware and software, GraphOn provides a Web access to some of HP`s powerful administration tools integrated with ServiceControl Manager to manage HP-UX networked systems efficiently, any time, anywhere."

HP`s ServiceControl Manager integrates the key products of the HP-UX ServiceControl system management tool suite such as System Administration Manager (SAM), Ignite/UX, Software Distributor (SD/UX), System Configuration Repository (SCR), Event Monitoring Service (EMS) and Common HP-UX commands.

[tschernobyl]

Hallo zusammen!

Graphon wird ab heute im "richtigen" Nasdaq gehandelt, was fast zwangsläufig zu einer Analystenbewertung führen wird. Hoffentlich gibts dann auch mal in D etwas mehr Umsatz.

Die Zahlen sind hinsichtlich des Umsatzes hinter meinen Erwartungen von ca. 2.5 Mill. $ mit nur 1.8 Mill. stark zurückgeblieben. Erklärt wird dies mit Verzögerungen bei den OEM-Kunden. Die jetzt fehlenden Einnahmen sollen aber im laufenden Quartal zu einer hübschen Steigerung führen. Am prognostizierten Jahresumsatz von 10 Mill. wird aber weiterhin festgehalten. Ich will`s hoffen.

Ferner gibts mit Cancom einen neuen OEM-Kunden.

Die Meldungen im Original:

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GraphOn Corp. to Trade on Nasdaq National Market

MORGAN HILL, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 8, 2000--GraphOn Corporation, (Nasdaq: GOJO) (www.graphon.com), developers of Bridges web-enabling software for Windows, UNIX, and Linux applications, announced it will begin trading on the Nasdaq National Market(R) when the market opens tomorrow Wednesday, August 9, 2000. GraphOn which has been trading on The Nasdaq SmallCap Market(SM) since August 1999, filed for National Market listing early this year after meeting the requirements for qualification. The Company will continue to trade under the ticker symbol GOJO.

"We`re delighted about trading on the National Market and consider it an exciting milestone for GraphOn and our shareholders," said Walt Keller, GraphOn`s CEO. "I feel confident that this move will provide GraphOn with the exposure needed to attract institutional interest and analyst coverage that will help increase liquidity and grow shareholder value."

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GraphOn Corp. Reports Results for Second Quarter 2000

MORGAN HILL, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 8, 2000--GraphOn Corporation (Nasdaq: GOJO) (www.graphon.com) today reported revenues of approximately $1.8 million for its second quarter ended June 30, 2000, as compared to approximately $707,000 recorded in the second quarter of 1999, and revenues of $3.6 million for the six month period ended June 30, 2000, as compared to approximately $1.3 million for the comparable period in the prior year. The net loss for the current quarter was approximately $1.8 million as compared to the approximate $2.0 million loss for the second quarter of 1999 and an approximate loss of $2.7 million for the six month period ended June 30, 2000 as compared to a net loss of approximately $4.0 million for the same period in the previous year. The loss per common share on a basic and diluted basis for the current quarter was $0.12 per share as compared with a loss of $0.22 per share for the same period in the previous year and a loss of $0.19 per share for the six month period ended June 30, 2000 as compared to a loss of $0.45 per share for the comparable period in the prior year. All references to share and per share data for all periods presented have been adjusted to reflect the July 12, 1999 merger of GraphOn and Unity First Acquisition Corporation.

"We are highly confident of our growth as providers of web-enabling technology to ever-increasing numbers of independent software vendors who share our vision of the strong future of server-based computing and the emerging ASP channel," said Walt Keller, president and CEO of GraphOn Corporation. "We are pleased with our strong cash position and growth of shareholder equity in excess of $10 million over the period ending December 1999. We intend to continue to grow our intellectual property holdings and further strengthen our future by adding new experienced leaders to our top management team who can implement new sales programs quickly and effectively. Current sales initiatives in the U.S. and in Europe will continue through licensing agreements, strategic alliances and partnerships that now include China and Japan where we have been building relationships to help expedite GraphOn`s penetration of enterprise, education and government sectors," Keller said.

By combining GraphOn Bridges with desktop versions of software applications, independent software vendors (ISVs), such as GraphOn customers Compuware and GoldMine, can accelerate their time to market of web-enabled versions of their application without the risks and delays associated with rewriting the application or using third party solutions. GraphOn Bridges quickly integrates with existing applications without sacrificing the full-featured look and feel of the original application, providing ISVs with out-of-the-box web-enabled versions of software applications with their own branding for licensed, volume distribution to enterprise customers or for rent over the Internet by application service providers (ASPs).

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Wednesday August 9, 8:28 am Eastern Time
Press Release
GraphOn Corp.--GOJO--Signs Licensing Agreement for Bridges Software With Cincom Systems
MORGAN HILL, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 9, 2000--GraphOn Corporation, (Nasdaq:GOJO - news; www.graphon.com), developers of Bridges web-enabling software for Windows, UNIX, and Linux applications, today announced it has signed a licensing and technology agreement with international independent business software solutions provider, Cincom Systems. The three-year licensing agreement, with a potential value of up to $17.5 million, enables Cincom to immediately private-label GraphOn Bridges software to transparently web-enable all Cincom applications, including sales force automation, manufacturing, e-commerce, ERP, CRM and document management. Cincom`s ASP division, CinAPPS, will offer the applications for rent as part of its total outsourcing services to customers anywhere in the world for use on any PC, laptop or Internet-connected device, without the need for any additional hardware or third party software add-ons.

After offering software as a product in the 1960`s, when it was common to give enterprise software away with hardware, Cincom established a full-service software firm, that included manufacturing and financial applications, as well as database and online system software. Recognized by BusinessWeek as one of eight leading privately held software companies, Cincom offers one of the most comprehensive product lines for organizations today.

``GraphOn`s Bridges allows us to web-enable our applications quickly and smoothly,`` said General Manager of Cincom CinAPPS, Patrick Dowling. ``With GraphOn Bridges we will minimize our time to market and can offer feature rich web-enabled applications immediately with the same look and feel our customers have grown to expect, without some of the limitations of traditional web front-ends, or the expense and complexity of rewriting our applications from the ground up.``

By combining GraphOn Bridges with desktop versions of software applications, independent software vendors (ISVs), such as Cincom, can accelerate the time to market of web-enabled versions of their application without the risks and delays associated with rewriting the application or using third party solutions. GraphOn Bridges quickly integrates with existing Windows applications without sacrificing the full-featured look and feel of the original application, providing ISVs with out-of-the-box web-enabled versions of software applications with their own branding for licensed, volume distribution to enterprise customers or for rent over the Internet by application service providers (ASPs).

``Cincom is the classic example of the GraphOn customer, a top-ranking ISV looking to move existing enterprise-level applications to the Internet quickly, while maintaining account control and product branding,`` said Robin Ford, Executive Vice President of GraphOn Corp. ``By web-enabling their critically acclaimed software using GraphOn Bridges, Cincom can offer their customers the flexibility and cost savings of web-enabled applications, while retaining the their own full-featured functionality and branding. They`re able to build their leadership position in software and professional services by providing their applications over the Internet, through the ASP model, quickly, cost-effectively and without the need to re-train users.``

[tschernobyl]

GraphOn Corp. -- GOJO -- Introduces Bridges for Linux 1.1 at LinuxWorld; Bridges Web-enabling Software
Helps Linux Software Developers Penetrate Windows-Only Markets

MORGAN HILL and SAN JOSE, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 15, 2000-- (LinuxWorld Expo, booth no. 1342) GraphOn
Corporation, (www.graphon.com)(Nasdaq:GOJO), developers of Bridges web-enabling software, today announced it will unveil its
Bridges for Linux and UNIX version 1.1 at LinuxWorld Expo giving attendees a first-hand look at their solution for delivering Linux
applications to any operating system over any connection. GraphOn Bridges technology web-enables any Linux, UNIX or Windows
application and offers a cross-platform solution for users who want to utilize Linux and Windows server-based applications.

GraphOn Bridges for Linux and UNIX 1.1 integrates with applications seamlessly, enabling independent software vendors (ISVs) to
create out-of-the-box Linux products that can be served to any Internet-connected display device, Macintosh or Windows PC over
Internet connections, dial-up or private networks at the enterprise level or via application services providers (ASPs). GraphOn
Bridges for Linux and UNIX 1.1 is scheduled to begin shipping in September 2000.

"GraphOn`s Bridges technology offers Linux users the best of all worlds," said GraphOn President and CEO Walt Keller. "Bridges
lets people who want the cost-effectiveness, stability and open architecture advantages of Linux servers run their Linux applications
over any connection on their Java devices, Windows PCs, laptops, and other Linux or non-Linux desktops, all without re-writing a
single line of application code. We believe our technology can play a vital role in helping Linux application developers penetrate
substantial markets that until now have been strictly Windows."

"There is clear evidence of gravitation toward open source and pressure on the closed source community to consider Linux as part of
its product mix," said Robert Sutherland, analyst for Technology Business Research Inc., a New Hampshire-based computer and
networking industry research and consulting firm. "Companies such as GraphOn who are coming to market with technology that
allows integration across platforms may be actively contributing to the adoption of Linux since the commercial success of Linux hinges
largely on the ability to integrate with Windows and other operating systems."

GraphOn Bridges combines with existing Windows, UNIX and Linux software applications to create web-enabled versions without
sacrificing the full-featured look and feel of the original application. GraphOn Bridges provides all the convenience of server-based
computing while facilitating application delivery across operating systems to even the most modest PCs or Internet-connected devices
over virtually any connection.

GraphOn is working with Linux hardware vendors, such as Compaq China, and operating system companies as well as Linux
application developers. In recent announcements, GraphOn and China`s RedFlag Software Co., Ltd., providers of China`s most
popular Linux distribution, formed a joint marketing agreement and announced plans to enable Red Flag Linux desktops to run
Windows applications remotely. GraphOn also signed an exclusive agreement with Corel Corporation (CORL) to market and
distribute WordPerfect Office 2000 for the Windows and Linux platforms and Corel LINUX OS for the desktop as part of
GraphOn`s planned solution for China`s educational system.

Earlier this year, GraphOn also signed a licensing agreement with Corel to integrate GraphOn`s Bridges into Corel LINUX OS, to
provide Corel LINUX OS users with the first complete desktop Linux operating system to run Windows applications unchanged and
seamlessly over any connection.

[tschernobyl]

Noch jemand an Board?

GraphOn Corp. Licenses Patent to Network Computing Devices

MORGAN HILL, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 3, 2000--GraphOn Corporation, (Nasdaq: GOJO), (http://www.graphon.com), developers of thin, server-based software for Windows(R), UNIX(R), and Linux(R) applications, today announced it has licensed US Patent 5,831,609 entitled "Method and System for Dynamic Translation between Different Graphical User Interface Systems," which allows for the remote display of applications developed for Microsoft Windows(R) on X Window System devices, to Network Computing Devices, Inc. (NCD).

About NCD


Founded in 1988, Network Computing Devices, Inc. supplies information access and management products that extend server-based computing to give customers a competitive edge and a better bottom line. Over 1 million NCD thin clients are installed with over 3 billion hours of operation. The company can be reached on the Internet at http://www.ncd.com.

[tschernobyl]

Als Erläuterung zur Lizenzzahlung:


GraphOn Sues Citrix & Insignia over UnixFrame, Asks for Injunction
By Maureen O`Gara

On Monday Citrix productized "UnixFrame," the formally christened MetaFrame for Unix kit that`s been kicking around in beta for a while.

On Tuesday GraphOn, which has been biding its time waiting for the right moment, filed suit against both Citrix and Insignia, which sold Citrix the underlying UnixFrame technology, charging them both with misappropriation of trade secrets and unfair competition. It wants the stuff enjoined - both a preliminary and a permanent injunction - and it wants unspecified damages including court costs.

The case has been filed in Superior Court in Santa Clara, California and represents the failure of years of on-again, off-again negotiations between GraphOn and Citrix, including some that were reportedly held just recently. On a guess we say that whatever was offered wasn`t enough.

The story actually begins and ends with Sun Microsystems, which back in the summer of 1996 encouraged Insignia, whose technology it was then eyeing to run Windows apps on its gear, and GraphOn, whose technology is currently bundled in iPlanet, to get together. They did and the conversation immediately turned to the idea of Insignia acquiring GraphOn. GraphOn was willing and proceeded to disclose its technology to Insignia under a nondisclosure agreement attached to the suit as Exhibit A. There was also a follow-on Technology Collaboration Agreement that goes much to same point as the NDA that is now Exhibit B in the suit.

GraphOn says it was specifically told by Insignia during the negotiations that Insignia had no Unix-based thin client software in development.

The merger negotiations fell through by early 1997 and GraphOn subsequently learned that Insignia was developing a knockoff product dubbed Keoke 2 that would provide Unix connectivity to thin clients. In January of 1998 GraphOn sent Insignia a letter requesting confirmation that it had not improperly used GraphOn technology in its software.

A few days later Insignia sold its NTrigue product line to Citrix for almost $17.7 million. Some of Insignia`s key engineers went to work for what is now Citrix Systems UK Ltd. Because of GraphOn`s letter half of the proceeds from the sale, $8.75 million, was put into an escrow account to cover any potential liability by Citrix to GraphOn for misappropriating trade secrets.

GraphOn is now saying in its suit that that is exactly what happened although it`s unclear whether it`s limiting its damages claim to just the $8.75 million. It alleges that Insignia, which it is charging separately with breach of contract, played fast and loose with its proprietary ultra-low bandwidth RapidX protocol, its terse rendition of the verbose X and its scheme for keeping X on the server while making 28.8 modems a practical conduit to clients. As a matter of fact its lawsuit claims outright that Insignia sold GraphOn`s technology to Citrix.

GraphOn CEO Walt Keller says he wouldn`t be suing unless he thought he had a valid claim because of the expense. He declined to discuss the evidence or whether it was gleaned from the MetaFrame for Unix beta.

Citrix first tried to get the misappropriation issue laid to rest by suing GraphOn in December 1998 and trying to get a Florida court to decide (CSN No 285). It wanted binding assurances in the form of a declaratory judgment that GraphOn wouldn`t up and sue it some day. It also made an indemnity claim against Insignia for as much as $6.25 million. The case against GraphOn was ultimately dismissed when the court declared there was no controversy.

Keller said at the time that Citrix had offered him $100,000 basically to go away. In their negotiations they could never agree on the ground rules for bringing in a third party to vet the Citrix code. GraphOn was concerned the expert wouldn`t know what he was looking for and didn`t want to be surprised if Citrix eventually productized Keoke 2. Naturally GraphOn was thinking of the upside in damages.

Oh, yes, we did say that the story ends as well as begins with Sun. Well, the litigious ICA-based MetaFrame for Unix, tested in places like Deutsche Bank and the Mayo Foundation, is only for Solaris right now and follows the same pricing model as MetaFrame for Windows, five grand for 15 concurrent users. It enables the delivery and Windows, Java and Unix applications to a single portal and Citrix was counting on it to expand its hegemony, especially with ASPs apparently. Citrix says user licenses for the Windows and Unix products can be interchanged.

Citrix is supposed to extend the new family to Linux, and Caldera, SuSE and TurboLinux have voiced their support as have Compaq on behalf of Tru64 Unix and HP for HP-UX.

Meanwhile, we`re still waiting for GraphOn to defend the patent it bought giving it rights to the technology underlying displaying Windows applications on both Unix and Linux desktops. It would allegedly involve anywhere X Windows is used. It is believed GraphOn will demand royalties from such as Citrix, Sun and IBM as well as the Windows terminals vendors such as NCD and Wyse (CSN No 326).

http://www.g2news.com/BackIssuesCSN/CSN342.html

[JohannesKa]

Hi tschernobyl

Die Aktie muß heute ganz schön Federn lassen! Im Moment 3 1/2 $ (knapp -10%)
Was ist da los? Oder haben die Arbeistmarktdaten schuld?

Grüße Johannes

[tschernobyl]

Hi!

Es gibt also doch noch jemanden, der sich für Graphon interessiert. Der Rutsch gestern hat wohl was mit dem Gesamtmarkt zu tun. Und die SmallCaps lassen dann immer besonders viele Federn.

Bei Graphon werden viele ungeduldig (was ich gut verstehen kann). Dass NCD aber das Patent grundsätzlich anerkennt, ist für mich eine grossartige Meldung. Übrigens ist Ende `99 ein ehemaliger IBM-Manager, der dort für Patente zuständig war, zu Graphon gestossen. Zu China müsste aber so langsam was kommen. Froh stimmt mich der für Graphon enorme Umsatz in der letzten Woche. Phantasie hat die Aktie, vielleicht erkennt der Markt das jetzt.

Ich sehe, dass du auch in Citrix investiert bist. Das waren gestern die einzigen "Grünen" in meinem Depot. Die nächsten Zahlen werden auf jeden Fall spannend.

[tschernobyl]

Kommt Microsofts .NET-Technik für Linux?

Nach der Investition von Microsoft in Corel hat der kanadische Software-Hersteller in einer aktuellen Veröffentlichung bei der amerikanischen Börsenaufsicht (SEC) einige Details der Vereinbarung preisgegeben. Der wohl überraschendste Passus: Microsoft hat die Option, Corel damit zu beauftragen, .NET nach Linux zu portieren. .NET ist Microsofts Vision für die digitale Zukunft und soll Internet, PC und mobile Geräte zusammenbringen. Falls es zu diesem Port kommt, erhält Microsoft alle Rechte an der Linux-Version von .NET. Wenn Corel die Software nutzen möchte, müsste das Softwarehaus Lizenzgebühren an Microsoft zahlen.

Rene Schmidt, bei Corel zuständig für die Linux-Produkte, erklärte dazu, dass Corel ein großes Interesse an .NET habe und diese Technik gerne als erstes Unternehmen für Linux anbieten wolle. Microsoft äußerte sich etwas zurückhaltender: "Wir sind uns bewusst, dass Kunden heterogene Rechnerumgebungen einsetzen. Aber wir konzentrieren uns in erster Linie auf Windows", so Jim Ewel, Vizepräsident der Windows.NET-Server-Gruppe. Ein Microsoft-Sprecher erklärte, der Software-Riese habe zurzeit kein Interesse an .NET für Linux. Aber falls man es irgendwann brauchen sollte, habe man durch die Vereinbarung mit Corel eine Option in der Hinterhand.

Analysten begrüßten die Vereinbarung. Microsoft müsse Interesse daran haben, .NET das Image einer plattformübergeifenden Technik zu geben, kommentierte die Gartner Group. Möglicherweise handele es sich auch um den Plan B für den Fall, dass Microsoft im Zuge des Kartellprozesses aufgeteilt und .NET dadurch von Windows getrennt wird. (odi/c`t)

[tschernobyl]

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/001018/ny_bluesto.html

Wednesday October 18, 9:47 am Eastern Time
Press Release
BlueStone Capital Partners Announces Investment Opinion on GraphOn Corporation
BlueStone Capital Initiates Coverage on GraphOn Corporation (GOJO) with a 2-2 Rating
NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 18, 2000-- Senior Analyst Jean W. Orr, CFA, of BlueStone Capital initiates coverage on GraphOn Corporation (GOJO; NASDAQ-$2.69) with a 2-2 Market Perform-Market Perform investment rating.

The intermediate price target is $4.25 and the long-term target price is $7.80, according to the analyst.

Analyst`s Summary

We are initiating coverage on GraphOn Corporation, with a 2-2 rating, and price targets of $4.25 intermediate term and $7.80 longer term. This is based upon a market capitalization-to-revenue multiple of three times our 2001 and 2002 estimates, respectively.
GraphOn Bridges technology for Windows, which allows applications to be Web-enabled without modification, was released in February.
Initial customers for Bridges include: Cincom Systems, Goldmine, Compuware, Corel and Hewlett Packard.
The company has an agreement with Compaq to use Bridges on servers sold by Compaq in China.
Revenues in the second quarter were up 160% from the second quarter of 1999; we expect revenue growth of 130% in 2000 and 119% over the next three years.
BlueStone Capital is a full service investment banking and brokerage firm focused on identifying investment opportunities in the emerging growth sector. BlueStone Capital assists clients in maximizing their growth by providing sophisticated investment strategies that are designed to achieve clients` strategic, operating and financial goals. Member NASD, SIPC, and ISMA.

[tschernobyl]

GraphOn Corp. Ships Bridges for UNIX 1.1 Web-enabling Software
LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Nov. 13, 2000--


Instantly Makes UNIX Applications Accessible Through Any Standard Web Browser, Provides Easy Cut-and-Paste between Windows and UNIX Apps, Controls Colors Across Operating Systems and Features Client-side Printing

GraphOn Corporation, (Nasdaq:GOJO) (www.graphon.com), developers of web-enabling software for UNIX, Windows and Linux applications, today announced it is now shipping Version 1.1 of Bridges for UNIX, a high performance software solution that instantly web-enables UNIX applications for access over any WAN, LAN, dial-up or Internet connection by any PC or Internet-connected device. GraphOn Bridges for UNIX lets users access their business-critical UNIX applications through standard Web browsers from anywhere in the world without an X server on the client.

GraphOn Bridges for UNIX puts IT managers and software vendors on the fast track to extend network-centric UNIX applications to today`s low-cost desktops and devices, giving Fortune 500 employees easy, cost-effective access to their business-critical UNIX applications anywhere they can log onto the Internet. GraphOn Bridges for UNIX is also helping to create new options that are highly attractive to cost-conscious enterprises and to Independent Software Vendors (ISVs) who want to expand markets for their UNIX applications through the Application Service Provider (ASP) channel that rents software over the Internet.

GraphOn was the first software vendor to develop and deliver low bandwidth, high performance remote access connectivity to users of UNIX applications. GraphOn Bridges for UNIX and its predecessors, GO-Global and GO-Joe, have been the solution of choice by large enterprise accounts, Sun Microsystems, Hewlett-Packard and IBM and benefit tens-of-thousands of UNIX users daily.

"GraphOn Bridges for UNIX answers many enterprises` UNIX software access, maintenance and deployment problems," said GraphOn Executive Vice President, Robin Ford. "For instance, in today`s 24/7 world, too much time is lost having to travel to UNIX-specific sites because of X server and application delivery constraints. GraphOn Bridges for UNIX helps enterprises deliver UNIX application access to users over any type data connection from a standard Web browser."

Bridges for UNIX 1.1 is supported on Solaris, HP/UX and Red Hat Linux server platforms. Features include the ability to cut and paste between the UNIX server and Windows clients, enhanced printing, simultaneous PseudoColor and True Color visuals and reduced amounts of data transferred during normal desktop operation. Supported desktop platforms include Windows NT 4.0/95/98/2000, Netscape and Microsoft Internet Explorer.

GraphOn`s Bridges software allows enterprises, ISVs selling into large enterprises and application service providers (ASPs) to easily and cost effectively web-enable their existing complex, feature-rich Windows(R), UNIX(R), and Linux(R) applications for access over both local and wide area networks, dial-up connections, or the Internet. Read about GraphOn Bridges in action in the Software & Information Industry Association Trends Report 2000 at http://www.trendsreport.net/software/graphon.html.

[xanda1]

ohne unternehmensmeldungen
ist der kurs gestiegen und
die umsätze haben deutlich
angezogen.
dies wird auf berichte über
die qualität der software
zurückgeführt. CRN COMMDEX

[xanda1]

eigenartig...
heute große umsätze
bei kaum veränderten kursen??
habe GOJO auf die watchlist
genommen.

[xanda1]

man munkelt im yahoo board
über ein buyout.
?????

[xanda1]

heute kam eine meldung
über eine vertriebsvereinbarung
mit einem unternehmen in singapur.

für einen einstieg ist diese suppe
zu dünn.

[xanda1]

seit einigen tagen knallt der
kurs nach oben.
keine ahnung warum

[xanda1]

das reizt mich jetzt aber doch.

wenn nächste woche kein rückfall kommt,
werde ich vermutlich einige stücke
kaufen.

vielleicht funktioniert deren software
ja wirklich.