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[kosto!]

***ACHTUNG! HIER HANDELT ES SICH UM KEINE ANSCHULDIGUNGEN GEGEN EIN FINANZINSTITUT! NIE UND NIMMER! SONDER NUR UM EINE THEORIE! OB WAHR ODER UNWAHR SOLL JEDER SELBST ENTSCHEIDEN***

Herr Roller (Telefon: [phone]) ist einer der Spezialisten der Deutschen Bank, welcher mit Kauf/Verkaufsempfehlungen ordentlich Geld reinspielt und somit zu Rekordgewinnen für seine liebe Firma (und deren Aktionäre) gelangt.

Das Spiel ist einfach: Aktien zum Kauf empfehlen und die Eigenbestände dann (wenn die dummen Kleinanleger Lunte gerochen haben) auf den Markt werfen.
Oder umgekehrt, a la Fantastic: 3 Wochen vor den Geschäftszahlen ein Hausnummern-Zielkurs (tief, tiefer am tiefsten) veröffentlichen, um so billige Stücke einsammeln zu können. Denn der dumme Kleinanleger ist ja ein Herdentier und folgt brav der großen großen Bank. Die Spezialisten werden`s schon wissen.

Tja, die Börse ist halt ein Nullsummenspiel. Die großen sahnen ab und irgendwer bleibt halt auf der Strecke. Und welche Aktie ist es morgen?

Sicherlich sind jetzt viele FANTASTIC Anleger sauer. Wir sollten einfach zusammenhalten und den Herrn Roller (nochmals die Telefonnummer: [phone]) ganz einfach fragen, wie das denn so gemeint ist bzw. abläuft. Vielleicht ist er ja ein ganz netter Kerl.

[vonBräukelen]

? dann werden ich den herrn roller doch mal anrufen

schau mer mal

[zwrecht]

Kleinvieh macht auch Mist
(Bitte jedes Wort wörtliche nehmen).
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Und das "non olet"!
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Wem gehört eigentlich die Deutsche Bank ?

[Bullentöter]

Die müssen doch die Kohle, die sie durch die Schneider-Pleite verloren haben wieder reinholen!!!



Gruss BT

[MichaelHM]

@kosto!

Gratuliere!
Du hast das Prinzip absolut verstanden. Ich kann dir zu 100% zustimmen.
Und jetzt wird Fanta gekauft - billiger kommt man nicht mehr dran.

Grood Trades!
Michael

[456321]

Rollers eMail is

[e-mail]

Schickt ihm doch eMails und gebt seine adresse auch in andere Boards und Chats weiter

[@stern]

DB intershop verkaufen
1,5 wochen später kooperation mit intershop verkünden,
poet kaufen, die aktie viel ins bodenlose und und und,
man ``könnte`` meinen diese bank pusht kurse,
ich betone ausdrücklich ``könnte``

[titian]

guckt euch mal die HSBC/GoldmannSachs/SalOppenheim an.

[eurofighter2000]

z.B.
Must read........
by: lookingforgoodvalue 11/2/00 9:39 am
Msg: 11403 of 11436

It sounds like SFV and gang:


REAL IMPORTANT READ:
Confessions of a Paid Basher

By Tom Martin
aka “Steve Tracy”
aka “Firebird_1965”

Today I want to come clean about something I feel very badly about. I cannot undo some of the things I have done, but hopefully this message will prevent other such occurrences in the future.

I am a paid basher.

Yes, it is true. Today is my last day at this company; I’m moving on to a new job. But before I go, I want to explain a few things because this just isn’t right and I won’t feel good about myself until I expose this sham. It’s hurt too many people and I don’t want it on my conscience anymore. I can no longer live with a lie.

I work for a company called Franklin, Andrews, Kramer & Edelstein in Stamford, CT. Basically, it’s a Boiler Room much like the one in the movie of the same name. The idea behind my group is to bash the price of a company’s stock down low enough to where the group of investors who retained our company’s services can buy the stock really cheap and perhaps even take it over all together.

There are approximately 70 people at the company divided into several groups. My group, consisting of 5 people, is responsible for BIFS. While I probably shouldn’t give any names of anyone working here now, what the heck, I’m leaving here, so what can they do – sue me? Ha! I can tell you that GUTTWRENCH was part of my group until he left last week, as was Richardphx. Others who have been part of this include early bashers like Epiphonics and Simontaz. You may be interested to know that some hypsters, such as Amato7 and BIFWATCHER, have also been part of the scam (more on that later).

There are several companies engaged in the bashing business – ours is not the only one. However, I can tell you that not every basher in here is a paid basher. Having done this for two years, I can usually tell who is a paid basher and who is merely someone having a little fun. While unpaid bashers have a different motive than someone like me, they can be unwilling accomplices to helping me achieve my ultimate goal and they also spread rumor and confusion throughout a room, which also helps me.

What is that goal? Well, I am merely a cog in a much larger machine, so my bosses never really explained the big picture to me, but I’d say essentially, GUTTWRENCH was right. There are several companies who are quite familiar with SWOMI and who are deathly afraid of it.

There are three types of bashers here at Franklin, Andrews, Kramer & Edelstein: Advanced, Intermediate and Beginner. An Advanced-level basher (also known as a Silver Tongued Devil) would spread false or misleading information about the company. They would deal in facts, countering every longs post with articles, news reports and opinion surveys that gave a negative impression about the company.

An Intermediate-level basher (also known as a Serpent) would try to weasel their way into the confidence of longs and create doubt using rumor or innuendo.

Finally, a Beginner-level basher (also known as a Pitchfork) would attempt to create confusion in the room by distracting other posters with satire, name calling and pointless arguments. The idea was to make sure no serious discussion of the stock could take place. A Pitchfork was usually a basher, but not always. Sometimes, we would throw in a hypster Pitchfork such as Amato7 or BIFSWATCHER to create the illusion of an argument going on. What was really funny (in a perverse way, I guess) was that Amato7 and I sat next to each other, laughing the whole time.


I was a Pitchfork. I was paid a base wage of $12 an hour for my services. I was given a $1 bonus for every post over 100 per day as well as a monthly bonus of $100 for every penny the stock had dropped from the previous month. I was also paid a bonus for bashing on weekends. While this may not sound like much, I made a decent, though dishonorable, paycheck.

Each of us sat in a small half-cubicle in a cluster with our teammates. Each group (usually five people) was made of three beginners (two who would bash and one who would hype), one intermediate and one advanced level basher. Occasionally for some of the hotter stocks, one of the beginners would be replaced by an intermediate depending on how much the stock was rising. BIFS was a low-level stock, meaning it got the 3-1-1 configuration.
Somehow, I get the feeling that JPACK2 may have worked for a basher company or knows someone who does because the “Basher Handbook” he occasionally posts is eerily similar to the one we actually use. While not a word-for-word match, I’d say it is about 90 percent the same. We do have certain rules that we follow.

First, we have to develop a character and stay within that character in order to build a “following.” My character, “Firebird_1965,” was a sarcastic, obnoxious supporter of free speech, but only when it came to bashers.

Next, we had to follow certain guidelines on what we could say. We were urged to have an “answer” to every long’s question, but we were to frame that answer in a way that ridiculed the questioner for asking such a question. However, we were never to use profanity or vulgarity because that would cause people to ignore us. We were to make fun of people, but in a civil way. The idea was to get “play,” i.e. – reaction from other posters. The more play we got, the more the room would be disrupted. Ignored posters get no play. One exception would be the hypster – since they were “defending” the stock against our onslaught, they got a little more leeway. People would side with the hypster because they thought he was real since he appeared to be on their side, but was really on ours, setting us up to disrupt the room. Padelcars is quite good at this and gets paid very well.

I’ve worked on BIFS for about three months now. In addition to the Firebird_1965 alias, I’ve used a few others on the BIFS and several other boards as well. I stuck with Firebird_1965 because it was the one that got the most play from other posters.

In closing, I feel absolutely terrible about this. It’s just awful how I’ve been part of a scam designed to cheat honest, hard-working people out of their investments all for the benefit of a few wealthy people who already have enough money to last a lifetime. These greedy people MUST be stopped. That’s why I’m posting this before I leave. I want to make up for some of the damage I’ve done. I can’t live with this lie anymore. You can’t imagine how hard it is to look at myself in the mirror each morning knowing my job is to cheat and lie.

I have to go now, I’m too broken up to continue. I hope this confession can make up for my sordid deeds; I would urge everyone who reads this to copy and repost it as many times as you can. Only by shining the light of truth can we drive these rats back into the darkness from whence they came. Believe me, they don’t want publicity.

I hope all of you can forgive me and save me a seat on that BIFS rocket to the moon. If this helps, let me leave you with this…

GO BIFS!!!!

With fervent remorse,

Tom Martin
aka “Steve Tracy”
aka “Firebird_1965”


Posted as a reply to: Msg 11403 by lookingforgoodvalue

[Creed]

Hallo,

vermutlich hatte sich vor einigen Jahren die Frage gestellt,wie man an die
dicken Konten der Privathaushalte kommen könnte ?
Mit dem künstlichen Aufbau eines Aktienboom`s und Zusammenarbeit mit
einem Volksblatt war die Lösung bereits gefunden !
Sparbücher ade und nichts wie ran an die grossen Gewinne,was sollte auch
schon schiefgehen ?

Tja,und nun wundern sich jede Menge Leute,warum die Banken bzw. Analysten
doch so herzlos und unseriös sein können ?
Dabei ist denen Ihre Strategie vollkommen aufgegangen und über vor Wut kochende
Kleinanleger,die sich dann in den Boards zusammenrotten,lächeln die sich eins !

Könnte doch so gewesen sein ?

Gruss,(selbst Betroffener)

Creed