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      schrieb am 14.06.01 17:01:30
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      @all interested in polit(r)ic(k)s

      sorry english only -

      vielleicht macht sich aber einer die Mühe u. übersetzt das
      für d. anderen - zwecks Nachdenken ! - oder -

      Was geht eigentlich hinter d. offiziellen Kulissen ab ?

      Auszug aus www.williamcooper.com

      Updated: Tuesday, June 12th, 2001, 9:00 AM
      Oklahoma City Bombing
      The Plot Thickens

      By William Cooper All Rights Reserved

      Veritas News Service -- Exclusive, June 11, 2001 -- We are NOT racist, white supremacist, Zionist, British Israel, Christian Identity, or anti-Semitic. We refute all racist and/or superior race philosophies. We believe that such beliefs are a plague upon the human race. We are loyal Americans interested in the truth. We believe in Liberty and Freedom for all People regardless of race, religion, or place of ancestral origin.

      On April 19, 1310 fifty-four of the Knights Templars who had recanted after having confessed were condemned as relapsed and sentenced to be publicly burned on 12 May of the same year. The battles of Lexington and Concord opened the American Revolutionary War on April 19, 1775. That day was declared Patriot`s Day. On April 19, 1943 German troops entered the Warsaw Ghetto to round up the remaining heroes of the Jewish uprising. Yom Hoshoa (Holocaust remembrance day) is April 19th. The federal takedown of the organization known as the Covenant Sword and Arm of the the Lord occurred on April 19, 1985. The final assault upon the Branch Davidians occurred on April 19, 1993. The bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building also occurred on April 19th. All of these events, and many more, have occurred on April 19th. Another very curious fact is that David Koresh and Timothy McVeigh were both 33 years old at the time of their deaths.

      Our investigation of the Oklahoma City bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building has uncovered the following:

      John Doe #1 is Timothy McVeigh.

      John Doe #2 is Michael Brescia, an army buddy of Timothy McVeigh. Until recently he was in federal custody. The federal government has protected and hidden the identity of this criminal because he is an informant for at least one agency of the United States government. He is not a Nazi, white Supremacist, anti-Semite, or racist. When we asked the FBI to provide us with a photo of Michael Brescia for positive identification they refused. We obtained photos from Patriot law enforcement personnel within our organization. We positively identified Michael Brescia as John Doe #2 from those photos.

      John Doe #3 has been identified as Andreas Strassmier, a West German Intelligence operative. He is not a Nazi, white supremacist, anti-Semite, or racist. Sources in Germany claim Strassmier is Jewish. This information has been confirmed by two additional independent German sources.

      John Doe #4 has been positively identified by the Intelligence Service as Gary Hunt. He has never been questioned by any law enforcement agency. Gary Hunt was also involved with the Waco Massacre in 1993. Gary Hunt is an informant for the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms (BATF). Gary Hunt masquerades as an American Patriot. The ethnic and religious background of Gary Hunt is not known at this time.

      John Doe #5 has been positively identified by the Intelligence Service as Daniel Spiegelman (a.k.a. William Taylor), a fund raiser for the Oklahoma City bombing operation. He was arrested and imprisoned in the Netherlands when he attempted to sell historic documents that were stolen from Columbia University for the purpose of financing the OKC bombing. Spiegelman was extradited from the Netherlands to the United States on the condition that he would not be charged with a capital crime for which he could receive the death sentence. United States District Judge Lewis Kaplan, a Zionist, sentenced Spiegleman to 60 months in jail, 3 years probation, 300 days of community service in an adult literacy education program, and restitution to Columbia in an amount not yet determined. Daniel Spiegelman`s conviction will most likely be set aside because his defense lawyer Paul Kurtz was discovered to be a fake lawyer. Paul Kurtz, 56, of Bethesda, Md., was charged in a 41-count indictment issued by a Manhattan federal jury for claiming to be a licensed attorney and defending clients including Daniel Spiegelman who was convicted of stealing rare manuscripts from Columbia University. Spiegelman was sentenced in April 1998. Daniel Spiegelman is Jewish.

      John Doe #6 remains unidentified at this time. We have a video tape of John Doe #6 in the company of Gary Hunt (John Doe #4) walking away from the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building within 10 minutes after the bombs detonated. Both men in the video tape are carrying transmitters in their hands.

      Mike Vanderboegh of the "John Doe Times" is an agent of the Anti Defamation League masquerading as a Patriot commander of the Alabama 1st Calvary (Militia). The Militia which he claims to command does not exist... it is a fraud. His purpose is to place the blame for the Oklahoma City bombing on Patriots and the Lawful Militia attributing a motive of white supremacist anti-Semitism and racism. A charge that cannot be true in light of the ethnic identity of several John Does.

      The Branch Davidians were a racial mix of mostly Black, Hispanic, Asian, and a couple of Jewish members. A very small minority of the Church was Caucasian (white). Racist white supremacist anti-Semites would have rejoiced at their death not planned revenge. Racist white supremacist anti-Semites do not avenge the death of Blacks, Hispanics, Orientals, and Jews.

      The People who worked in the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building were mostly Caucasian (white) and could not have been the target of racist white supremacist anti-Semites. Racist white supremacist anti-Semites do not murder whites.

      The KKK and white supremacist groups expressed dissatisfaction with the manner in which the BATF and FBI were handling the Branch Davidians and called for an assault by the government to end the stand-off. A contingent of KKK white supremacists traveled to Waco to offer their services to the BATF and FBI in order to affect the arrests of the Branch Davidians. If the KKK was for the takedown of the Davidians how and why would they seek revenge for their deaths?

      Prominent members of the Anti Defamation League made public statements which were carried by the major news networks (recorded and placed in safekeeping) that disclosed the ADL had the perpetrators under surveillance for as long as two years. The spokesmen stated that they knew the bombing was going to happen well in advance. Prominent members of the ADL were instrumental in fomenting the attack upon the Branch Davidians in Waco Texas in 1975.

      John Doe #7 is the leader of Elohim City Rev. Robert G. Millar an ADL, FBI, and BATF informant who was instrumental in bringing down the Covenant, Sword, and Arm of the Lord on April 19, 1985. It is because of Millar’s status as an informant Elohim City has developed the reputation as a safe haven for racist criminals in America.

      John Doe #8 is Michael Fortier by his own admission. He made an agreement with the feds to turn State`s evidence against Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols. In return Fortier was prosecuted for prior knowledge but not as an accomplice to the bombing.

      John Doe #9 is Terry Nichols. Terry is another army buddy of McVeigh. Nichols claims innocence but was convicted as an accomplice.

      Carol Howe was a BATF informant and disclosed the plans of the bombing and those involved to the BATF. After the bombing Carol Howe disclosed this information to the public and the press. The BATF attempted to imprison Carol Howe in order to silence her but lost their case. She maintains that the BATF knew the culprits and the target (a government building) well before the bombing occurred.

      Governor Keating, Keating`s brother, Representative Ernest Istook (R) Oklahoma, Anti Defamation League, FBI, BATF, United States Marshall Service, Oklahoma City Fire Department, Oklahoma City Police Department, and the Oklahoma City Bomb Squad knew the bombing would occur well in advance of April 19, 1995.

      The American Intelligence Community knew of the plans to detonate a bomb in the "heartland" of America as early as 1971 and wrote of it in a Top Secret document called MAJESTYTWELVE which contains the plan for the disarmament of the American People and implementation of a world socialist totalitarian government.

      The Oklahoma City bombing was a joint operation involving intelligence operatives of the United States, Germany, and Israel. The purpose of the bombing was to strike terror into the heartland of America destroying the illusion of safety and security in America. Those responsible set the propaganda wheels in motion to blame Patriots, Militia, and religious fundamentalists in order to prepare American Citizens to accept personal disarmament in preparation for world socialist government. Right after the bombing Congress passed a draconian and unconstitutional anti-terrorist bill.

      During his tenure as Director of the FBI William Steele Sessions created the National Security Threat List, which was approved by the Attorney General in 1991, it changed its approach from defending against hostile intelligence agencies to protecting U.S. information and technologies. It thus identified all countries--not just hostile intelligence services--that pose a continuing and serious intelligence threat to the United States. It also defined expanded threat issues, including the proliferation of chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons; the loss of critical technologies; and the improper collection of trade secrets and proprietary information. During a press conference in 1993 (during the Waco fiasco) FBI Director William S. Sessions warned the nation of a Jewish underground which threatened the National Security of the United States of America. He was immediately politically attacked by AIPAC interests and its political stooges. He appeared on television two weeks later to announce his resignation as Director of the FBI with his arm (broken) in a sling.

      Ari Shavit, an Israeli columnist, wrote in an essay reprinted in the May 27, 1996 issue of the New York Times from the Israeli paper Haaretz, while reflecting sorrowfully on the wanton Israeli killing of more than 100 Lebanese civilians in April, that:

      "We killed them out of a certain naive hubris. Believing with absolute certitude that now, with the White House, the Senate, and much of the American media in our hands, the lives of others do not count as much as our own..."

      Joseph Sobran, in a June 13, 1996 edition of The Wanderer said, "In a single phrase - `in our hands` - Shavit has lighted up the American political landscape like a flash of lightning."

      The admission confirms what has been labeled "an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory". Sobran admits in his article that this "theory" is held my many Israelis.

      Sobran wrote:

      "Charges of anti-Semitism and a quiet but very effective boycott will be the reward of any journalist who calls attention to his own government`s - and his own profession`s - servitude to Israeli interests. Shavit states as an obvious fact what Americans can say publicly only at great risk. It is surprising and refreshing to find such candor in an American newspaper.

      "The prescribed take on this subject is that Israel is a `reliable ally` of the United States, despite Israel`s long record of double-dealing against this country, ranging from the killing of American sailors to constant espionage and technology theft. The word `ally` implies that the relationship exists because it`s in the interests of this country, though Israel`s lobby is clearly devoted to the interests of Israel itself, and it`s childish to suggest otherwise.

      "You expect that from the Israeli lobby: lobbies are lobbies, after all. But it`s unnerving that the White House, the Senate, and much of the American media should be `in our hands,` as Shavit puts it. Bill Clinton, a lover of peace since his college days, raised no protest when the Israelis drove 400,000 innocent Lebanese out of their homes in `retaliation` for rockets launched into Israel (wounding one Israeli) by a faction over whom those 400,000 had no control. `Congress, of course, was supine as usual at this latest extravagance of Israeli defense.` Congress too is `in our hands`.

      "A recent article in The Washington Post likened the Israel lobby`s power to that of the gun and tobacco lobbies. But there is one enormous difference. Newspapers like the Post aren`t afraid to criticize the gun and tobacco lobbies. They will say forthrightly that those lobbies seek goals that are dangerous for this country. They don`t dare say as much of the Israeli lobby.

      "but much of the press and electronic media are `in our hands` in a more active sense: They supply misleading pro-Israel propaganda in the guise of news and commentary, constantly praising Israeli `democracy` and ignoring Israel`s mistreatment of its non-Jewish minorities - mistreatment which, if any government inflicted it on a Jewish minority, would earn it the fierce opprobrium of our media.

      "Very few in America are doing anything to change this sorry state of affairs. Shavit wrote his article in the desperate hope of turning back his countrymen and his government from a morally and politically perilous course. At least he can hope. It`s harder for us, when our own government isn`t in our hands."

      The importance of this information is that the bombing of the Oklahoma City Murrah Federal Building could NOT EVER have been the racist actions of White Supremacists exacting revenge for the massacre of the Branch Davidians at Waco, Texas.

      - - -

      Questions ? Hell of a lot !!!

      Gruß

      HJL
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      schrieb am 14.06.01 17:45:54
      Beitrag Nr. 2 ()
      :laugh:

      The final assault upon the Branch Davidians occurred on April 19, 1993. The bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building also occurred on April 19th.

      War schon mal kein Zufall, weil Timothy McVeigh seinen "Termin" nach dem ersten richtete.

      Zu jedem Datum lassen sich fast x-beliebig viele historische Ereignisse finden.

      Alles Radosophie.
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      schrieb am 14.06.01 18:02:00
      Beitrag Nr. 3 ()
      @all

      Nachtrag -

      John Doe # 3 - Andreas Strassmaier - ( German Counter Intelligence ) zu deutsch " deutsche Spionageabwehr "

      Frage an unsere Politiker : Was bringt eigentlich einen deutschen Spionageabwehrmann dazu, an/in einem solchen " Terrorist Act " beteiligt zu sein ?

      Warum " siedeln- " die Amis diese erkannten " Verbrecher !!! " ( zumindest Mitwissende in d. Vorbereitung d. Aktes ) nicht ebenso wie T. Veigh " -um ". Vielleicht weil es nur besser passt wenn ein " Rechter Tagedieb " für diese " Sauerei " hingestellt werden kann. Ist das unser heutiges Rechts-System ? Auf gut deutsch - ( Lumperei u. Verbrecher-Gesindel ?

      Und wo bleiben unsere ach so besorgten u. allways bereiten Medien ? Fragen über Fragen.

      Ich kann nur einigen Boardteilnehmern beipflichten, wenn sie sagen - raus aus d. Land. Nur - und das ist die bittere Wahrheit - dieses politische " Hintergrund-Dreckpack "
      ist schon ! weltweit ! über das " Finanztum " am Schieben und Tricksen.

      - Bilderberger
      - Trilateral
      - CFR ( Council for Foreign Relations )
      - Illuminati
      - Club of Rome

      etc. etc.

      Mal schaun was unsere " Presse- " Schmutzfinken in den nächsten Tagen darüber berichten !???!

      Gruß

      HJL
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      schrieb am 14.06.01 18:27:02
      Beitrag Nr. 4 ()
      Und nicht zu vergessen die Schalke-Fans.
      Das sind die schlimmsten.
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      schrieb am 14.06.01 18:43:04
      Beitrag Nr. 5 ()
      @GHolzbauer

      Weiß ich nicht ob die Schalke-Männer zu den Schlimmen gehören - vielleicht können Sie das besser beurteilen !

      Nur eines weiß ich sicher ! Typen wie Sie, die sich an Flüchtigkeit- bzw. Schreibfehlern anderer Leute aufhängen
      sind meistens absichtlich involviert ( S i e ! wissen was ich meine ) bzw. diese sind die eigentlichen " Schlimmen " !

      Nehme es jeder wie er es will. Ich bin nicht angetreten um Dumme/Unbelehrbare/Ingnoranten/Subversive - zu bekehren, sondern diejenigen anzusprechen, die sich noch für halbwegs ehrliche Politik, ein Leben in Freiheit ! etc. einsetzen.

      Dazu gehören Sie sicherlich nicht. Daher verzeihenSie mir, wenn ich auf derartige Postinmgs nur einmal reagiere !

      In diesem Sinne

      Gruß

      HJL


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