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      schrieb am 05.07.01 15:19:16
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      Hat hierzu jemand eine brauchbare Meinung ?

      Grüße AktiKmel
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      schrieb am 05.07.01 15:25:22
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      Würde mich auch interessieren!
      Danke, gruß
      cb2cb2
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      schrieb am 05.07.01 15:36:11
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      Heute gibt es zumindest keinen Verkaufsdruck.
      EXDS leicht im Plus gegen den Trend
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      schrieb am 05.07.01 16:03:00
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      ja, denn sie sind bei Stock World aus dem Depot genommen worden, das ist ein gutes Zeichen,weil diese Deppen ANALysten, die absuluten Penner sind. wenn wir so arbeiten würden wie die,na wie lange wäre der Job noch sicher.??? also rein und warten, auch die kommen wieder..mfg
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      schrieb am 05.07.01 20:55:32
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      Servus zusammen

      bin auch ganz heiss auf EXDS nur wir bekommen sie
      noch billiger.

      mfg

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      schrieb am 06.07.01 14:41:10
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      heute gegen Handelsende kaufen, dann kommt man am günstigsten rein.
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      schrieb am 06.07.01 16:55:18
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      Ich bin heute mal wieder reingegangen ....
      bei 1,60$ und wie immer 2 Teilausführungen und mein runtergesetztes Limit nicht mehr angenommen - Das US Orderzeugs bei Codi klappt irgendwie noch nicht richtig - viel zu langsam bäääh !
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      schrieb am 06.07.01 17:01:18
      Beitrag Nr. 8 ()
      wartet noch das alte tagestief ab!

      mfg
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      schrieb am 06.07.01 17:15:43
      Beitrag Nr. 9 ()
      Ach ja, mit Exodus sollte man wirklich nur Zocken, das Teil ist schon ganzschön heiß !
      Mein letzten Zocks haben alle geklappt, mal sehen ob auch diesmal ......
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      schrieb am 08.07.01 14:08:13
      Beitrag Nr. 10 ()
      Exodus hatte am Fr. ein klassisches Intradyreversal - und zwar wesentlich extremer als der Nasdaq selbst. EXDS war in der Spitze bis zu 12% im Minus und hat dann doch fast auf 0 geschlossen.
      EXDS hat in der Vergangenheit schon oft am Tag bis zu 30% gewonnen. Vielleicht klappts ja diesesmal auch wieder.

      Gute Geschäfte

      Grüße AktiKmel
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      schrieb am 08.07.01 20:40:47
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      Hoffe, einige von euch sind Freitag reingegangen .....
      Die Aktie ist für mich der Hammer !!!
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      schrieb am 08.07.01 21:35:13
      Beitrag Nr. 12 ()
      Fuer einen kurzfristigen Zock ist EXDS tatsaechlich immer mal wieder interessant. Langfristig wuerde ich die Finger davon lassen. Denkt bitte dran, die Zeiten haben sich geaendert und ihr solltet immer mal wieder Gewinne einsacken. Wir steuern sehr volatilen Zeiten entgegen --- macht euch das zum Nutzen. Langfristiges, sauberes ja sogar kostolanisches Wachstum ist in naeherer Zukunft nicht mehr drin. Das bezieht sich auf die NASDAQ genauso wie auf den Neuen Markt. Viel Glueck.

      Stock Analysis of Exodus Comm.

      Thank you for requesting an analysis of Exodus Comm. from VectorVest. The ticker symbol for Exodus Comm. is EXDS. EXDS is traded on the NASDAQ and options are available on this stock.

      PRICE: EXDS closed on 07/06/2001 at $1.75 per share.

      VALUE: EXDS has a Value of $1.06 per share. Value is the foundation of the VectorVest system. It is a measure of what a stock is currently worth. Value is based upon earnings, earnings growth rate, dividend payments, dividend growth rate, and financial performance. Current interest and inflation rates also play an important role in the computation of Value. When interest and/or inflation rates decrease, Value goes up. When interest rates and inflation increase, Value goes down. Sooner or later a stock`s Price and Value always converge.

      RV (Relative Value): EXDS has an RV of 0.6. On a scale of 0.00 to 2.00, an RV of 0.6 is poor. RV reflects the long-term price appreciation potential of the stock compared to an alternative investment in AAA Corporate Bonds. Stocks with RV ratings above 1.00 have attractive upside potential. A stock will have an RV greater than 1.00 when its Value is greater than Price, and its Relative Safety (see below) and forecasted earnings growth rate are above average. In some cases, however, a stock`s RV will be above 1.00 even though its Value is well below Price. This happens when a stock has an exemplary record of financial performance and an above average earnings growth rate. In this case, the stock is currently selling at a premium, and the investor is banking on future earnings growth to drive the stock`s price higher. This information is very useful not only in knowing whether or not a stock has favorable price appreciation potential, but it also solves the riddle of whether to buy high growth, high P/E, or low growth, low P/E stocks. We believe that RV ratings above 1.00 are required to consistently achieve above average capital gains in the stock market.

      RS (Relative Safety): EXDS has an RS rating of 0.46. On a scale of 0.00 to 2.00, an RS of 0.46 is very poor. VectorVest looks at safety from the viewpoint of an equity investor (one who is buying stock of a company) rather than that of a purchaser of debt (one who is lending money to the company). From this perspective, consistency of financial and operating performance, stock price appreciation history, and price volatility are the key factors used in the evaluation of Relative Safety (RS). Debt to equity ratio, capitalization, sales volume, business longevity and other factors are also considered, but to a lesser degree.
      VectorVest favors steady, predictable performers. All stocks are rated on a scale of 0.00 to 2.00. A stock with an RS greater than 1.00 is safer and more predictable than the average of all stocks. A stock with an RS less than 1.00 is less predictable and riskier than the average stock.


      RT (Relative Timing): EXDS has an RT rating of 0.02. On a scale of 0.00 to 2.00, an RT of 0.02 is very poor. RT is a fast, responsive, short-term price trend indicator. It analyzes the direction, magnitude, and dynamics of a stock`s price behavior over the last 13 weeks; then reflects and projects the short-term price performance of the stock. Once a stock`s Price has established a strong trend, it is expected to continue that trend for the short-term. If the trend dissipates, RT will gravitate towards 1.00. Should the price change dramatically, RT will notice the crucial turning point. When warranted, it will explode from a Price low and dive from a Price high.
      All stocks are rated on a scale of 0.00 to 2.00. If RT is above 1.00,the stock`s Price is in an uptrend. Below 1.00, the stock`s Price is in a downtrend.


      VST-Vector (VST): EXDS has a VST-Vector rating of 0.42. On a scale of 0.00 to 2.00, an VST of 0.42 is very poor. VST-Vector solves the dilemma of balancing Value, Safety and Timing. Stocks with high RV values often have low RS values, or stocks with low RV and RS values have high RT`s. How can we find the stocks with the best combinations of Value, Safety, and Timing?
      The classic vector formula (square root of the sum of the squares) handles this problem. It combines a set of forces into a single indicator for ranking every stock in the VectorVest database. Stocks with the highest VST-Vector have the best combinations of Value, Safety and Timing. These are the ones to own for above average capital application.


      GRT (Growth Rate): EXDS has a GRT of -8 % per year. This is very poor. GRT stands for forecasted Earnings Growth Rate in percent per year. GRT is updated each week for every stock. Watch GRT trends very carefully. If the GRT trend is up, the stock`s Price will likely rise. If the GRT trend is down, the stock`s Price will increase more slowly, cease to increase, or subsequently fall.

      Recommendation (REC): EXDS has a Sell recommendation. REC reflects the cumulative effect of all the VectorVest parameters working together. These parameters are designed to help investors buy safe, undervalued stocks which are rising in price, and to avoid or sell risky, overvalued stocks which are falling in price.
      VectorVest is tuned to give an "H" or "B" signal when a stock`s price is approximately 10% above a recent low, and an "S" signal when the stock`s price is approximately 10% below a recent high. High RV, RS stocks are favored toward receiving "B" REC`s, and sheltered from receiving "S" RECs.


      STOP-PRICE: EXDS has a Stop-Price of 5.12 per share. This is 3.37 or 192.6 % above its current closing Price. VectorVest analyzes over 7,400 stocks each day for Value, Safety and Timing, and calculates a Stop-Price for each stock. These Stop-Prices are based upon 13 week moving averages of closing prices, and are fine-tuned according to each stock`s fundamentals.
      In the VectorVest system, a stock gets a "B" or an "H" recommendation if its price is above its Stop-Price, and an "S" recommendation if its price is below its Stop-Price.


      DIV (Dividend): EXDS does not pay a dividend. VectorVest focuses on annual, regular, cash dividends indicated by the most recent disbursement. Special distributions, one-time payments, stock dividends, etc., generally are not included in Dividend (DIV).

      DY (Dividend Yield): EXDS has a DY of 0 percent. This is below the current market average of 1.1 %. DY equals 100 x (DIV/PRICE), and is expressed as a percentage.

      EY (Earnings Yield): EXDS has an EY of -20.06%. This is below the current market average of 3.83%. EY equals 100 x (EARNINGS PER SHARE/PRICE), and is expressed as a percentage.

      EPS (Earnings Per Share): EXDS has an EPS of $-0.35 per share. EPS stands for leading 12 months Earnings Per Share. VectorVest determines this forecast from a combination of recent earnings performance and traditional fiscal and/or calendar year earnings forecasts.

      P/E (Price to Earnings Ratio): EXDS has a P/E ratio of -5. This ratio is computed daily based upon Price and EPS. P/E = Price/EPS.

      GPE (Growth to P/E Ratio): EXDS has a GPE of -1.6. This ratio suggests that EXDS is overvalued. Growth to P/E ratio is a popular measure of stock valuation which compares Earnings Growth Rate (GRT) to Price Earnings ratio (P/E). A stock is considered to be undervalued when GPE is greater than 1.00, and vice-versa. VectorVest believes that RV is a much better indicator of long-term value. The RV of 0.6 for EXDS is poor.

      DS (Dividend Safety): EXDS has a DS of 0. On a scale of 0 to 99, a DS of 0 is poor. DS is defined as the assurance that regular cash dividends will be declared and paid at current or at higher rates for the foreseeable future. Stocks with DS values above 50 on a scale of 0 to 99 are above average in safety.

      RISK (Dividend Risk): EXDS does not pay a dividend. All stocks in the VectorVest system that pay dividends are classified as having Low, Medium or High Dividend Risk (RISK). Stocks with DS values above 50 are above average in safety. These stocks are classified as having LOW or MEDIUM RISK. Stocks with DS values below 50 are below average in safety and are classified as having HIGH Risk.

      DG (Dividend Growth): EXDS has a DG of 0 percent per year. Dividend Growth is a subtle yet important indicator of a company`s historical financial performance and the board`s current outlook on the future use of funds.

      YSG-VECTOR (Yield-Safety-Growth Vector): EXDS has a YSG-Vector of 0. On a scale of 0.00 to 2.00, a YSG-Vector rating of 0 is very poor. VectorVest combines Dividend YIELD, SAFETY and GROWTH into a single parameter. YSG-Vector allows direct comparison of all dividend paying stocks. Stocks with the highest YSG-Vector values have the best combinations of Dividend Yield, Safety and Growth. These are the stocks to buy for above average current income and long-term growth.

      VOL(100)s: EXDS traded 21846300 shares on 07/06/2001.

      AVG VOL(100)s: EXDS has an Average Volume of 21544700. Average Volume is 50 day moving average of daily volume as computed by VectorVest.


      % VOL: EXDS had a Volume change of 1.4% from its 50 day moving average volume.

      OPEN: EXDS opened trading at $1.76 per share on 07/06/2001.

      HIGH: EXDS traded at a high of $1.78 per share on 07/06/2001.

      LOW: EXDS traded at a low of $1.53 per share on 07/06/2001.

      CLOSE: EXDS Closed trading at $1.75 per share on 07/06/2001.

      % PRC: EXDS showed a Price change of -2.2% from the prior day`s closing price.

      INDUSTRY: EXDS has been assigned to the Internet (Network) Group. VectorVest classifies stocks into over 190 Industry Groups and 50 Business Sectors.

      EXDS has well below average safety with well below average upside potential. It reflects a stock which is likely to give well below average, inconsistent returns over the long term.

      The basic strategy of VectorVest is to buy low risk, high reward stocks. We suggest that Prudent investors buy enough high Relative Value, high Relative Safety stocks to keep the overall RV and RS ratings of their portfolios above 1.00. As you do this, you`ll find that your risk will go down and your investment performance will improve. Not a bad combination. Thank you for your interest in VectorVest.
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      schrieb am 09.07.01 13:26:19
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      @Mr.Incognito:

      Alles schön und gut aber die Märkte bewegen sich nicht aufgrund der fundamentalen Aussichten. Hat man ja in letzter Zeit auch wieder gemerkt, wie auch im Frühjahr 2000. Deshalb sind solche Analysen meiner Meinung nach bis zu einem bestimmten Punkt unnütz!

      M.
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      schrieb am 10.07.01 01:38:34
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      Exodus hat noch 550 Mill. $ Cash. Pro Quartal verbrennen sie mindestens 150 Mill. $. D.h. Exodus ist spätestens in einem Jahr pleite. Wenn man einen Broker finden würde, der einen Short-Sale von Exodus ausführt, wäre es ein sicheres Geschäft Exodus zu shorten.
      Gruß Josepp
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      schrieb am 10.07.01 09:44:38
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      Servus zusammen,

      glaube einfach das es noch ein Stück tiefer geht und dann
      von gierigen Investoren nochmals ein paar hundert % hoch-getrieben
      wird. Bin mir blos nicht sicher ab wann ich kaufe?

      Mfg
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      schrieb am 10.07.01 10:09:29
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      @Meier M:

      Kauf am Bestern noch vor den Zahlen am 26.7.! Ich bin mir sicher, daß EXDS die Zahlen übertreffen oder zumindest einen guten Ausblick abliefern.

      M.
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      schrieb am 10.07.01 11:34:29
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      Ich schliesse mich Josepp an ! Exodus gehört IMO zu den aussichstreichsten Chapter 11 Kandidaten, die NASDAQ zu bieten hat.
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      schrieb am 10.07.01 12:08:30
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      Daily Stock Brief

      Updated: 09-Jul-01

      The Exodus Debt Problem and Coming Bankruptcy
      [BRIEFING.COM - Robert V. Green] Few companies have as big a debt problem as Exodus Communications. The problem with debt, of course, is that you must make the interest payments, regardless of all other conditions of your business. Exodus appears headed into a scenario where the interest payments will be larger than their gross margin. For a billion dollar company, that is unsustainable.

      The Size of The Debt
      Just how big is the debt?

      Here`s a list of the individual debt securities outstanding at Exodus (EXDS):

      Note Due Date Amount
      5% Convertible 2006 $52.8 million
      4 3/4% Convertible 2008 $500 million
      5 1/4% Convertible 2008 $575 million
      11 1/4% Note 2008 $275 million
      11 3/8% Note (Euro) 2008 $176 million
      10 3/4% Note 2009 $110 million
      11 5/8% Note (Euro) 2010 $1,000 million
      Other varies $407 million
      Total
      $3,470 million

      That`s almost three and one-half billion.

      The Payment Problem
      To problem is really quite simple. They don`t make enough money to both make the payments and run the business. They aren`t even close.

      The Q1 quarterly earnings report shows the extent of the problem in two basic numbers:

      Gross margin (revenue minus cost of goods sold): $92 million
      Interest expense: $70 million
      The interest expense will be larger in the soon to be reported quarter, because the most recently raised $500 million occurred in February. The gross margin will also decline, due to lower revenues.

      Our analysis shows that in Q2, Exodus will report a gross margin of only $80 million, only $5 million more than the interest payments that will be due.

      That leaves virtually nothing in the operating model for operating expenses. It should be obvious that this is no way to run a business.

      The Way Out?
      Two things have to happen simultaneously, before Exodus runs out of cash, to survive.

      Revenue grows quickly to cover both operating expenses and interest payments.
      Expenses are cut to a level where the gross margin covers both
      Revenue: Two strikes against Exodus here.

      The first strike is that revenue is already declining. The coming quarter is going to show revenue of $315 million, versus $348 in Q1. With an across the board recession in technology companies, you can`t count on Exodus somehow being immune. Any belief in explosive revenue over the next year borders is foolish.

      The second strike is declining gross margins. In the most recent quarter report, Q1 2001, the gross margin fell from 29% in 2000 to 26% in the most recent quarter. This means, even if Exodus grows revenue, they now have to grow the top line faster than before, because each revenue dollar costs more to operate.

      Expenses: Even severe cuts don`t help enough. Operating expenses were about $150 million in the most recent quarter. Even if you make the overly aggressive assumption that 50% could be cut, and still run the company, that`s $75 million a quarter.

      So, even at the most simple cash-flow analytical level, and giving Exodus the benefit of extreme assumptions, Exodus probably will miss an interest payment far before the principal is due. Here`s why.

      Interest payments (fixed) at $73+ million plus expenses (after generously giving them a 50% cut), equals $148 million per quarter. To be able to make both expense and interest payments therefore requires a gross profit of $150 million a quarter. At a gross margin of 30% (last year`s rate), it requires revenue of $500 million a quarter, or 60% more than the current quarter.

      If you don`t give Exodus any expense reduction, they need to grow revenue to $750 million a quarter to reach breakeven.

      Exodus must reach revenue levels somewhere between $500 and $750 million each quarter before they run out of cash.

      Cash
      How long does Exodus have?

      At the end of Q1, Exodus had $1 billion in cash. But, as a result of opening three additional data centers in Dallas, Amsterdam, and Paris, Exodus will only have about $550 million in cash at the close of June 30.

      Add up: gross margin of $80 million (Q2 estimate by Briefing.com), interest payments of $(75) million, operating expenses of $(150) million, and you get real cash losses around $145 million. This is pretty close to Exodus stated expected loss of $140 million for the coming quarter.

      With operating losses around $150 million per quarter, and $550 million in cash, Exodus runs out of cash in less than one year.

      Acquisition?
      Will someone rescue Exodus, and Exodus shareholders, by acquiring the entire company?

      The debt, at more than $3 billion, makes the total acquisition cost more than $4 billion. The only reason to acquire Exodus would be to add hosting to an existing product line, meaning it would probably be someone already owning internet infrastructure and expanding. That would make Genuity (GENU) a far more reasonable acquisition. At roughly the same revenue level, and current market cap, but with only $58 million in outstanding debt, Genuity would provide hosting facilities and internet infrastructure at far lower cost.

      More Capital?
      The capital markets are not likely to bail out Exodus.

      After all, Exodus just burned the capital markets in February for $750 million. They sold 13 million shares at $18.50 and $500 million of seven year 5 1/4% notes, convertible to stock at $22. With the conversion laughable now, and five year CDs at a bank still bringing close to 5%, it is safe to say there isn`t a single happy holder of the February notes, and it is only five months later. And the new shareholders have lost 90% of their money in those same five months.

      The capital markets won`t likely tolerate another offering of any kind by Exodus.

      Bankruptcy Likely
      Frankly, the only likely scenario for Exodus is bankruptcy, in our view, probably declared sometime in the early summer of 2002.

      It isn`t polite to predict bankruptcy, and most on Wall Street won`t do it publicly. You should also realize and understand that this statement is based primarily on two assumptions: first, slow to minimal revenue growth for Exodus; and second, an inability to raise additional capital. If either of these assumptions proves wrong, bankruptcy could be avoided. But, in our view, there is no evidence to contradict either of our assumptions.

      An Investment Play
      Before you accuse us of having the right news, but being late, allow me to remind you that Briefing.com has never had much positive to say for Exodus, except on the daytrading page. As a long term investment, we have always been pretty harsh of the business model, even as the stock rose during 1999.

      So what are investors to do? Depends on who you are.

      Long term holder, with deep losses: You won`t ever recover the losses. Deal with the emotional part of it separately, but sell. Any rally is short lived.
      Recent buyer, playing on rebound: If you get a profit situation, take it. It is ephemeral.
      Want to short? Not marginable anymore, so you can`t short it.
      Options: Possibly the only remaining play is buying PUTS. They trade pretty thinly these days, but if you can get a long term PUT that would be profitable when the stock is trading at less than $0.25, it may work.
      What Went Wrong?
      The Exodus strategy appears to have been:

      Build the biggest hosting infrastructure as fast as possible, and never mind the capital costs
      This is the roughly the same philosophy that built Global Crossing, which ironically now owns 20% of Exodus.

      After all, instead of trying the make the company have a profitable business model with $1 billion in revenue, the company raised $750 million last quarter and poured it into three more data centers.

      But if you can`t run a profitable business with $1 billion in revenue, what level revenue do you need?

      The Real Story
      Exodus is going to be the great example of the over-zealous capital markets of the internet bubble. The company eagerly partook of inexpensive capital, seemingly as much as it could engorge itself with, and built a huge infrastructure. The company seems to have assumed that growth would continue forever! It stopped in Q2 of 2001.

      Watch for Exodus` earning release on July 27. The only two numbers worth looking at are gross margin and interest paid. From now until the foreseeable future, the closer these numbers are to each other, the sooner Exodus files for bankruptcy.



      :D

      take care guy!

      RC
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      schrieb am 10.07.01 13:33:10
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      in deutsch bitte !!!
      Danke !!!
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      schrieb am 10.07.01 23:32:49
      Beitrag Nr. 20 ()
      Kurz übersetzt.
      Exodus ist in ca 3 Monaten pleite.
      Es gibt keine Hoffnung sich durch Übernahme, Kapitalmaßnahmen oder "in den Gewinn hineinwachsen".. vor dem Ruin zu retten....

      Rest in peace..die Flasche hat fertig
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      schrieb am 10.07.01 23:39:19
      Beitrag Nr. 21 ()
      korregiere es muss statt 3 Monate, 3 Quartale heissen
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      schrieb am 11.07.01 09:40:32
      Beitrag Nr. 22 ()
      @oneway

      Eine zugebenermaßen provokante Frage:
      Was passiert, wenn ein weltweiter Marktführer einer Wachstumsbranche seine Geschäftstätigkeit nicht mehr aufrecht erhalten kann?
      Das Webhostingumsätze bis 2003 um den Faktor 23(!) lt. Gartner Group steigen sollen wäre dann ja wohl ein Witz. Beides paßt einfach nicht zusammen. Entweder ASP hat eine Zukunft (davon gehe ich aus, auch wenn es enorme Preiskämpfe geben wird)oder ASP ist ein Flop und verschwindet auf Nimmerwiedersehen (kaum vorstellbar). Da Exodus über einen Marktanteil von weltweit 15% verfügt, denke ich eher, daß es nach einigen Schwierigkeiten irgendwann wieder so weitergeht, als ob nicht gewesen wäre... dann allerdings auf der Basis realer Bewertungen.

      Gruß goldgo
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      schrieb am 11.07.01 14:38:16
      Beitrag Nr. 23 ()
      Wieso sollte sich altera am 3.Juli für ein Unternehmen entscheiden das in 3 Quartalen pleite ist ???

      SANTA CLARA, Calif., July 03, 2001: Exodus Communications®, Inc., (NASDAQ: EXDS), the premier managed hosting provider for enterprises with mission-critical Internet operations, today announced that Altera Corporation (NASDAQ: ALTR), has chosen Exodus® to host and manage its Internet operations. Altera chose to outsource its Internet operations to Exodus based on the company`s ability to provide a complete value-added solution, rapid solution delivery and optimal security features, including managed intrusion detection. Altera`s pioneering system-on-programmable-chip (SOPC) solutions address its customers` needs from prototype to production. To successfully deliver on this commitment, scalable and reliable web-enabled information exchange and transactions among Altera, its customers and suppliers is vital......

      Grüße AktiKmel
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      schrieb am 11.07.01 16:17:54
      Beitrag Nr. 24 ()
      @AktiKmel
      Trotzdem geht es mit EXDS in den Keller. Leider, da auch investiert. Habe die Investition aber schon abgehakt. Laß es jetzt nur noch liegen und warte ab.

      Gruß
      Kirsche
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      schrieb am 11.07.01 16:28:21
      Beitrag Nr. 25 ()
      @Kische33

      "Habe die Investition aber schon abgehakt. Laß es jetzt nur noch liegen und warte ab"

      Ich kann Dir (und allen - und es sind nicht wenige - die solche Sätze bringen) zwei Bücher empfehlen :

      1) F.J. Buskamp : Mentale Börsenkompetenz
      2) J.Goldberg & R. v. Nitzsch : Behavioral Finance

      Vielleicht helfen sie Dir (die Bücher) !
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      schrieb am 11.07.01 16:32:26
      Beitrag Nr. 26 ()
      @chrashisnear
      Was steht denn da in etwa drin?

      Gruß
      Kirsche
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      schrieb am 11.07.01 18:13:11
      Beitrag Nr. 27 ()
      Janus Capital Cuts Stakes In Ames, Globix

      WASHINGTON -(Dow Jones)- Janus Capital Corp. cut its stake in Ames Department Stores Inc. (AMES) to 0.9% from 12%, according to an amended Schedule 13G filed Wednesday with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
      Janus beneficially owns 274,070 common shares. On Feb. 9, Janus beneficially owned 2,521,087 common shares.

      A Schedule 13G denotes a passive investment stake in a company. Filers aren`t required to provide a reason for any changes in stake, and aren`t required to detail any transactions.

      Rocky Hill, Conn.-based Ames is a discount retail chain that operates 455 self-service stores in 19 states and Washington.

      In a related filing, Janus also cut its stake in Exodus Communications Inc. ( EXDS) to 0.3% from 14%.

      Janus beneficially owns 1,491,735 common shares. On Feb. 15, Janus beneficially owned 60,279,978 common shares.

      Santa Clara, Calif.-based Exodus provides Internet system and network management software for companies with Internet operations.

      In another filing, Janus cut its stake in Globix Corp. (GBIX) to 6.1% from 12.2%.

      Janus beneficially owns 2,541,390 common shares. On Feb. 15, Janus beneficially owned 4,558,890 common shares.

      New York-based Globix provides Internet connectivity and advanced Internet services for businesses in the U.S. and Europe.

      Ron Orol; Dow Jones Newswires; 202-393-7853

      (This story was originally published by Dow Jones Newswires)




      Copyright (c) 2001 Dow Jones & Company, Inc.
      All Rights Reserved
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      schrieb am 11.07.01 19:14:26
      Beitrag Nr. 28 ()
      Sorry, my english is very bad.
      Can you tell this in "Deutsch" !!!
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      schrieb am 11.07.01 20:24:17
      Beitrag Nr. 29 ()
      die ecn´s sehen grausam aus!

      ohne mich, auch nicht bei 1.18!

      ;)
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      schrieb am 15.07.01 13:29:50
      Beitrag Nr. 30 ()
      Meingott wenn ich mir hier alles mal so durchlese, sind alles hellseher :confused:

      Es lohnt sich wirklich nicht mehr irgendwelche analyten meinungen anzuhören oder nachzuforschen und noch weniger lohnt es sich hier reinzuschauen.

      Mfg
      burna der noch keine Glaskugelbesitzt :laugh:


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