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      schrieb am 13.08.01 09:39:59
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      The Mystery of the Disappearing SDR Certificates

      James Turk


      Copyright 2001 © by The Freemarket Gold & Money Report.

      Here`s a mystery for you. It ranks high with any of the great thrillers solved by Sherlock Holmes, but this one is not fiction.

      I have been arguing that the US Treasury and possibly the IMF have been selling gold, and that their actions have depressed the gold price. But if I am right, then why has the reported weight of the US Gold Reserve and the gold stock of the IMF remained unchanged?

      The easiest answer to this question is also the most unlikely. This low probability answer is that the US Gold Reserve and the gold stock of the IMF are not being accurately reported.

      I dismiss this answer, almost completely but maybe not entirely because one never knows what could be happening. A deliberately reported inaccurate weight of gold would mean fraud, and I don`t see that deception to be a highly probable outcome. No, I think there has to be another answer.

      I touched upon the possible solution to this mystery earlier this year. I wrote (Letter No. 283, "Behind Closed Doors") that the portion of the US Gold Reserve stored at the depository in West Point, New York had been swapped with gold owned by the Bundesbank, and that the gold in the German central bank had been sold. So far, nothing I have seen refutes this contention, and correspondence from the Bundesbank has wrapped much of its gold policy in a cloak of confidentiality, adding credence to my conclusion. After all, if my supposition weren`t true, why not just disclose the facts to convincingly refute it?

      Be that as it may, there were some loose ends that in my mind needed to be tidied up in order to add more substance to my contention that much of the US Gold Reserve was swapped and then sold. And first among those loose ends was the accounting. How were all of these gold transactions being accounted for? How could all of this gold be put into play even while the reported weight of the US Gold Reserve and the gold stock of the IMF remained unchanged? And perhaps most importantly, why didn`t these transactions result in any apparent change on the balance sheet of the main perpetrators of this scheme, the Federal Reserve and the Exchange Stabilization Fund? There has to be some kind of accounting trail, doesn`t there?

      I`ve thought long and hard about these questions, but have been unable to answer them to my satisfaction - until now. And in this regard, I would like to thank David Walker, a tireless researcher who has an uncanny ability to read between the lines of tedious and dull government reports to get at the truth. Dave`s terrific work provided me with the motivation to continue researching an area that until recently had been largely unfruitful for me. And what is that area? A monetary instrument emitted by the International Monetary Fund called the SDR, an acronym for Special Drawing Rights a.k.a. `paper gold`.

      My intuitive sense for some time had been that SDR`s were the key necessary to unlock the door. By understanding the SDR, I expected that one could understand what was happening to the US Gold Reserve as well as put together a consistent accounting and the legal framework for the gold transactions that I contend have been taking place. But even though I thought SDR`s would provide the much sought after answer I was seeking, I was having trouble with a few things, mainly related to the accounting.

      For example, SDRs are so-called "paper gold", so this financial asset has to have a corresponding liability just like any other `paper` money, right? But I couldn`t find who or what is actually liable for the SDRs.

      After digging away in the IMF archives, I found the following in an IMF accounting manual called the Manual on Monetary and Financial Statistics, in a section entitled "Definition of Financial Assets: http://www.imf.org/external/indexlst.htm

      "Monetary gold and SDRs issued by the IMF are financial assets for which there are no corresponding financial liabilities."

      How about that? No wonder I couldn`t reconcile the accounting. Here`s a purely financial asset with no corresponding liability!?! SDR`s issued by the IMF are accounted in the same way that the IMF accounts for its stock of gold. I thought that only tangible assets like gold, houses and land had no liabilities. I never dreamed that a financial asset would not have a corresponding liability, but after this realization, one thing led to another and everything slowly but surely started falling into place.

      In "Behind Closed Doors" I included the following quote from the transcript of the January 31st, 1995 FOMC meeting:

      MR. TRUMAN. The legislation governing the objectives of the ESF was changed, I think for the most part in the mid- to late-1970s. The changes included the language that the government of the United States and the International Monetary Fund have the obligation to promote orderly exchange rate arrangements leading to a stable system of exchange rates.

      Since first reading this candid comment I have always been struck by it. Truman is relying upon this 1970`s legislation to provide the legal justification to use the ESF to bail-out Mexico. It therefore seemed clear to me that if I could figure out what was implemented in the 1970`s, I could then come to more precisely understand how the US Gold Reserve was being put into play.

      I had been unsuccessful, however, in trying to figure out what was the legislation to which Truman was referring. Well, I now think that he was referring at least in part to what is called the Second Amendment of the IMF.

      By way of background, when the gold crisis in the 1960`s was in full swing, the original IMF articles were amended. This First Amendment to the IMF created SDRs. Then here`s what the Second Amendment did. http://www.imf.org/external/np/exr/facts/gold.htm

      What changed under the Second Amendment to the Articles of Agreement of the IMF? The Second Amendment to the Articles of Agreement of the IMF, which came into effect in April 1978, eliminated the use of gold as the common denominator of the par value system and as the basis of the value of the SDR. The Amendment also abolished the official price of gold and abrogated the obligatory uses of gold in transactions between the IMF and its members… Under the Amendment, members undertook to collaborate with the IMF and other members with respect to reserve assets to promote better international surveillance of international liquidity.

      I draw your attention to the last sentence. I think this statement explains what Ted Truman was referring to. The term "international liquidity" is a euphemism I think that gives a carte blanche to do whatever the various IMF members want to do, using assets that are at hand or whatever assets that they create out of thin air, to intervene and manipulate any market anyway they want under the guise of "international liquidity" - which really means to let the banks create credit out of thin air for no other purpose but to keep the present system afloat so they can preserve their position of privilege and keep lining their pockets.

      The following quote is from the "User`s Guide to the SDR" published by the IMF. http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/FT/usrgsdr/usersc01.htm#3

      3. Improvements in the SDR after the Second Amendment: One of the major objectives of the Second Amendment of the Fund`s Articles of Agreement, which became effective on April 1, 1978, is to make the SDR the principal reserve asset of the international monetary system. To this end, the Fund`s Executive Board has taken a number of decisions to improve the yield on the SDR and its liquidity and usability. At the same time, certain obligations arising from participation have been eliminated.

      "Improvements" to you and me may sound innocuous, but in reality these `improvements` have only one objective - to keep the present system afloat by providing more power to governments working hand-in-hand with the banking cartel. So far I`m not sure of all the ways the SDR became more usable, nor have I yet discovered all the obligations that were eliminated when the Second Amendment "improved" the SDR. But I have learned enough about the SDR to conclude why the accounting of the US Gold Reserve does not appear to have changed. This mystery can be solved by first solving a second mystery, the case of the disappearing SDR Certificates.

      To begin, it is necessary to provide some background information gleaned from more hours of studying arcane IMF accounting than I care to admit, but I`ll keep it simple. And the way to do that is to show how `real gold` and Gold Certificates are accounted, because I have learned that `paper gold` and SDR Certificates are accounted essentially the same way.

      The US Gold Reserve does double-duty. It sits in the vaults at Fort Knox and the other depositories, but the US Treasury has issued Gold Certificates against it. The Federal Reserve owns these Gold Certificates, giving the Fed a claim to the 261.6 million ounces in the US Gold Reserve. Simple enough, and the same transaction is used for `paper gold` - the SDR`s - with just one small difference. The US Treasury has transferred its SDR`s to the ESF, so the ESF and not the US Treasury issued the SDR Certificates now owned by the Federal Reserve.

      Importantly, these SDR Certificates are being accounted for much the same way as the Gold Certificates. Both are carried at book value, which is much less than their market value. The Gold Certificates are carried on the Federal Reserve`s books at $11,046 million, which doesn`t sound like much. However, when you consider that these Gold Certificates are being valued at only $42.22 per ounce, this asset represents the entire 261.6 million ounces in the US Gold Reserve. And the SDR Certificates are being valued at - well, here is where it starts to get interesting. And here is where the mystery of the disappearing SDR Certificates comes into play. Look at the decline in the SDR Certificates in the accompanying table.


      Exchange Stabization Fund
      Federal Reserve


      (Assets)
      (Liabilities)
      (Assets)


      (in millions)
      (in millions)


      SDR
      SDR
      SDR
      SDR
      Gold


      Holdings
      Certificates
      Allocations
      Certificates
      Certificates

      Dec-98
      10,603
      9,200
      6,899
      9,200
      11,046

      Mar-99
      9,682
      8,200
      6,653
      8,200
      11,049

      Jun-99
      9,719
      8,200
      6,545
      8,200
      11,046

      Sep-99
      10,284
      7,200
      6,799
      7,200
      11,047

      Dec-99
      10,336
      6,200
      6,717
      6,200
      11,048

      Mar-00
      10,335
      6,200
      6,599
      6,200
      11,048

      Jun-00
      10,444
      4,200
      6,552
      4,200
      11,046

      Sep-00
      10,316
      3,200
      6,359
      3,200
      11,046

      Dec-00
      10,539
      2,200
      6,384
      2,200
      11,046

      Mar-01
      n/a
      n/a
      n/a
      2,200
      11,046


      The above table presents the SDR assets and liabilities of the ESF and the Fed. Though recent figures for the ESF are not available, as of August 9th the Fed still owns only 2,200 million of SDR Certificates, so presumably the SDR entries on the ESF balance sheet have not changed much since December 2000. To understand why the SDR Certificates are disappearing as well as where they are going, more background information is necessary.

      The US, like each IMF Member, owns SDR`s but is also responsible for the value of the SDR. Note #4 of the ESF`s financial statement for 1999 explains it thus: "Its [the SDR`s] value as a reserve asset derives, essentially, from the commitments of participants to hold and accept SDR`s and to honor various obligations connected with its proper functioning as a reserve asset."

      As of December 1998, the ESF owned 10,603 million SDR`s, but it had a liability for 6,899 million SDR`s. What does this liability represent? Here`s what Schedule B of the Articles of Agreement of the IMF says: "…0.888671 gram of fine gold shall be equivalent to one special drawing right." That means 35 SDR`s equals one ounce of gold. So the US has the potential obligation as of December 2000 - if required to make good on SDR`s issued - to pay to the IMF or its members 182.4 million ounces of gold, some 69.7% of the US Gold Reserve.

      That huge liability is pretty scary, but it is only a potential liability. Who knows whether the US will ever be required to make good on it, or if it does, whether the US will default just like it defaulted in 1933 on its obligation to pay US government bonds in gold and in 1971 on its obligation to redeem 35 dollars for one ounce of gold. Those are problems to worry about in the future. Of more immediate concern is the decline in the SDR Certificates. What is that all about? To answer this question and to solve this mystery of the disappearing SDR Certificates, we have to once again go back to basics.

      Why are the SDR Certificates declining? The basic answer is quite simple. The SDR Certificates MUST BE reduced if the ESF intends to use its SDR`s for any purpose, such as market intervention or swaps. In other words, the SDR Certificates are a claim against the SDR`s, so the SDR Certificate must be cancelled to remove any claims on the SDR before the SDR can be used by the ESF. But the amount of SDR`s owned by the ESF hasn`t changed except briefly in early 1999, so it seems that the SDR`s are not being used for any purpose.

      So what I think has happened is that the SDR Certificates are themselves being used by the ESF. Here`s what the IMF says about the use of SDR`s in swaps: "In accordance with Article XIX, Section 2(c), the Fund prescribes that...a participant, by agreement with another participant, may engage in an operation by which (a) one of the parties transfers [i.e., swaps] to the other party SDRs in exchange for an equivalent amount of currency or another monetary asset, other than gold."

      Thus, SDR`s cannot be swapped for gold, but there is no IMF regulation that prohibits the swapping of SDR Certificates for gold. So let`s take this observation to its logical conclusion, namely, that the ESF and/or the Federal Reserve has been swapping SDR Certificates issued by the ESF for gold owned by the Bundesbank, and presumably other central banks as well because we noted above that the Second Amendment states that "members undertook to collaborate with the IMF and other members" for the sake of international liquidity. So presumably, all IMF members are committed to undertake any scheme that the US government may hatch.

      This interpretation may also explain the strange response to Alan Greenspan by the Fed`s General Counsel, Virgil Mattingly, who has "no clear recollection of exactly" what he said during the January 31st, 1995 FOMC meeting, even though it seems most likely that the transcript accurately records him as saying "gold swaps". In his June 8, 2001 note to Greenspan, Mattingly states: "I can confirm that I have no knowledge of any `gold swaps` by either the Federal Reserve or the ESF." Is Mattingly being truthful? Yes, I think so, at least in regard to the precise choice of terms used in his note.

      Remember President Clinton`s exegesis on the definition of the word is? Lawyer Mattingly I think is playing the same game. By this line of thinking, neither the Federal Reserve nor the ESF do `gold swaps`. Instead, these transactions are probably called "SDR Certificate Swaps" or some other similar term, although the FOMC participants may use the unofficial term "gold swaps" as a short-hand moniker that is not only easier to say than the official name of the transaction, but also has the added advantage of clearly communicating the net result of the transaction.

      There is another important piece of corroborating evidence that SDR Certificates are being used by the ESF to hide its gold transactions. When several months ago I first read the audited financial statement of the ESF, I was struck by a peculiar phrase in footnote #4, which in addition to considerable explanatory text also provided a table of SDR purchases and sales during the year. The text stated that these purchases and sales were "equivalent of SDR`s". Therefore, I concluded that if they were "equivalent of SDR`s", SDR`s were not actually being used in the transaction. But I wondered, if they weren`t SDR`s, then what were they? We don`t know for sure what they are, but they are probably SDR Certificate transactions - not SDR`s, but only their "equivalent".

      Let`s put the size of these transactions into perspective. As of December 2000, the ESF owned 10,539 million SDR`s, against which it has issued 2,200 million SDR Certificates. Therefore, 8,338 million SDR`s are potentially `in play`, but we can refine this number given that it is the SDR Certificates and not the SDR`s that are important.

      The ESF by law cannot issue more SDR Certificates than it has SDR`s. The largest amount of SDR Certificates outstanding was 10,168 million in December 1995, a significant date because I have contended all along that government actions that have depressed the gold price began in 1996, which is the same year that the SDR Certificates began to decline. From this peak to the present, the SDR Certificates have been reduced by 7,968 million. Given that there are 35 SDR per ounce of gold, this reduction in the SDR Certificate account equates to 227.7 million ounces, or 87% of the US Gold Reserve. Does this mean that 87% of the US Gold Reserve has already been swapped? I don`t have the answer to that question, but I would like to make four important observations that do in fact suggest that substantially all of the US Gold Reserve has been put into play.

      First, note on the accompanying table the dates when the SDR Certificates began to decline rapidly. From 10,168 million in December 1995, the SDR Certificate account declined to 8,200 million by June 1999, or 19% over 3½ years. Now look at the decline beginning in the third quarter of 1999, which corresponds with the Washington Agreement signed in September of that year. In only 18 months the SDR Certificate account declined by 73%. Was there a panic to get gold into the market after the Washington Agreement to keep the gold price from rising? This evidence sure does support that conclusion.

      Second, readers will recall how the US Treasury changed in September 2000 the classification of that portion of the US Gold Reserve in West Point to "Custodial Gold". It is interesting and probably meaningful to note that this change occurred in the fiscal year ending September 30th in which there was a substantial decline in the SDR Certificates.

      In "Behind Closed Doors" I speculated that the reason for this reclassification was that the Mint`s accountants or its new director realized that it was misleading to continue calling this swapped metal as "Gold Bullion Reserve". This logic may also explain why more recently, the entire US Gold Reserve was reclassified as "Deep Storage Gold". If 87% of the US Gold Reserve has indeed been swapped, it may have been too obvious an admission by the US Treasury to reclassify nearly the entire US Gold Reserve as "Custodial Gold". Therefore, to give some semblance of proper accounting while not totally divulging the truth, the Treasury came up with the half-baked term "Deep Storage Gold". Further, it was my thinking that the Treasury, taking a lesson from lawyers Clinton and Mattingly, probably defined this term in some obscure Treasury accounting manual.

      What was a speculation on my part is now supported by a letter dated August 7, 2001, to Richard May from John P. Mitchell, Deputy Director of the US Mint. Mitchell states: "The gold in West Point was not reclassified - it was renamed to better conform to our audited financial statements." Despite providing five pages of supporting material with his letter, Mitchell does not explain how this `renaming` enables the Treasury to "better conform to [its] audited financial statements." The logical conclusion is that this better conformation arises because the strict application of prudent accounting principles no longer allows the Treasury to use the term "US Gold Reserves" because more than half - and possibly 87% of it - has been swapped. Given that the Treasury does not want to use the more accurate but alarming term "Custodial Gold", the US Gold Reserve has therefore instead become "Deep Storage Gold", allowing the Treasury to remain within the letter if not the spirit of the principle of full disclosure.

      The third observation takes the above changes and explains them in weights of gold. The 6,000 million drop in SDR Certificates from June 1999 to December 2000 represents 171.4 million ounces, or 28.6 million ounces (888.7 tonnes) per quarter. That`s a supply of about 3500 tonnes per year, which added to 2500 tonnes new mine production implies an annual demand of 6000 tonnes for the period of time after the Washington Agreement. Is this number reasonable?

      In my opinion it is reasonable. Noted gold analyst Frank Veneroso contends that annual gold demand has been running about 5000 tonnes, but this number reflects normal market conditions. After the Washington Agreement and the price spike, the market was anything but normal. Even though fabrication demand fell during that period, investment and monetary demand for gold soared. So it is not unreasonable to expect that more than 1000 tonnes of newly supplied gold from government dishoarding was needed in the months after the Washington Agreement to turn the price back from the +$320 level reached at that time.

      The fourth and final observation relates to a point I made in the last newsletter. I noted how earmarked gold has been shipped from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York at a rate of at least 40 tonnes per month beginning in September 2000, while also stating this new "dishoarding from the NY Fed smacks of desperation". The above table confirms this conclusion.

      The SDR Certificate account has not changed since the 4th quarter of 2000. With only 2,200 million remaining, the SDR Certificate account, while not depleted, is near rock bottom and one must ask how much more gold the US government is willing to throw at the market? I don`t think the answer to that question is "all of it", so essentially there is no more US gold available for swapping. Consequently, with these SDR Certificate swaps eliminated as a source of supply, another source of gold had to be located to fill the gap between supply and demand.

      In the last newsletter I suggested that the IMF is this new source. That`s just a supposition on my part, but it seems logical that IMF gold is being shipped out of the FRB of NY. The quantities being shipped are so large, the gold must be coming from a large hoard, and the IMF has, on paper at least, one of the world`s largest. But regardless of whose it is, this gold is being shipped at a rate greater than gold is being mined each month in South Africa, the world`s largest producer. That volume of shipments smacks of desperation to get gold into the market, and the reason is clear. Because the SDR Certificate swaps have ended, a new source of gold supply is needed to keep the gold price from exploding upward.

      In conclusion, it is becoming very obvious that the US government has put itself in an incredible pickle. But we`ve seen this happen before.

      In the 1960`s the US government dishoarded over 9000 tonnes of gold rather than admit that the dollar had been debased and was no longer worth only $35 per ounce. Now it appears that perhaps as much as 7,000 tonnes (227.7 million ounces) has been swapped for essentially the same purpose - to intervene in the market to fight the truth, rather than admit that the dollar has again become very debased relative to gold. ¤

      August 14, 2001

      http://www.fgmr.com
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      schrieb am 13.08.01 19:40:44
      Beitrag Nr. 2 ()
      Ich habe mir zwar nicht die Zeit genommen den ganzen Artikel ausführlich zu überprüfen, aber mir kam er ziemlich unseriös vor. Wenn man noch nicht mal richtig schreiben kann, dass 261.6 million ouces bei 42,22$ pro ounce 11,045 billion Dollar sind (im englischen heisst billion soviel wie Milliarde im deutschen)
      und nicht 11.046 million....
      es gab auch noch weitere Aussagen, die mich stutzig gemacht haben.
      z.B.:"to intervene in the market to fight the truth, rather than admit that the dollar has again become very debased relative to gold".
      -Der Goldstandar ist schon seit Jahren abgeschafft, warum also dieser Schlußsatz. Er macht keinen Sinn!

      Meiner Meinung nach ist der ganze Artikel eine Verarschung, seid also vorsichtig aus den Informationen Schlussfolgerungen oder gar Anlageentscheidungen zu ziehen!
      -In nem anderen Thread hat schon ein user auf den Artikel Bezug genommen (von wegen 87 % der Goldreserven verkauft...)

      gruss chris
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      schrieb am 13.08.01 20:55:17
      Beitrag Nr. 3 ()
      Danke für die Blumen.

      Habe aber auf die Verschwörungstheorie hingewiesen.
      Generell halte ich Verluste mit Swaps in jder Höhe für denkbar,
      on Fort Knox dabei draufgeht glaube ich eher nicht.
      Als Lektüre empfehle ich:
      FIASCO von Frank Partnoy, Blut an den weißen Westen der Wall Street Broker.


      Kannst du etwas zum Plunge Protection Team sagen?
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      schrieb am 13.08.01 22:49:02
      Beitrag Nr. 4 ()
      @Chris_st81
      Also, wieso ist es denn unseriös, wenn jemand elftausend Millionen schreibt statt elf Milliarden? Das kann ich nicht nachvollziehen.
      Und der Goldstandard wurde ja 1971 endgültig und offiziell abgeschafft. Wäre es denn Deiner Meinung nach auch unsinng gewesen, im Januar 1980 zu behaupten, der Dollar hätte deutlich gegen Gold abgwertet? Immerhin musste man da ja 805 USD pro Unze zahlen statt 35 nur neun Jahre zuvor.
      Falls Du die Aussage für 1980 als zulässig und wahr erklärst, ist Dein Einwand hinfällig.
      Ich halte den Artikel für eine höchst brisante Sache, aber es wird noch ein bisschen dauern, bis es genug Leute verstanden haben und ihre Folgerungen daraus ziehen. Zudem muss die Sache verbreitet werden (weiter mailen usw.)
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      schrieb am 14.08.01 12:42:28
      Beitrag Nr. 5 ()
      Haben denn die Sonderziehungsrechte, bzw. die hier bedeutsamen SDR-Zertifikate überhaupt noch eine formale Bindung ans Gold?
      Über die Zertifikate hab ich jetzt auf die Schnelle nichts gefunden, aber die SDRs entsprechen einfach einem Währungskorb und haben zur Zeit einen Wert von ca. $ 1,30 oer so.
      Daß in den 60er Jahren mal ein Goldequivalent festgelegt wurde hat ja nicht viel zu sagen.

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      schrieb am 14.08.01 14:51:46
      Beitrag Nr. 6 ()
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      schrieb am 14.08.01 17:09:16
      Beitrag Nr. 7 ()
      @golden_bear,

      wenn jemand 11,046 million schreibt, verstehe ich darunter 11 millionen und 46 tausend.-Das es 11 tausen millionen heisst hab ich wegen des Komma nicht erkannt. Diese Schreibweise ist zwar irritieren, aber natürlich nicht unseriös.
      Natürlich ist deine Aussage, das der Dollar 1980 gegenüber dem Gold abgewertet hat richtig. Ich sehe (ganz im Gegensatz zu dem Autor des engl. Artikels) darin nur nicht so ein riesen Problem, dass die Regierung heute mit 7 000 Tonnen interveniert.-Die Begründung, dass sie dies 1960 getan hat zieht nicht, da es damals ja noch den Goldstandart gab. Ich sehe heute keinen Grund dafürd, warum die Regierung den Goldpreis mir solchen Mitteln niedrig halten sollte.Ich denke eben man muss bei dem Artikel vorsichtig sein, da ich den EINDRUCK habe, dass er unseriös ist bzw. die Spekulationen sehr gewagt sind.
      gruss chris
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      schrieb am 14.08.01 19:53:57
      Beitrag Nr. 8 ()
      @Chris
      Die Antwort darauf íst ganz einfach:
      http://www.gold-eagle.com/gold_digest_00/hamilton121500.html

      und


      http://www.financialsense.com/series2/tactics4/metals.htm

      Die FED muss über den ESF eingreifen, um das Finanzsystem stabil zu halten. 7 US-Großbanken halten über 95 % der Derivate. Wenn Shortpositionen nicht schnell genug geschlossen werden können, z.B. 1999 nach Wash. Agreement, haben die Banken gewaltige Probleme. Der ESF soll in dieser Zeit 975 bis 1000 t Gold auf den Markt gebracht haben, um den Goldpreis wieder zu drücken und die Verluste der Großbanken zu minimieren.

      Dass dies mehr als eine Vermutung ist, zeigen doch die ständig wechselnden Definitionen des US-Goldes in den Tresoren der FED. Da gibt es mal "tief liegendes Lagergold", "Custodial Gold" usw. Papiergold läßt sich einfacher handeln. Es braucht keine Sicherheitsvorkehrungen. Und es ist vor allem ein bilanzunwirksames Geschäft.
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      schrieb am 14.08.01 21:55:37
      Beitrag Nr. 9 ()
      @fid,
      danke für die links, hab mich mal in das Thema eingelesen und find es ziemlich interessant!
      Werd mich auf jeden Fall weiter damit beschäftigen, auch wenn das Ganze schon fast zu krass ist um wahr zu sein....
      gruss chris
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      schrieb am 15.08.01 10:14:56
      Beitrag Nr. 10 ()
      @Chris
      Noch einige interessante Links: http://csf.colorado.edu/forums/longwaves/dec00/msg00036.html- Hier muss man nicht viel lesen!

      und für alle, die die Zeit haben: http://www.gata.org/test.html.

      Interessant die neuesten Goldenbar-Reports: http://www.goldenbar.com/.

      Gruß
      FID
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      schrieb am 15.08.01 15:10:10
      Beitrag Nr. 11 ()
      Laßt euch doch nicht verrückt machen!

      Die USA sind ein Staat.
      Die Fed ist ein privates (!) Kreditmonopol.
      Der IWF ist eine internationale Organisation.

      Der obige Artikel ist falsch, weil er die Fed als staatliche Behörde behandelt. Alle Schlußfolgerungen sind deshalb auch falsch. Deshalb kann es auch nicht sein, daß die USA Gold "verzockt" haben, sondern höchstens die Fed!

      Ihr braucht euch doch nur anzusehen, wem die Fed gehört und welche Banken die meisten Derivate halten und wer den Goldmarkt beherrscht.

      Wäre die Fed staatlich, so wäre ein Swap zwischen Treasury und Fed irrelevant.

      Die Sonderziehungsrechte sind eine Forderung der Zentralbanken gegen den IWF, also internationales Zentralbank-Geld.

      Die SZR stellen in der Zentralbankbilanz ein Aktivum dar:
      http://www.bundesbank.de/de/statistik/zeitreihen/regwidat/pd….
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      schrieb am 15.08.01 15:56:48
      Beitrag Nr. 13 ()
      und was sollten die damit deiner Meinung nach machen?
      New York? London? Frankfurt? Wien? Tel Aviv?

      Nein, das ist keine Lösung.

      Die Araber haben eine viel mächtigere Waffe ...

      ... Öl!
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      schrieb am 15.08.01 17:13:07
      Beitrag Nr. 14 ()
      @GoldenBear
      Seit ich deine postings verfolge bist du ein Gold-Bulle. Du willst den Goldpreisanstieg - in allen möglichen Foren - regelrecht herbeischreiben. Kein Wunder, da du ja nach eigenen Worten "voll in Gold engagiert" bist. Tollsste riesige Artikel, ob Deutsch oder Englich, werden bemüht. Jedoch die Wirklichkeit sie weigert sich. "Irgendwann" wird auch Gold wieder mal steigen. Vielleicht auch schon morgen. Aber "irgendwann" bin ich auch tot. Vielleicht auch schon morgen. Ich glaube du hast Probleme anderslautende Fakten zu akzeptieren und denke dabei auch an deine wiederholt hartnäckigen postings, dass die Kursk deiner Meinung nach von den Amis versenkt worden sein soll.
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      schrieb am 15.08.01 23:27:22
      Beitrag Nr. 15 ()
      4:30p ET Wednesday, August 15, 2001

      Dear Friend of GATA and Gold:

      GATA Chairman Bill Murphy this morning issued a press
      release about GATA consultant James Turk`s recent
      discovery about the disappearing SDRs. The release
      got very good distribution through Business Wire and
      good notice throughout the financial business, including
      posting by Bridge News and CBS MarketWatch. The
      release is below.

      CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer
      Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc.

      * * *

      GATA Says Much of U.S. Gold Reserve is Encumbered

      August 15, 2001 9:25 a.m.

      DALLAS, Aug 15, 2001 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- "Hard as it is to fathom, it
      appears that much of America`s gold is essentially gone or in severe
      jeopardy," says Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Chairman Bill Murphy.

      Murphy points to an astonishing discovery by GATA consultant James
      Turk in his new essay, The Mystery of the Disappearing SDR
      Certificates, published at the GATA Internet site, www.GATA.org.
      An SDR, which is acronym for Special Drawing Rights, a.k.a. "paper
      gold," is a monetary instrument issued by the International Monetary
      Fund, representing special drawing rights for one 35th of an ounce of
      gold.

      Turk has discovered that the SDR certificates on the books of the
      U.S. Treasury Department`s Exchange Stabilization Fund have
      dwindled from 9,200 millions to 2,200 millions.

      Exchange Stabilization Fund
      (Assets) (Liabilities)
      (in millions)
      SDR SDR
      Holdings Certificates
      Dec. 1998 10,603 9,200
      March 1999 9,682 8,200
      June 1999 9,719 8,200
      Sept. 1999 10,284 7,200
      Dec. 1999 10,336 6,200
      March 2000 10,335 6,200
      June 2000 10,444 4,200
      Sept. 2000 10,316 3,200
      Dec. 2000 10,539 2,200
      Source: US Treasury Bulletin


      Turk explains why this is important:

      "The U.S. Gold Reserve does double duty. It sits in the vaults at
      Fort Knox and the other depositories, but the U.S. Treasury has
      issued Gold Certificates against it. The Federal Reserve owns these
      Gold Certificates, giving the Fed a claim to the 261.6 million ounces
      in the U.S. Gold Reserve. Simple enough, and the same transaction is
      used for `paper gold` -- the SDR`s -- with just one small difference.
      The U.S. Treasury has transferred its SDR`s to the Exchange
      Stabilization Fund (ESF), so the ESF and not the U.S. Treasury
      issued the SDR Certificates now owned by the Federal Reserve."

      Turk continues:

      "The ESF by law cannot issue more SDR certificates than it has
      SDRs. The largest amount of SDR certificates outstanding was
      10,168 million in December 1995, a significant date, because I
      have contended all along that government actions that have
      depressed the gold price began in 1996, which is the same year
      that the SDR certificates began to decline. From this peak to the
      present, the SDR certificates have been reduced by 7,968 million.
      Given that there are 35 SDR`s per ounce of gold, this reduction in
      the SDR certificate account equates to 227.7 million ounces, or
      87 percent of the U.S. Gold Reserve...."

      "Everything is fitting into place," Murphy says. "It appears that
      the SDR certificates are being used by the ESF to hide its gold
      transactions from the American public."

      GATA has long claimed that central bank gold loans are two
      to three times the commonly accepted 5,000 tonnes cited by
      the gold industry. "Eighty-seven percent of the U.S. gold
      reserves is very close to 7,000 tonnes, which would increase
      to 12,000 tonnes the official sector gold out on loan in some
      way," Murphy notes.

      "No wonder former Treasury Secretaries Robert Rubin and
      Lawrence Summers and current Secretary Paul O`Neill have
      refused to directly answer members of Congress regarding
      their gold market queries," Murphy goes on. "The ESF reports
      only to the president of the United States and the treasury
      secretary, which means that these men are very aware of the
      mechanics of manipulating the gold price."

      "This is most disturbing," Murphy says, "because there is a
      pattern of deception, first by treasury secretaries not answering
      pointed questions and then by others who apparently are
      involved in or knowledgeable about the U.S. government`s
      intervention in the gold market and who are conveniently
      forgetting the facts."

      Murphy cites a June 8, 2001, memo to Fed Chairman Alan
      Greenspan from Federal Reserve lawyer A. Virgil Mattingly,
      who denies any knowledge of gold swaps, even though the
      transcript of a 1995 meeting of the Federal Open Market
      Committee records him as using those words to explain the
      authority and apparent activity of the ESF.

      Then in an August 7, 2001, letter, John P Mitchell, deputy
      director of the U.S. Mint, offers no explanation why 1,700
      tonnes of U.S. Gold Reserves stored at West Point, N.Y.,
      were reclassified in September 2000 from "Gold Bullion
      Reserve" to "Custodial Gold." In May this year all 7,700
      tonnes of the U.S. gold reserves in Treasury Department
      depositories were reclassified as "Deep Storage Gold."

      Mitchell says the U.S. Gold Reserve was "not reclassified
      -- it was renamed to better conform to our audited financial
      statements."

      "But Mitchell offers no explanation why that change is being
      made now. Could it be that these changes to conform to
      accounting principles were necessary because of the
      dramatic reduction in SDR Certificates and encumbering
      of the U.S. Gold Reserve?" Murphy asked.

      "This is most frightening," Murphy says. The U.S. Government
      defaulted on its gold obligations in 1933 and 1971. Could it be
      happening all over again?

      -END-
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      schrieb am 16.08.01 17:00:13
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      @columbus
      1. Ich schreibe schon seit langem nur noch hier.
      2. Ich bin für jedes Argument offen, aber die Argumente der Gold-"Gegner" in den Zeitungen sind meist so niveaulos, dass sie mich umso sicherer machen "gold"richtig zu liegen.
      Du wunderst dich, dass ich noch immer nicht zum Gold-Bären konvertiere? Erstaunlich! Dein Problem.
      Die Wirklichkeit weigert sich? Oh nein, die Uhr tickt. Aber du kannst ja Gold-Puts oder Nasdaq-Calls kaufen, schon mal mein Beileid.
      3. Ad Kursk: Ich sagte nicht, die Amis hätten die Kursk absichtlich versenkt, sondern dass die Ursache für die Explosion ein Zusammenstoß mit der USS Memphis gewesen sein könnte. Dies halte ich auch heute noch für die wahrscheinlichste von drei diskutierten Varianten.
      Davon erstmals gelesen habe ich von einer westlichen, nicht etwa russischen Quelle!
      Die Memphis machte sich danach auf einer tagelangen Schleich- und/oder Notfahrt auf nach Norwegen, wo dann 12 Matrosengattinen aus USA eingeflogen wurden? Wozu wohl? Zum Partyfeiern? Oder weil es bei dem Zusammenstoß auch Tote auf der Memphis gab?
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      schrieb am 16.08.01 21:15:24
      Beitrag Nr. 17 ()
      @ golden-bear

      also ich möchte Dich ermutigen weiterzumachen mit Deinen Postings, denn ich finde das ganze ungeheuer spannend, wenn auch ernüchternd.
      Die Frage , die ich mir seit vielen Wochen stelle ist folgende :
      Die involvierten Banken kennen die Situation doch ganz genau. Warum decken die sich nicht zwischen 265 und 275 $ wieder ein ? Dann sind sie das Problem los. Die Gelegenheit war da. Vielleicht nicht für die komplette Menge, aber doch einen ordentlichen Teil der verkauften Menge.
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      schrieb am 16.08.01 21:54:15
      Beitrag Nr. 18 ()
      Wenn ich helfen darf:

      Du schreibst:...Vielleicht nicht für die komplette Menge, aber doch einen ordentlichen Teil der verkauften Menge....

      Die Shortpositionen liegen im Bereich von mindestens 5000 (bestätigt!) bis 15000 Tonnen! Wenn die BoE mal gerade 20 Tonnen verkauft, reagiert der Goldpreis schon! Und wir reden nicht von Papiergold, sondern von physischer Eindeckung. Nein, die Shorter sind und bleiben gefangen - wenn sie sich nur zum kleinsten Teil eindecken möchten, würde der Goldpreis sofort massiv steigen. Gerade darin liegt aber auch das Dilemma: Die Politik ist eben nicht an einem Crash der Grossbanken interessiert und deckt diese nach Möglichkeit solange es eben noch geht. Da die Amis zudem eine Schnorrer-Politik des hohen Dollars auf Kosten des produzierenden Auslands betreiben, sind sie sowieso an einem niedrigen Goldpreis interessiert. Hier wäscht eine Hand die andere!

      Gruss

      TFischer
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      schrieb am 16.08.01 23:10:40
      Beitrag Nr. 19 ()
      es sei denn, TFISCHER, das die inzwischen im Konsens handeln.

      Vielleicht weil sie wissen, daß sie sonst das Pulverfass in die Luft jagen, wenn sie die shorter ausquetschen.

      Vielleicht aber auch, weil sie das ungeliebte Zeug so loswurden, lange genug gut getarnt unter der öffentlichen Vorstellung, alles sei nur verliehen.

      Das war zumindest für die realtive Preisstabilität ganz gut.

      Hätten sie von vornherein verkündet, sie würden sich von ihrem Gold durch normale Verkäfe trennen ( und nicht durch Verleihen, und dann umbuchen ) dann wäre der Preis wohl ins bodenlose gefallen. Sicher auch schlecht für die involvierten Notenbanken.

      So hat jeder sein Modell gefunden. Die einen verkaufen, und machen dazu eine Volksabstimmung. Begründen das mit notwendigen Wohltätigkeiten.

      Die anderen versteigern.

      Wieder andere verleihen, und berichtigen das dann irgendwann in der Bilanz.

      Und dann gibts noch diverse Methoden zur Verfüssigung, wie CDRs und darauf ausgegebene Berechtigungsscheine, wobei die CDRs dem physischen Gold gleichgestellt sein sollen.

      Dinge gibts.

      Und dann gibts Leute, die felsenfest wissen, verliehenes Gold kommt zurück, es gebe keine shortpositionen.

      Die werden recht behalten, jedenfalls werden wir die Auswirkungen iener shortposition nicht zu spüren bekommen, weil deren Pleite genauso unmöglich ist wie der Konkurs der japanischen Banken, die ja ebenfalls pleite sind.

      Der Unterschied ist lediglich der Grad des öffentlichen Wissens um den Pleitezustand, die Japaner sind da in der öffentlichen Erkenntnis weiter. Hier wird die Erkenntnis die Oberfläche nicht erreichen.

      Also gab es letztlich kein ausgeliehenes Gold.

      SEP
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      schrieb am 17.08.01 11:18:23
      Beitrag Nr. 20 ()
      @ sep

      vor ein paar Jahren hätte ich Dir noch rechtgegeben, daß die Öffentlichkeit von der ganzen Sache nichts erfährt.
      Da hätten wir diese Diskussion auch gar nicht führen können.
      Aber im Zeitalter des Internets ? Wie lange kann man den Fragen der GATA noch ausweichen ?


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