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[mrjohns]

Kamikaze Attack on the WTC and the pentagon
on Sept. 11th 2001


Thoughts and comments to the current situation
September 16th 2001



History: On September 11th 2001 at about 9 am local time (EST) in New York, United States of America a commercial plane of American Airline carrying passengers hit the North tower of the World Trade Center. The tower was hit by the plane in the upper half of the tower. It crashed in the tower very precisely, perforating basically the whole width of it. There was a big explosion with a fireball following the plane crashing in the building. The plane seemed to stay in the building and explode inside, however the front must have come through partly at the other side of the tower, and in this way basically cutting the tower. However, the tower did not collapse at this time and the upper top stayed on the rest of the building, with a huge creek, that was showing the fire and steam coming out of the building. The ambulance and fireworkers arrived and there was big confusion. People must have thought there was an accident involving a plane or helicopter that hit the building by mistake. Some people in the building were thinking about an earthquake or bomb.

About 18 minutes later, while everybody in and around the building was still trying to rescue himself and finding out what happened a second plane was coming closer to the building. The plane, also commercial and carrying passenger, flew a curve and clearly flew towards the second tower of the WTC. The south tower was hit by the plane, which was still in a not straightforward position (due to the curve it was flying before). The south tower was struck as well as the north tower on the top half of the building. It also perforated the tower, broke through with its front but got stuck in the building where it exploded. Here as well smoke and fire was coming out of the upper half of the building. It became clear to everyone now that this cannot be a coincidence but a mastermind attack on the United States. Immediately word spread around the world that either the Palestinians or Osam Bin Laden (suspected Saudi-arabian terrorist living in exile in Afghanistan) must have been involved. For some people Saddam Hussein from Iraq also seemed to be a prime suspect. People in the buildings were trying to run out and rescue themselves, with people on the upper half jumping apparently out of the windows after waving for help. Fireworkers and policeman that came for help after the first blast were hit by the second blast in unawareness. After the first attack the television stations around the world transmitted the second blast live on TV.

Word spread now that there was another attack on the pentagon that destroyed part of the building. First there was reports of a car bomb that exploded and did not cause too much damage. But quickly word spread about another airplane that crashed into the pentagon. At the same time the confusion got bigger as there was talk about another plane being in the air and hitting for the pentagon. At that stage nobody could clearly distinguish anymore of what has happened where, if the pentagon was hit already or not, by which means (car or plane) it was hit etc. The TV pictures within this hour from the first attack changed between the various locations and made it difficult to get a clear picture. After a while the pentagon was shown burning, but not in detail. By that time all airplanes were ordered already to land immediately and got directed to various airports.

However another plane that was in the air was shown flying above apparently Washington where the pentagon is. This plane however disappeared from the TV reports after a few second of show. Only some time later word spread that a fourth airplane crashed somewhere in Pennsylvania. This was the last attack in the series on that day that left parts of Manhattan completely devastated and parts of the Pentagon destroyed.

After about 1 hour of the first attack on the north tower the south tower first started collapsing in itself burying probably most people that was still in the building or close to it. The tower collapsed straight into itself from top to bottom, as is the case with a manmade intended explosion that is meant to take down buildings without destroying the area around it. The north tower followed soon after in the same way as did the south tower, collapsing in itself, leaving even more people buried. The skyline of Manhattan was full of smoke. Part of the pentagon was shown burning and smoking. It was announced that about 50.000 people are working in the WTC and about 20.000 people in the pentagon. Also it was announced that the part of the pentagon that was hit was under reniovation efforts and that because of this reason probably the number of casualties is not as high as it could have been.

From the first attack on the Media nearly worldwide was full of pictures and reports about all the events that have taken place. As it seemed expected that the attacks might continue the president and other staff members were put under highest security measures. All airports were closed down, many buildings like the White House were evacuated. The whole scene on TV, reports and actions taken gave the audience a strong similiarity with American action movies. Many nations in the world begun tightening their security measures putting a large part of the world on highest alert status.

For the next days nearly worldwide the media was full of reports at all times and a huge amount of channels. CNN immediately started to give a name to the events calling it “Attack on America”. Many Media stations worldwide followed taking up these terms. The reports were giving statements from the American president George Bush condemning the attacks and telling this people to fight the people who undertook these deeds. Immediately he went to the conclusion that it was a terrorist attack. He announced an American war against terrorism and all countries that harbor terrorists, already at that stage pointing out that Osam Bin Laden is a prime suspect and Afghanistan a country that supports him. Worldwide most leaders started to send their condolosense and offer full support in the fight against the people responsible. Over the days more and more leaders and nations joined in this and showed their solidarity. People went out on the street in many countries to pray, light candles and show their shock and feelings for the American people. Bush seemed to be in continous contact with world leaders to find allies for his actions following. The EC and Nato were stating clearly their support in any actions taken by America, especially also of military nature.

In the media the headline was changed to “Americas new war” after Bush announced publicly that this is considered not only as an attack but a war against the civilized world. He and his staff, especially Powell, pointed out that they will take any necessary action to fight the “evil” and take it out by its roots. The war was declared as a war between the good (America and Allies) and the evil (all nations that do not support America in this matter). By this declaration more and more countries (eg. Pakistan) seemed to be reluctant to put themselves on the American-European side by declaring their full support. It was morte and more clearly pointed out that Osama Bin Laden is the prime suspect in their eyes and that Afghanistan will be military hit by the nations united against the attacks. Osama Bin Laden clearly announced several times through Pakistani and Afghan media and the Taliban leaders that he was not involved in this in any way and that he does not know who is behind that. However, he also stated that it is just against America as for all evil deeds they have done in the past. Saddam Hussein took a similar position on the matter, such separating themselves as allies in the rally against the “evil”. America also started announcing that they will retaliate not only in a single action but in a long enduring process that will not only hit one person or country but everyone that supports terrorism. The Taliban leader declared that Osama Bin Laden did not have the means of carrying out such an attack, as there is no necessary infrastructure available in the poor country of Afghanistan, Osama Bin Laden can only communicate with satellite phone and he is under surveillance and house arrest by the Taliban. He also asked the USA to please consider their actions as it would be devastating for a poor country such a as Afghanistan and could lead to a destabilization of the whole region. As many American leaders and politicians pointed out that they do not wish in their attack between military and civilians (as their prime suspect aklso did not do) many Afghans were reported to have fled the country.

No clear proof for Osama Bin Ladens involvement has been shown until September 16th 2001. Nevertheless he is the prime suspect and an attack on Afghanistan seems to be only a matter of hours or days. The Taliban government has declared to wage a holy war in case that the Americans or their allies should take military action against their country.

Several people of various Arabian countries were put under detention, questioned and partly arrested in several countries like Germany, Belgium, USA etc. There were attacks against Arabian looking people in several countries, declared by the attackers as revenge. People of different or Arabian looking had to experience resentment and fear by western looking people. Some people declared a religious war between the Islam and the Christian. However seeing this development it seems world leaders have started to try calming down the situation and looking for allies in the Islamic countries and declaring them as comrades as well in the fight against terrorism. Many Islamic countries are gladly accepting as they also fear the revenge. Russia has also announced its full support in the fight against terrorism. However Russian leader Putin with many other world leaders has started to ask America to consider carefully any action that they are taking and that any action can be only based on facts that clearly determine the responsible parties. Even in America now voices for this kind of movement seem to get louder. Fear of emotional actions from the US that might end in a 3rd World War is growing around the world.

One after the other video tapes are published that seemed to be disclosed before, eg. About the destruction of the pentagon. A partial passenger list of the various flights were published, however not complete and apparently leaving away names of the suspected terrorists on board. It was announced that the terrorists themselves must have taken the plane under their control shortly after take-off with knives and carpet cutters, then forcing the crew, at least in one plane according to a telephone conversation of one passenger with her husband to the back of the plane. Between 3 and 6 terrorists are claimed to be aboard each airplane, at least one having a pilots license and taking over control. It was announced that it is unimaginable that any pilot would fly even under force into the WTC or pentagon and kill so many people. According to telephone conversations apparently the plane that hit somewhere in an isolated area in Pennsylvania, did not hit its actual goal as for the efforts of some passengers trying to avoid a desaster on ground. There are rumours that the plane was intended to hit the capitol or the White House and that even the Airforce One with the President was intended to be hit.

After a few days a list of the terrorists was published on the media, stating 19 people, most of them with Saudi-arabian passport, some studied in Germany, some lived in Florida. Only from one of the accused the family was interviewed and stated that their son did not have any involvement with the attack, but was a normal passenger himself. He never belonged to any religious or terrorist group. He had a girlfriend in Bochum, Germany that reported him missing after the crash. Still a complete list of passenger with the accused terrorist names marked was not published.

The government of the USA is still shouting for retaliation and apparently, according to media sources, most of the American people are fully behind the president and any actions that he intends to take. Britains Tony Blair again emphasized his complete solidarity. In Europe countries are getting torn between full support in a military action, partial support on the base of facts and pure solidarity but no intended involvement (Italy). Pakistan is trying to get the allowances from US to send a delegation to Afghanistan in order to convince the Taliban to hand over Osama Bin Laden to justice. However, US announced that they do not expect the Taliban to cooperate and do not believe in Osama Bin Ladens statements that he was not involved. Also they start accusing Iraq of an involvement.


Questions: Why did the US and other international secret and intelligence agencies did not know about such a big plot, that involves surely a lot of people. There is always people tend to talk and the agencies have their people in nearly every organization. Also they observe known terrorists and their activities including telephone conversation.

Why did the USA immediately accuse foreign terrorists and countries for the attack instead of looking onto their own folk,, which has previously also been involved in terrorist attacks and assassinations

How was it possible for 2 planes only in New York to cheat the flight observation system.

How could foreign terrorists have been trained so well as to hit the buildings in such a way as described before, flying a corner, hitting them both on about the same level and in the same way, forcing both buildings to collapse in the same way.

Who informed the terrorists about the exact architectural structure of the buildings, the necessary height etc. Who was the people behind it. Were American citizens involved

How can such young people (as the accused terrorists were) have enough training and experience as to perform such an attack

Who helped so many terrorists in cheating all security and get on the plane with weapons (even knives). And more important what did they need knives and carper cutters for, when there is an emergency axe, steel cutlery in first class and bottles which can be broken and used as weapons

Why does the US persist on Osama Bin Laden as the prime suspect, even when he denies the deed.

Why should Osama Bin Laden deny the deed when it was such successfully carried out and would have had a clear message to the American people

How could Osama bin Laden plan and carry out this attack when he is under steady observation of the Taliban government, international secret and intelligence agencies, living in a very poor infrastructure and has to use a satellite telephone that will be under constant observation.

From what financial means could Osama Bin Laden possibly finance such an attack. His private worth is apparently only US$ 200 Mio, which would surely not be sufficient for taking out this action

Why there is no further investigation about the actual pilot having hit the building for any reason

Can a voice box really be destroyed by fire as it was supposed to have happened for the pentagon plane

Why is, in such a perfect planning, the renovated part of the pentagon hit. Was it intended to kill people but not a big number

Why was the WTC being hit in such a way that it only collapsed after a certain time, killing a huge amount of people but also giving many people the possibility to run to safety

Why was the WTC being hit exactly 18 minutes after for the second time. Was there no earlier flight

How could the buildings collapse in such a way. Is it possible that there was some additional explosions that were prepared in such a way as to help it collapse in itself

How can it be calculated and trained that the plane is the right size perforate the building, stopping just after breaking through on the other side, but exploding in the middle of it. And not only one time as a coincidence but twice with seemingly exact measurement

Why there was no official, President, Foreign, Defence Minister etc. injured or killed in the attack

Is it so difficult to find the black boxes of the New York crashes. And will there be any chance to recover data from them

Why there is only such a short film about the plane cruising over Washington. Why did nobody follow it and film it crashing after all the other attacks that happened prior to it

Who else could be behind the attack and who could have helped and financed it

What government or country could have been involved in training pilots, giving sufficient financial support and establish a year-long system of complete isolation of the terrorists for this attack

Why does the majority of the accused hijackers carry Saudi Arabian passports, and why, then, Saudi Arabia is not getting under accusation

Why was the actual complete passenger list never published (with the names of the hijackers for example highlighted)

What reason could be behind preparing such an attack, but not admitting it to the world and not profiling themselves with the deed

What could be the background and interpretation behind an attack carried out in such a way and hitting these targets in such a way

Who will profit from this attack or the possible actions and war following it

How important is the connection between Bush being President and his fathers war against Iraq. And when it was planned long before who or which government was it intended to hit

Is Bush taking the opportunity to wipe out the enemies of his father or does he really believes in his suspects

In what way do Israel and other nations use this attack for there own goals

What effects does this event have on world or US economy or certain companies and what could have been presumed results

How was the perfect weather conditions influence the intended date and time of the attack

What is the background information of the date and time of the attack. Is there any deeper meaning behind it

Was the attack intended purely to hit America or was it really intended to attack the western world

Why there is so much sympathy in the world for an attack on a western country and especially the US. And more important why there is not the same amount of sympathy for people of other nations and continents

Why the 1st world is still describing itself as civilized and good (compared to the evil attackers), while exploiting the 3rd world and supporting purely western interests on any account

Has nobody noticed the huge amount of people dying every year directly or indirectly by actions undertaken by the western world and especially America

How could the system be changed in such a way that their will be no need of terrorist attacks which are often described as self-defence or retaliation themselves. And is it possible at all to wipe out all kind of terrorism and brutality in the world. Will there not always be people and groups that are not agreeing to the current policy

Did military action against terrorist attacks ever change the readiness of people and groups to commit such crimes again

Are suicide attackers are not prepared to die in anyway. Why then they should be frightened by any government measures, especially if they might have no friends or family that can be hurt

[GerhardS]

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Danke, GerhardS

[mrjohns]

Quelle: mein Freund Sven Kilian, er hat in den letzten Tagen zieml. viel recherchiert, auch mit piloten geredet u. diesen Artikel verfasst.
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