Second Life Aktien: Top-Chancen + Top-Zeitpunkt - 500 Beiträge pro Seite

[Frakt@l]

Second Life – DER Wachstumsmarkt.
http://www.secondlife.com/

Die Anzahl der user von second life wächst täglich, aktuell schon über 8,5 Millionen Nutzer weltweit. Das ganze ist schon lange kein Spiel mehr, sondern es entwickelt sich zu einem riesigen Geschäft.

Es gibt mittlerweile viele Menschen, die von second life leben, die dort eine Firma gegründet haben und in der virtuellen Welt ihre Produkte verkaufen. Dafür gibt es eine Währung – den Linden Dollar – den man in reales Geld tauschen kann. Das Umtauschverhältnis liegt aktuell bei ca 265 Linden Dollar pro US Dollar, oder ca 365 Linden Dollar pro Euro.

Auch viele große Firmen engagieren sich in Second Life. Man nutzt das enorme Interesse, um die Produkte virtuell darzustellen und zu promoten.

Viele der Firmen in Second Life sind Aktiengesellschaften deren Aktien auf Börsenplätzen in second life gehandelt werden können. DAS GANZE BEGINNT GERADE ERST.

Die Second Life International Stock Exchange (trading symbol: ISE) wurde erst vor wenigen Monaten gegründet.
http://www.intlstockexchange.com/

Mittlerweile sind dort bereits 11 Firmen gelistet und 2 weitere sind gerade im IPO Status. Das ist eine riesige Chance für jeden Anleger, von Anfang an dabei zu sein und sich noch billig einzudecken. Wenn das erst von einer breiten Masse entdeckt wird, dürften die Kurse durch die Decke gehen!!

Beim IPO werden die Aktien in der Regel für 1 Linden $ pro Stück angeboten. Der Kurs der ISE selbst hat sich seit dem Start im April 2007 bereits mehr als verdoppelt!! Man muß sich nur den Kursverlauf der realen Börsenaktien ansehen, um das enorme Potential zu erkennen.

Ich kann nur jedem raten, sich mit dem Thema zu beschäftigen. Hier liegen enorme Chancen und der Zeitpunkt zum Einstieg könnte nicht günstiger sein.

Fraktal

[SCP]

Die Menschen werden immer bekloppter.

[Kotzolani]

mann mann welche drogen nimmst du? geh mal vor die tür und schau dir das reale leben an...

[DScully]

SL ist Müll, das weiß jeder der sich da ma ne Stunde reingelogt hat. Die Nutzerzahlen sind sinnlos da die Zahl der Leute die wirklich Online sind gerade mal vergleichbar mit nem 0815 Onlinegame ist.

[daimlerfreak]

dachte neben KMA global gings nicht mehr schlimmer

[Frakt@l]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.943.109 von Kotzolani am 30.07.07 21:42:03

Das ist genau der Punkt: man muß sich ansehen, wie sich das reale Leben entwickelt! Und wie entwickelt es sich? Das Internet nimmt immer größeren Raum im Leben der Menschen ein, das fing mit e-mails an, dann wurden Informationen übers Internet angeboten und mittlerweile ist es DIE Plattform für das business. Überleg dir mal, welche Rolle Firmen wie Ebay, Amazon oder Google heute spielen, die es vor ein paar Jahren gar nicht gab. Ich kann mich noch gut daran erinnern, wie man über Amazon gelacht hat, als die Firma an den Start ging. Es hat kaum einer verstanden, was dort an Chancen liegt, weil es einfach ein komplett anderes Denken und Handeln erfordert hat.

Sieh dir mal an, wieviel Zeit die Leute heute in Diskussionsforen (wie auch hier bei w:o) oder mit blogs verbringen! Second Life ist nur die konsequente Fortsetzung dieses Trends.

Für ernsthaft interessierte an einer Analyse der Veränderungen im realen Leben kann ich nur das Buch 'Die Welt ist flach' (Original 'The world is flat') von Thomas L. Friedman empfehlen. Die Welt gehört denen, die Trends früher erkennen als andere!

Second Life mag aktuell noch nicht die riesigen Nutzerzahlen haben, die jeweils online sind, aber es sind immerhin in der Regel um die 50 000, die gleichzeitig angemeldet sind sind. Aber das wichtigste ist, dass sich Second Life bereits durchgesetzt hat und von vielen finanzkräfigen Firmen in der Entwicklung gefördert wird, um z.B. die IT Infrastruktur so zu gestalten, dass das massive Wachstum beherrscht wird. Auch die (zugegebenermassen etwas dürftige) Graphik wird in naher Zukunft wesentlich verbessert.

Noch einmal: hier geht es darum, von Anfang an dabei zu sein.

Fraktal

[Diamond-Investor]

US-Firmen flüchten aus Second Life
Quelle: http://www.morgenpost.de/desk/1030880.html

Begeisterung der Unternehmen für Second Life lässt nach
Quelle: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/92851

Ernüchterung folgt "Second Life"-Hype
Quelle: http://futurezone.orf.at/it/stories/207534/

Second Life: Mit den Nutzern gehen die Firmen
Quelle: http://www.diepresse.com/home/techscience/internet/317493/in…

usw. usw.

Gäääääääääähhhhn!

[Frakt@l]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.943.403 von Diamond-Investor am 30.07.07 22:03:08

... nah, dann schlaf mal schön ...

Fraktal

[pianola]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.943.657 von Frakt@l am 30.07.07 22:22:37

20% Zinsen jährlich
Da investier' ich doch sofort

--

To start trading, pay the "ISE ATM" to deposit money in your account. Even if you don't trade, you will receive 20.4% interest annually. The interest will be compounded daily at a rate of 0.05%.

http://www.intlstockexchange.com/login.php

[franziskaHM]

@frakt@l
wie bekloppt muss man/frau sein um diese schei... "SL" in irgend einer weise gut zu finden?????? TREND?? da gibt es andere...
das internet nimmt/wird in (naher) zukunft sicher einen großen bis sehr großen teil unseres lebens bestimmen - SL wird es (HOFFENTLICH) nicht sein!!!!
da gibt es viel spannenderes...
meine "vor"-schreiber haben schon genug dazu gemailt!

[ProMaiLer]

hm ich find die idee garnicht mal so übel

[Frakt@l]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.944.418 von franziskaHM am 30.07.07 23:41:52

Ich glaube, du hast nicht richtig verstanden, worauf ich hinaus will. Man muß SL nicht gut finden, um davon zu profitieren! Man muß nur sehen, was die Masse gut findet und entsprechend investieren, um davon zu profitieren. Das ist hier nicht anders wie bei Aktien im realen Leben. Da ist auch nicht jede Firma, deren Kurs sich super entwickelt, ein großes Vorbild ...

Aber egal, w:o war schon immer ein guter Kontraindikator ...

Fraktal

[Frakt@l]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.943.883 von pianola am 30.07.07 22:40:13

Probier' es doch einfach mal aus. Tausche ein paar Euro in Linden Dollar, z.B. hier
https://secure-web13.secondlife.com/currency/index.php
oder hier
https://www.wicexchange.com/

eröffne einen account bei der ISE und zahle das Geld dort ein. Dann wirst du jeden Tag 0,05% Zinsen gutgeschrieben bekommen und nach einiger Zeit tauscht du das Geld wieder zurück in Euro.

Du musst dafür natürlich auch bei SL angemeldet sein und einen Avatar haben, sonst kannst du das Geld nicht auf den account einzahlen. Aber das ist alles kostenlos.

Fraktal

[Nastassja]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.946.781 von Frakt@l am 31.07.07 10:15:56

1. warum kann man hier nicht ganz entspannt, vor- und nachteile einer
solchen story diskutieren?

2. fraktal ist KEIN dummschwätzer, wie soviele hier ... ...

3. es ist eine chance; ich habe längst aktien bei sl.

[Frakt@l]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.955.975 von Nastassja am 31.07.07 19:27:02

Hallo Nastassja,

danke für die Blumen.
Vielleicht erkennt ja doch der eine oder andere noch die Chancen ...

Fraktal

[525700]

Nunja, es werden hier nur virtuelle Aktien virtueller Gesellschaften gehandelt. Da ist selbst der vorbörsliche Bereich solider.
Das Problem bei den 20% ist, daß hier die SL-Leitung recht einfach einen Schnitt machen kann und dann der Kurs des L$ nur noch 700:1€ beträgt. Dann ist die schöne Verzinsung schon wieder weg.

Ihr solltet doch lieber in reale, vorbörsliche Unternehmen investieren. Da könnt ihr dann wenigstens einmal im Jahr an realen Hauptversammlungen teilnehmen.

[Nastassja]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.963.550 von 525700 am 01.08.07 10:43:28

> ... solltet doch lieber in reale, ... ...

das eine schließt das andere keineswegs aus !
DIVERSIFIKATION nennt man das - glaube ich ... ...

nasti

[525700]

zu viele Unbekannte sind in der Gleichung enthalten. Wer dort sein Glück versuchen möchte: Viel Glück

[Frakt@l]

Fortune: It's not a game

The 3-D online experience Second Life is a hit with users. IBM's Sam Palmisano and other tech leaders think it could also be a gold mine.
By David Kirkpatrick, Fortune senior writer
February 23 2007: 3:59 PM EST

(FORTUNE Magazine) -- Last November in Beijing, IBM gathered 2,000 employees, with 5,000 more watching on the web, to unveil a series of global initiatives on digital storage, branchless banking, and the like. During the presentation, CEO Sam Palmisano walked up to an onstage PC, logged onto the online three-dimensional virtual world called Second Life, and took command of the cartoon-like "avatar" that represents him there. He then visited a version of Beijing's Forbidden City built on virtual real estate, dropping by an IBM (Charts) meeting where avatars controlled by employees in Australia, Florida, India, Ireland, and elsewhere were discussing supercomputing. Among the initiatives announced by Palmisano that day: a $10 million project to help build out the "3-D Internet" exemplified by Second Life.

By early January more than 3,000 IBM employees had acquired their own avatars, and about 300 were routinely conducting company business inside Second Life. "The 3-D Internet may at first appear to be eye candy," Palmisano writes in an e-mail interview, "but don't get hung up on how frivolous some of its initial uses may seem." He calls 3-D realms such as Second Life the "next phase of the Internet's evolution" and says they may have "the same level of impact" as the first web explosion.

There's no question that Second Life's initial uses have gotten a lot of media attention in recent months. And indeed, Second Life's admixture of fantasy and reality is intoxicating. The software you download from www.secondlife.com lets you imagine you're stepping inside your PC's screen to inhabit and move about in a brightly colored, three-dimensional world that resembles Grand Theft Auto crossed with Lord of the Rings. Within that digital realm you can go anywhere (though some areas are private). There are stores, beaches, golf courses, bars, ski areas, high-rise office buildings, fantastical anime cities, medieval role-playing regions, and sex clubs - lots and lots of sex clubs. Many people indulge their lascivious fantasies, trading sweet nothings via text while triggering little X-rated animations. Like many new technologies, including videotapes and the Internet itself, much of Second Life's growth appears to be driven by lust for the pleasures of the electronic flesh.

None of that is created by Linden Lab, the 110-employee San Francisco company behind Second Life. It's all hatched by the users. Indeed, members invent not only the world but themselves: Each person dreams up his own avatar. A control panel allows you to adjust your avatar's body, including eye color, cheek thickness, pant length, and girth. You can make it resemble your real self, or someone - or something - else. Want to look like Britney Spears? No problem. Perhaps you'd like to be a crocodile with a chef's hat? You can do that too. Once you've designed yourself, you can walk around the virtual world, using the arrow keys on your keyboard. If you'd prefer, you can fly. You see the world on your screen from the vantage point of your avatar. One thing you'll always see: a lot of other avatars. It's a highly social medium.

That's a big part of Second Life's allure. If the web offered people the liberation of communicating with almost anyone, Second Life gives you the chance to meet people in wildly varying contexts, and do it in a body you created. (This may explain why so many avatars appear buff, invitingly dressed, and about 20 years old.) It offers endless social possibilities with people around the globe - text chat is ubiquitous, and voice conversation is coming - and the sort of exploration that keeps its fans glued to their screens for hours.

This virtual world - don't call it a game - has become a phenomenon: Second Life, which is free for casual use, has about 334,000 regular visitors. More than 2.6 million have checked it out, a figure that in mid-January was growing by about 20,000 per day.

But what's beginning to catch the attention of IBM and other huge corporations is something potentially far more profound than a new online pastime. It's the ability to use Second Life as a platform for a whole new Net - this one in 3-D and even more social than the original - with huge opportunities to sell products and services. Bill Gurley, a venture capitalist with Benchmark Capital, says he invested in Second Life because it's like Microsoft (Charts) or eBay (Charts) - a venue in which thousands of ancillary businesses can sprout. (Gurley, a former Fortune columnist, is now on Linden's board.)

The company's backers include some of the world's smartest, richest, and most successful tech entrepreneurs. The chairman and first big outside investor is Mitch Kapor, creator of Lotus 1-2-3, the spreadsheet application that helped begin the PC software revolution. Other investors include eBay founder Pierre Omidyar, Amazon (Charts) CEO Jeff Bezos, and Microsoft chief technology architect (and inventor of Lotus Notes) Ray Ozzie - each credited with a seminal networked product of our age.

They think Second Life may be next, and some respected tech pundits agree. Says Mark Anderson, author of the Strategic News Service newsletter: "In two years I think Second Life will be huge, probably as large as the entire gaming community is today."

In the case of IBM, it's not just a matter of touting the wonders of Second Life; it's really using it - both as a business opportunity and as an internal tool. Ian Hughes, one of the company's "metaverse evangelists" - an actual title - says Second Life stimulates collaboration among a dispersed workforce. ("Metaverse," a word coined by Neal Stephenson in his 1992 novel, Snow Crash, is gaining currency as the generic name for virtual worlds.) "We're all used to teleconferences," says Hughes. "But in Second Life we gather and mingle before the meeting, and when it finishes, some people stop and talk again. We start to form social networks and the kinds of bonds you make in real life." Hughes, whose Second Life handle is ePredator Potato, often attends IBM meetings as a pudgy avatar with spiky green hair.

But while the immersive 3-D environment that Second Life is pioneering could shape the way we interact online, it's not certain that Linden Lab will be the main beneficiary. Second Life's software is so hard to use that fewer than one in six who try it are still online 30 days later. Linden's servers frequently falter under the weight of its growing audience, and critical functions such as search sometimes break down. Though Second Life is the biggest virtual world, the company remains minuscule - 2006 revenues were less than $11 million - and competitors are nipping at its heels. They, too, smell opportunity.

When Second Life opened in June 2003, there was nothing there, nowhere to go, and nobody to see. CEO Philip Rosedale had made the surprising decision to leave Second Life empty. Colleagues argued for inventing a game to show what was possible, but Rosedale, now 38, thought the service would work best if it let users create their own world. Says venture capitalist Jed Smith, an early investor who sits on Linden's board: "We decided then to be a platform and not a game." Not incidentally, that meant Linden - unlike the purveyors of popular online games such as World of Warcraft - wouldn't have to spend any money creating its content.

At first, Second Life seemed destined for oblivion. Only 1,000 people were regularly visiting after five months, and money was running out. Smith and Kapor, who had invested the lion's share, considered pulling the plug. But they were astonished by the creativity of Second Life's few denizens. They were dreaming up cities, jungles, games, clubs, and all manner of idiosyncratic avatars.

Impressed by this passion, Kapor wrote another seven-figure check, and Second Life relaunched in January 2004, this time with more focus on user creativity and in-world entrepreneurship. Linden took the advice of Lawrence Lessig, the Stanford Law School guru on intellectual property, who recommended letting users own their own content. That, he argued, would encourage them to create more. The company also made it possible to exchange Second Life's currency, called Linden dollars, for the real thing (taking a fee along the way). Residents could thus build, own, or sell their digital creations. Second Life had become a real economy.

And Linden changed its business model. It began generating revenues primarily from the sale of virtual land. So far Linden has sold 3,500 private islands, each equivalent to 16 acres in the real world. (The world inside Second Life currently occupies about 150 square miles. But it's growing, and as population increases, Linden simply creates more digital real estate.) Each island costs $1,675 to purchase and $295 monthly to maintain; some buyers subdivide their land and rent or sell it at a profit. In essence, customers are renting space on the 1,750 servers that store the digital representation of the land. One of the biggest landowners is IBM, which rules over 24 islands. Since Linden revamped its business model to focus on real estate, users and revenues have grown at least 10% every month.

In this realm any resident can become an entrepreneur. There are nightclub owners, jewelry makers, landscapers, and even pet manufacturers. In December, Linden Lab estimated that 17,000 residents had positive cash flow in Linden dollars, with about 450 generating monthly income in excess of $1,000 (that's U.S.). One resident, whose avatar is known as Anche Chung, has become a celebrity of sorts by claiming to have accumulated a real-world net worth of more than $1 million in Second Life real estate. She now employs 30 people in China who build things and otherwise improve the land she buys and develops for resale. Another Second Lifer developed a gambling game called Tringo, a cross between Tetris and Bingo. It became so popular that it has been licensed for Nintendo's Game Boy advance. These days, about $600,000 is spent daily throughout Second Life, for an annual GDP of about $220 million.

Some of that money is going to Nike (Charts), Sony BMG, Toyota, Sun, Starwood, and many others, which have operations in Second Life. Some sell virtual clothing and other merchandise for avatars; some even move real product. IBM has built stores for Circuit City and Sears, where, for example, you can mock up a kitchen with Sears appliances to see how it would look. ABN Amro, the Dutch bank, recently opened an office in Second Life that will offer information about products and services as well as job openings. (Experts are already warning companies to avoid the pushy, ham-handed early web marketing that enraged Net devotees. Second Lifers have taken flaming to new levels of imagination: One group that opposes virtual real estate development pelted Anche Chung with a barrage of flying phalluses.)

All these enterprises need guidance and help building things. Linden Lab counts 65 companies that have sprung up inside Second Life to serve real-world business customers. CTO Cory Ondrejka says about 350 people work full-time for such companies, and there are at least $10 million worth of such projects underway.

For now Linden is enjoying its moment in the limelight and trying to cope with the infrastructure-straining influx of new visitors. That's not a minor problem: If its servers crash or its software is hard to use, Linden risks missing its chance to enchant millions of new users. In part to address that, and because of its belief that customers should be in control, Linden has taken another radical step: It announced that the software that residents use to view and navigate Second Life would become available for anyone to examine and modify. The aim is to speed up improvements. Eventually Linden intends to reveal the code for every aspect of Second Life.

CEO Rosedale hopes that other companies' virtual worlds will interoperate with Second Life. That could benefit Linden so long as it remains the biggest operator. "Say IBM uses our code to build its own intranet version that's somewhat different from Second Life," he says. "A user may say 'Wow, this virtual thing IBM has built is pretty cool. Now I want to go to the mainland.' And we have another customer." In effect, Linden hopes to control the standards for virtual worlds so that they become the equivalent of the HTTP and HTML standards that define the web.

That could lead to what Rosedale thinks will be Linden's greatest long-term opportunity: running some of the lucrative services necessary to keep all these linked virtual worlds functioning smoothly. "We can recreate Google's business in this environment," Rosedale says, not to mention Network Solutions' web-address registration business and Paypal's online-payments system.

Easier said than done, of course. Metaverses will become a very competitive field, says Irving Wladawsky-Berger, vice president for technical strategy at IBM. These are just the earliest days of exploration, and needless to say, the outcome is anything but certain. "Today," says Wladawsky-Berger, "virtual worlds are where video and VCRs were in the early 1980s, or where the web was in 1993."

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[Frakt@l]

Wer sich ein paar Linden Dollar verdienen möchte, hier ein Tip:

einfach der "Banking Beck" (Ticker Symbol auf der ISE: BBIB) group beitreten und schon erhält man 40 L$ gutgeschrieben.

Hier der press release der Bank dazu vom 6.8.2007:

....Upon reaching a subscription of 250 users, we will:

Post a 'group dividend' where everybody subscribed to the Beck Banking Ltd group will receive L$40 - just for being a member of the group.

...

Fraktal

[Frakt@l]

Aktuell: Die Deutsche Bank in Second Life:
http://www.q110.de/de/galerie_einblick.html?link=int;from-in…

Fraktal

[Dauerregen]

Ginko Financial, das vielleicht bekannteste Kreditinstitut in Avatarland Second Life, kann die Einlagen der Kontoinhaber nicht mehr auszahlen. Rund 200 Millionen der Spielwährung Linden-Dollar, im Gegenwert von immerhin fast 750.000 echten US-Dollar oder 540.000 Euro, sollen auf der Bank gelegen haben. Doch zuletzt wurden die Schlangen vor den virtuellen Geldautomaten immer länger, und irgendwann war das Geld dann alle.

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/94404

Aber Frakt@l fällt dazu bestimmt auch was gaaaaaanz kluges ein

[Frakt@l]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.175.057 von Dauerregen am 15.08.07 20:53:32

Nein, dazu fällt mir nichts ganz kluges ein. SL ist völlig neu und die Risiken sind entsprechend. Die Banken in SL haben enorm hohe Zinsen versprochen und auch gezahlt, bis die Misere mit Ginko kam. Es gibt dazu in SL reichlich Diskussionen unter den Banken, wie das in Zukunft verhindert werden kann. Die Zinsen sind inzwischen deutlich gesunken, auch weil die SL Banken jetzt wesentlich mehr Bargeld vorhalten, um dem run von Kunden standhalten zu können.

Letzlich zeigt sich, dass es im SL dieselben Regeln gibt wie im realen Leben (RL) und das Finanzsystem in SL beginnt sich darauf einzustellen. So gibt es mittlerweile Versicherungen für Einlagen etc. Auch die Kurse an den Börsen in SL haben unter der Krise gelitten. Es ist auch hier so wie im RL, wer diese Krisen zum Einkauf nutzt, kann große Chancen wahrnehmen. Natürlich ist das Risiko in SL auch entsprechend hoch, keine Frage!

Fraktal

[Frakt@l]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.175.057 von Dauerregen am 15.08.07 20:53:32

Noch als Ergänzung von einer der SL Banken:

http://www.bcxbank.com/

08/12/2007 Notice:BCX Now Using SLRisk In light of the Recent collapse of Ginko Fiancial, There has been a very vocal call for Banks to provide more safety to their depositers. We have listened, and as a reult of this we have chosen to to begin using SLrisk in an effort to be better informed in regards to Loans that BCX gives out. We will also provide finacial reporting using the SLEC approved financial statement form. This for will provide better information regarding our daily operations and the overall health of the bank.

Fraktal