WIE HAT DÄUBLER GMELIN ES GESCHAFFT MINISTERIN ZU WERDEN????? - 500 Beiträge pro Seite

[klatschi]

auf wiedersehen deutsch-amerikanische freundschaft!!!

gerade auf n-tv live... das ist UNGLAUBLICH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

...däubler gmelin ist die dummheit in person!! soviel inkompetenz hätte ich ehrlich gesagt keinem sozi zugetraut

[GauJones]

Sie ist ein Kind der Frauenquote.

GauJones

[bearmarketrally]

Wieso?

Welchen Schwachsinn hat Däumling-Gmelix jetzt wieder vom Stapel gelassen?

[FloKalle]

Frage: "Sie haben erwähnt, dass es für das Ablenken von innenpolitischen Problemen in unserer Vergangenheit Beispiele gibt. Was meinten Sie damit"?

Antwort: "Gar nichts"

*looool*

[klatschi]

sie widerspricht sich selbst, weicht aus, wirkt nervös... ihre ausreden sind einfach nur lächerlich

[ToskanaOskar]

#4 Sie meinte den aktuellen SPD Wahlkampf. Das darf sie nur nicht laut sagen. Sonst gibts wieder Ärger vom Schröder

[farniente]

Sie hat es korrigiert.

Sie wollte nicht Bush beleidigen sondern Maggie Thatcher !!!

[bearmarketrally]

Herta BSE Gmelin

[klatschi]

mensch gerhard schmeiss die herta raus!!!!!

[WOR]

Ich mag die Zicke auch nicht. Recht hat sie aber.
Wer mit arroganten Amerikanern zu tun hat, kann das nur bestätigen.

[derschwarzeRitter]

klatschi,

ne Nummer kleiner darfs schon sein.

wenn die kriegshysterische paranoide Clique im Weissen Haus weg ist, normalisiert sich alles.

übrigens : ein amerikanischer Patriot (so was schätze ich auch !) würde im umgekehrten Fall nicht seinem Minister in den Rücken fallen, sondern sagen : the fuckin´Kraut

halt mal schön den Ball flach.....

[pco]

Sie hat sich "hochgeschlafen"...

[Neidhammel]

HDG sollte wenigstens zu ihrer aussage stehen und nicht stattdessen noch einen journalisten diskreditieren. Von dessen anwesenheit sie allerdings nix wusste. Dumm gelaufen. Nun weiss die US regierung wie die sozis intern über sie reden.

[farniente]

klatschi

hast es immer noch nicht kapiert.
Sie hat alles klargestellt.

Sie wollte nicht Bush beleidigen sondern Maggie Thatcher !!

[FloKalle]

Und Englisch spricht se auch nicht

[luschimoch]

die frau is fertsch.

[oswald11]

Die Frage müßte lauten: Wie hat Bush es geschafft!

[klatschi]

HAHAHA die fängt bestimmt gleich an zu weinen

[hic]

Versteht Ihr Nichtschwaben sie überhaupt ?

[klatschi]

scheiss n-tv

auf n24 gehts weiter!!!!!!!

[FloKalle]

Scheiß N24, auch Phönix gehts weiter

[klatschi]

wieso zeigen die die pressekonferenz nicht weiter... so viel habe ich noch nie gelacht bei einem nachrichtensender

SPD

[yoennie]

Keine Sorge!

Die Nachkriegsgenerationen in den USA wissen weder wer A. Hitler war noch wo Deutschland überhaupt liegt!!

Sind halt nicht die "Hellsten", die MC Donalds Generation.

[gooseflesh]

@yoennie

DAS kann ich nur bestätigen exactly

[derschwarzeRitter]

yoennie,

da kannst du recht haben.

die Jungen tippen eher auf nen Schreibfehler und denken da an Bret "the Hitman" Hart.....

[oswald11]

Al Bundy for President!

[Hellwig1]

Auf Phönix ist die Pressekonferenz weitergegangen.
Die guten Fragen kamen erst zum Schluss.

[diggit]

oh oh,
die pressekonferenz ging aber voll nach hinten los.
ich glaub kaum das einer der journalisten sie morgen entlasten wird

[klatschi]

jetzt bleibt nur zu hoffen das die tagesschau um 8 die besten und lustigsten ausschnitte bringt HAHAHA dann morgen noch ein paar statements von guido & co und die wahl is gelaufen HAHAHA

[traumsuse]

Das Blöde ist,
auf amerikanischen Sendern wurden Teile der PK auch live übertragen.
Deren Übersetzung habe ich leider nicht mehr mitbekommen.

[mtrader.]

Gmelins ausraster auf der Titelseite der New York Times

Bush-Hitler Remark Shows U.S. as Issue in German Election
By STEVEN ERLANGER


Justice Minister Herta Däubler-Gmelin reportedly compared President Bush`s tactics to Hitler`s


OLOGNE, Germany, Sept. 19 — A reported remark by a German minister comparing President Bush`s tactics over Iraq to those of Hitler envenomed a close-fought German election today and demonstrated how anti-Americanism had moved to the center of political debate here.

The regional newspaper Schwäbisches Tagblatt said today that Chancellor Gerhard Schröder`s justice minister, Herta Däubler-Gmelin, had said: "Bush wants to divert attention from his domestic problems. It`s a classic tactic. It`s one that Hitler also used."

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Her remarks were reportedly made on Sunday during a conversation with representatives of the trade union IG Metall.

In a statement to the newspaper, Ms. Däubler-Gmelin, 59 and a member of the chancellor`s Social Democratic Party, denied comparing the two men, but did not deny comparing their tactics. "I didn`t compare the persons Bush and Hitler, but their methods," she said.

Later tonight, she told ZDF television, "I just did not say that; it is as simple as that."

Mr. Schröder said tonight that he believed Ms. Däubler-Gmelin when she said she had not compared the two men. He added that anyone who compared Mr. Bush to a criminal would have no seat in his cabinet. He did not elaborate.

In Washington, Ari Fleischer, the White House spokesman, was asked at a news briefing about the minister`s comments and the effect of such election campaign statements on the German-American relationship. After speaking of the importance of the long relationship, he added, "But this statement by the justice minister is outrageous, and it is inexplicable."

Germany`s conservatives, who are challenging Mr. Schröder in national elections on Sunday, immediately called for her resignation.

Friedbert Pflüger, a Christian Democrat, called Ms. Däubler-Gmelin`s statements outrageous and said, "This is what happens when the government allows the moral coordinates to deteriorate so far."

He was referring to Mr. Schröder`s decision to distance Germany from the United States over Iraq, a course that has proved politically rewarding even as it has opened a sharp rift with Washington.

Mr. Schröder has said Germany will not take part in any attack on Iraq, whatever the United Nations decides. His stand has appealed to broad stretches of a postwar German population bred to abhor war, but it has also brought charges of "German unilateralism" and estrangement from its principal allies in the United States and Europe.

With voting on Sunday in a very tight election, the debate over how much damage Mr. Schröder may have done to Germany`s relations with its partners, in particular with the United States, has become ever more passionate and shrill.

The chancellor has clawed back to a slight lead over his conservative rival, Edmund Stoiber, in large part by running against the Bush administration and its plans for war and "regime change" in Iraq.

Mr. Schröder says that under him, Germany will neither help in any war against Iraq nor help pay for one. Pollsters now say Iraq — not the weak German economy — has become the most important issue for those still deciding how they will vote.

Is this shift a reflection of a significantly changed Germany, no longer beholden to its conqueror and liberator from across the sea? Or of a chancellor in trouble using a delicate issue to try to squeak by? Or of a Bush administration that is failing to bring along its own allies? Or of a true friend to America, as Mr. Schröder insists he remains, who is simply speaking truth to power, as a real friend should?

Mr. Pflüger, a lifelong devotee of close German-American ties, is beside himself.

"This is a disaster," he said. "In a matter of weeks, Schröder was able to deprive Germany of its reputation of dependability which was developed over many years, from Willy Brandt to Helmut Kohl."

As for Germany`s position in the European Union, some outside experts say they believe that Mr. Schröder has also done harm by casting doubt on Germany`s reliability at the "inner circle" of European nations along with France and Britain.

William Drozdiak, the executive director of the Transatlantic Center, a Brussels-based study center of the German Marshall Fund, said Mr. Schröder was "definitely causing harm, especially to relations with France, Britain and the United States."

The chancellor received some comradely political support today from the British prime minister, Tony Blair, who told the newspaper Tagesspiegel: "Schröder has set out his position on Iraq, and we respect that. I certainly have never seen Germany isolated in key issues in the past. On Iraq, Germany is raising questions which it does make sense to ask. There may well be differences of opinion, but I have no doubt that we will ultimately all work closely together."

But the publisher of Tagesspiegel, Hellmuth Karasek, blasted Mr. Schröder for electoral cynicism, "German unilateralism" and "cheap anti-Americanism" in words that echoed through the German policy elite.

There are signs that Mr. Schröder is already trying to patch things up with Washington. His foreign minister, Joschka Fischer, a member of the Green Party, met briefly with Mr. Bush at the United Nations and reportedly tried to reassure the president that Germany remained a close friend.

Officials say Germany quickly ceded jurisdiction over the captured Yemeni Ramzi bin al-Shibh to the United States to show its continuing commitment to the war against Al Qaeda, despite differences over Iraq. Mr. bin al-Shibh, who lived in Hamburg, was also wanted in Germany in relation to the Sept. 11 attacks.

German officials say the country is now more likely to take over command of the international security force in Kabul from Turkey early next year to show solidarity with the United States.

But in such a close election, even Mr. Stoiber has been loath to praise Mr. Bush`s plans for Iraq and sound like a warmonger. Today, he said he would deny Washington use of German bases for a unilateral attack on Iraq. "Certainly never if the Americans go it alone," he said.

He followed Mr. Schröder in saying, "Now the aim is to destroy weapons of mass destruction, not the toppling of a dictator."

Mr. Stoiber has, however, firmly supported the need for the United Nations Security Council to defend its resolutions and provide a mandate for any military action — but only if the goal of unconditional arms inspections fails.

If the Security Council votes to allow military force, he said, "I believe it is impossible that Germany would stand alone and refuse to accept a U.N. mandate."

In essence, his stance is like that of the French president, Jacques Chirac, a fellow conservative who has awarded Mr. Stoiber a decoration for his services to France.

Germany`s longstanding desire to be a postwar force for peace is part of the legacy of the Nazi period and the American occupation. The use of the German military in any action without a United Nations mandate is constitutionally forbidden.

It has been Mr. Schröder and Mr. Fischer who have pushed Germans to take up a larger international role, including taking part in the Kosovo war and the use of German special forces in Afghanistan. Mr. Schröder emphasizes that Germany has nearly 10,000 troops abroad, almost exclusively in peacekeeping duties.

Now the chancellor has undermined that extension of Germany`s military role, American officials say, while personally offending Mr. Bush.


Quelle:http://nytimes.com/

und tschüss Schröder

[ToskanaOskar]

Im Grunde ist das nur ausgleichende Gerechtigkeit.

Vor 4 Jahren hat Claudia Nolte Kohl Wiederwahl verhindert (Kurz vor der Wahl sprach sie von einer möglichen MWST Erhöhung) diesmal verhindert Däubler-Gremlin die Wiederwahl Schröders.


Frauen in Politik !!!

[derschwarzeRitter]

Herta hat für die Wahl gepunktet.

bis auf die paar Bush-Stiefellecker hier an board und bei BILD hasst der Wähler den kriegsgeilen Cowboy.

[oswald11]

#33 Vollste Zustimmung!

[klatschi]

@ritter

der wähler hasst aber auch dumme minister die sich nicht artikulieren können und den eindruck machen als würden sie jeden tag 5 flaschen schnaps trinken

[derschwarzeRitter]

klatschi,

wer bei Wahlveranstaltungen und bei FDP-Threads im Politik-Forum aktiv ist, kommt unter 5 Flaschen Schnaps täglich nicht aus.

dafür hat der Wähler Verständnis.

[klatschi]

nun dürften auch die amis wieder happy sein

...dummheit muss halt bestraft werden... der nächste justizminister wird weitaus kompetenter sein