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schrieb am 11.05.12 01:45:11
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.:
43.150.363 von Randfontein am 11.05.12
01:01:00http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/delta-airlines-…
Auszug : Der stark schwankende Kerosinpreis ist für
Fluggesellschaften der größte Kostenblock. Normalerweise versuchen
sie das Problem mit Aufschlägen auf den Ticketpreis zu bekämpfen -
die US-Airline Delta geht einen anderen Weg: Sie kauft eine eigene
Raffinerie.
oder
http://www.n-tv.de/wirtschaft/Air-France-tankt-sich-rot-arti…
Air France tankt sich rot
Der Fluggesellschaft Air France-KLM drohen die Tankrechnungen über
den Kopf zu wachsen: Die ersten drei Monate des Jahres enden für
den Lufthansa-Rivalen erneut im Minus. Mit neuen Rezepten versucht
die Airline, zurück in die Gewinnzone zu fliegen.
Die französische-niederländische Fluggesellschaft Air France-KLM
ist im ersten Quartal noch tiefer in die Verlustzone geflogen. Auch
bessere Passagierzahlen hätten die rekordhohen Kerosinpreise und
die Schwäche im internationalen Frachtgeschäft nicht ausgleichen
können, teilte Air France-KLM mit.
es ist schon was dran - Condor wird s nicht anders gehen - die
Reisen werden teils 9 - 12 Monate zu Pauschalpreisen gebucht und
bezahlt . Man kann nicht einfach hingehen und mehr verlangen - wenn
man s doch tut haben die Passagiere automatisch Sonderkündigungs
bzw Rücktrittsrecht .
Aber wie vorher schon geschrieben - die Öl Preise normalisieren
sich - das wird auch auf die Kerosinpreise durchschlagen und die
Lage entspannen , es sei denn nächst Woche gehts wieder rauf ....
schrieb am 11.05.12 01:49:03
Zitat von mk102Sorry
- war mein erster Blick auf den Londoner Stock Exchange , machen
die wirklich schon um 16.35 Feierabend ? Brite müsste man sein ..
oder auch nicht 

Bist nicht der erste und sicher nicht der letzte, der sich über LSE
wundert.
Wer sich da nicht einarbeitet, hat keinen Durchblick - und wer es
tut, erst recht nicht...
Thanks for bearing with us - und ruhige Nacht
schrieb am 11.05.12 08:43:39
Das habe ich von Finanznachrichten.de
11 May 2012
Thomas Cook Group Plc
Aircraft Sale and Leaseback Agreed and Update on Current
Trading
· Aircraft sale and leaseback agreed, expected to provide proceeds
of £182.9m;
· Proceeds to be retained by the Group providing significant
additional liquidity;
· A circular seeking shareholder approval for HCV and the aircraft
disposals is expected to be sent to shareholders shortly and will
include an update on current trading which is summarised below:
o Summer bookings have improved in recent weeks;
o As expected, first half seasonal losses have widened;
· Longer term financing announced on 5 May signed.
Sam Weihagen, Chief Executive Officer Thomas Cook Group plc:
"Today's announcement demonstrates the progress which we continue
to make to strengthen the Group's financial position, with the
aircraft disposals providing substantial additional liquidity. As
expected, the first half seasonal losses have widened however,
summer bookings have improved in recent weeks."
Aircraft Disposals
The Group has agreed to the sale and lease back of 11 Boeing 757
aircraft with Guggenheim Aviation Partners, LLC ("Guggenheim") and
6 Boeing 767 aircraft with Aircastle Advisor (International)
Limited ("Aircastle"). The Group has also agreed in principle to
enter into sale and leaseback agreements in respect of a further 2
Boeing 767 Aircraft with Guggenheim.
The Group expects to receive proceeds of USD 202.9m (£126.1m at the
current exchange rate) from the sale of 11 Boeing 757s and 2 B767s
to Guggenheim, and proceeds of USD 91.5m (£56.8m at the current
exchange rate) from the sale of 6 Boeing 767s to Aircastle.
The net cash proceeds of these transactions, which will be used for
general corporate purposes, will add to the Group's headroom of
cash and available facilities. The leaseback arrangements will be
treated for accounting purposes as finance leases. The transactions
will reduce the earnings of the Group as a result of increased
depreciation and the increase in finance costs in respect of the
finance leases offset to a certain extent by a reduction in
interest payable on borrowings. The Company estimates the full year
effect to be approximately £10m.
Current trading
Winter 11/12
The winter season has closed and bookings were broadly in line with
the last update to the market on 28 March 2012.
Year on year variation %
Average selling price
Cumulative bookings
Planned capacity
UK
- Total
- Specialist & Independent
- Mainstream
-
-
-1
-4
+2
-10
-
-
-8
Central Europe
+4
-4
-4
West Europe
+4
-18
-17
Northern Europe
-5
+10
+10
Airlines Germany
-5
+21
+18
Note: Figures as at 5/6 May 2012. In Central Europe and West
Europe, bookings represent all bookings including cars/overland,
however capacity represents airline seat capacity only. Northern
Europe winter season is October - March. The statistics reflect the
transfer of the East Europe businesses into Central Europe.
Summer 12
Bookings have been broadly stable since our last update on 28 March
2012.
Year on year variation %
Average selling price
Cumulative bookings
Planned capacity
UK
- Total
- Specialist & Independent
- Mainstream
-
-
+4
-1
+11
-9
-
-
-13
Central Europe
+1
Flat
Flat
West Europe
+4
-10
-12
Northern Europe
+4
-6
-3
Airlines Germany
+5
+4
+7
Note: Figures as at 5/6 May 2012. In Central Europe and West
Europe, bookings represent all bookings including cars/overland,
however capacity represents airline seat capacity only. Northern
Europe summer season is April - September. The statistics reflect
the transfer of the East Europe businesses into Central Europe.
Overall, UK bookings are only slightly lower than prior year.
Mainstream bookings are down 9%, ahead of capacity reductions of
13% and we have 19% less left to sell compared to prior year.
Average selling price is stable at +4% and our independent and
specialist businesses continue to perform well, with bookings up
11%.
Central Europe bookings are ahead of planned capacity, with
sustained improvement in the last four weeks. Pricing and margins
remain stable despite the competition in the market.
Trading in West Europe remains challenging, particularly in France.
Bookings in recent weeks have begun to improve and are now ahead of
capacity. Pricing remains stable at +4%.
In Northern Europe, bookings are down 6% but have continued to
improve and are trending towards capacity.
Bookings are up 4% in Airlines Germany and have seen a significant
improvement in the last four weeks, up 25%. Yields are up 5%,
partly driven by a higher share of intercontinental routes and the
introduction of a fuel surcharge.
Interim Results
The Group is in the process of preparing its interim report for the
six months ended 31 March 2012. In advance of the release of the
interim report, the shareholder circular will include the following
information on the results for the six months ended 31 March 2012,
which has been extracted from the Group's management accounts.
The unaudited seasonal loss from operations before separately
disclosed items for the six months to 31 March 2012 was £262.7m
(2011: £165.8m). The segmental composition of the results was as
follows:
Unaudited
six months ended
31 March 2012
£m
Restated unaudited
six months ended
31 March 2011
£m
UK
(173.6)
(158.7)
Central Europe
(20.8)
(17.5)
West Europe
(65.6)
(34.1)
Northern Europe
25.0
34.0
North America
(15.5)
9.3
Airlines Germany
(3.0)
12.3
Corporate
(9.2)
(11.1)
(262.7)
(165.8)
Note: Results for the six months ended 31 March 2011 have been
restated to reflect the transfer of the East Europe businesses from
the former West & East Europe segment to the Central Europe
segment.
The results reflect the continued difficult trading conditions
being experienced in most of the Group's markets and particularly
the impact of MENA on West Europe and the poor trading in the
Canadian mainstream business following the loss of a key hotel
supplier and overcapacity in that market. Central Europe now
includes our Russian and Eastern Europe businesses. Whilst Germany
has performed well, the Russian business, which was acquired in
July 2011, reported a loss of £10.5m. The UK result includes
seasonal losses relating to the Co-operative businesses of £14.9m
which were acquired in October 2011.
In accordance with our accounting policies, the Group will
separately disclose exceptional items, amortisation of business
combination intangibles and IAS 39 fair value re-measurement in the
income statement. Exceptional operating items before goodwill
impairment are expected to result in a charge of approximately
£70m, principally relating to the reorganisation and restructuring
of our UK, North America and West Europe businesses, professional
fees incurred in the amendment of the Group's financing package
with its lenders and the revised forecast of the likely cost of
settlement of a dispute with HM Revenue & Customs over place of
business.
Following the announcement of a formal process for disposal of
Thomas Cook India we will treat the Indian business as held for
sale and consequently will review its carrying value to ensure it
does not exceed fair value less cost to sell. In addition,
following the poor trading in our North American and French
businesses we will review the carrying value of the goodwill and
deferred tax assets in those businesses. In total we expect these
reviews to result in an impairment of goodwill in the region of
£265m and the de-recognition of deferred tax previously recognised
of approximately £45m.
The unaudited net debt at 31 March 2012 was £1,289.9m (2011:
£1,094.2m) reflecting the increased opening debt balance, higher
seasonal losses and the impact that planned reductions in capacity
have on booking receipts.
The Group expects to announce its results for the six months ended
31 March 2012 following the announcement of results of the General
Meeting to approve the disposals.
Outlook
We continue to expect this year to be challenging given the
economic backdrop and difficult trading environment. The
performance of our North American and French businesses has been
particularly poor and is a major contributor to the increased
losses in the first half. Whilst our booking position for the
second half is more encouraging trading will be dependant on how
well the Group performs during the important lates market.
Enquiries:
Analysts & Investors - Thomas Cook Investor Relations
Louise Bryant +44 (0) 20 7557 6413
Kathryn Rhinds +44 (0) 20 7557 6414
Media - Finsbury
Faeth Birch +44 (0) 20 7251 3801
+44 (0) 7768 943 171
Conference Call:
A conference call will be held for analysts and investors today at
9am (BST).
Dial in number : +44 (0)20 3003 2666
Password: Thomas Cook
Replay number: +44 (0) 20 8196 1998
Access pin: 4989086
Notes to editors:
1. Information on the Boeing Aircraft
As at 31 March 2012, the Group's fleet comprised a total of 90
aircraft (of which 46 are leased and 44 are owned) with an average
age of 13.2 years.
Condor has agreed to sell 11 Condor 757 Aircraft to Guggenheim and
6 Condor 767 Aircraft to Aircastle. Thomas Cook Airlines ("TCAUK")
has agreed in principle to enter into sale and leaseback
arrangements in respect of 2 TCAUK 767 Aircraft with Guggenheim.
The aircraft were delivered between 1992 and 2000. As at 30
September 2011, the total net book value of the aircraft owned by
Condor was £185.1m and the total net book value of the aircraft
owned by TCAUK was £23.9m.
2. Current trading comparators
Current trading data from 24/25 March (as reported on 28 March
2012) restated to reflect the transfer of East Europe into Central
Europe.
Winter
Year on year variation %
Average selling price
Cumulative bookings
Planned capacity
Central Europe
+4
-6
-4
West Europe
+5
-19
-17
Summer
Year on year variation %
Average selling price
Cumulative bookings
Planned capacity
Central Europe
+1
Flat
Flat
West Europe
+4
-11
-11
This information is provided by RNS
The company news service from the London Stock Exchange
END
schrieb am 11.05.12 08:57:45
also dieser "outlook" ist ja eher dürftig, oder was meint ihr?
schrieb am 11.05.12 09:00:17
und die "planned capacity" für 2012 sieht ja auch eher nach
deutlichem Rückgang aus..
schrieb am 11.05.12 09:05:43
lieber weniger und effektiv
schrieb am 11.05.12 09:14:47
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.:
43.150.952 von holdriho am 11.05.12
09:00:17
ich finde es sind keine negativen Überraschungen
beinhaltet, alles wie bei TUI. Was mich eher nervt ist die Tatsache
dass nichts zu Olympia oder der gleichen gesagt wird. Ich habe so
den Eindruck man bekommt nur das minimum an Infos. Ich hoffe nur,
dass man im Gegensatz zum Vorjahr in diesem Jahr eher positiv
überrascht. Vielleicht hat man was davon gelernt.
Bilanztechnisch würde ich nur gerne wissen wie hoch die
Wertaufholungen sein können. Da könnte man schon einiges drehen
schrieb am 11.05.12 09:20:14
Olympia wird gemessen an den Aufwendungen kein Gewinnbringer sein
auch wenn 70 % der Packages verkauft sind.
Die Zahlen sind nicht berauschend, gemessen aber am Mitbewerber TUI
ist eine Korrektur des Aktienkurses überfällig.
schrieb am 11.05.12 09:23:01
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.:
43.151.083 von GelsenSzene am 11.05.12
09:20:14Bei Olympia bin ich zwar anderer Meinung

aber beom Rest stimme ich Dir zu. Bleibt nur zu hoffen das
der Kurs bei TUI nicht an den von TCG angepasst wird

schrieb am 11.05.12 09:31:37
Stock to Watch: Thomas Cook Group
By Edmond Jackson | Fri, 11/05/2012 - 00:00
This article is for information and discussion purposes only and
does not form a recommendation to invest or otherwise. The value of
an investment may fall. The investments referred to in this article
may not be suitable for all investors, and if in doubt, an investor
should seek advice from a qualified investment adviser.
News that Europe's second biggest travel operator has agreed a £1.4
billion refinancing to end-May 2015, also a new finance director,
initially appear encouraging for the now FTSE SmallCap shares in
Thomas Cook Group (TCG), currently around 22p.
Last year, TCG plunged from over 200p to as low as 10p, amid fears
over debts approaching £1 billion and strength of cash flows; there
was a real worry whether it could survive, especially with a
double-dip recession potentially affecting consumer spending.
The banks have continued support and a new finance director joined,
which appears to vindicate investors buying around the lows - who
have nicely doubled their money.
I would still be cautious however, and monitor the situation
closely: for example, will the new finance director actually buy a
serious amount of shares - once settled in and having assessed his
challenge - or rely on risk-free share options? Will his
remuneration package (when disclosed) include an equity element or
will he be rewarded mainly in cash?
Some finance directors do very well for themselves, helping sort
out challenged companies during a recession, but the ultimate
beneficiaries are not always the historical shareholders. This new
FD was previously in the same role at Kwik-Fit having "played a key
role in implementing a business development plan to reduce the risk
in a highly leveraged business". However Kwik-Fit was delisted and
passed through two private equity firms then acquired by a Japanese
trading company.
From an end-March trading update it looks as if management is
stabilising the group and customers are not being deterred by last
year's bad publicity, as was feared. Bear in mind that although
sterling is now at a four-year high versus the euro, which ought to
boost holiday sales here, the UK only represents about a third of
group revenue, while continental Europe is the clear majority. So
currency volatility is a mixed factor.
Possibly TCG is too complex a situation for the bankers - who are
effectively in control - to disentangle it from the stockmarket in
the medium term. This new financing package and a completed
strategic review provide context to achieve a recovery programme -
and the search for a new chief executive is said to be progressing
well. Turnaround evolves in the UK business, the northern and
German businesses have been doing well, and those underperforming
such as in Canada, France and Russia are being addressed.
There is also a modest alignment of interest between bankers and
shareholders in the refinancing where, in addition to easing
covenant tests until December and a 1% amendment fee, warrants for
5% of the issued share capital are included. The downside is
whether, to put the group on a stable financial footing, there is
ultimately dilution that impacts existing holders while leaving a
still-useful bonus for the banks.
The end-September 2011 balance sheet will however continue to deter
many investors. A net asset position of nearly £1.2 billion is
derived with over £3.5 billion intangible assets, and current
liabilities are 2.3 times current assets - for example trade
payables being nearly twice trade receivables. Fixed assets are
mainly aircraft; the balance sheet is a no-no if you seek
definitive asset backing. Cash-at-bank appears to run annually at
about £350 million.
The key problem is TCG generating too little cash flow for net debt
of about £3.4 billion falling to £3.1 billion as projected after
the disposal programme. This is why the consensus of city advice
remains "sell", with Panmure Gordon for example targeting 10p a
share.
Morgan Stanley however contends TCG is fighting back with a higher
chance of survival than the market expects and targets 25p a share,
albeit with a "very high risk" caveat. But if that is realistic,
upside of barely 14% is not worthwhile anyway considering the
risks. With stockmarkets jittery again over eurozone woes, the
months ahead may offer better-quality shares at attractive
prices.
The consensus is for about £80 million pre-tax profit for the
current year to end-September, although one broker projects an £81
million loss as part of its "sell" advice - if affirming forecasts
for £90 million or better in 2012/13. In context of £135 million
net finance costs last year however, further disposals also
sale-and-leaseback deals are needed to balance the situation.
So I remain cautious of TCG; the shares have enjoyed a recovery
bounce with the New Year risk rally, probably helped by enough
buyers thinking this is still a big-name company with about £10
billion turnover despite the shares' small-cap status. It is
premature and highly speculative though, to define intrinsic value.
The main hope is the banks are in TCG so deep that careful
attention has been given to a realistic refinancing, bolstered by a
new FD joining who must believe it can work. Let's see if and when
he buys shares.
By way of comparison at about 180p a share, TUI Travel (TT.) in the
FTSE 250 index does not endure massive debt and offers a
prospective yield over 6%, which is twice covered by earnings
forecasts. These assume however, growth in normalised pre-tax
profit from £234 million to a consensus £352 million in the year to
end-September 2012, then £403 million in 2012/13. While the 8 May
interims were in line with management expectations, a cautious note
was struck in the outlook statement. So forecasts here similarly
leave no room for disappointment should European consumer spending
come under further pressure.
TUI and TCG derive a majority of revenue from continental Europe.
Broker views differ although the recent consensus even on the much
sounder TUI has been "sell" despite forecasts that earnings will
recover over 2008/09 levels. This is another share with negative
net tangible assets.
Active traders - long or short - may find interest following both
shares, as there is scope for worthwhile movement in the medium
term. Best see how holiday buying evolves.
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