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The FIRREA claims by JPM and the FDIC are just a smokescreen and delaying tactic. The BK judge has correctly determined that the ONLY court that can determine what the assets of the WAMUQ estate are... is bankruptcy court. JPM and the FDIC continue to raise the FIRREA issue in their motions and appeals because...it's their only real argument. Nothing in law has ever given the FDIC or JPM the right to seize and sell assets that were not subject to a regulatory action of the FDIC...such as non-WMB assets of the holding company. What if the holding company had also been the owner of Union Bank of California? Would the FDIC also claim authority to seize and sell that bank to JPM, simply because it was owned by a holding company that also held the allegedly-failing WMB bank? The problem for the FDIC is that it made no effort to distinguish between assets of holding company and the supposedly-failed bank and now it and JPM have to live with that. Bankruptcy law is very powerful and a vastly more important underpinning of our financial system than FIRREA. As an example, let's assume for a moment that WAMUQ held the title to $3 billion worth of real estate and was facing bankruptcy due to non-bank-related failures in its other investments. Now, suppose that the WAMUQ CEO 'transferred' the $3 billion of real estate to the non-failing subsidiary bank a week before filing for bankrutpcy to prevent the bankruptcy creditors from getting it. The bankruptcy court could and would return the $3 billion of real estate to the estate.
What we are seeing in the case of WAMUQ and WMB is the same thing. The FDIC cast its net far beyond the bank to illegally gather in non-bank assets that rightfully belong to the creditors of the bankruptcy estate. The bankruptcy court WILL recover those and no other court will ever overturn that on appeal, as long as the bankruptcy court fairly establishes that the assets do indeed belong to the estate. The FDIC and JPM are fighting a losing battle.
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The FIRREA claims by JPM and the FDIC are just a smokescreen and delaying tactic. The BK judge has correctly determined that the ONLY court that can determine what the assets of the WAMUQ estate are... is bankruptcy court. JPM and the FDIC continue to raise the FIRREA issue in their motions and appeals because...it's their only real argument. Nothing in law has ever given the FDIC or JPM the right to seize and sell assets that were not subject to a regulatory action of the FDIC...such as non-WMB assets of the holding company. What if the holding company had also been the owner of Union Bank of California? Would the FDIC also claim authority to seize and sell that bank to JPM, simply because it was owned by a holding company that also held the allegedly-failing WMB bank? The problem for the FDIC is that it made no effort to distinguish between assets of holding company and the supposedly-failed bank and now it and JPM have to live with that. Bankruptcy law is very powerful and a vastly more important underpinning of our financial system than FIRREA. As an example, let's assume for a moment that WAMUQ held the title to $3 billion worth of real estate and was facing bankruptcy due to non-bank-related failures in its other investments. Now, suppose that the WAMUQ CEO 'transferred' the $3 billion of real estate to the non-failing subsidiary bank a week before filing for bankrutpcy to prevent the bankruptcy creditors from getting it. The bankruptcy court could and would return the $3 billion of real estate to the estate.
What we are seeing in the case of WAMUQ and WMB is the same thing. The FDIC cast its net far beyond the bank to illegally gather in non-bank assets that rightfully belong to the creditors of the bankruptcy estate. The bankruptcy court WILL recover those and no other court will ever overturn that on appeal, as long as the bankruptcy court fairly establishes that the assets do indeed belong to the estate. The FDIC and JPM are fighting a losing battle.
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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 37.718.133 von born2live am 05.08.09 18:49:25mal sehn ob was nach germany-schluss geht? alles immernoch schön verdeckt!
was geht denn in frankfurt? über pari kaufen??????
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 37.718.170 von body1 am 05.08.09 18:54:320,07 in FFM
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 37.718.133 von born2live am 05.08.09 18:49:25ok..paar meinungen..
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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 37.718.114 von born2live am 05.08.09 18:47:07und mit peanats wieder runter 
Die Fianzwerte laufen heute , einfach 
Fehlt nur noch WAMUQ !
Fehlt nur noch WAMUQ !
zwr nicht direkt wmi aber sicher ein Grund für die Anstiege heute:
Morgan Stanly says US economy is roaring out of recession in q3. Here is what is said about the housing market.
"Better-than-expected gains in housing and construction will probably add another half point to 3Q output. Despite the obvious headwinds that still face housing, imbalances are smaller, and activity is starting to improve by more than we thought previously. The vacancy rate in one-family housing, now 2.5%, has fallen 40bp from its 4Q08 peak. And modest improvements in sales and continued declines in inventories have brought inventories of new, one-family homes down to 8.8 months' supply -from 12.4 months in January. The 2.4% June surge in one-family construction outlays signals that activity began to turn at the end of 2Q. With financial conditions gradually improving, despite lenders requiring higher downpayments, further gradual improvements in demand seem likely, and housing construction is also likely to improve further. Moreover, thanks to the funding from the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA), it appears that state and local infrastructure outlays are starting to pick up a bit sooner than we expected a month ago."
Morgan Stanly says US economy is roaring out of recession in q3. Here is what is said about the housing market.
"Better-than-expected gains in housing and construction will probably add another half point to 3Q output. Despite the obvious headwinds that still face housing, imbalances are smaller, and activity is starting to improve by more than we thought previously. The vacancy rate in one-family housing, now 2.5%, has fallen 40bp from its 4Q08 peak. And modest improvements in sales and continued declines in inventories have brought inventories of new, one-family homes down to 8.8 months' supply -from 12.4 months in January. The 2.4% June surge in one-family construction outlays signals that activity began to turn at the end of 2Q. With financial conditions gradually improving, despite lenders requiring higher downpayments, further gradual improvements in demand seem likely, and housing construction is also likely to improve further. Moreover, thanks to the funding from the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA), it appears that state and local infrastructure outlays are starting to pick up a bit sooner than we expected a month ago."
fact sheet
Please correct information below or add to it. I would like a cliff note verson of the FACTS for us longs (and new investers) to look at each day. Sometimes we get caught up with the pumpers and bashers and forget the facts.
1. Discovery documents due on 8/1. No proof they did or didn’t!
2. Weil’s billing. Has not been posted for months!
3. PPS doesn’t reflect any end in sight.
4. 1 year anniversary date is approaching quickly.
5. 4 billion has yet to be ruled on. No certain date is set for this ruling.
6. Discovery HAS been granted. No going back, no appealing.
7. Government pushing a bill to give FDIC power to take down holding companies.
8. JPM pps is over $40
9. From billing we have seen, WMI wants to come out of chapter 11 and open up business (a lot of credit card business information)
http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks…
Please correct information below or add to it. I would like a cliff note verson of the FACTS for us longs (and new investers) to look at each day. Sometimes we get caught up with the pumpers and bashers and forget the facts.
1. Discovery documents due on 8/1. No proof they did or didn’t!
2. Weil’s billing. Has not been posted for months!
3. PPS doesn’t reflect any end in sight.
4. 1 year anniversary date is approaching quickly.
5. 4 billion has yet to be ruled on. No certain date is set for this ruling.
6. Discovery HAS been granted. No going back, no appealing.
7. Government pushing a bill to give FDIC power to take down holding companies.
8. JPM pps is over $40
9. From billing we have seen, WMI wants to come out of chapter 11 and open up business (a lot of credit card business information)
http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks…
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 37.718.111 von janwiencierz am 05.08.09 18:46:36
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