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Die "Vorboten"....
naja, es wird, es wird...??????https://breakingdefense.com/2024/04/army-closing-in-on-selec…
https://www.sncorp.com/capabilities/rapcon-x-aerial-isr/
PASST ja....
obwohl Freitag, hmm, ganz neue Sitten, auch recht ord. Volumen, aber egal, so wie es aussieht, könnte es doch wieder mal "etwas NACHHALTIGER" werden?Naja, wir müssen die "Kirche im Dorf lassen" und mal auf den I-Tag warten, jaaa, da könnte die eine oder andere Überraschung dabei sein, aber was dann???
Geht es schnell Richtung 74,.. und gibt es dann wieder einen Rücksetzter, jaaa, könnte ich mir schon vorstellen, aber das wär ja dann endlich ein ganz normaler Handel, kurze Beruhigung um dann neue Höhen in Angriff zu nehmen, soo müsste es ablaufen und nicht wie sonst dieser V-Bude handel....
Und zu diesen ganzen Analysten, naja, die sind ja schon seit einiger Zeit interessant zu lesen und diese ganzen Prognosen, naja, sie müssen halt jez nur mehr erreicht werden, jaja, es kommt schon, einfach nur warten, wie immer....
Auch noch mehr werden wir sehen, ich bleibe bei meinen 80-90 C$ am Ende2024 und >200 C$ in den nächsten Jahren, wenn nur sonst nix passiert... man darf ja die Weltbörsen nicht vergessen, sollten die mal einbrechen, na dann wird unsere Perle auch nicht steigen, vorerst mal...
Und von StopLoss Orders würde ich in der nächsten Zeit mal absehen, man hat ja am Do gesehen was passiert, wenn die "Aasgeier" ausfliegen...
Defense wird in Zukunft sicher ein tolles Thema sein, die ganze Welt braucht diese Bomber, aber ob es zu einer sehr großen Bestellung aus USA kommen wird bezweifle ich, die werden nat. eine Bestellung abgeben, alleine schon um die "verkorkste" Geschichte zum BOEINGDeal aus der Welt zu schaffen, aber sooo groß? naja, schauma mal was am 1.5. abgeht...
Also, schöWoende, es wird ja wieder "Sommer", zumindest bei uns im ÖsiLand... 🌞🌞😎😎
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 75.693.348 von Luki123 am 26.04.24 21:17:32
Nettes Wortspiel Defense, Rüstung, Offense, Waffen...läuft ja leider eh wie Bolle sein Hund wenn er spitz ist 🙁 Wäre komisch wenn der Bomber da nicht was abstauben würde mit der neu gewonnenen Geschäftstüchtigkeit 👍
Zitat von Luki123: Hab mir vorhin mal das radiointerview von Eric Martel bei CBC angehört.
Er sagte die Defense sparte läuft deutlich besser als sie erwartet haben. Aber dazu wird es nächste Woche mehr geben am Investorentag.
Also das ist für mich die Bombe.. mal sehen was da kommt. Das sind hohe Margen und dicke Aufträge drin.
Nettes Wortspiel Defense, Rüstung, Offense, Waffen...läuft ja leider eh wie Bolle sein Hund wenn er spitz ist 🙁 Wäre komisch wenn der Bomber da nicht was abstauben würde mit der neu gewonnenen Geschäftstüchtigkeit 👍
RBC 95 Cad unverändert
RBC: Reiterate BBD as our top ideaMeaningful uptick in book-to-bill and backlog provide favourable backdrop to hit 2025 targets
Our view:
Key for us from Q1 results was a significant uptick in
Bombardier's book-to-bill and order backlog, with mgmt flagging increased
Global demand as the primary driver. We see this as providing a very
favourable operating backdrop for the company to execute on its 2025
targets, which are key to our very positive investment thesis on the shares.
Margin also came in well above expectations, which suggests upside to
2025 targets and give us increased confidence that a much higher run-rate
margin is achievable. On our call back with mgmt, we discussed working
capital and margin cadence. Highlights below:
Key points:
• Q1/24 results. EBITDA of $205MM came in below consensus
expectations of $223MM (RBC: $234MM) and was down 3% Y/Y on
the back of two less deliveries offset by increased aftermarket services
revenues (+13% y/y). Margins expanded 140bps Y/Y to 16% underpinned
by greater services contribution and higher pricing. FCF usage of -
$387MM came in below consensus of -$356MM due to working capital
build on the production ramp.
• Book-to-bill and backlog increase driven by higher Global demand.
The main focus from the call was the company's book to-bill that came
in at 1.6x and a $700MM increase in the backlog to $14.9B, which
was primarily driven by Global demand as we note the $ book to-bill
is therefore closer to 2x. Overall, we view this as giving Bombardier
operational predictability and gives us a lot more confidence in the
company's ability to achieve its 2025 targets, which are key to our very
positive investment thesis on the shares.
• Margins came in strong in Q1. Another important positive from the
quarter was solid margin performance, which gives us more conviction
that a much higher run-rate margin is achievable. While this was in part
driven by services mix, we note that it came despite higher Challenger
deliveries. Looking ahead, we expect increasing Global deliveries (which
were a big driver of today's backlog increase) and an improving supply
chain (in line with commentary from General Dynamics yesterday) as
drivers of better margins in line with the company's 2025 targets.
• FCF to be weighted to Q4. In line with our prior expectations,
management noted on the conference call that FCF will be weighted
to Q4. Management expects inventory investment during the first three
quarters to be followed by a meaningful working capital release in Q4,
largely in line with our prior expectations.
Estimates and PT unchanged. We are not making any changes to our core
assumptions as we expect the lower deliveries in Q1 will be offset in Q2-
Q4 as the company ramps production. We are more confident in our 2025
estimates reflecting improvement in the backlog and see upside to 2025
targets on margin. PT unchanged at $95. Reiterate BBD as our top idea
Vielleicht noch ne info
Hab mir vorhin mal das radiointerview von Eric Martel bei CBC angehört.Er sagte die Defense sparte läuft deutlich besser als sie erwartet haben. Aber dazu wird es nächste Woche mehr geben am Investorentag.
Also das ist für mich die Bombe.. mal sehen was da kommt. Das sind hohe Margen und dicke Aufträge drin.
Nat. Bank von 95 CAD auf 92 Cad
Nat bank : Steady progressQ1 deliveries below forecast, but new jet demand
remains healthy
Q1 results slightly below forecast
Bombardier reported Q1 results this morning that were below NBF and
consensus forecasts due to lower than forecasted jet deliveries, but
management indicates that it remains on track to meet its 2024 guidance. For
more detail, see our Q1 results Flash (link to BBD Q1/24 results Flash).
2024 guidance unchanged
While aircraft deliveries were lower than expected in Q1 at 20 versus our
forecast for 24 (largely due to timing), management reiterated its target of
150-155 deliveries for the full year. Financial guidance is also unchanged at
$8.4-$8.6 billion in revenue with EBITDA forecasted in a range of $1.30-$1.35
billion with EBIT of $850-$900 million. Free cash flow usage in Q1 also came
in higher than expected, but management is still guiding to 2024 FCF of $100-
$400 million and $900 million in 2025, which still looks achievable.
Backlog grows nicely and demand looks healthy
Backlog was $14.9 billion at the end of Q1 versus $14.2 billion at the end of
last quarter and the book-to-bill was 1.6x (no cancellations in the quarter).
Bombardier management indicates that demand for new jets remains healthy
with more orders for Global model jets in Q1. Furthermore, global flying
activity on Bombardier model jets is running 7% higher y/y, which we view as a
solid leading indicator that order activity should remain solid.
Maintain OP; target trimmed to C$92.00
We maintain our Outperform rating on Bombardier shares and have trimmed
our target slightly to C$92.00 from C$95.00 previously. Our thesis on
Bombardier is unchanged; we see steady progress towards the company’s
2025 financial targets underpinned by still healthy business jet end market
conditions that we expect will ultimately drive a material increase in the
share price.
CIBC von 61 CAD auf 67 CAD
CIBC: Less sceptic than beforeContinuing To De-risk The Operations
Our Conclusion
BBD’s Q1 results highlight the success the company is having in de-risking
its operations as it continues to build a wider liquidity and margin buffer. Our
price target moves from C$61 to C$67 and we keep our Neutral rating.
Key Points
BBD’s Q1 results continue to highlight the success the company is having in
de-risking its operations. The concern we often hear from investors is how
BBD will perform through the cycle, recognizing business jet fundamentals
are healthy today. BBD continues to take steps to widen the liquidity and
margin buffer.
On the liquidity front, BBD exited Q1 with pro forma liquidity of $1.42B, which
is at the high end of its targeted range of $1.0B-$1.5B. Net leverage at the
end of the quarter was 3.6x. The company also continues to make progress
on debt reduction, with $100MM of debt redemption closed on April 15. BBD
also successfully completed the issuance of $750MM of Senior Notes due
2031, the proceeds of which will be used to repay existing outstanding debts.
This effectively pushes out maturities and further strengthens the balance
sheet. BBD is targeting a leverage ratio of 2.0x-2.5x in 2025.
On the margin front, BBD printed 16% EBITDA margin in Q1, up 141 bps Y/Y
and versus 9.2% back in Q1/21. The company noted Aftermarket Services
in Q1 grew 13% Y/Y to $477MM and contributed 37% of total revenue.
Growth in Aftermarket revenue, combined with healthy jet sales prices and
cost management, drove the margin expansion we saw in the quarter. This
highlights the revenue diversification strategy at BBD, which improves mix
but also should help reduce the cyclicality in margins.
The backlog also provides BBD with significant visibility. At the end of the
quarter, the backlog stood at $14.9B and this equates to more than two
years of revenue. Recent trends also point to demand remaining healthy. In
Q1, book to bill was 1.6x, which is up significantly from 1.0x exiting 2023,
and the backlog was up $700MM Q/Q.
Heading to BBD’s Investor Day next week, we expect more colour on the
company’s longer-term capital allocation plans and margin upside post-2025.
On the former, we think BBD will look to alleviate concerns that it will need to
enter into a new capex cycle heading into the back half of this decade to fund
a new mid-size aircraft, which is supportive of cumulative FCF generation.
The Challenger continues to sell well, so there isn’t any urgency to replace
this model. We also expect more colour on the growth and expansion of
Aftermarket Service, which has been a lift on margins, and potential growth
opportunities within Defense. Recall that BBD’s 2025 target is to reach $2B
of revenue in Aftermarket, and the company thinks Defense could reach $1B
within the next five years.
Desjardins -> BBD from $96.00 to $101.00.
Desjardins : Feeling Hot, Hot, Hot1Q24 recap—bookings are “Feeling Hot Hot Hot”
The Desjardins Takeaway
Overall, we view the results as positive given the stronger-than-expected bookings in
the quarter and management’s positive commentary on the environment as well as
the balance of the year. At next week’s investor day, we do not expect any changes/
surprises in BBD’s existing 2025 targets as discussions will most likely centre on capital
deployment and the growth opportunities for the company’s aftermarket, defence and
certified pre-owned businesses.
Highlights
Financials miss slightly, mainly due to timing issues and heavy Challenger delivery
mix—guidance reaffirmed and investors unconcerned. We now forecast 2024 revenue
of US$8,402m, adjusted EBITDA of US$1,303m (15.5% margin) and FCF of US$271m,
driven by 152 deliveries in 2024 (78 Challengers and 74 Globals). We expect the bulk of
the working capital investment to occur in 1H as BBD builds up its inventories for the
year (we forecast continued FCF consumption of -US$193m in 2Q).
Bizjet market conditions remain robust—BBD hits 1Q bookings out of the park. The
backlog ended 1Q at US$14.9b, up sequentially from US$14.2b. This represents a book
to bill of 1.6x in units and 1.9x in sales and bookings. BBD reaffirmed that demand for its
products remains strong across the globe despite economic headwinds, with booking
activity in Europe picking up once again (had several Global orders from Europe in 1Q;
the Dassault 6X and 10X delays could be a factor, in our view). Management also stated
that it booked a nice Global defence order in the quarter. Combining these items with
industry flight activity and commentary, we believe BBD has a clear line of sight in its
sales pipeline to reach a book to bill of 1x in 2024.
Valuation
Increasing our target to C$101 (from C$96) as we adjust our estimates and await the
investor day next week. Our target is based on an EV/EBITDA multiple of 8.6x on our
2024 EBITDA forecast of US$1,303m. We have adjusted our exchange rate to C$1.37/
US$1 (from C$1.35/US$1) to reflect current market rates.
Recommendation
Reiterating our bullish stance. We believe the current share price level provides an
interesting entry point for long-term investors (see our recent note detailing our upside
vs downside scenario analysis).
TD cowen 104Cad von 102Cad
TD: Upgrade Q1/24; MARGIN JUMP AND STRONG ORDERS ADD TO STORY
THE TD COWEN INSIGHT
Bombardier reported Q1/24 Adjusted EBITDA of $205 million vs. our forecast of $216
million and consensus of $224 million. A significant step-up in margin despite delivery and
mix pressure points to much more margin expansion potential ahead. This combined with
strengthening order activity and a show of confidence from management overshadowed
the usual Q1 FCF usage, and delivery weakness
Impact: SLIGHTLY POSITIVE
We are maintaining our BUY recommendation and increasing our target to C$104 from C
$102. The increased target reflects slightly higher forecast adjusted EBITDA, partially offset
by higher valuation-period net debt resulting from the greater-than-forecast Q1/24 FCF
usage. Our updated adjusted EBITDA estimates primarily reflect the carry forward of a
portion of the stronger-than-forecast Q1/24 margins.
Bombardier reported a good quarter that provided the equity market with confidence in
certain metrics that had previously and, in our view, incorrectly been a concern for market.
The stock moved up 8% on the day which demonstrates equity market enthusiasm for
the highest margin in over 20 years, and the 1.6x book-to-bill ratio which depicts cyclical
health and suggests a strong competitive position for the company's product portfolio. In
previous quarterly reports, significant FCF usage early in the year, which was the case again
in Q1/24, seemed to be a concern. This quarter, the market appears to be looking past early
cash outflows, accepting that it should reverse over the course of the year, and instead
focusing on what we believe is a significant fundamental undervaluation for a business that
has numerous appealing investment attributes.
We forecast 2024 and 2025 EBITDA margin of 16.0% and 18.0%, respectively, with margin
expansion driven by higher aftermarket services revenue growth, increased deliveries, and
mix shift. Our 2025 adjusted EBIT margin forecast of 12.9% compares to GD's (BUY; current
price $284.94; target $315.00) 2024 EBIT margin guidance for its Aerospace segment of
15.0%, suggesting additional upside to margins in the long term, in our view.
2024 guidance was re-iterated and continues to imply strong revenue and earnings growth,
strong (albeit down y/y) FCF and declining financial leverage. As expected, inventory
investments should continue in Q2, although moderating sequentially. The company is
hosting an Investor Day on May 1, and we believe the 2025 leverage target is the most
likely (and potentially only) metric to be updated.
ohhh, jez übertreiben sie es wieder mal...
ok, in die andere Richtung, aber wie lange?na vl. gibts ja ein noch schöneres Wochenende, aber heute ist doch Freitag, kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass es so dunkelGRÜN bleibt!!!
Bombardier im Höhenflug :-)