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      schrieb am 27.04.24 09:33:35
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      Bombardier Registered (B) | 43,63 €
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      schrieb am 27.04.24 09:12:27
      Beitrag Nr. 2.490 ()
      PASST ja....
      obwohl Freitag, hmm, ganz neue Sitten, auch recht ord. Volumen, aber egal, so wie es aussieht, könnte es doch wieder mal "etwas NACHHALTIGER" werden?
      Naja, wir müssen die "Kirche im Dorf lassen" und mal auf den I-Tag warten, jaaa, da könnte die eine oder andere Überraschung dabei sein, aber was dann???
      Geht es schnell Richtung 74,.. und gibt es dann wieder einen Rücksetzter, jaaa, könnte ich mir schon vorstellen, aber das wär ja dann endlich ein ganz normaler Handel, kurze Beruhigung um dann neue Höhen in Angriff zu nehmen, soo müsste es ablaufen und nicht wie sonst dieser V-Bude handel....
      Und zu diesen ganzen Analysten, naja, die sind ja schon seit einiger Zeit interessant zu lesen und diese ganzen Prognosen, naja, sie müssen halt jez nur mehr erreicht werden, jaja, es kommt schon, einfach nur warten, wie immer....
      Auch noch mehr werden wir sehen, ich bleibe bei meinen 80-90 C$ am Ende2024 und >200 C$ in den nächsten Jahren, wenn nur sonst nix passiert... man darf ja die Weltbörsen nicht vergessen, sollten die mal einbrechen, na dann wird unsere Perle auch nicht steigen, vorerst mal...
      Und von StopLoss Orders würde ich in der nächsten Zeit mal absehen, man hat ja am Do gesehen was passiert, wenn die "Aasgeier" ausfliegen... :laugh::laugh:
      Defense wird in Zukunft sicher ein tolles Thema sein, die ganze Welt braucht diese Bomber, aber ob es zu einer sehr großen Bestellung aus USA kommen wird bezweifle ich, die werden nat. eine Bestellung abgeben, alleine schon um die "verkorkste" Geschichte zum BOEINGDeal aus der Welt zu schaffen, aber sooo groß? naja, schauma mal was am 1.5. abgeht...
      Also, schöWoende, es wird ja wieder "Sommer", zumindest bei uns im ÖsiLand... 🌞🌞😎😎
      Bombardier Registered (B) | 43,63 €
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      schrieb am 27.04.24 01:32:45
      Beitrag Nr. 2.489 ()
      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 75.693.348 von Luki123 am 26.04.24 21:17:32
      Zitat von Luki123: Hab mir vorhin mal das radiointerview von Eric Martel bei CBC angehört.
      Er sagte die Defense sparte läuft deutlich besser als sie erwartet haben. Aber dazu wird es nächste Woche mehr geben am Investorentag.
      Also das ist für mich die Bombe.. mal sehen was da kommt. Das sind hohe Margen und dicke Aufträge drin.


      Nettes Wortspiel :D Defense, Rüstung, Offense, Waffen...läuft ja leider eh wie Bolle sein Hund wenn er spitz ist 🙁 Wäre komisch wenn der Bomber da nicht was abstauben würde mit der neu gewonnenen Geschäftstüchtigkeit 👍
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      schrieb am 26.04.24 21:46:30
      Beitrag Nr. 2.488 ()
      RBC 95 Cad unverändert
      RBC: Reiterate BBD as our top idea
      Meaningful uptick in book-to-bill and backlog provide favourable backdrop to hit 2025 targets

      Our view:

      Key for us from Q1 results was a significant uptick in
      Bombardier's book-to-bill and order backlog, with mgmt flagging increased
      Global demand as the primary driver. We see this as providing a very
      favourable operating backdrop for the company to execute on its 2025
      targets, which are key to our very positive investment thesis on the shares.
      Margin also came in well above expectations, which suggests upside to
      2025 targets and give us increased confidence that a much higher run-rate
      margin is achievable. On our call back with mgmt, we discussed working
      capital and margin cadence. Highlights below:

      Key points:

      • Q1/24 results. EBITDA of $205MM came in below consensus
      expectations of $223MM (RBC: $234MM) and was down 3% Y/Y on
      the back of two less deliveries offset by increased aftermarket services
      revenues (+13% y/y). Margins expanded 140bps Y/Y to 16% underpinned
      by greater services contribution and higher pricing. FCF usage of -
      $387MM came in below consensus of -$356MM due to working capital
      build on the production ramp.

      • Book-to-bill and backlog increase driven by higher Global demand.
      The main focus from the call was the company's book to-bill that came
      in at 1.6x and a $700MM increase in the backlog to $14.9B, which
      was primarily driven by Global demand as we note the $ book to-bill
      is therefore closer to 2x. Overall, we view this as giving Bombardier
      operational predictability and gives us a lot more confidence in the
      company's ability to achieve its 2025 targets, which are key to our very
      positive investment thesis on the shares.

      • Margins came in strong in Q1. Another important positive from the
      quarter was solid margin performance, which gives us more conviction
      that a much higher run-rate margin is achievable. While this was in part
      driven by services mix, we note that it came despite higher Challenger
      deliveries. Looking ahead, we expect increasing Global deliveries (which
      were a big driver of today's backlog increase) and an improving supply
      chain (in line with commentary from General Dynamics yesterday) as
      drivers of better margins in line with the company's 2025 targets.

      • FCF to be weighted to Q4. In line with our prior expectations,
      management noted on the conference call that FCF will be weighted
      to Q4. Management expects inventory investment during the first three
      quarters to be followed by a meaningful working capital release in Q4,
      largely in line with our prior expectations.

      Estimates and PT unchanged. We are not making any changes to our core
      assumptions as we expect the lower deliveries in Q1 will be offset in Q2-
      Q4 as the company ramps production. We are more confident in our 2025
      estimates reflecting improvement in the backlog and see upside to 2025
      targets on margin. PT unchanged at $95. Reiterate BBD as our top idea
      Bombardier Registered (B) | 61,74 C$
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      schrieb am 26.04.24 21:17:32
      Beitrag Nr. 2.487 ()
      Vielleicht noch ne info
      Hab mir vorhin mal das radiointerview von Eric Martel bei CBC angehört.
      Er sagte die Defense sparte läuft deutlich besser als sie erwartet haben. Aber dazu wird es nächste Woche mehr geben am Investorentag.
      Also das ist für mich die Bombe.. mal sehen was da kommt. Das sind hohe Margen und dicke Aufträge drin.
      Bombardier Registered (B) | 61,74 C$
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      schrieb am 26.04.24 21:10:02
      Beitrag Nr. 2.486 ()
      Nat. Bank von 95 CAD auf 92 Cad
      Nat bank : Steady progress
      Q1 deliveries below forecast, but new jet demand
      remains healthy

      Q1 results slightly below forecast

      Bombardier reported Q1 results this morning that were below NBF and
      consensus forecasts due to lower than forecasted jet deliveries, but
      management indicates that it remains on track to meet its 2024 guidance. For
      more detail, see our Q1 results Flash (link to BBD Q1/24 results Flash).

      2024 guidance unchanged

      While aircraft deliveries were lower than expected in Q1 at 20 versus our
      forecast for 24 (largely due to timing), management reiterated its target of
      150-155 deliveries for the full year. Financial guidance is also unchanged at
      $8.4-$8.6 billion in revenue with EBITDA forecasted in a range of $1.30-$1.35
      billion with EBIT of $850-$900 million. Free cash flow usage in Q1 also came
      in higher than expected, but management is still guiding to 2024 FCF of $100-
      $400 million and $900 million in 2025, which still looks achievable.

      Backlog grows nicely and demand looks healthy

      Backlog was $14.9 billion at the end of Q1 versus $14.2 billion at the end of
      last quarter and the book-to-bill was 1.6x (no cancellations in the quarter).
      Bombardier management indicates that demand for new jets remains healthy
      with more orders for Global model jets in Q1. Furthermore, global flying
      activity on Bombardier model jets is running 7% higher y/y, which we view as a
      solid leading indicator that order activity should remain solid.

      Maintain OP; target trimmed to C$92.00

      We maintain our Outperform rating on Bombardier shares and have trimmed
      our target slightly to C$92.00 from C$95.00 previously. Our thesis on
      Bombardier is unchanged; we see steady progress towards the company’s
      2025 financial targets underpinned by still healthy business jet end market
      conditions that we expect will ultimately drive a material increase in the
      share price.
      Bombardier Registered (B) | 61,74 C$
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      schrieb am 26.04.24 21:08:34
      Beitrag Nr. 2.485 ()
      CIBC von 61 CAD auf 67 CAD
      CIBC: Less sceptic than before

      Continuing To De-risk The Operations

      Our Conclusion

      BBD’s Q1 results highlight the success the company is having in de-risking
      its operations as it continues to build a wider liquidity and margin buffer. Our
      price target moves from C$61 to C$67 and we keep our Neutral rating.

      Key Points

      BBD’s Q1 results continue to highlight the success the company is having in
      de-risking its operations. The concern we often hear from investors is how
      BBD will perform through the cycle, recognizing business jet fundamentals
      are healthy today. BBD continues to take steps to widen the liquidity and
      margin buffer.

      On the liquidity front, BBD exited Q1 with pro forma liquidity of $1.42B, which
      is at the high end of its targeted range of $1.0B-$1.5B. Net leverage at the
      end of the quarter was 3.6x. The company also continues to make progress
      on debt reduction, with $100MM of debt redemption closed on April 15. BBD
      also successfully completed the issuance of $750MM of Senior Notes due
      2031, the proceeds of which will be used to repay existing outstanding debts.
      This effectively pushes out maturities and further strengthens the balance
      sheet. BBD is targeting a leverage ratio of 2.0x-2.5x in 2025.

      On the margin front, BBD printed 16% EBITDA margin in Q1, up 141 bps Y/Y
      and versus 9.2% back in Q1/21. The company noted Aftermarket Services
      in Q1 grew 13% Y/Y to $477MM and contributed 37% of total revenue.
      Growth in Aftermarket revenue, combined with healthy jet sales prices and
      cost management, drove the margin expansion we saw in the quarter. This
      highlights the revenue diversification strategy at BBD, which improves mix
      but also should help reduce the cyclicality in margins.

      The backlog also provides BBD with significant visibility. At the end of the
      quarter, the backlog stood at $14.9B and this equates to more than two
      years of revenue. Recent trends also point to demand remaining healthy. In
      Q1, book to bill was 1.6x, which is up significantly from 1.0x exiting 2023,
      and the backlog was up $700MM Q/Q.

      Heading to BBD’s Investor Day next week, we expect more colour on the
      company’s longer-term capital allocation plans and margin upside post-2025.
      On the former, we think BBD will look to alleviate concerns that it will need to
      enter into a new capex cycle heading into the back half of this decade to fund
      a new mid-size aircraft, which is supportive of cumulative FCF generation.
      The Challenger continues to sell well, so there isn’t any urgency to replace
      this model. We also expect more colour on the growth and expansion of
      Aftermarket Service, which has been a lift on margins, and potential growth
      opportunities within Defense. Recall that BBD’s 2025 target is to reach $2B
      of revenue in Aftermarket, and the company thinks Defense could reach $1B
      within the next five years.
      Bombardier Registered (B) | 61,74 C$
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      schrieb am 26.04.24 21:06:51
      Beitrag Nr. 2.484 ()
      Desjardins -> BBD from $96.00 to $101.00.
      Desjardins : Feeling Hot, Hot, Hot
      1Q24 recap—bookings are “Feeling Hot Hot Hot”

      The Desjardins Takeaway

      Overall, we view the results as positive given the stronger-than-expected bookings in
      the quarter and management’s positive commentary on the environment as well as
      the balance of the year. At next week’s investor day, we do not expect any changes/
      surprises in BBD’s existing 2025 targets as discussions will most likely centre on capital
      deployment and the growth opportunities for the company’s aftermarket, defence and
      certified pre-owned businesses.

      Highlights

      Financials miss slightly, mainly due to timing issues and heavy Challenger delivery
      mix—guidance reaffirmed and investors unconcerned. We now forecast 2024 revenue
      of US$8,402m, adjusted EBITDA of US$1,303m (15.5% margin) and FCF of US$271m,
      driven by 152 deliveries in 2024 (78 Challengers and 74 Globals). We expect the bulk of
      the working capital investment to occur in 1H as BBD builds up its inventories for the
      year (we forecast continued FCF consumption of -US$193m in 2Q).

      Bizjet market conditions remain robust—BBD hits 1Q bookings out of the park. The
      backlog ended 1Q at US$14.9b, up sequentially from US$14.2b. This represents a book
      to bill of 1.6x in units and 1.9x in sales and bookings. BBD reaffirmed that demand for its
      products remains strong across the globe despite economic headwinds, with booking
      activity in Europe picking up once again (had several Global orders from Europe in 1Q;
      the Dassault 6X and 10X delays could be a factor, in our view). Management also stated
      that it booked a nice Global defence order in the quarter. Combining these items with
      industry flight activity and commentary, we believe BBD has a clear line of sight in its
      sales pipeline to reach a book to bill of 1x in 2024.

      Valuation

      Increasing our target to C$101 (from C$96) as we adjust our estimates and await the
      investor day next week. Our target is based on an EV/EBITDA multiple of 8.6x on our
      2024 EBITDA forecast of US$1,303m. We have adjusted our exchange rate to C$1.37/
      US$1 (from C$1.35/US$1) to reflect current market rates.

      Recommendation

      Reiterating our bullish stance. We believe the current share price level provides an
      interesting entry point for long-term investors (see our recent note detailing our upside
      vs downside scenario analysis).
      Bombardier Registered (B) | 61,74 C$
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      schrieb am 26.04.24 20:59:05
      Beitrag Nr. 2.483 ()
      TD cowen 104Cad von 102Cad
      TD: Upgrade

      Q1/24; MARGIN JUMP AND STRONG ORDERS ADD TO STORY

      THE TD COWEN INSIGHT

      Bombardier reported Q1/24 Adjusted EBITDA of $205 million vs. our forecast of $216
      million and consensus of $224 million. A significant step-up in margin despite delivery and
      mix pressure points to much more margin expansion potential ahead. This combined with
      strengthening order activity and a show of confidence from management overshadowed
      the usual Q1 FCF usage, and delivery weakness

      Impact: SLIGHTLY POSITIVE

      We are maintaining our BUY recommendation and increasing our target to C$104 from C
      $102. The increased target reflects slightly higher forecast adjusted EBITDA, partially offset
      by higher valuation-period net debt resulting from the greater-than-forecast Q1/24 FCF
      usage. Our updated adjusted EBITDA estimates primarily reflect the carry forward of a
      portion of the stronger-than-forecast Q1/24 margins.

      Bombardier reported a good quarter that provided the equity market with confidence in
      certain metrics that had previously and, in our view, incorrectly been a concern for market.
      The stock moved up 8% on the day which demonstrates equity market enthusiasm for
      the highest margin in over 20 years, and the 1.6x book-to-bill ratio which depicts cyclical
      health and suggests a strong competitive position for the company's product portfolio. In
      previous quarterly reports, significant FCF usage early in the year, which was the case again
      in Q1/24, seemed to be a concern. This quarter, the market appears to be looking past early
      cash outflows, accepting that it should reverse over the course of the year, and instead
      focusing on what we believe is a significant fundamental undervaluation for a business that
      has numerous appealing investment attributes.

      We forecast 2024 and 2025 EBITDA margin of 16.0% and 18.0%, respectively, with margin
      expansion driven by higher aftermarket services revenue growth, increased deliveries, and
      mix shift. Our 2025 adjusted EBIT margin forecast of 12.9% compares to GD's (BUY; current
      price $284.94; target $315.00) 2024 EBIT margin guidance for its Aerospace segment of
      15.0%, suggesting additional upside to margins in the long term, in our view.

      2024 guidance was re-iterated and continues to imply strong revenue and earnings growth,
      strong (albeit down y/y) FCF and declining financial leverage. As expected, inventory
      investments should continue in Q2, although moderating sequentially. The company is
      hosting an Investor Day on May 1, and we believe the 2025 leverage target is the most
      likely (and potentially only) metric to be updated.
      Bombardier Registered (B) | 61,74 C$
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      schrieb am 26.04.24 15:36:35
      Beitrag Nr. 2.482 ()
      ohhh, jez übertreiben sie es wieder mal...
      ok, in die andere Richtung, aber wie lange?

      na vl. gibts ja ein noch schöneres Wochenende, aber heute ist doch Freitag, kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass es so dunkelGRÜN bleibt!!!
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