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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.765.569 von vermutung am 14.12.07 14:22:41yep, das bin ich. 
hattest du ernsthaft geglaubt, dass ich nach soviel recherche, geposte und schwarzseherei zu solchen kursen aussteige?
ich bin seit juni/juli mental auf 0,01 € vorübergehenden kurswert eingestellt - meine nerven sind zäh wie drahtseile.
aber wenn's schon nicht nach oben geht, dann zieht man wenigstens nutzen um dem finanzamt ein schnippchen zu schlagen.
hattest du ernsthaft geglaubt, dass ich nach soviel recherche, geposte und schwarzseherei zu solchen kursen aussteige?
ich bin seit juni/juli mental auf 0,01 € vorübergehenden kurswert eingestellt - meine nerven sind zäh wie drahtseile.
aber wenn's schon nicht nach oben geht, dann zieht man wenigstens nutzen um dem finanzamt ein schnippchen zu schlagen.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.765.447 von casameki am 14.12.07 14:12:07aaahhh, jetzt verstehe ich
dann bist DU ein MODERN ART of Dagobert Duck
also der
CASAMEKI DUCK
dann bist DU ein MODERN ART of Dagobert Duck
also der
CASAMEKI DUCK
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.765.352 von vermutung am 14.12.07 14:02:121/3 des bestandes habe ich umgewälzt.
evtl. mache ich später oder nächste woche mit einem weiteren drittel weiter, kommt auf den kursverlauf an.
fakt ist aber, dass ich hier nicht zocke sondern zügig nach dem verkauf wieder zurückkaufe (hat heute morgen alles in allem 1,5 stunden gedauert), da ich CCE im bestand behalten will.
fange ich erstmal an ein, zwei tage zu warten und auf günstigere kurse zu lauern, wird es mir zu kribbelig.
ich will nur ein argument für die steuer.
evtl. mache ich später oder nächste woche mit einem weiteren drittel weiter, kommt auf den kursverlauf an.
fakt ist aber, dass ich hier nicht zocke sondern zügig nach dem verkauf wieder zurückkaufe (hat heute morgen alles in allem 1,5 stunden gedauert), da ich CCE im bestand behalten will.
fange ich erstmal an ein, zwei tage zu warten und auf günstigere kurse zu lauern, wird es mir zu kribbelig.
ich will nur ein argument für die steuer.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.765.207 von casameki am 14.12.07 13:51:06habe ich gerade in einen anderen thread gesetzt, packe ich hier auch nochmal rein.
ersetze nur den firmennamen, dann passt's wieder:
zum berühmten tax loss selling (insebondere mit bezug auf die deadline) ...:
" ...
You can use capital losses taken in a given year to offset capital gains in the same year.
Any remaining loss can be used to reduce taxable capital gains in any of the 3 preceding years or in any other future year.
To maximize the benefit for each dollar of losses, your best strategy is to carry the losses back to the earliest year in which you had capital gains.
...
Here are some things to keep in mind when tax loss selling:
First, neither you, your spouse nor a corporation controlled by either of you can purchase identical stock within 30 days before or after your sale. If you do, Canada Customs and Revenue Agency (CCRA) will declare the sale a superficial loss, and deny you the loss (but not for ever - it's added back to the adjusted cost base of the repurchased stock).
Remember this in selecting losers to sell.
If you think a stock just might recover some or all of its value within that 30-day period, it may not be a good candidate for tax-loss selling.
And if you decide on tax-loss selling, sell before Christmas.
To ensure the transaction is completed before the December 31 deadline, you need to allow for the combination of holidays and the 3-business-day settlement period required on most sales.
..."
angenommen, tax loss selling ist wirklich ein (nicht "der") grund für den kursverfall, dann
- könnte es noch eine woche so weiter gehen
- dürfte es erst im februar wieder rauf gehen
- sieht man in rochester keinen kandidaten für einen schnellen rebound
nur für die, die glauben tax loss selling ist an allem schuld und montag gibt es ein neues ATH ...
ersetze nur den firmennamen, dann passt's wieder:
zum berühmten tax loss selling (insebondere mit bezug auf die deadline) ...:
" ...
You can use capital losses taken in a given year to offset capital gains in the same year.
Any remaining loss can be used to reduce taxable capital gains in any of the 3 preceding years or in any other future year.
To maximize the benefit for each dollar of losses, your best strategy is to carry the losses back to the earliest year in which you had capital gains.
...
Here are some things to keep in mind when tax loss selling:
First, neither you, your spouse nor a corporation controlled by either of you can purchase identical stock within 30 days before or after your sale. If you do, Canada Customs and Revenue Agency (CCRA) will declare the sale a superficial loss, and deny you the loss (but not for ever - it's added back to the adjusted cost base of the repurchased stock).
Remember this in selecting losers to sell.
If you think a stock just might recover some or all of its value within that 30-day period, it may not be a good candidate for tax-loss selling.
And if you decide on tax-loss selling, sell before Christmas.
To ensure the transaction is completed before the December 31 deadline, you need to allow for the combination of holidays and the 3-business-day settlement period required on most sales.
..."
angenommen, tax loss selling ist wirklich ein (nicht "der") grund für den kursverfall, dann
- könnte es noch eine woche so weiter gehen
- dürfte es erst im februar wieder rauf gehen
- sieht man in rochester keinen kandidaten für einen schnellen rebound
nur für die, die glauben tax loss selling ist an allem schuld und montag gibt es ein neues ATH ...
Trading Spotlight
Tax loss selling might reduce the bill for 2007
Kevin and Keith Greenard, Victoria Times Colonist
Published: Saturday, December 08, 2007
The primary reason for selling an investment should be that you no longer feel it is the best opportunity available.
But you can do some last-minute tax loss selling to reduce tax or to recover past tax paid.
As year-end approaches, we encourage you to take an assessment of your tax situation.
Rather than waiting until March, you may want to do some rough calculations now while you still have some control over your 2007 taxable income.
Start by gathering the following pieces of tax information:
. Unused net capital loss carry forward information by year
. Net capital gain information for 2004, 2005 and 2006
. Realized capital gains or losses for 2007 from selling non-registered investments (not including RRSP, RRIF, RESP), including stocks, bonds, mutual funds, exchange traded funds and real estate.
. Listing of unrealized capital gains and losses on your non-registered investments (those that you still own and have not yet sold) by taking the difference between the current market value and the adjusted cost base.
The following is a quick list of items to factor in when looking at your 2007 tax situation and non-registered investments:
. Mutual fund distributions or other income distributions designated as capital gains are generally included on tax slips (T3 and T5) that arrive in early 2008
. Certain mutual fund and exchange-traded fund distributions increase the adjusted cost base
. Dividend reinvestment plans should be factored in when determining an average cost for tax purposes
. If you hold the same security in multiple non-registered accounts, you will have to calculate an average cost for tax purposes
. Some investments have a return-of-capital component, which reduces the original cost that you paid
. Bonds purchased at a premium will create a capital loss at maturity and bonds purchased at a discount will create a capital gain
. Investments denominated in a foreign currency should have a cost base that is converted to Canadian dollars
. If you have any defunct or de-listed securities, you should determine if you have previously claimed the capital loss
. Ensure you factor in any Feb. 24, 1994 elections that you made
The following outlines some general rules to adhere to before doing any tax loss selling:
. Do not break the superficial loss rules. If you are selling a security to realize a capital loss, then you or an affiliated person (i.e. spouse, corporation) must not purchase the identical security within 30 calendar days.
. Do not transfer positions that are in a loss position to your RRSP as an "in-kind" contribution.
. Any donation of securities in-kind should be those that have unrealized capital gains only.
. Carry all current net capital losses back to the earliest year in which you have capital gains (maximum three years back).
. Focus on quality investments rather than making decisions solely for tax purposes.
The following are a few strategies relating to tax loss selling:
Strategy 1: Tax-loss selling and RRSP season often provide some opportunities for investors with cash on the sidelines. Positions that have performed negatively during the year may incur additional pressure as people execute on tax-loss selling. Obtaining a list of the year's worst performing stocks may create some attractive entry points. Some of the worst performing companies in 2007 may have positive outlooks for next year.
Strategy 2: You can give shares that are in a capital loss position to your children. You then can claim the appropriate tax loss. If the investment increases in value in the future then the capital gain would be taxable to the child. If the child has no other income then the gain should be tax-free if the taxable portion of the capital gain is under the basic exemption.
Strategy 3: Transferring capital losses to your spouse (or common law partner) may assist you in maximizing the tax refund. This strategy should be followed if your spouse is in a higher marginal tax bracket than you or has net capital gains from the past three years. In order for your spouse to claim your capital loss, you need to sell your spouse your shares at today's market value. Because of the superficial loss rules, your loss will be denied for tax purposes. However, your loss will be added to your spouse's cost base. As a result, you have effectively transferred your loss to your spouse. Your spouse must hold the shares for 30 days prior to selling the shares in the open market in order for their loss not to be denied for tax purposes.
Strategy 4: Sell positions that have a capital loss earlier in the year and wait 30 days. After 30 days you may purchase the investment again. For this strategy to work you need to factor in transaction costs, if any, and have the belief that the investment will not increase during the 30-day waiting period.
Most security transactions take three business days to settle after the trade is entered. This year the last day for tax loss selling in Canada is Dec. 24 and in the United States Dec. 26.
This column highlights some of the tax items to consider prior to tax-loss selling. If you have significant capital gains or losses, meet with your financial adviser and accountant.
Keith Greenard CIM FCSI and Kevin Greenard CA FMA CFP are members of The Greenard Group at ScotiaMcLeod in Victoria. Their column appears every second Tuesday in the TC. Call 250-389-2138, check the site www.greenardgroup.com or e-mail greenard_group@scotiamcleod.com.
http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/business/st…
Kevin and Keith Greenard, Victoria Times Colonist
Published: Saturday, December 08, 2007
The primary reason for selling an investment should be that you no longer feel it is the best opportunity available.
But you can do some last-minute tax loss selling to reduce tax or to recover past tax paid.
As year-end approaches, we encourage you to take an assessment of your tax situation.
Rather than waiting until March, you may want to do some rough calculations now while you still have some control over your 2007 taxable income.
Start by gathering the following pieces of tax information:
. Unused net capital loss carry forward information by year
. Net capital gain information for 2004, 2005 and 2006
. Realized capital gains or losses for 2007 from selling non-registered investments (not including RRSP, RRIF, RESP), including stocks, bonds, mutual funds, exchange traded funds and real estate.
. Listing of unrealized capital gains and losses on your non-registered investments (those that you still own and have not yet sold) by taking the difference between the current market value and the adjusted cost base.
The following is a quick list of items to factor in when looking at your 2007 tax situation and non-registered investments:
. Mutual fund distributions or other income distributions designated as capital gains are generally included on tax slips (T3 and T5) that arrive in early 2008
. Certain mutual fund and exchange-traded fund distributions increase the adjusted cost base
. Dividend reinvestment plans should be factored in when determining an average cost for tax purposes
. If you hold the same security in multiple non-registered accounts, you will have to calculate an average cost for tax purposes
. Some investments have a return-of-capital component, which reduces the original cost that you paid
. Bonds purchased at a premium will create a capital loss at maturity and bonds purchased at a discount will create a capital gain
. Investments denominated in a foreign currency should have a cost base that is converted to Canadian dollars
. If you have any defunct or de-listed securities, you should determine if you have previously claimed the capital loss
. Ensure you factor in any Feb. 24, 1994 elections that you made
The following outlines some general rules to adhere to before doing any tax loss selling:
. Do not break the superficial loss rules. If you are selling a security to realize a capital loss, then you or an affiliated person (i.e. spouse, corporation) must not purchase the identical security within 30 calendar days.
. Do not transfer positions that are in a loss position to your RRSP as an "in-kind" contribution.
. Any donation of securities in-kind should be those that have unrealized capital gains only.
. Carry all current net capital losses back to the earliest year in which you have capital gains (maximum three years back).
. Focus on quality investments rather than making decisions solely for tax purposes.
The following are a few strategies relating to tax loss selling:
Strategy 1: Tax-loss selling and RRSP season often provide some opportunities for investors with cash on the sidelines. Positions that have performed negatively during the year may incur additional pressure as people execute on tax-loss selling. Obtaining a list of the year's worst performing stocks may create some attractive entry points. Some of the worst performing companies in 2007 may have positive outlooks for next year.
Strategy 2: You can give shares that are in a capital loss position to your children. You then can claim the appropriate tax loss. If the investment increases in value in the future then the capital gain would be taxable to the child. If the child has no other income then the gain should be tax-free if the taxable portion of the capital gain is under the basic exemption.
Strategy 3: Transferring capital losses to your spouse (or common law partner) may assist you in maximizing the tax refund. This strategy should be followed if your spouse is in a higher marginal tax bracket than you or has net capital gains from the past three years. In order for your spouse to claim your capital loss, you need to sell your spouse your shares at today's market value. Because of the superficial loss rules, your loss will be denied for tax purposes. However, your loss will be added to your spouse's cost base. As a result, you have effectively transferred your loss to your spouse. Your spouse must hold the shares for 30 days prior to selling the shares in the open market in order for their loss not to be denied for tax purposes.
Strategy 4: Sell positions that have a capital loss earlier in the year and wait 30 days. After 30 days you may purchase the investment again. For this strategy to work you need to factor in transaction costs, if any, and have the belief that the investment will not increase during the 30-day waiting period.
Most security transactions take three business days to settle after the trade is entered. This year the last day for tax loss selling in Canada is Dec. 24 and in the United States Dec. 26.
This column highlights some of the tax items to consider prior to tax-loss selling. If you have significant capital gains or losses, meet with your financial adviser and accountant.
Keith Greenard CIM FCSI and Kevin Greenard CA FMA CFP are members of The Greenard Group at ScotiaMcLeod in Victoria. Their column appears every second Tuesday in the TC. Call 250-389-2138, check the site www.greenardgroup.com or e-mail greenard_group@scotiamcleod.com.
http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/business/st…
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.763.556 von casameki am 14.12.07 11:32:33so - ich mache mal ein wenig tax selling ...
bist Du eigentlich fertig mit deinem taxen?
bist Du eigentlich fertig mit deinem taxen?
bei stockhouse diskutiert man im übrigen auch über tax loss selling.
allerdings kann ich mir gut vorstellen, dass dieses thema über user aus dtl. dort eingeschleppt wurde - die cans lassen jedenfalls in ihren postings keine aha-effekte erkennen.
December being the end of the year is usually a time of "tax loss selling".
investors looking to carry losses across their books in order to reduce their capital gains.
The drawback here is that the securities commission will not allow you to buyback those shares/account for 30 days.
BTW tax loss deadline - Dec 21st.
Also, with the market melting down thanks to George W and his infinite spending, margin accounts are being tested to the max... when the bank calls, you get to choose the stocks to sell, and I can almost guarantee you CCE was sold by investors in order to balance their margin accounts ... poor ba$tards.
allerdings kann ich mir gut vorstellen, dass dieses thema über user aus dtl. dort eingeschleppt wurde - die cans lassen jedenfalls in ihren postings keine aha-effekte erkennen.
December being the end of the year is usually a time of "tax loss selling".
investors looking to carry losses across their books in order to reduce their capital gains.
The drawback here is that the securities commission will not allow you to buyback those shares/account for 30 days.
BTW tax loss deadline - Dec 21st.
Also, with the market melting down thanks to George W and his infinite spending, margin accounts are being tested to the max... when the bank calls, you get to choose the stocks to sell, and I can almost guarantee you CCE was sold by investors in order to balance their margin accounts ... poor ba$tards.
- jetzt klettert der Kurs so langsam und verschwitzt wieder auf den SK von gestern, nur um heute nachmittag / abend von den Cans wieder runtergeprüggelt zu werden ... - na ja - mal abwarten. Ich liege derzeit nach ner kleinen OP zu Hause rum - im Fernsehen nichts, was meinem Hirn als Nahrung dienen könnte, Lust zum Lesen habe ich auch keine und die DVD's schon alle gesehen - genau das richtige Wetter draussen um sich mit dem Kursverlauf von CCE zu quälen. Tut auch mal gut.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.765.154 von Doow am 14.12.07 13:46:15HALLO STEFAN, 3 wochen wäre es nicht schlimm dann würden die trader hier die krise bekommen.
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