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[benny_m]

typisch benny. viel scheisse und wenig inhalt

Wir reden in zwei Wochen mal drüber. Wenn die Engländer und die Franzosen mal 5,50 Euro ins Töpfchen werfen.

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die tiefs im dow haben jedenfalls gehalen. ich denke übrigens das wir das rettungspaket dennoch bekommen werden

[Pontiuspilatus]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.333.686 von benny_m am 29.09.08 20:32:50

typisch ami:

Erst ne große fresse und dann nix dahinter. wahrscheinlich dachten sie, dass sich die dankbaren und besiegten ausm zweiten Weltkrieg daran großzügig beteiligen würden

typisch benny. viel scheisse und wenig inhalt

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typisch ami:

Erst ne große fresse und dann nix dahinter. wahrscheinlich dachten sie, dass sich die dankbaren und besiegten ausm zweiten Weltkrieg daran großzügig beteiligen würden

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Stocks tumble as bailout plan fails in House
Monday September 29, 2:19 pm ET
By Tim Paradis, AP Business Writer
Stocks tumble as financial bailout plan fails in House vote; credit tightens further


NEW YORK (AP) -- Fear swept across the financial markets Monday, sending the Dow Jones industrials down as much as 705 points, after the financial bailout package failed the House.
As the vote was shown on TV, stocks plunged and and investors fled to the safety of the credit markets, worrying that the financial system would keep sinking under the weight of failed mortgage debt.

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"Clearly something needs to be done, and the market dropping 400 points in 10 minutes is telling you that," said Chris Johnson president of Johnson Research Group. "This isn't a market for the timid."

While investors had some worries that the vote would be close, many investors appeared to believe it would ultimately pass.

The markets were highly volatile, with the Dow regaining ground then falling backing again, trading down 577.37, or 5.18 percent, to 10,565.76.

Broader stock indicators also tumbled. The Standard & Poor's 500 index declined 79.35, or 6.54 percent, to 1,133.92, and the Nasdaq composite index fell 146.72, or 6.72 percent, to 2,036.62.

The Federal Reserve declined to comment on the market's decline.

With Wall Street in turmoil, the yield on the 3-month Treasury bill fell to 0.32 percent from 0.87 percent on Friday. That showed that investors were prepared to get meager returns on an investment as long as it was secure.

Marc Pado, U.S. market strategist at Cantor Fitzgerald, said investors are worried about the spread of troubles beyond banks in the U.S. to Europe and other markets.

"Things are dying and breaking apart while they sit there and vote on this thing," he said.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

NEW YORK (AP) -- Fear swept across the financial markets Monday, sending the Dow Jones industrials down as much as 705 points, as traders feared the financial bailout package would not pass the House.

As the vote was shown on TV, stocks plunged and and investors fled to the safety of the credit markets, worrying that the financial system would keep sinking under the weight of failed mortgage debt.

"Clearly something needs to be done, and the market dropping 400 points in 10 minutes is telling you that," said Chris Johnson president of Johnson Research Group. "This isn't a market for the timid."

The markets were highly volatile, with the Dow regaining ground to trade with a loss of about 360, then falling backing again, trading down 481.39, or 4.32 percent, at 10,661.74.

Broader stock indicators also fell. The Standard & Poor's 500 index declined 63.13, or 5.20 percent, to 1,150.14, and the Nasdaq composite index fell 124.29, or 5.69 percent, to 2,059.05.

With Wall Street nervous that the plan may not pass, the yield on the 3-month Treasury bill fell to 0.68 percent from 0.87 percent on Friday. That showed that investors were prepared to get meager returns on an investment as long as it was secure.

The Federal Reserve declined to comment on the market's decline.

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House votes against $700 billion rescue package

By Ruth Mantell & Steve Gelsi, MarketWatch
Last update: 2:13 p.m. EDT Sept. 29, 2008Comments: 154WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- House lawmakers voted 205 to 228 Monday against approving the historic $700 billion financial rescue plan, a sharp blow to the administration and bipartisan rallying efforts from leaders in Congress who warn that the country is on the brink of an economic precipice.
With elections approaching, some lawmakers -- both Democrats and Republicans -- may feel nervous about voting for a plan that risks so much taxpayer money and can't promise success. But the president has lobbied hard to approve the plan, and U.S. officials also have stressed the dire consequences of taking no action.
Critics say the plan does not adequately address problems such as job losses and a distressed housing market that underlie current economic weakness. U.S. officials had hoped the plan would ease the credit crunch and restore confidence in the markets, even as markets plunged around the world. Those in favor of the rescue plan may have been trying to treat the most manageable symptom -- a frozen credit market -- if not the actual disease.
A vote in the Senate was expected Wednesday, and the president would have followed with a speedy signature.
Earlier Monday, doubt emerged over whether enough representatives would vote in favor of the plan and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi appealed to colleagues in the early afternoon, stressing that representatives will continue to monitor financial issues and pursue additional strategies. She said it's imperative that the measure on the floor receives bipartisan support.
"That is the only message that will send a message of confidence to the markets," Pelosi said.
Colleagues applauded after appeals for bipartisan agreement on the rescue plan from Rep. John Boehner, House minority leader, and Rep. Barney Frank, chairman of the financial-services committee.
The risk of not acting is much higher than the risk of acting, according to Boehner.
"I didn't come here to vote for bills like this. Let me tell you this: I believe Congress has to act and that means each and everyone of use," he said.
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After a tentative agreement was set over the weekend, a $700 million Wall Street rescue plan could become law. But there are still holdouts and plenty of public anger. Fox's Doug Luzader reports. (Sept. 29)Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson have said the plan is necessary to avert serious consequences for markets and the economy.
There's evidence that voters may be warming to the plan: A new national survey shows that 33% of likely voters now favor the plan, up from 24% on Friday, according to Rasmussen Reports. The survey, conducted Sunday, also found that 32% of voters are opposed to the plan, compared with one-half of those surveyed Friday. Still, 35% of voters are not sure about the plan.
"Those who understand that taxpayers will eventually get much of the money back support the bailout by a 2-to-1 margin," Rasmussen Reports said. "Those who incorrectly believe the government will not be getting money back oppose the bailout by a 62% to 18% margin."
Need for speed
Even as politicians rushed to pass the legislation, investors voiced concern about its ultimate impact, as four European financial institutions were bailed out and Wachovia Corp.'s (WB:Wachovia Corp
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At the White House, Bush urged passage of the financial-rescue package, in a move to shore up the country's ailing lending system.
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Also Monday, Bernanke said he's looking forward to "swift passage" of the legislation. Bernanke has been urging lawmakers to move quickly on a rescue plan, warning that the economic and financial consequences of a delay would be dire.
"This legislation should help to restore the flow of credit to households and businesses that is essential for economic growth and job creation, while at the same time affording strong and necessary protections for taxpayers," Bernanke said in a statement.
The giant plan is needed to avert a deeper crisis that could hamper the flow of money throughout the financial system, President Bush said. He added that the credit crisis and the housing slowdown will remain facts of life for Americans for the time being.
'This bill provides the necessary tools and funding to help protect our economy against a systemwide breakdown.'
— President Bush
Under the measure, the federal government will purchase assets from banks in order to free up lending in the system, and strong oversight is included, Bush said before U.S. financial markets opened Monday.
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"I agree with the FDIC and the Federal Reserve that a failure of Wachovia would have posed a systemic risk," Paulson said in a brief statement.
The Treasury Department also said its temporary guarantee program for U.S. money-market funds in now open. For the next year, the Treasury will insure holdings of any publicly offered money-market mutual fund, retail and institutional, that pays a fee to participate. The temporary guarantee program provides coverage to shareholders for amounts that they held in participating funds as of Sept. 19.
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Your ZER0's are off a touch. It's only $425/person. Three zeros to the left of the decimal point makes a big difference.

The common American sucks at finances and math. No wonder the Nation is in such a state.

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smilingzebra 28 minutes ago +2 Votes (2 Up / 0 Dn)
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Sentpop goes the weasle
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SentHOLY s*** !! IT GOT SHOT DOWN!! There is a God after all !!
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SentI prayed for all of them in the universe.
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SentIt's always about "sending a message to the markets." That's just funny, since last time I checked the House of Representatives was in Washington, D.C., not NY, NY. Hmmm.
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The so called rescue of an IRRESPONSIBLE FEW by a DEBT to ALL
is the most Unfathomable Equation.

Within a couple days, TRILLIONS of dollars Borrowed are being spent on the basis of ASSUMPTIONS AND OPINIONS in this most unprecedented and astronomical Financial Collapse. The PUBLIC, from all that is said from various voices, is DEMANDING AN INQURY into this MELTDOWN. Americans Should Not and Will not RUBBER STAMP these Life Altering Decisions.

Even before and since the Bear Stearns Fiasco and the Big GRAB, responsible and intelligent minds would have thought that there was a very Urgent Need to develop EMERGENCY PLANS and Contingencies with Inputs from a cross section of the most knowledge minds in the relevant areas - Finance, Investment, Banking, Business, University, Government, etc. That the broad outlines of this Plan be disseminated to the Public.

For those Vast Sums there should be a Detail Public Account of what is being done and the continuing proposals. All that was made Public were Money Decisions, a few methods, some procedures and the award of Bounties. What seemed impractical, due to the processes required and clearly against certain Laws affecting Financial Institutions, is that a RUMP under the auspices of Presidential decree took actions. Crises are not an excuse for not having the best under the circumstances.

It should not overlook caution against fertile grounds for Shortsightedness, Easy and Quick Fixes, Incompetence, Suspect Deals/Usury, Unaccountability and Pretension of Total Knowledge.

The Public needs to be informed of the full details and the ramifications.
In retrospect, what Laws were broken?
What was directed and by whom?
Criteria that were established; Options decided upon?
Key result areas?
The Short and long term Liability to the Economy and Country?
The Responsibility and accountability for crucial aspects.
Was there a Committee set up to continue monitor the effects of the actions seeing that this is "TERRA INCOGNITO"?

Autocratic and Despotic rationing of Public Information undermines and destroys Democratic Institutions, if not Democracy itself. This should be taken into account strongly because this president's term of office expires in days. His track record speaks for itself. What does the American Public knows except that they have no choice but to Foot the BILL with protracted exacerbating conditions and ruinous hardships?

The so called rescue of an IRRESPONSIBLE FEW by a DEBT to ALL is the most unfathomable equation.

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SentIs the market halted yet? Did SEC stop the entire wall street trading?
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SentWow, big trouble in little China here. Wonder what O.B. and J.M. are thinking now? They thought they were going to go with the flow on this but it seems that it might be a real campaign issue ...
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SentThe Market FEAR over a SOCIALIST (BAILOUT) Bill...something has happened to the free market. Democrats promised us Armageddon if the Bailout didn't pass on Friday and we're still here. Hang on to your holdings and don't fall into this Political game the Democrats are playing to give the Treasury Secretary all-incompassing POWER!
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rettungspaket wurde abgelehnt

manchmal bin sogar ich überrascht

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das ist wohl der Grund. Man sieht ganz klar, was es für die Märkte bedeutet, wenn das bailout-Paket mit Abstrichen kommen wird. Ganz zu schweigen, ob das teil überhaupt was bringt längerfristig.


Treasurys add to gains after House rejects rescue package
By Deborah Levine
Last update: 1:53 p.m. EDT Sept. 29, 2008
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NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Treasurys added to gains Monday after initial indications that the U.S. House of Representatives surprisingly voted Monday against a proposal to prop up financial institutions being dragged down by losses on non-performing debt. Two-year note yields, which move in the opposite direction of prices, fell 34 basis points to 1.76%. The Dow Jones Industrial Average plunged more than 500 points to 10,684.22. The proposal would have allowed the government to initially purchase up to $250 billion on assets from firms, with further approval needed to get to the full $700 billion Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson initially proposed. End of Story

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sabberlott, jetzt gehts ab...die US-Börsen tauchen gerade mächtig ab...jetzt scheint Panik angesagt...muss wohl heute mein 4. Hefe öffnen und nen Schnaps hinterher...

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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.331.371 von Pontiuspilatus am 29.09.08 18:43:25

Vergess mir die WFC nicht, auch die sehr internationale BNS hält sich recht stabil.