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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 42.922.365 von Badkreuznach am 19.03.12 12:06:54

Hi Badkreuznach ,

wen es interessiert ....ich habe die Bibliothek bezgl. der Aktienanzahl auf den aktuellen Stand gebracht, um den SC3 (Englon) ergänzt und unter der Rubrik "Grüne Technologie" die Produktion der Lithium-Ionen-Batterien der JV-Firma von A123 für Geely mit eingepflegt ...

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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 42.922.356 von Badkreuznach am 19.03.12 12:05:30

Ich kaufe ein i ...

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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 42.922.356 von Badkreuznach am 19.03.12 12:05:30

Nachtrag: http://www.hmdatalink.com/PDF/C00530/e00175(247).pdf

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Die Dvidende nimmt man doch gerne ...

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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 42.921.261 von Sangonr1 am 19.03.12 08:47:41

Und noch ein Bericht über die zukünftigen Behördenfahrzeuge ....

"Government purchasing – It is time for local brands
Commentary, Industry News | Gong Zai Yan | March 19, 2012 at 2:58 pm
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Hongqi (Red Flag) is being revived slowly buy surely, Shanghai is reviving, Beijing is Reviving. The old famous Chinese car brands which disappeared for many years are reviving at the same time, of course they are not being brought back for nostalgic purposes, they are being brought back to satisfy a government demand for anything that isn’t German. How can you tell your people to buy domestic, when you don’t drive domestically yourself? Leading by example is the way forward.

Recently, The Ministry of Industry and Information Technology released the new Detailed Regulation for government’s car purchasing and the Catalogue of government purchasing car models. According to the Detailed Regulation, manufacturers who want their models enter the Catalogue must reinvest more than 3% of prime operating revenue into R&D in the past 2 years. Additionally, the manufacturers must have their own models’ intellectual property, i.e. a self developed vehicle that the company owns outright.

Of course, the interpretation of the policy varies depending on the government, but the result is that all 412 models in the Catalogue are local brands’. The usual government favorites such as the Audi A6 LWB, VW Passat, Honda Accord, Toyota Camry disappeared from the list.Some say this Chinese policy is illegal according to WTO laws. Some say joint ventures still have much opportunity because the policy execution may not be rigid when or if it comes into force. But I want to say, Chinese local car brands will grow much faster because of this policy – other topics are not important compared with this.

First, government purchasing will bring a better brand image. After a 10-year run, many Chinese local brands have grown from mere plagiarizers to a leading companies. Their products are positioned higher in the market and look nicer. However, when they want to build better cars to battle with joint ventures’ models, consumers continue to vote with their wallet and buy JV produced model – it seems local brands are doomed to be low-end cheap cars, local brands, like Chery, Geely, BYD, are facing a bottleneck in the branding department.

If officials government take to local brand cars – no matter if joint ventures’ cars are rejected entirely –local brand cars will be much welcomed by public. To ride a same car with officials is an important culture for Chinese businessmen, because this shows the car owner is modest and gentle. Secondly, the revival of old famous local brands is a signal that the policy should be carried out with great care, for example, Shanghai Automotive does have local brands –Roewe and MG, but they still want to attach the old-fashioned Shanghai logo onto the new Roewe 750 which is based on Buick LaCrosse. To revive a brand costs a lot – if Shanghai Automotive is unconfident to the Shanghai brand in government purchasing market, they may not revive it. FAW’s Hong Qi and Beijing’s own Beijing brands face similar quandaries. Government fleets purchasing policy is like entering a college. It can do little to the childish local manufacturers, but when they became stronger young men confused about their future, the college should aim cultivate them in to industry leaders. Chinese local brands have grown up but facing some bottlenecks, so it is time to help them with government purchasing."

http://www.chinacartimes.com/2012/03/19/government-purchasin…

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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 42.921.261 von Sangonr1 am 19.03.12 08:47:41

Chinesen übernehmen einen deutschen Autoteilezulieferer zu 100%....

"Lingyun buys German parts company, Kierkert

Industry News | Ash | March 19, 2012 at 2:16 pm
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Chinese buy outs of OEM car manufacturers is slower than what was expected in the dark days of 2008, of course Geely bought Volvo for a song but other buyouts such as the Hummer and Saab deals fell flat on their faces. The parts business has been another story, multiple buyouts by Chinese companies have been been happening over the past four years, Lawrence Automotive, for example was taken over by Ningbo Huaxiang at the height of the economic crises in 2008. Chinese media have been eager to highlight the more recent overseas acquisition by Lingyun, but what hasn’t been mentioned is that Lingyun is part of Norinco, a State Owned arms group that once got its hands slapped by the FBI and ATF for selling automatic weapons to American drug gangs.

From China Daily:

The automotive supplier Lingyun Industrial Group Corp and two other Chinese companies signed an agreement on March 13 to acquire 100 percent of the German car-lock maker Kiekert AG, a step meant to strengthen Lingyun’s technology and position it for global growth.

The Hebei-based Lingyun said in a statement it would take over 55 percent of Kiekert from a foreign consortium that includes BlueBay Asset Management, Silver Point Capital and Morgan Stanley.

The related company Henan North Xingguang Machinery and Electric Co Ltd, which is under the China North Industrial Group Corp, will have a 25 percent stake. An investment foundation from Tianjin will have the rest.

Lingyun said that the takeover will help it obtain world-class vehicle parts technologies and make it possible for the company to compete in the global market.

The financial details of the deal weren’t disclosed.

The 150-year-old Kiekert said in a statement that the world’s leading producer of latch systems for passenger cars “is very well prepared for the sale to the strategic investor from the automotive sector”.

In 2011, Kiekert sold more than 41 million latch systems, a record for the company. Expansion in Asia helped it achieve sales of more than 500 million euros ($653 million).

Through the acquisition, a supplier company with turnover of more than 1 billion euros and massive global growth potential is emerging, said Kiekert.

“Overseas acquisitions offer an opportunity and shortcut for Chinese automotive players to obtain core vehicle technologies,” said Jia Xinguang, an independent auto analyst based in Beijing.

“China perennially lacks key technologies and the ability to develop new technologies in the vehicle parts sector. Domestic parts makers are just surviving at the bottom of the supply chain.”

Alex Fan, president of the Los Angeles-based merger and acquisition specialist Crestridge Consulting, said it would be smart for Chinese automakers to target foreign parts suppliers, not vehicle makers, when they invest.

Chinese vehicle parts makers have sought to expand by making overseas acquisitions.

In December 2010, Pacific Century Motors, a joint venture between Tempo Group and the Beijing municipal government, completed the acquisition of General Motors Co’s steering-parts manufacturing unit, Nexteer Automotive, at an estimated price of $420 million to $450 million.

After it purchased suspension and brakes businesses from the US parts maker Delphi Automotive LLP in 2009, BeijingWest Industries Co Ltd, which is partly owned by the Beijing municipal government, acquired the brakes manufacturing unit of German automotive supplier Robert Bosch GmbH last year.

Employing 4,000 people in its production, research and development bases in Germany, the Czech Republic, the United States, Mexico and China, Kiekert is the market and technology leader for automotive side door latches. It also invented modern central locking systems. It has registered more than 850 patents.

Lingyun develops, produces and sells plastic and metal components for vehicles, such as body trim, specialized tubes, door elements and drive shafts.

With about 10,000 staff members, the State-owned company achieved sales of more than 700 million euros last year."

http://www.chinacartimes.com/2012/03/19/lingyun-buys-german-…

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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 42.921.261 von Sangonr1 am 19.03.12 08:47:41

Letztendlich glaube ich persönlich, dass sich die Ankündigung mit dem Markteintritt in UK mit der Einschätzung von Sangonr deckt.

Geely will ab 2013 in den kommenden 5 Jahren zusätzlich 5 neue Modelle auf den UK-Markt bringen.

Geely weiß mit Sicherheit aber auch, dass die Markteinführung eines chin. Autoherstellers in einem westeuropäischen Land mit grossem Misstrauen von den Verbrauchern und "Schlechtmacherei" durch die etablierten PLatzhirsche einher gehen wird.

Umso wichtiger wird es dann sein, dass die Fahrzeuge mind. 4 Punkte im E-NCAP erzielen und max. Ausstattung zum erschwinglichen Preis + entspr. Service im Angebot haben.

Sollte Geely den Markteintritt in UK "versemmeln", dann wird es das für Geely auf lange Sicht in der westlichen Welt gewesen sein und diese Schmach (was in China mit Sicherheit bei einem desaströsen UK-Markteintritt als solche empfunden wird) wird Geely mit Sicheheit nicht zulassen ....

Aber wie gesagt, alles meine rein persönliche Meinung....

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Tjoa,

das mit dem Markteintritt Anfang diesen Jahres in "bella Italia" scheint wohl eine "Ente" gewesen zu sein ...der Markteintritt in UK ende diesen Jahres nimmt wohl aber immer mehr Formen an ...

"Geely to launch in UK this year
Published on March 19, 2012 by Tycho de Feyter

Geely will start sales of its Emgrand EC7 compact car at the end of 2012 through a new distribution company called Geely Auto UK. Manganese Bronze Holdings, which partners Geely in building London black cabs in England and China, will set up the distribution company and a UK dealer network.

The Emgrand EC7 will be priced from 10 000 pounds (11 700 euros) and initially will be offered with a 1,5 litre or 1,8 litre petrol engine and a five year, 100 000 mile (170 000 kilometre) warranty. The car was recently awarded a four out of five stars rating by crash test organisation Euro NCAP

Geely Auto UK marketing manager Maria Holmes said the company aims to sell 1 000 units of the Emgrand EC7 in 2013, the first full year of sales. Volume will increase in the mid- and long-term as new models go on sale, she said.

Geely plans to introduce at least one new model in the UK every year for the next four to five years.

Geely is also looking at launching sales in other European markets but the plan is to become established first in the UK with the help of Manganese Bronze Holdings, said Holmes. He added that Geely had plans to recruit 30 to 40 dealers in the UK for the brand’s launch.

Geely said its UK sales operations will be separate from those of Volvo Cars, which Geely bought from Ford in 2010. Geely Auto UK is based in Coventry, central England, and shares offices with Manganese Bronze Holdings’ London Taxi Company. Manganese Bronze Holdings CEO John Russell said in a statement: “We are all aware of the success that Kia and Hyundai have had in the UK and we can work with Geely to achieve similar success in the future.”"

http://www.carnewschina.com/2012/03/19/geely-to-launch-in-uk…

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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 42.921.106 von hauswand am 19.03.12 08:07:41

Da wird ja nicht nur einfach von heut auf morgen ein Vertrag geschlossen oder ein JV gemacht. Erfahrungsgemäß ist da schon seit der Übernahme wahrscheinlich sogar im Vorfeld das Projekt gestartet und ständig bearbeitet worden.
Auch hat man hierdurch die Hintertür aus der Konsolidierung geschaffen. Denn Volvo mit 4 Werken und Geely Auto können dann die geforderten Mindestbedingungen vorweisen bzw. zeitnah erfüllen.
Da wird man dann nicht daran rütteln.

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Moinsen Geelianer ,

ich denke, dass mit dem GX7 und SX7 alles gut wird, auch wenn er ein "bischen" später kommt .

Ich hatte hier, vor ca. 4 Wochen, mal einen Beitrag reingestellt, dass der GX7 eine Fülle an Sicherheitsfeatures (u. a. BMBS) enthalten soll. K. A. ob für alle Modelle dieses gilt und ob es sich nicht um einen Übersetzungsfehler handelt, aber ich denke schon, dass Geely bei seinen prestigeträchtigen Modellen (GX7, GC7, EC8, EC7 etc.) schon darauf achtet, dass die Sicherheit (5 Sterne C-NCAP) gewährleistet ist, zumal man sich bei Geely nom Lowbudget-Hersteller endlich lösen will .....

Im folgenden ein interessanter Bericht über den Behördenfahrzeug-Erlass:

"Analysis: New policy on government cars draws mixed opinions
By Carmen Lee From Gasgoo.comMarch 19, 2012
Gasgoo.com (Shanghai) - The relationship between government vehicle purchasers and own brand manufacturers has once again caught the attention of the Chinese press. The new list of approved vehicles for government purchase, released by the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology on February 24, contains only domestic models, with no imported or joint venture models present. However, domestic manufacturers have approached the new policy with a cautious, almost skeptical, attitude.

Gasgoo.com (Chinese), in association with the 21st Century News Group, conducted a week long survey on the topic earlier this month, collecting opinions from 3,865 industry experts and insiders.

When asked about their feelings on the policy, a majority of respondents answered that they supported the government's decision to purchase own brand vehicles, with only 12 percent opposing and six percent undecided. Most proponents of the policy agree that it will help aid in the development of Chinese own brands. However, there is still disagreement in certain circles on whether or not the government will actually take this step to protect domestic manufacturers.

With once rapid growth in the automobile industry beginning to slow last year, Chinese manufacturers have faced an increasingly uphill battle in regaining market share lost to foreign competitors. The government has apparently taken heed of their plight, with the new government car policy seen as a relatively proactive step in protecting local industry.

The government has previously voiced its concerns on the state of Chinese automobile manufacturers, with the central government having passed policies addressing the matter in the past. However, due to lack of clear monitoring, unclear phrasing, and other factors, the policies failed to achieve their desired effect, with foreign owned joint ventures controlling around 80 percent of the market for government vehicles. The fact that black Audi sedans have become synonymous with the government is clear proof that domestic manufacturers have unable to make inroads in the market for official use vehicles.

That said, the new MIIT list is unprecedented in its scope, with some in the industry going as far as describing it as a new beginning for Chinese own brands. However, several manufacturers are far less optimistic, with the general consensus being that the new policy will fail to live up to its lofty expectations. On this matter, 51 percent of survey participants said that they believe the list was mainly the government showing its support for domestic manufacturers. 28 percent answered that it was a real step to prevent further decline among domestic manufacturers, while 16 percent said it was merely an internal reform unrelated to the industry.

Regardless of whether the policy is merely symbolic or a true reform, it is impossible to deny that it will be difficult to force foreign JV brands out of a market they have dominated for several years. 53 percent of respondents answered that the new policy's success depends on the government's implementation. 15 percent, meanwhile, worried that it will not be of any practical use to domestic manufacturers.

Summarizing opinions on the policy as a whole, 40 percent of respondents were fairly negative, saying that any progress it would generate in the short-term would be very brief, with it being forgotten over time. Another 32 percent was even more cynical, arguing that local officials would find ways to ignore the policy, diminishing its effectiveness. Only nine percent were optimistic that government bodies would strictly adhere to the policy. The remaining 19 percent were undecided.

Those doubting the policy aren't entirely unjustified, with previous legislation failing to be effective due to poor implementation. For example, the Government Procurement Law, effective on January 1, 2003, similarly pushed for official bodies to purchase domestic goods and services. However, due to ambiguous wording, it was left undecided whether or not government vehicles were covered by the policy or not. Later on, the central government revised pieces of legislation to ensure that domestic brands constitute at least 50 percent of all newly purchased government vehicles. The revised legislation has essentially not been implemented.

Despite these setbacks, a minority of survey participants are optimistic in the new policy's prospects. 17 percent believe that it will help improve the brand image of domestic enterprises, while seven percent maintain that foreign JVs will actually lose their hold in the government car market. Nine percent answered that the policy will help increase domestic manufacturers' overall performance in the Chinese automobile market."

http://autonews.gasgoo.com/commentary/analysis-new-policy-on…