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      schrieb am 14.02.12 11:25:39
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 42.746.609 von Ralph8 am 14.02.12 10:36:16"Researchers claim that Chinese electric cars are bad for the enivronment
      Green News, Industry News | Ash | February 14, 2012 at 2:43 pm
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      This report, via UPI.com, states that electric cars are worse for the environment in China than traditional gasoline cars owing to the way that China generates its electricity. The question remains, how many pure electric vehicles are there are on Chinese roads in 2012? Our unofficial guesstimate places the no of electric cars – that’s passenger cars at sub 1,000 (that’s probably way over the actual figure) and the no of EV Buses in a similar range. The number of electric bikes on the other hand is likely to be in the millions area.

      Electric cars in China are having an impact on pollution more harmful to health than gasoline vehicles, U.S. researchers say.

      Researchers at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville, analyzed the emissions and environmental health impacts of five vehicle technologies in 34 major Chinese cities.

      While electric cars have been seen as environmentally friendly, the researchers determined they are in fact responsible for more overall harmful particulate matter pollution than gasoline cars, a university release reported Monday.
      The reason, they said, is because for electric vehicles, combustion emissions occur where electricity is generated rather than where the vehicle is used, and in China 85 percent of electricity production is from fossil fuels with about 90 percent of that from coal
      .

      “An implicit assumption has been that air quality and health impacts are lower for electric vehicles than for conventional vehicles,” civil and environmental engineering professor Chris Cherry said. “Our findings challenge that by comparing what is emitted by vehicle use to what people are actually exposed to.”

      The researchers say they discovered the power generated in China to operate electric vehicles emits polluting particles at a much higher rate than gasoline vehicles do.

      In terms of air pollution impacts, electric cars are more harmful to public health per mile traveled in China than conventional vehicles, they said.

      “The study emphasizes that electric vehicles are attractive if they are powered by a clean energy source,” Cherry said. “In China and elsewhere, it is important to focus on deploying electric vehicles in cities with cleaner electricity generation and focusing on improving emissions controls in higher polluting power sectors.”"


      http://www.chinacartimes.com/2012/02/14/researchers-claim-ch…
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      schrieb am 14.02.12 11:22:29
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 42.746.609 von Ralph8 am 14.02.12 10:36:16Hallo Ralph :),

      jupp, zumindest ist es immer noch Stand der Dinge ;)....

      Hier mal ein interessanter Bericht über die Überkapazitäten in Indien und die Entwicklung in China....


      "India Capacity Glut gives Clues to China’s Future
      Industry News | FrankF | February 14, 2012 at 10:33 am
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      India has often been painted as the ‘next China’ in terms of auto sales, the sub continents auto sales reached new highs during 2009-2010 but sales slowed slightly in 2011 which has Reuters in a flap over a potential capacity glut. India runs on a slightly different method to the rest of the world, with its annual car sales methodology running on a March to March basis rather than a January to December system. High interest rates are being blamed for a potential drop in sales for the first time since 2002, however January sales were up 7.2% which shows there is some play in the market, but analysts say that the market is still heading to miss early projections:

      Annual car sales in India are likely to drop for the first time since 2002 in the fiscal year ending March after January sales fell short of expectations, an industry body said.

      Car sales, which grew 30 percent in the year ending March 2011, posted their first monthly fall in three years last July as high financing and running costs deterred buyers.

      “The car industry is too sensitive to interest rates, and we don’t see interest rates coming down quickly,” Vishnu Mathur, director general of the Society of Indian Automobile Manufacturers (SIAM), told reporters on Wednesday.

      “Unless sales grow in February-March at 10 to 12 percent, which is unlikely, the industry will miss the sales projection,” he said, referring to its forecast for zero to 2 percent growth.

      Now onto the over capacity issue:

      Lured by 30 percent sales growth over the past two fiscal years, carmakers have pledged $6 billion to almost double India’s annual production to more than 6 million vehicles. But now sales growth has come to a screeching halt and production capacity could be as much as 40 percent more than demand.

      In September 2010, Maruti Suzuki (MRTI.NS), the industry’s biggest player in India, announced a $390 million investment to expand capacity by 250,000 cars a year. It looked like a smart move then.

      Indians bought 2.5 million cars in the fiscal year that ended in March 2011, an increase of 63 percent — or 1 million cars — over two years. Global majors like General Motors (GM.N), Toyota (7203.T) and Peugeot (PEUP.PA) soon followed. But the sales boom didn’t last.

      Car sales will likely shrink in the current fiscal year, for the first time in 10 years, leaving an excess capacity of around 1 million cars that the industry says will lead to falling utilization or a profit-eroding price war.

      “If everybody comes along with what they say they are going to do, we are definitely going to have serious surplus capacity,” said Maruti’s chairman, R.C. Bhargava.

      “With more manufacturers coming, everyone will have to work with thinner margins,” Bhargava said, adding that capacity could be 30 to 40 percent higher than demand in the next few years

      China has arguably already gone through the price war era with manufacturers on a race to the bottom by producing ever cheaper cars on ever reducing margins which only hurts the companies bottom line, with less profit they have less to reinvest in R&D which becomes a trap that’s hard to get out of. Chinese manufacturers have been able to fight back with increasingly improved vehicles but foreign dominance of the Chinese auto market persists, Chinese manufacturers are now betting big on exports to keep their factories turning over in 2012 and beyond. During boom years from 2009-2010 Chinese and foreign automakers expanded their capacity in China to new levels, but these new factories have been running at less than full capacity in many instances and are indicative of a potential Indian style capacity glut if domestic and export sales do not pick up as planned."


      http://www.chinacartimes.com/2012/02/14/india-capacity-glut-…
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      schrieb am 14.02.12 10:36:16
      Beitrag Nr. 4.514 ()
      Hallo an alle,

      Ist die Meldung aus 2009 noch aktuell?



      Ab 2012 werden keine Autos mehr unter dem Namen Geely gebaut. Die Volvo-Besitzer aus China konzentrieren sich auf andere Marken.
      Der chinesische Hersteller Geely will ab 2012 nur noch Autos unter seinen Markennamen Gleagle, Emgrand und Shanghai Englon verkaufen. Geely selbst läuft aus. Die Chinesen waren im Frühjahr 2009 mit einem dreisten Plagiat des Rolls-Royce Phantom namens GE bekannt geworden. Die Luxus-Limousine könnte dann als Emgrand GE laufen. Anfang 2010 hatte Geely die schwedische Traditionsmarke Volvo von Ford ins Portfolio übernommen. Sie soll offenbar auch erhalten bleiben.
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      schrieb am 14.02.12 08:14:18
      Beitrag Nr. 4.513 ()
      Moinsen Geelianer :),

      tjoa, ich persönlich halte von der CS recht wenig, allerdings führen sie in ihrer Begründung, warum Geely von OUTPERFORM auf NEUTRAL mit einem Ziel von 2,5 HK-$ herabgestuft wird, das auf, was wir hier schon häufiger vermutet haben und was u. U. auch zu der massiven Verzögerung vom GX7 und GC7 führt....Geely hat wohl Probleme mit dem Automatikgetriebe :(....

      "CS cuts GEELY AUTO (00175) to Neutral, switches to DONGFENG GROUP (00489)
      2012-02-14 10:44:13 Email Print New Window Size

      Credit Suisse reported on GEELY AUTO (00175) stating its Neutral rating and target $2.5 with the following details:

      We downgrade Geely to NEUTRAL (from Outperform) and maintain our target price of HK$2.50.

      Our recent discussion with management suggests the new Xiangtan gearbox plant is ramping up slower than expected due to components shortage and this could take a year to resolve. We believe this could lead to relatively muted ASP and margins improvement with fewer automatic transmission cars sold.

      While we remain positive on Geely’s mid to long-term potential with improving product mix, we think a lot of positives have been priced in following the recent strong share price performance. With the lack of near-term catalysts, we would like to see strong execution delivery on new and refreshed products before turning more positive on the stock from current levels.

      Geely currently trades at 10.7x FY12 P/E, slightly below historical average. We recommend investors take profit and switch to our top sector pick Dongfeng for its rich product cycle, strong execution track record and attractive valuations at 8.5x FY12 P/E. (y)

      AAStocks Financial News
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      http://www.aastocks.com/EN/News/HK6/61/NOW.473625.html
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      schrieb am 13.02.12 18:38:11
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 42.743.877 von BriBumer am 13.02.12 18:27:02_____________________________

      Du liegst richtig - Bri -
      Geely wird nach und nach seinen Weg gehen.

      Dauert halt noch ein Weilchen - aber Geduld
      wird sich auszahlen.

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      schrieb am 13.02.12 18:27:02
      Beitrag Nr. 4.511 ()
      also ich bin die letzten tage sehr zufrieden, :D
      bei geely nr noch -18% :D
      und bei haier sogar 1% im plus :D

      meine zwei größten invests erholen sich langsam,
      vielleicht klappt es ja bei diesem anlauf etwas luft nach unten auszubauen :D

      weiterhin LONG!^^

      bevor ichs vergesse, könnte mir gut vorstellen das,dass BMB System von geely viel dazu beiträgt das wir steigen.

      solche patente darf man nicht unterschätzen!
      und wenn es nicht nur in china pflicht werden würde hätte geely fürs erste ein monopol in diesem bereich! mit welchem man schön geld scheffeln kann! :)
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      schrieb am 13.02.12 18:03:12
      Beitrag Nr. 4.510 ()
      Zitat von Sangonr1: Der Glaube versetzt Berge!! :cool:


      :laugh::laugh: - glaubst du deshalb, dass Geely auf 5 € steigt ?

      Und Edelmetall steigt nicht ? :confused:

      Wie auch immer, wir sind auf dem richtigen Weg - denn eine solche Situation
      hatten wir weltweit noch nie - es ist richtig aus den Papierwerten rauszugehen und in Sachwerte zu investieren.

      Und das haben wir ja alle gemacht - Geely (u. a. ) und Edelmetalle
      sind Sachwerte.

      Kompliment ! Wir haben mehr getan als 90 % der Bevölkerung.


      In diesem Sinne:



      Go, Luzie, gooo......


      ..................................................



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      schrieb am 13.02.12 18:01:19
      Beitrag Nr. 4.509 ()
      "China Auto Market Crawls at Slow Pace in 2011
      Chinese Car News, Industry News | Ash | January 13, 2012 at 11:40 am

      The Chinese auto market saw its slowest period of growth since 1999 according to figures released yesterday, the Chinese market grew by just 2.45% over the course of 2011. Elsewhere in the world, the US market showed itself as the continued bedrock of the world auto industry with 2011′s sales rising by 10% and an expected growth of between 4 and 12% over the course of 2012. The Brazilian auto market rose by 3.4% with sales of 3.63 million units over the course of 2011, Mexico also saw an increased output to 2.65 million units but domestic car sales remain weak with just over 900,000 cars being sold. The Indian market followed the Chinese market with a slower than expected growth rate of just 4.3% in 2011 and 1.95 million cars sold, as with China, India enjoyed a growth rate of 31% in 2010.

      The slow down in the Chinese market is being blamed on a number of issues, primarily the lack of subsidies towards car buyers. In 2009 the government lowered sales tax on sub 1.6L displacement cars to a mere 5% to encourage consumers to buy automobiles, by 2010 this tax had been raised to 7.5% and then restored to its original 10% in 2011 which has put many off car buying. Increased inner city congestion in certain tier two cities, especially those cities that are suffering from increased road works owing to subway line development has also put consumers off car ownership, increased fuel costs are also likely to blame.

      Overall the Chinese market grew by just 2.45% in 2011 with total sales of 18.5 million and total production of 18.4 million vehicles over the course of the year. Certain segments did see strong growth, SUV’s for example grew by 20.19%, and MPV’s were up by 11.74%, showing that there is still plenty of strong growth in these areas, particularly family use MPV’s. Commercial vehicles are always a strong indicator of a healthy economy, but in 2011 sales of CV’s dropped by 6.31%, buses and coaches were up 13.25%, trucks were down 4.57 whilst larger semi trucks were down by a staggering 27.37%. Sales of small mini vans such as the type produced by Wuling and Chang’an reached 2,140,766."


      http://www.chinacartimes.com/2012/01/13/china-auto-market-cr…
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      schrieb am 13.02.12 17:56:14
      Beitrag Nr. 4.508 ()
      N´abend Geelianer :),

      auch wenn UBS einen Kurs von 3 HK-$ ausgegeben hat, bin ich doch z. Z. echt baff, wie sich der Kurs entwickelt.....eigentlich müsste jetzt langsam Schluss sein bzw. neue Aktien ausgegeben werden :D;)....
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      schrieb am 13.02.12 17:25:58
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      Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 42.743.103 von Beans01 am 13.02.12 16:11:10Der Glaube versetzt Berge!! :cool:
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