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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 38.600.697 von hallo000de am 18.12.09 22:31:42anscheinend leiden hier einge an real-verlust....
paar Verkäufe?
paar Verkäufe?
AUS IHUB
Insensitive: Are you kidding me? Read between the lines my friends and listen to the hearing if you have not. Listen to what Rosen said, that is a hint!
read this ....
http://www.bayardfirm.com/pdfs/equity-committees-representat…
Go about half way down the page and then re-read this paragraph.
“Ad hoc” or informal committees often will already have been formed before such a request, so
that equity's concerns may have already been brought to the attention of management or debtor's
counsel (with less than satisfactory results). These committees consist of shareholders who are
knowledgeable of the company's condition and typically disenchanted with the attention given to
their interests or management's general intentions regarding equity. These informal committees
invariably are represented by counsel. In fact, given the volume of recent equity committee
solicitations, there are a growing number of law firms and financial advisory firms who actively
compete to represent such committees. Like professionals for official creditors' committees,
673694-1
professionals for official equity committees are compensated from assets of the bankruptcy estate.
Translation: Rosen of Weil does not want to spend the money for the Attorney Firm that will be representing the EC. Also he does not need another firm to have to share the info with or have sitting at the table. he thinks or maybe is under the impression he can get it done satisfactorily, but WE need REPRESENTATION no matter what the cost to the estate.
Now re-read this part.
Under the Code, upon request the Court may order the appointment of a committee of equity
security holders if necessary to assure their “adequate representation.” Adequate representation is
determined on a case-by-case basis.1 Courts consider these factors: (1) the number of
shareholders; (2) the complexity of the case; (3) the solvency of the debtor; (4) whether the cost
to the estate outweighs the adequate representation interest of shareholders; and (5) whether the
interests of shareholders are already represented. 2 No one factor is dispositive and the relative
weight afforded to each depends on the circumstances.3 Since the first two factors inevitably are
favourable in cases where appointment of a committee is sought, the discussion below is limited
to the remaining factors.
An EC would require that all attorney firms that are currently participating in this case, share info with the new firm that is brought in to represent us, The last thing they want is one more hand in the pot.
Now re-read this part.
Solvency of debtor
In considering the solvency issue, the most frequently applied standard is whether the debtors are
“hopelessly insolvent.”4 It is not a question of whether recovery to the debtors' shareholders is
guaranteed.5 Economic indicators must demonstrate that there is value for shareholders and
those shareholders are not necessarily “out of the money”.6 Where the debtor is even marginally
solvent, shareholders have a meaningful interest in the outcome of the case, and courts find they
should have the benefit of an equity committee representing their interests, regardless of the
added cost.7
Until Weil and Co. have a legitimate accountability of this company's Assets vs Liabilities, they have to tell the Judge what they feel is correct and present. he mentioned that there was 7.5Bil to divide up (currently) this does not include the SJ..
So where did we get 7.5 Bil, could it be a hint at the amount coming back from the tax refunds? I don't remember seeing anything about that in the latest MOR. Linda you are good at the Nunmbers and MOR's. what is your take on where this money is coming from. Currently your honor there is 7.5 Bil to divide up, we do not think that will stretch past the preferreds.
CURRENTLY !!!
Insensitive: Are you kidding me? Read between the lines my friends and listen to the hearing if you have not. Listen to what Rosen said, that is a hint!
read this ....
http://www.bayardfirm.com/pdfs/equity-committees-representat…
Go about half way down the page and then re-read this paragraph.
“Ad hoc” or informal committees often will already have been formed before such a request, so
that equity's concerns may have already been brought to the attention of management or debtor's
counsel (with less than satisfactory results). These committees consist of shareholders who are
knowledgeable of the company's condition and typically disenchanted with the attention given to
their interests or management's general intentions regarding equity. These informal committees
invariably are represented by counsel. In fact, given the volume of recent equity committee
solicitations, there are a growing number of law firms and financial advisory firms who actively
compete to represent such committees. Like professionals for official creditors' committees,
673694-1
professionals for official equity committees are compensated from assets of the bankruptcy estate.
Translation: Rosen of Weil does not want to spend the money for the Attorney Firm that will be representing the EC. Also he does not need another firm to have to share the info with or have sitting at the table. he thinks or maybe is under the impression he can get it done satisfactorily, but WE need REPRESENTATION no matter what the cost to the estate.
Now re-read this part.
Under the Code, upon request the Court may order the appointment of a committee of equity
security holders if necessary to assure their “adequate representation.” Adequate representation is
determined on a case-by-case basis.1 Courts consider these factors: (1) the number of
shareholders; (2) the complexity of the case; (3) the solvency of the debtor; (4) whether the cost
to the estate outweighs the adequate representation interest of shareholders; and (5) whether the
interests of shareholders are already represented. 2 No one factor is dispositive and the relative
weight afforded to each depends on the circumstances.3 Since the first two factors inevitably are
favourable in cases where appointment of a committee is sought, the discussion below is limited
to the remaining factors.
An EC would require that all attorney firms that are currently participating in this case, share info with the new firm that is brought in to represent us, The last thing they want is one more hand in the pot.
Now re-read this part.
Solvency of debtor
In considering the solvency issue, the most frequently applied standard is whether the debtors are
“hopelessly insolvent.”4 It is not a question of whether recovery to the debtors' shareholders is
guaranteed.5 Economic indicators must demonstrate that there is value for shareholders and
those shareholders are not necessarily “out of the money”.6 Where the debtor is even marginally
solvent, shareholders have a meaningful interest in the outcome of the case, and courts find they
should have the benefit of an equity committee representing their interests, regardless of the
added cost.7
Until Weil and Co. have a legitimate accountability of this company's Assets vs Liabilities, they have to tell the Judge what they feel is correct and present. he mentioned that there was 7.5Bil to divide up (currently) this does not include the SJ..
So where did we get 7.5 Bil, could it be a hint at the amount coming back from the tax refunds? I don't remember seeing anything about that in the latest MOR. Linda you are good at the Nunmbers and MOR's. what is your take on where this money is coming from. Currently your honor there is 7.5 Bil to divide up, we do not think that will stretch past the preferreds.
CURRENTLY !!!
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 38.600.693 von dig101 am 18.12.09 22:30:41Hey da bist Du ja. Ganzen tag unterwegs gewesen.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 38.600.654 von Videtorial am 18.12.09 22:24:56Genau das meine ich! Das Spiel wir weiter gehen. Wenn ich mir das Volumen so anschaue, wir versucht paar verkäufe zu streuen um dem Anstieg zu bremsen. Aber irgend wann ist da auch die Luft raus.
Nur mal so meine Meinung....Bin gespannt auf nächste Woche!
Nur mal so meine Meinung....Bin gespannt auf nächste Woche!
hi
die woche war doch gut wir haben seit langen wieder mal einen positiven wochenschluss
gute nacht
die woche war doch gut wir haben seit langen wieder mal einen positiven wochenschluss
gute nacht
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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 38.600.666 von Daytrading18 am 18.12.09 22:26:45die gleichen die heut morgen als nächsten Widerstand 0,2$ angekündigt haben?
Hör doch auf mit diesem Bullshit. Chart kannst Du vergessen hier
Hör doch auf mit diesem Bullshit. Chart kannst Du vergessen hier
@ born u body
was war/ist eigentlich mit den chinesen - ihr habt doch heute in der richting was eingestellt??
gruss
redsea
was war/ist eigentlich mit den chinesen - ihr habt doch heute in der richting was eingestellt??
gruss
redsea
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 38.600.654 von Videtorial am 18.12.09 22:24:56Laut ein paar Charttechn. sollte dies der Boden sein. 
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 38.600.612 von hallo000de am 18.12.09 22:17:11Ob sich der Kreis schon schließt, weiß ich nicht.
Aber wenn man es nicht schafft, den Chart nach unten zu brechen,
so gibt es nur eine Variante: den Ausbruch nach oben.
Meintest Du das ?
Gruß, Videtorial
Aber wenn man es nicht schafft, den Chart nach unten zu brechen,
so gibt es nur eine Variante: den Ausbruch nach oben.
Meintest Du das ?
Gruß, Videtorial
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