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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 71.587.035 von faultcode am 16.05.22 20:31:48
Update: 24 ernsthafte Risiko-Faktoren für Tesla:
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(27) mögliche sexuelle Belästigung von Mitarbeiterinnen durch Elon Musk (I)
(I) adminstrative Risiko-Faktoren: 9 Stk.
ich muss zugeben: an so einen Punkt hatte ich nicht gedacht, als ich diese Liste mal anfing:
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527525498460508160
"Elongate"
ich muss meine Liste schon wieder erweitern:Update: 24 ernsthafte Risiko-Faktoren für Tesla:
...
(27) mögliche sexuelle Belästigung von Mitarbeiterinnen durch Elon Musk (I)
(I) adminstrative Risiko-Faktoren: 9 Stk.
ich muss zugeben: an so einen Punkt hatte ich nicht gedacht, als ich diese Liste mal anfing:
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527525498460508160
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 71.617.233 von faultcode am 20.05.22 07:36:36Original (länger):
19.5.
A SpaceX flight attendant said Elon Musk exposed himself and propositioned her for sex, documents show. The company paid $250,000 for her silence.
https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-paid-250000-to-a-flig…
...
According to the declaration, the attendant confided to the friend that after taking the flight attendant job, she was encouraged to get licensed as a masseuse so that she could give Musk massages. It was during one such massage in a private cabin on Musk's Gulfstream G650ER, she told the friend, that Musk propositioned her.
...
SpaceX places a special emphasis on massages, going so far as to employ in-house massage therapists as a perk for executives. According to the friend, the flight attendant was encouraged by her superiors to purchase her own professional massage training for her sessions with Musk.
"They encouraged her to get licensed as a masseuse, but on her own time, on her own dime," the friend said. "They implied that she would get to fly more often if she were to do this because she'd be able to give Elon proper massages. I thought that was kind of strange because — you weren't hired to be a masseuse. You were hired to be a flight attendant. And if Elon likes massages, then he should be paying for you to go to masseuse school. But she was just so happy and eager to have the job and be able to travel."
...
In 2018, after becoming convinced that her refusal to accept Musk's proposal had diminished her opportunities at SpaceX, the attendant hired a California employment lawyer and sent a complaint to the company's human resources department detailing the episode. Around that time, the attorney's firm contacted the friend and asked her to prepare the declaration corroborating the claims.
The attendant's complaint was resolved quickly after a session with a mediator that Musk personally attended. The matter never reached a court of law or an arbitration proceeding. In November 2018, Musk, SpaceX and the flight attendant entered into a severance agreement granting the attendant a $250,000 payment in exchange for a promise not to sue over the claims.
The agreement also included restrictive non-disclosure and non-disparagement clauses that bar the attendant from ever discussing the severance payment or disclosing any information of any kind about Musk and his businesses, including SpaceX and Tesla.
...
The friend told Insider that she decided to come forward without consulting the flight attendant because, as a survivor of sexual assault, she felt an obligation to share what she has been told about Musk. Unlike the flight attendant, her friend is not bound by any non-disclosure agreement.
...
"I absolutely felt a responsibility to come forward with it, especially now," she said. "He is the richest man in the world. Someone with that level of power causing that kind of harm and then throwing some money at the situation, that's not accountability. There are predators all over the world. But when someone is particularly wealthy and powerful, they literally have systems that are like a machine working for them, to set them up to be able to do whatever they want."
Remaining silent, the friend said, would make her complicit. "When you choose to remain silent, yeah, you do become a part of that system," she said. "You do become a part of that machine that allows someone like Elon Musk to continue to do the horrible things that he's done."
Non-disclosure agreements are crucial components of that machine. The friend said that before she reached out to Insider, she called the attorney who represented the victim. The attorney told her that, although she was free to speak to the press, sharing any documents from the case — including her own declaration — could put the flight attendant at risk.
"Her primary concern was clearly her client," the friend said. She recalled the attorney saying that confidentiality provisions are "bullshit" and that if any other women have been victimized by Musk, they ought to come forward. But when it came to her client, the attorney urged the friend not to share the declaration. "That would be a massive problem," she told the friend.
...
Tag: free speech
19.5.
A SpaceX flight attendant said Elon Musk exposed himself and propositioned her for sex, documents show. The company paid $250,000 for her silence.
https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-paid-250000-to-a-flig…
...
According to the declaration, the attendant confided to the friend that after taking the flight attendant job, she was encouraged to get licensed as a masseuse so that she could give Musk massages. It was during one such massage in a private cabin on Musk's Gulfstream G650ER, she told the friend, that Musk propositioned her.
...
SpaceX places a special emphasis on massages, going so far as to employ in-house massage therapists as a perk for executives. According to the friend, the flight attendant was encouraged by her superiors to purchase her own professional massage training for her sessions with Musk.
"They encouraged her to get licensed as a masseuse, but on her own time, on her own dime," the friend said. "They implied that she would get to fly more often if she were to do this because she'd be able to give Elon proper massages. I thought that was kind of strange because — you weren't hired to be a masseuse. You were hired to be a flight attendant. And if Elon likes massages, then he should be paying for you to go to masseuse school. But she was just so happy and eager to have the job and be able to travel."
...
In 2018, after becoming convinced that her refusal to accept Musk's proposal had diminished her opportunities at SpaceX, the attendant hired a California employment lawyer and sent a complaint to the company's human resources department detailing the episode. Around that time, the attorney's firm contacted the friend and asked her to prepare the declaration corroborating the claims.
The attendant's complaint was resolved quickly after a session with a mediator that Musk personally attended. The matter never reached a court of law or an arbitration proceeding. In November 2018, Musk, SpaceX and the flight attendant entered into a severance agreement granting the attendant a $250,000 payment in exchange for a promise not to sue over the claims.
The agreement also included restrictive non-disclosure and non-disparagement clauses that bar the attendant from ever discussing the severance payment or disclosing any information of any kind about Musk and his businesses, including SpaceX and Tesla.
...
The friend told Insider that she decided to come forward without consulting the flight attendant because, as a survivor of sexual assault, she felt an obligation to share what she has been told about Musk. Unlike the flight attendant, her friend is not bound by any non-disclosure agreement.
...
"I absolutely felt a responsibility to come forward with it, especially now," she said. "He is the richest man in the world. Someone with that level of power causing that kind of harm and then throwing some money at the situation, that's not accountability. There are predators all over the world. But when someone is particularly wealthy and powerful, they literally have systems that are like a machine working for them, to set them up to be able to do whatever they want."
Remaining silent, the friend said, would make her complicit. "When you choose to remain silent, yeah, you do become a part of that system," she said. "You do become a part of that machine that allows someone like Elon Musk to continue to do the horrible things that he's done."
Non-disclosure agreements are crucial components of that machine. The friend said that before she reached out to Insider, she called the attorney who represented the victim. The attorney told her that, although she was free to speak to the press, sharing any documents from the case — including her own declaration — could put the flight attendant at risk.
"Her primary concern was clearly her client," the friend said. She recalled the attorney saying that confidentiality provisions are "bullshit" and that if any other women have been victimized by Musk, they ought to come forward. But when it came to her client, the attorney urged the friend not to share the declaration. "That would be a massive problem," she told the friend.
...
Tag: free speech
Zitat von faultcode: ...
Last Updated: May 19, 2022 at 11:42 p.m. ET
SpaceX paid $250,000 to settle sexual misconduct claim against Elon Musk: report
Business Insider reports billionaire exposed himself to flight attendant and propositioned her
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/spacex-paid-250-000-to-set…
...
SpaceX paid a flight attendant $250,000 in 2018 to settle a sexual misconduct claim against Elon Musk, its founder and chief executive, according to a report Thursday by Business Insider.
...
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 71.583.876 von faultcode am 16.05.22 13:43:5213.5.
er scheint nun irgendwie zurückzurudern; eigentlich bis auf USD500 hinunter:
https://twitter.com/carlquintanilla/status/15273288431863316…
Zitat von faultcode: ...aber Adam Jonas/Morgan Stanley bleibt bei seinen 1.300 Dollar für $TSLA
--> https://www.deraktionaer.de/artikel/mobilitaet-oel-energie/t…
er scheint nun irgendwie zurückzurudern; eigentlich bis auf USD500 hinunter:
https://twitter.com/carlquintanilla/status/15273288431863316…
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 71.608.872 von Der Tscheche am 19.05.22 08:51:55Typisch Professor: $TSLAQ vergessen 
#TSLA 🤔 => #Tesla
nebenbei: Robo-Accounts müssen nicht schlecht sein; im Tesla-Umfeld gibt es einige transparente. Das Problem sind die Fake-Accounts (siehe oben), oft auch nur zum Liken (*), deren Auswertung mitunter schwierig bis unmöglich außerhalb von Twitter ist:
https://twitter.com/RoboTaxiBot/status/1527313826869174274
(*) clickfarm in China:
https://hongkongfp.com/2019/08/08/click-farms-shadowy-intern…
https://twitter.com/RichPsychology/status/107906279626287514…
#TSLA 🤔 => #Tesla
nebenbei: Robo-Accounts müssen nicht schlecht sein; im Tesla-Umfeld gibt es einige transparente. Das Problem sind die Fake-Accounts (siehe oben), oft auch nur zum Liken (*), deren Auswertung mitunter schwierig bis unmöglich außerhalb von Twitter ist:
https://twitter.com/RoboTaxiBot/status/1527313826869174274
(*) clickfarm in China:
https://hongkongfp.com/2019/08/08/click-farms-shadowy-intern…
https://twitter.com/RichPsychology/status/107906279626287514…
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"Mitte Juni will der Professor sein Paper zur "Corporate Computational Propaganda" auf einem Elektroautokongress in Oslo vorstellen; dem manager magazin liegt es bereits vor. Gemeinsam mit seinem Kollegen Mohsen A. Chowdhury hat Kirsch dafür die weit mehr als vier Millionen Tweets mit den Schlagworten #TSLA und $TSLA ausgewertet, die in dem Zeitraum zwischen Teslas Börsengang im Jahr 2010 und Ende 2020 veröffentlicht worden sind. Von den Top-Tweets unter dem Hashtag #TSLA stammt fast ein Viertel von nichtmenschlichen Robo-Accounts. "
Aus einem Manager Magazin-Bericht von heute Morgen
Vermutlich mit ein Grund für Musks "Aufdeckung", dass bei Twitter GANZ ALLGEMEIN sicher über 20% Robo-Accounts unterwegs sind...
Sorry, falls das hier schon thematisiert worden sein sollte.
Aus einem Manager Magazin-Bericht von heute Morgen
Vermutlich mit ein Grund für Musks "Aufdeckung", dass bei Twitter GANZ ALLGEMEIN sicher über 20% Robo-Accounts unterwegs sind...
Sorry, falls das hier schon thematisiert worden sein sollte.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 71.517.023 von faultcode am 07.05.22 13:51:29
ich bin diese Woche noch über dieses gestolpert:
https://twitter.com/TheBenSchmark/status/1526544605331738624
vordergründig hat das mit der laufenden Episode bei $TSLA und $TWTR nichts zu tun. Bis ich den Namen Morgan Stanley gelesen habe. Und die sind jetzt schon dick engagiert bei Tesla und Twitter:
=> man kann mMn mindestens sagen: Morgan Stanley hat, was Tesla und Twitter angeht, einen Informationsvorsprung gegenüber dem Markt. Die machen das hier alles nicht um Geld zu verlieren:
Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Morgan Stanley and Wells Fargo & Co. dumped multibillion-dollar blocks of stock, in some cases through the weekend, to recover capital they loaned to Archegos, a private investment firm run by speculative trader Bill Hwang.
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/deutsche-bank-dodged-4-billion-a… (*)
Bekanntlich wurde damals ja von Morgan Stanley und Co. mutmaßlich Frontrunning betrieben (ggü. der Credit Suisse z.B.):
Bloomberg has reported that banks led by Credit Suisse sought to broker some kind of standstill agreement with Hwang last week, seeking to untie positions without causing panic. But any agreement was elusive and the trades started to become public on Friday, triggering a selloff. (*)
=> wie man sieht: die geben höchstens noch Goldman Sachs und Wells Fargo, oder wer da noch an großen (und "befreundeten") US-Banken dabei ist, einen "Tipp"
Und wie man sieht: auch wohl am Wochenende, wenn es sein muss
Und an wen verkaufen diese Banken am Wochenende? --> an Shorties z.B., die covern wollen
Und am darauffolgenden Montag guckt (v.a.) Retail schon oft in die Röhre.
=> was ich damit sagen will: ein bischen vorsichtig sein mit Positionsgrößen (und Hebeln) bei $TSLA und $TWTR: da können noch große und sehr erratische Kursbewegungen in beide Richtungen stattfinden
"someone at the bank"
Zitat von faultcode: ...Morgan Stanley owns about 8.8% of Twitter shares
...
ich bin diese Woche noch über dieses gestolpert:
https://twitter.com/TheBenSchmark/status/1526544605331738624
vordergründig hat das mit der laufenden Episode bei $TSLA und $TWTR nichts zu tun. Bis ich den Namen Morgan Stanley gelesen habe. Und die sind jetzt schon dick engagiert bei Tesla und Twitter:
Zitat von faultcode: ...He is speaking to private equity firms, including Apollo Global Management and hedge funds, about raising $2 billion to $4 billion in preferred financing to replace his margin loans against Tesla, and also to replace some of the Morgan Stanley junior financing he has already arranged, a banking source said....
=> man kann mMn mindestens sagen: Morgan Stanley hat, was Tesla und Twitter angeht, einen Informationsvorsprung gegenüber dem Markt. Die machen das hier alles nicht um Geld zu verlieren:
Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Morgan Stanley and Wells Fargo & Co. dumped multibillion-dollar blocks of stock, in some cases through the weekend, to recover capital they loaned to Archegos, a private investment firm run by speculative trader Bill Hwang.
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/deutsche-bank-dodged-4-billion-a… (*)
Bekanntlich wurde damals ja von Morgan Stanley und Co. mutmaßlich Frontrunning betrieben (ggü. der Credit Suisse z.B.):
Bloomberg has reported that banks led by Credit Suisse sought to broker some kind of standstill agreement with Hwang last week, seeking to untie positions without causing panic. But any agreement was elusive and the trades started to become public on Friday, triggering a selloff. (*)
=> wie man sieht: die geben höchstens noch Goldman Sachs und Wells Fargo, oder wer da noch an großen (und "befreundeten") US-Banken dabei ist, einen "Tipp"
Und wie man sieht: auch wohl am Wochenende, wenn es sein muss
Und an wen verkaufen diese Banken am Wochenende? --> an Shorties z.B., die covern wollen
Und am darauffolgenden Montag guckt (v.a.) Retail schon oft in die Röhre.
=> was ich damit sagen will: ein bischen vorsichtig sein mit Positionsgrößen (und Hebeln) bei $TSLA und $TWTR: da können noch große und sehr erratische Kursbewegungen in beide Richtungen stattfinden
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 71.607.663 von faultcode am 18.05.22 23:55:01<zu früh auf's Knöpfchen gedrückt...>
was ich noch sagen wollte: selbst von 2021Q1 bis zum 2022Q1 nahm die Anzahl der ausstehenden Aktien zu, obwohl die Kurve oben zuletzt recht flach ausschaut:
2021Q4: As of January 31, 2022, there were 1,033,507,611 shares of the registrant’s common stock outstanding.
2022Q1: As of April 19, 2022, there were 1,036,009,925 shares of the registrant’s common stock outstanding.
=> +0.24% -- nicht besonders viel, aber eben immer noch Wachstum; annualisiert wären das 0.97%
was ich noch sagen wollte: selbst von 2021Q1 bis zum 2022Q1 nahm die Anzahl der ausstehenden Aktien zu, obwohl die Kurve oben zuletzt recht flach ausschaut:
2021Q4: As of January 31, 2022, there were 1,033,507,611 shares of the registrant’s common stock outstanding.
2022Q1: As of April 19, 2022, there were 1,036,009,925 shares of the registrant’s common stock outstanding.
=> +0.24% -- nicht besonders viel, aber eben immer noch Wachstum; annualisiert wären das 0.97%
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 71.607.540 von faultcode am 18.05.22 23:19:59das Tesla-Drama wird mMn an Fahrt noch zunehmen, wenn sich in 2022Q2 und 2022Q3 herumsprechen sollte, daß die ganze bisherige Bewertung auf "Growth" ausgelegt war:
https://twitter.com/scotttmorton/status/1526915872354361346
<korrigierte Version>
Die Frage nach dem Zusammenhang von SBC und FCF bei Tesla hatte ich schon mal:
28.10.2021
=> durch die SBC bei Tesla -- ohne Aktienrückkäufe -- nimmt die Anzahl der ausstehenden Aktien immer weiter zu; so ganz ohne irgendwelche Kapitalerhöhungen (*)
=> Tesla steht mittlerweile, oder schon wieder, unter geradezu mörderischem Druck immer mehr Autos in derselben Zeiteinheit zu verkaufen
(*)
https://stockrow.com/TSLA/snapshots/summary
https://twitter.com/scotttmorton/status/1526915872354361346
<korrigierte Version>
Die Frage nach dem Zusammenhang von SBC und FCF bei Tesla hatte ich schon mal:
28.10.2021
Zitat von faultcode: ...aber nun zur wirklich interesanten Frage:
• warum kauft Tesla mit ihrem zuletzt im Schnitt wachsenden FCF keine eigenen Aktien zurück?
Um, wie andere Unternehmen, der fortlaufenden Verwässerung durch die Stock based compensation, entgegenzuwirken?
=> durch die SBC bei Tesla -- ohne Aktienrückkäufe -- nimmt die Anzahl der ausstehenden Aktien immer weiter zu; so ganz ohne irgendwelche Kapitalerhöhungen (*)
=> Tesla steht mittlerweile, oder schon wieder, unter geradezu mörderischem Druck immer mehr Autos in derselben Zeiteinheit zu verkaufen
(*)
https://stockrow.com/TSLA/snapshots/summary
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 71.603.241 von faultcode am 18.05.22 15:28:22
nicht nur bei ESG heißt es Abschied zu nehmen, sondern wahrscheinlich auch bei Momentum (*):
https://twitter.com/charles_norton1/status/15270160382940323…
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https://www.ishares.com/us/products/251614/ishares-msci-usa-…
(*)
$RLV = Russell 1000 Value Index
Zitat von faultcode: $TSLA ist nun draußen beim SP500 ESG-Index: ...
nicht nur bei ESG heißt es Abschied zu nehmen, sondern wahrscheinlich auch bei Momentum (*):
https://twitter.com/charles_norton1/status/15270160382940323…
-->
https://www.ishares.com/us/products/251614/ishares-msci-usa-…
(*)
$RLV = Russell 1000 Value Index
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