Royal Bank of Scotland (Seite 1098)

[DarksideInvestor]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.572.222 von DarksideInvestor am 14.09.07 13:22:26

so .. wieder da...

hmm über 470.000 shares gehandelt heute

war das jetzt wohl schon der grosse ausverkauf oder kommt da noch mehr ???

dsi

[DarksideInvestor]

so habe schonmal bei 7,50 meine order plaziert ... bitte bedienen und dann endlich wieder hoch...

so jetzt bin ich erstmal zum forellenangeln, brauche mal nen bisschen ruhe.

dsi

[1erhart]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.545.818 von ralf-norbert am 12.09.07 14:05:02

Das es vielleicht noch weiter nach unten geht kann schon sein. Aber ich bin der Meinung dass man bei diesem Kurs nicht mehr viel falsch machen kann. Noch dazu war es das 1.Drittel der ungefähren Gesamtposition die ich anstrebe und das heisst bei 7,70 und bei 7,50 würde ich durchaus nochmal nachlegen.

[ralf-norbert]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.545.282 von 1erhart am 12.09.07 13:29:41

Boah ey,

tausend Stück zum Tagestiefstkurs. Nicht schlecht gemacht. Ich fürchte nur leider, dass das Leid noch kein Ende hat für die Bankenwerte. Von daher scheinen mir die 7,50 Euro, die hier schon mal diskutiert wurden, ein wahrscheinlicher Tiefpunkt zu sein.

Aber wer trifft schon genau den Tiefpunkt?

Viel Glück
Alles was man für Geld kaufen kann, ist billig!

Ralf-Norbert

[1erhart]

So bin jetzt auch mal wieder hier dabei.
Erstposition gerade gekauft zu 7,92.
Viel kann man da nicht mehr verkehrt machen.

[k559]

RBS launch website to win over ABN staff
GARETH EDWARDS
([e-mail])
THE ROYAL Bank of Scotland consortium bidding to buy Dutch bank ABN Amro has launched a website aimed at winning the hearts and minds of its employees.

The consortium, which also includes Santander of Spain and Belgian-Dutch insurer and bank Fortis, is vying to outbid Barclay's in what is being billed as the world's biggest ever banking take-over battle.

And the RBS have now targeted the Amsterdam-based bank's 105,000 employees with the website, www.consortiumbid.com, which lets them know what the consortium's offer would mean for them.

On the site it is revealed that Fortis plan to move its Dutch headquarters from Utrecht to Amsterdam if the bid is successful.

There are also extracts from Dutch media interviews with Sir Fred Goodwin, chief executive of the Royal Bank of Scotland, where he insists that while there would be job losses, many of the staff would be kept on.

"ABN Amro is full of good people," he said. "It is a very good bank and it has a lot of very good people and we certainly want to employ, and need to employ, good people who are there.

"We have highlighted that there would be some job losses, but fewer job losses overall than under the Barclays' proposal.

"There will be some, and that's regrettable, but we can't keep the customers without the people, we absolutely need the people, we are not buying the company for the buildings."

The website launch followed the startling comments of Barclays president Bob Diamond, who conceded that, "on price", their bid for ABN Amro will probably be beaten by the consortium bid.

Mr Diamond, head of Barclays' investment banking business, made the comments after a tumble in Barclays share price meant its offer for the Dutch bank, composed mainly of shares, was worth much less than the consortium bid, which has remained solid despite the recent turmoil in the financial market, as the bulk of it is in cash.

Recent estimates put the Royal consortium bid at around £48 billion, with the Barclays bid worth around £40bn, and at a conference in New York Mr Diamond said: "The bad news is if the consortium still wants to pay that price, if it is comfortable with the risks on the balance sheet during the turmoil, if they can raise the money in the market and if the regulators are going to allow . . . this kind of complex transaction, then that price will probably beat ours."

Despite this, Mr Diamond suggested the battle may not be as clear-cut as that, raising questions about the consortium's ability to raise the necessary funds, and suggesting they could be hit by regulatory problems.

Barclays already has regulatory approval from the European commission and the Dutch central bank and finance ministry for its takeover bid. The Royal Bank-led consortium is still waiting on this approval ahead of the closing date for offers next month.

[k559]

RBS in talks to open first Korea branch
ROYAL Bank of Scotland is in talks with regulators in South Korea about opening its first branch in the country.

An official of the Financial Supervisory Service said: "We are working to help RBS apply for operations."

It is thought RBS expects to start business in the country early next year, although the bank yesterday refused to comment.

The branch is expected to focus on corporate banking and foreign exchange trade.

In June, RBS appointed SY Choi as head of global banking and markets in South Korea. At the time, the bank said it was committed to pursuing a "local but distinctive franchise targeting selected investors and corporate clients."

http://business.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1454962007

[DarksideInvestor]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.511.089 von nof_k am 10.09.07 21:16:47

wo wir wieder bei meiner nächsten kaufposi von 7,50 wären...

alles wird gut

dsi

[nof_k]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.510.931 von chinadotcom am 10.09.07 21:09:54

So ist die Börse - der eine verkauft der andere kauft.

Ich habe heute 30% meiner Positionen bei 7,91 € verkauft. Der Doppelboden bei 7,94 € hat nämlich nicht gehalten. Charttechnisch ergibt sich damit leider weiteres Rückschlagpotential.

[chinadotcom]

Seit heute bin ich langfristig mit einer ersten Position bei der RBS dabei.

Hier ein Artikel zum Einstieg:

Barclays admits RBS will 'probably' win ABN bid
Bob Diamond, the Barclays president, comes close to conceding defeat in the race for control of the Dutch bankSiobhan Kennedy
Bob Diamond, the president of Barclays Bank, conceded today that a rival consortium's offer for ABN Amro "will probably beat ours" if the RBS group sticks with the present terms of its €70 billion (£48 billion) bid.

Barclays is competing with RBS and its two partners to win control of the Dutch bank.

However, the value of Barclays’ predominantly share-based offer has fallen below the rival bid in recent weeks as the group's share price has lost value amid turbulent credit markets.

Speaking at a bank conference in New York, Mr Diamond, who is also head of Barclays’ investment bank, said that there was also risk associated with the RBS offer, given the market conditions.

Related Links
Barclays forced into emergency £1.6bn loan
There’s no black hole at Barclays, insists Diamond
Shares slide could scupper Barclays' ABN Amro bid
He said: "The bad news is if the consortium still wants to pay that price, if it’s comfortable with the risks on the balance sheet during the turmoil, if they can raise that money in the market and if the regulators are going to allow ... this kind of complex transaction, then that price will probably beat ours."

He added: "But there are a lot of ifs between now and then. We have to take into context that the market environment has changed.

"Do we still want ABN? Yes,” he told the Lehman Brothers conference.

Speculation has begun to circulate over whether RBS, whose deal was agreed at the height of the M&A boom, may try to lower its €38-a-share bid, which is trading at a significant premium to the ABN share price.

Sources have said that it is possible for the consortium, which also includes the Belgian-Dutch Fortis and Santander, of Spain, to invoke a so-called material adverse change clause (MAC) to lower its price, although they said that so far there had been no discussions to do so.

The sources said that the RBS group will make a decision closer to October 5, the date on which its offer is due to expire.

Barclays' offer is due to close on October 4.

Banks such as Barclays, RBS and the big US bulge bracket investment banks have come under increasing pressure in recent weeks to disclose their exposure to US sub-prime mortgages and leveraged loans linked to private equity deals.

Mr Diamond said that Barclays Capital, the arm of Barclays behind several investment vehicles hit hard by the credit crunch, still managed to post a profit last month.

"Barclays Capital traded profitably in August 2007, after full allocation of costs and the mark to market of all positions. This was on the back of a profitable July. Year to date profits are well ahead of 2006," he said, referring to the bank's decision to value the assets sitting on its balance sheet at current reduced market prices.

Barclays Capital, the investment banking arm of Barclays, has been under scrutiny recently after the abrupt resignation of Edward Cahill, the head of its European collateralised debt obligations (CDOs) unit, in August.

Mr Cahill structured several so-called SIV-lite investment vehicles that were unable to meet their short-term financing commitments after spooked investors in the commercial paper markets refused to roll over.

Several reports said BarCap could lose as much as several hundred million pounds as a result of the SIVs running into trouble, although BarCap has said that its actual losses should amount to no more than £75 million.

The bank has since helped to restructure two of the SIV-lite vehicles.

Barclays has also been in the spotlight after it emerged that the bank had borrowed £1.6 billion of emergency funds from the Bank of England's credit facility, which charges punitive rates of interest of 6.75 per cent.

Barclays later blamed its move on technical glitches with the overnight funds clearance system and said that it had no problems raising funds.

China