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A very interesting development has been spotted in a gold-copper mine I talked about before here. I noted that it's worth investing in the Philiippines as the country has large gold and copper resources, ranked in the top 5 in the world. At the time of that article, St. Augustine Gold & Copper Ltd. (RTLGF.PK) was at CAD 0.3/share. Just recently, the share price of the company jumped up to CAD 0.4/share on news that Australia based CGA Mining Ltd. (CGAFF.PK) is going to be bought out by B2Gold Corp. (BGLPF.PK) for $1.1 billion. Each shareholder of CGA will get 0.74 of a B2Gold Corp share. The premium on the average share price of CGA Mining Ltd. is 31%.
This buyout is significant due to the fact that CGA Mining Ltd. owns 20.75% of St. Augustine Gold & Copper Ltd. The reason is that St. Augustine Gold & Copper Ltd. (SAU) is now 20.75% owned by B2Gold Corp. Previously, CGA had about $20 million of cashflow per quarter based on the annual report of 2011, after the buyout B2Gold Corp. will have $28 million in cashflow per quarter based on its latest earnings report added to the $20 million of cashflow per quarter from CGA, totaling $50 million in cashflow. With this increased cashflow, B2Gold Corp. could invest a higher amount of its cash reserves in SAU, which is certainly beneficial to SAU shareholders. The other big part (50%) of SAU is owned mainly by investor groups led by Conrado T. Calalang.
SAU is developing the King-King Copper - Gold project in the Philippines (Measured and Indicated resources: 10.3 million ounce gold and 5.4 billion ounce copper). It is estimated that SAU will have a bankable feasibility study and a mining permit end of 2012. The mining permit (Declaration of Mine Project Feasibility (DMPF) application) was successfully submitted by Nadecor to the Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR) and Mines and Geosciences Bureau in May 2012. Construction should start in 2013 and could benefit tremendously from the merger between CGA and B2Gold Corp. As I stated before, the best moment to buy a development stage company is during start of construction, which is right at this moment. If the bankable feasibility study and mining permit are delivered I expect a strong increase in the share price of SAU. To date, management already invested $70 million in the project. It is expected that CAPEX will be around $600 million with a NPV of $1 billion. If the share price of SAU continues to strengthen, together with possible equity placements by B2Gold Corp. and other institutions, we could look at a 50/50 debt equity financing soon. SAU had $16 million cash on hand in April 2012, which will probably be at $10 million at this moment in time, so an additional private placement/debt financing will occur soon.
Previously, on 10 June 2012, Nadecor threatened to cancel its deal with SAU to develop the King-King property, which was signed on 27 April 2010. But this threat was quickly rendered obsolete by the Court of Appeal and will allow the project to continue on schedule. It will take a long time before production for such large properties (probably production late 2015), but it is worth speculating on at this early stage of development.
There are several risks involved while investing in SAU which include political risk, permitting risk, funding risk. On the political risk front I should point out that the Philippines government has issued an executive order in July 2012 to increase royalties on mining companies, while denying new mining permits. This takes me to the permitting risk. As we are awaiting mine permitting the coming months, a decline in the permitting process could have negative consequences on the share price. Lastly, if insufficient funding is received within a year, the company will be unable to maintain solvency
A very interesting development has been spotted in a gold-copper mine I talked about before here. I noted that it's worth investing in the Philiippines as the country has large gold and copper resources, ranked in the top 5 in the world. At the time of that article, St. Augustine Gold & Copper Ltd. (RTLGF.PK) was at CAD 0.3/share. Just recently, the share price of the company jumped up to CAD 0.4/share on news that Australia based CGA Mining Ltd. (CGAFF.PK) is going to be bought out by B2Gold Corp. (BGLPF.PK) for $1.1 billion. Each shareholder of CGA will get 0.74 of a B2Gold Corp share. The premium on the average share price of CGA Mining Ltd. is 31%.
This buyout is significant due to the fact that CGA Mining Ltd. owns 20.75% of St. Augustine Gold & Copper Ltd. The reason is that St. Augustine Gold & Copper Ltd. (SAU) is now 20.75% owned by B2Gold Corp. Previously, CGA had about $20 million of cashflow per quarter based on the annual report of 2011, after the buyout B2Gold Corp. will have $28 million in cashflow per quarter based on its latest earnings report added to the $20 million of cashflow per quarter from CGA, totaling $50 million in cashflow. With this increased cashflow, B2Gold Corp. could invest a higher amount of its cash reserves in SAU, which is certainly beneficial to SAU shareholders. The other big part (50%) of SAU is owned mainly by investor groups led by Conrado T. Calalang.
SAU is developing the King-King Copper - Gold project in the Philippines (Measured and Indicated resources: 10.3 million ounce gold and 5.4 billion ounce copper). It is estimated that SAU will have a bankable feasibility study and a mining permit end of 2012. The mining permit (Declaration of Mine Project Feasibility (DMPF) application) was successfully submitted by Nadecor to the Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR) and Mines and Geosciences Bureau in May 2012. Construction should start in 2013 and could benefit tremendously from the merger between CGA and B2Gold Corp. As I stated before, the best moment to buy a development stage company is during start of construction, which is right at this moment. If the bankable feasibility study and mining permit are delivered I expect a strong increase in the share price of SAU. To date, management already invested $70 million in the project. It is expected that CAPEX will be around $600 million with a NPV of $1 billion. If the share price of SAU continues to strengthen, together with possible equity placements by B2Gold Corp. and other institutions, we could look at a 50/50 debt equity financing soon. SAU had $16 million cash on hand in April 2012, which will probably be at $10 million at this moment in time, so an additional private placement/debt financing will occur soon.
Previously, on 10 June 2012, Nadecor threatened to cancel its deal with SAU to develop the King-King property, which was signed on 27 April 2010. But this threat was quickly rendered obsolete by the Court of Appeal and will allow the project to continue on schedule. It will take a long time before production for such large properties (probably production late 2015), but it is worth speculating on at this early stage of development.
There are several risks involved while investing in SAU which include political risk, permitting risk, funding risk. On the political risk front I should point out that the Philippines government has issued an executive order in July 2012 to increase royalties on mining companies, while denying new mining permits. This takes me to the permitting risk. As we are awaiting mine permitting the coming months, a decline in the permitting process could have negative consequences on the share price. Lastly, if insufficient funding is received within a year, the company will be unable to maintain solvency
http://business.financialpost.com/2012/09/21/auguries-everyt…
At Seeking Alpha September 19, Albert Sung notes that shares of St Augustine Gold and Copper (T.SAU) jumped from $0.30 to $0.40 (currently $0.36) “on news that Australia-based CGA Mining Ltd (T.CGA) is going to be bought out by B2Gold Corp (T.BTO) for $1.1 billion.” So B2Gold will now own the 20.75% of St Augustine held previously by CGA, and Sung argues that given the increased cashflow secured by the takeover, B2Gold “could invest a higher amount of its cash reserves in SAU” to the benefit of the latter’s “King-King copper-gold project in the Philippines (measured and indicated resources: 10.3 million ounces gold and 5.4 billion ounces copper).” Sung concludes, “The best moment to buy a development-stage company is during start of construction, which is right at this moment. If the [King-King] bankable feasibility study and mining permit are delivered, I expect a strong increase in the share price.”
At Seeking Alpha September 19, Albert Sung notes that shares of St Augustine Gold and Copper (T.SAU) jumped from $0.30 to $0.40 (currently $0.36) “on news that Australia-based CGA Mining Ltd (T.CGA) is going to be bought out by B2Gold Corp (T.BTO) for $1.1 billion.” So B2Gold will now own the 20.75% of St Augustine held previously by CGA, and Sung argues that given the increased cashflow secured by the takeover, B2Gold “could invest a higher amount of its cash reserves in SAU” to the benefit of the latter’s “King-King copper-gold project in the Philippines (measured and indicated resources: 10.3 million ounces gold and 5.4 billion ounces copper).” Sung concludes, “The best moment to buy a development-stage company is during start of construction, which is right at this moment. If the [King-King] bankable feasibility study and mining permit are delivered, I expect a strong increase in the share price.”
http://world.time.com/2012/09/13/sitting-on-a-gold-mine-will…
In Compostela Valley, in the southern Philippines, a river streaked many shades of brown cuts through farmland and jungle brush to release its muck into the sea. The slurry swells around the coastline, muddying the emerald waters. The source of the blight is an eroded mountainside peppered with blue tarps and tiny shacks, a gold mine nestled among green hills. About 600 families reside on its steep slope, eking out a living by half-grams of gold.
They are, technically, squatters. An American company, St. Augustine Gold & Copper, holds the rights to this mountain and those surrounding it. In their place, the company wants to build massive pits to get at the estimated 962 million tons of precious metals beneath. They also promise to clean the river, plant trees and create jobs. It is a massive undertaking that will dramatically alter the landscape and displace the thousands of workers who have been mining in the area, and fueling the local economy, since the 1980s.
The Philippine government, for its part, is rooting for the American firm, grounded in the belief that large-scale mining can be a golden engine of economic growth. Corporate mining permits have multiplied under President Benigno Aquino III, and new mining rules filed by his administration this week will place new restrictions on where and what small-scale miners can mine. But many Filipinos, especially those from mining communities, are wary of his plans. They want an overhaul of current mining laws. They also want a bigger piece of the profit.
(MORE: 10 Questions for Benigno ‘Noynoy’ Aquino III)
What’s happening in the Philippines is echoing across a region where fast-growing economies are weighing the costs and benefits of extractive industries. Indonesia this year imposed a whopping 20% tax on mineral exports and, in an effort to foster domestic downstream industries, now limits shipments of raw materials. Mining companies are, naturally, critical of the turn, saying it discourages foreign investment. What good are high taxes, after all, if there are no investors to pay them? There’s a flip side to that: What good are investors if there is nothing to mine?
The Philippines, of course, has plenty to mine. Loaded with mineral wealth (worth about $840 billion), it boasts some of the largest untapped gold and copper deposits in the region. Unfortunately, it has not always been the friendliest place to do this kind of business. In Mindanao, which holds more than a third of the country’s gold and houses all its insurgencies, mining operations are susceptible to attacks and extortion from rebel groups. Noncomplying companies have lost millions of dollars’ worth of equipment to vandalism and arson. The government has long offered generous incentives — extremely low taxes, state-funded security, low accountability — to entice foreign investment.
With adequate taxation, big mining could indeed fuel the economic growth the country needs. But environmentalists, local leaders and even the influential Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines have taken a stand against large-scale mineral extraction. Besides obvious environmental concerns, they fear that big mining will displace indigenous tribes and squelch the small-scale industry that has historically contributed the bulk of mining tax revenues. On top of that, they argue, bureaucratic inefficiencies — and likely graft and corruption — prevents what little mining revenue is collected from making its way back to communities. As a result, at least 20 governors have banned some form of large-scale mining in their provinces.
(MORE: Asia to Lead the World’s ‘Rich List’)
The tension unfolding around St. Augustine’s Compostela Valley project underscores what’s at stake nationally. Just 1½ years old, the project has received endorsements from every level of government, a requirement under the 1995 mining law. It stands to be the largest single mining operation in the country’s history (if a mining ban halting the nearby Tampakan Gold-Copper Project holds up). Its executives say it’s setting a new standard of socially responsible mining: hiring from the local population, planning postmine rehabilitation and promoting reforestation. It also spends about $20,000 per month on community-development efforts, according to Clyde Gillespie, the company’s environmental and permitting director, who also pointed out that no law requires them to do so. “What we’re doing now in the community is totally voluntary,” he says. “We think it’s the right thing to do.”
But local leaders from affected barangays, or villages, remain skeptical. “I have 100% doubts,” says Captain Ferdinand Dultra, a leader of Barangay Magnaga, which endorsed the project after the company reportedly donated 500,000 pesos to the construction of a barangay hall. (Officials say the donation did not affect their decision.) While several leaders said that they appreciate the company’s investment in the community, they also point out that mining reform might secure similar community benefits while guaranteeing corporate accountability. “It is very risky for us to support large-scale mining,” says Elvie Baliar, a local leader from Barangay Tambangon who also endorsed the company’s exploration bid. “Six hundred households will be affected. They are in the area since 1987.”
Under the 1995 law, small miners with a historical claim to an area can petition for Minahang Bayan, or “People’s Mining,” permits. The miners from this area began applying for such permits in the 1980s, without success. Then, in 1992, the Mines and Geosciences Bureau (MGB) granted a permit to Nationwide Development Corp., a Philippine logging company that is now partnered with St. Augustine. From that point on, every miner on the mountain has been “illegal.”
(MORE: Dynastic Duel: It’s Arroyo Vs. Aquino in the Philippines’ Latest Political Battle)
Alexander Josol is one of those miners. He used to be a farmer, but now operates his own tunnel, for which he pays royalties to the local indigenous council. The work is more dangerous than farming (a mining-related landslide in January killed 40 people), but the pay is decent. With his experience, he’s the sort of miner that St. Augustine might hire. But Josol says he doesn’t have the mechanical skill to work in an open-pit and would also earn less as an employee than as an independent miner, as the latter pays by the gold gram rather than by the hour. He is working with about two dozen small-scale-mining leaders to oppose St. Augustine’s project and secure the right to remain on the mountain. They want the government to back off of large-scale projects and instead invest in the small-scale industry, helping artisanal miners work more safely and efficiently.
Others just want better regulation of big mines. Under the 1995 mining law, foreign companies typically pay no income tax, no export tax and just 2% excise tax — which is in large part why mining takes up less than 2% of the country’s GDP. That taxes are determined by self-reported production figures presents another obvious problem: underreporting of production. From 2000 to 2008, reported mineral production was between 17% and 45% lower than actual mineral exports, according to a 2010 study commissioned by Action for Economic Reforms. The lack of oversight behind such a discrepancy is a major criticism of the existing mining law. Father Edwin Gariguez, who won the 2012 Goldman Prize, a prestigious international environmental award, for his work on mining, argues that Aquino gives too much weight to the regulatory power of government agencies. He says most agencies don’t have the capacity or the will to enforce the law.
The IMF, which once called for the cheap privatization of the country’s natural resources, now recommends that the Philippines revise its mining tax scheme. Executives at St. Augustine acknowledge that the Philippines’ liberal mining laws and low taxation are part of what attracted the company to the region, but Gillespie argues that stricter regulation and “reasonably” higher taxes wouldn’t necessarily turn them off. The payoff is too huge. “If you can get in here and get established, you’ll be in pretty good shape in the long term,” says St. Augustine chief operating officer Tom Henderson, of the country’s mineral potential.
The President, who has long promised to reform the industry, this week filed the implementing rules for his new executive order on mining. They do not include provisions on revenue sharing, protected habitats or ecotourism zones. Other stakeholders have taken matters into their own hands, introducing three alternative mining bills at the Philippine Congress (House bills 4379, 6342 and 4315), each more radical than the next in their attempt to reform the industry. These alternatives are supported by the Catholic Bishops’ Conference, environmental groups and indigenous rights organizations, who feel that any one of these measures would add teeth to the President’s plan.
Whether Aquino will respond favorably to the popular call, or uphold the decades-long status quo, remains to be seen. But what happens in the Philippines could set a new standard for extractive industries in other parts of the world.
Read more: http://world.time.com/2012/09/13/sitting-on-a-gold-mine-will…#ixzz27BHpzoT7
In Compostela Valley, in the southern Philippines, a river streaked many shades of brown cuts through farmland and jungle brush to release its muck into the sea. The slurry swells around the coastline, muddying the emerald waters. The source of the blight is an eroded mountainside peppered with blue tarps and tiny shacks, a gold mine nestled among green hills. About 600 families reside on its steep slope, eking out a living by half-grams of gold.
They are, technically, squatters. An American company, St. Augustine Gold & Copper, holds the rights to this mountain and those surrounding it. In their place, the company wants to build massive pits to get at the estimated 962 million tons of precious metals beneath. They also promise to clean the river, plant trees and create jobs. It is a massive undertaking that will dramatically alter the landscape and displace the thousands of workers who have been mining in the area, and fueling the local economy, since the 1980s.
The Philippine government, for its part, is rooting for the American firm, grounded in the belief that large-scale mining can be a golden engine of economic growth. Corporate mining permits have multiplied under President Benigno Aquino III, and new mining rules filed by his administration this week will place new restrictions on where and what small-scale miners can mine. But many Filipinos, especially those from mining communities, are wary of his plans. They want an overhaul of current mining laws. They also want a bigger piece of the profit.
(MORE: 10 Questions for Benigno ‘Noynoy’ Aquino III)
What’s happening in the Philippines is echoing across a region where fast-growing economies are weighing the costs and benefits of extractive industries. Indonesia this year imposed a whopping 20% tax on mineral exports and, in an effort to foster domestic downstream industries, now limits shipments of raw materials. Mining companies are, naturally, critical of the turn, saying it discourages foreign investment. What good are high taxes, after all, if there are no investors to pay them? There’s a flip side to that: What good are investors if there is nothing to mine?
The Philippines, of course, has plenty to mine. Loaded with mineral wealth (worth about $840 billion), it boasts some of the largest untapped gold and copper deposits in the region. Unfortunately, it has not always been the friendliest place to do this kind of business. In Mindanao, which holds more than a third of the country’s gold and houses all its insurgencies, mining operations are susceptible to attacks and extortion from rebel groups. Noncomplying companies have lost millions of dollars’ worth of equipment to vandalism and arson. The government has long offered generous incentives — extremely low taxes, state-funded security, low accountability — to entice foreign investment.
With adequate taxation, big mining could indeed fuel the economic growth the country needs. But environmentalists, local leaders and even the influential Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines have taken a stand against large-scale mineral extraction. Besides obvious environmental concerns, they fear that big mining will displace indigenous tribes and squelch the small-scale industry that has historically contributed the bulk of mining tax revenues. On top of that, they argue, bureaucratic inefficiencies — and likely graft and corruption — prevents what little mining revenue is collected from making its way back to communities. As a result, at least 20 governors have banned some form of large-scale mining in their provinces.
(MORE: Asia to Lead the World’s ‘Rich List’)
The tension unfolding around St. Augustine’s Compostela Valley project underscores what’s at stake nationally. Just 1½ years old, the project has received endorsements from every level of government, a requirement under the 1995 mining law. It stands to be the largest single mining operation in the country’s history (if a mining ban halting the nearby Tampakan Gold-Copper Project holds up). Its executives say it’s setting a new standard of socially responsible mining: hiring from the local population, planning postmine rehabilitation and promoting reforestation. It also spends about $20,000 per month on community-development efforts, according to Clyde Gillespie, the company’s environmental and permitting director, who also pointed out that no law requires them to do so. “What we’re doing now in the community is totally voluntary,” he says. “We think it’s the right thing to do.”
But local leaders from affected barangays, or villages, remain skeptical. “I have 100% doubts,” says Captain Ferdinand Dultra, a leader of Barangay Magnaga, which endorsed the project after the company reportedly donated 500,000 pesos to the construction of a barangay hall. (Officials say the donation did not affect their decision.) While several leaders said that they appreciate the company’s investment in the community, they also point out that mining reform might secure similar community benefits while guaranteeing corporate accountability. “It is very risky for us to support large-scale mining,” says Elvie Baliar, a local leader from Barangay Tambangon who also endorsed the company’s exploration bid. “Six hundred households will be affected. They are in the area since 1987.”
Under the 1995 law, small miners with a historical claim to an area can petition for Minahang Bayan, or “People’s Mining,” permits. The miners from this area began applying for such permits in the 1980s, without success. Then, in 1992, the Mines and Geosciences Bureau (MGB) granted a permit to Nationwide Development Corp., a Philippine logging company that is now partnered with St. Augustine. From that point on, every miner on the mountain has been “illegal.”
(MORE: Dynastic Duel: It’s Arroyo Vs. Aquino in the Philippines’ Latest Political Battle)
Alexander Josol is one of those miners. He used to be a farmer, but now operates his own tunnel, for which he pays royalties to the local indigenous council. The work is more dangerous than farming (a mining-related landslide in January killed 40 people), but the pay is decent. With his experience, he’s the sort of miner that St. Augustine might hire. But Josol says he doesn’t have the mechanical skill to work in an open-pit and would also earn less as an employee than as an independent miner, as the latter pays by the gold gram rather than by the hour. He is working with about two dozen small-scale-mining leaders to oppose St. Augustine’s project and secure the right to remain on the mountain. They want the government to back off of large-scale projects and instead invest in the small-scale industry, helping artisanal miners work more safely and efficiently.
Others just want better regulation of big mines. Under the 1995 mining law, foreign companies typically pay no income tax, no export tax and just 2% excise tax — which is in large part why mining takes up less than 2% of the country’s GDP. That taxes are determined by self-reported production figures presents another obvious problem: underreporting of production. From 2000 to 2008, reported mineral production was between 17% and 45% lower than actual mineral exports, according to a 2010 study commissioned by Action for Economic Reforms. The lack of oversight behind such a discrepancy is a major criticism of the existing mining law. Father Edwin Gariguez, who won the 2012 Goldman Prize, a prestigious international environmental award, for his work on mining, argues that Aquino gives too much weight to the regulatory power of government agencies. He says most agencies don’t have the capacity or the will to enforce the law.
The IMF, which once called for the cheap privatization of the country’s natural resources, now recommends that the Philippines revise its mining tax scheme. Executives at St. Augustine acknowledge that the Philippines’ liberal mining laws and low taxation are part of what attracted the company to the region, but Gillespie argues that stricter regulation and “reasonably” higher taxes wouldn’t necessarily turn them off. The payoff is too huge. “If you can get in here and get established, you’ll be in pretty good shape in the long term,” says St. Augustine chief operating officer Tom Henderson, of the country’s mineral potential.
The President, who has long promised to reform the industry, this week filed the implementing rules for his new executive order on mining. They do not include provisions on revenue sharing, protected habitats or ecotourism zones. Other stakeholders have taken matters into their own hands, introducing three alternative mining bills at the Philippine Congress (House bills 4379, 6342 and 4315), each more radical than the next in their attempt to reform the industry. These alternatives are supported by the Catholic Bishops’ Conference, environmental groups and indigenous rights organizations, who feel that any one of these measures would add teeth to the President’s plan.
Whether Aquino will respond favorably to the popular call, or uphold the decades-long status quo, remains to be seen. But what happens in the Philippines could set a new standard for extractive industries in other parts of the world.
Read more: http://world.time.com/2012/09/13/sitting-on-a-gold-mine-will…#ixzz27BHpzoT7
Prima, dann schlage ich vor, dass wir diesen Thread weiterverfolgen und diesen hier beerdigen, da eh kein Wert hinterlegt war.
http://www.wallstreet-online.de/diskussion/1175911-21-30/gol…
Zusammenfassend ging es Anfang der Woche gewaltig nach oben. Drüben bis 0,50$. Es war leider klar, dass es etwas zurück kommen musste.
Viele Erfolg in der nächsten Woche
http://www.wallstreet-online.de/diskussion/1175911-21-30/gol…
Zusammenfassend ging es Anfang der Woche gewaltig nach oben. Drüben bis 0,50$. Es war leider klar, dass es etwas zurück kommen musste.
Viele Erfolg in der nächsten Woche
Wer kann die aktuelle Situation mal ein wenig zusammenfassen...nur englisch ist für einen Thread nicht viel...
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Zitat von Dr.Info: Prima, dann schlage ich vor, dass wir diesen Thread weiterverfolgen und diesen hier beerdigen, da eh kein Wert hinterlegt war.
Auch diesen Thread wird niemand finden, weil mal wieder der Name der Firma in der Überschrift fehlt. Weder unter St. Augustine noch bei Eingabe des Kürzel SAU wird dieser Thread gefunden.
Aber ansonsten find ich den Wert nicht schlecht
zusammenfassend kann man sagen, dass die firma auf einer richtigen geldquelle sitzt
positiv
1.) mine, die an AUG beteiligt ist wurde übernommen und es fließt casch zu für weitere tätigkeiten
2.) hohe rohstoffreserven
negativ
die rechtliche situation in philippinen ist ungewiss.
sollte sich aug rechtlich absichern können, wird der kurs eine rakete. entscheidung in den nächsten wochen.
positiv
1.) mine, die an AUG beteiligt ist wurde übernommen und es fließt casch zu für weitere tätigkeiten
2.) hohe rohstoffreserven
negativ
die rechtliche situation in philippinen ist ungewiss.
sollte sich aug rechtlich absichern können, wird der kurs eine rakete. entscheidung in den nächsten wochen.
Schade, fast wieder komplett zurück gekommen. War wohl auch ein bisschen zu viel des Guten. Sehe das Invest eher mittelfristig. Wenn die Story aufgeht wird es ein Vervielfacher!
hab first majestic bei 20,50 verkauft, kurs ist nach dem verkauf gestiegen.
bei 0,40 habe ich bei st. augustine bereits vk-order eingegeben und dann darauf gepfiffen und nicht verkauft. kurs ist zurückgegangen. egal was man macht macht man falsch. wobei ein kleiner nachkauf ist bei st. augustine vllt. eine überlegung wert. nachdem ich aber in den letzten zwei jahren bei den minenwerten ziemlich unter die räder gekommen bin ich sehr verunsichert.
bei 0,40 habe ich bei st. augustine bereits vk-order eingegeben und dann darauf gepfiffen und nicht verkauft. kurs ist zurückgegangen. egal was man macht macht man falsch. wobei ein kleiner nachkauf ist bei st. augustine vllt. eine überlegung wert. nachdem ich aber in den letzten zwei jahren bei den minenwerten ziemlich unter die räder gekommen bin ich sehr verunsichert.
Oh man, das ist dumm gelaufen aus heutiger Sicht. Dafür sieht es heute doch wieder ganz gut aus in Kannada. ;-)
Man hätte nachkaufen sollen!!!
Drüben sind wir zumindest wieder bei den 40 Cent. ;-)
hoffentlich fällt gold sehr tief, dann steigt sau gewaltig. bewegt sich immer gegen den goldkurs, irgendwie komisch :-)
Ist die letzen Tage ja wieder ruhig hier...
… dafür sieht es heute in Deutschland seht gut aus. ;-)
Die 0,36 scheinen sich drüben festzusetzen, das sind bei uns immerhin 0,285! ;-)
Komisch, dass der neue Partner 0,40 CAD für das große Aktienpaket zahlt und T.SAU nur 0,18.. CAD für die kleine Aktienausgabe verlangt. Da hätte man auch 0,40 CAD verlangen sollen?!
Der tRend geht heute drüben auch wieder nach oben nach den ersten Notierungen. Hätte nichts dagegen, wenn wir die 0,40 wieder überschreiten.
Sind doch drüber 
mit dem neuen Partner sollten die Pennystockzeiten bald vorbei sein hoffe ich
mit dem neuen Partner sollten die Pennystockzeiten bald vorbei sein hoffe ich
Sieht doch gut und stabil die letzten tage aus. ;-)
Macht keine anderer den Move nach oben mit?
HUI, XAU, Gold und Silber heute massiv unter Druck. Und St. Augustine bleibt bei hohen Umsätzen einfach auf der Stelle stehen. Was kommt da wohl?
Bin immer noch dabei und ordentlich im Plus. Würde gerne mal langfristig dabei bleiben. Noch jemand dabei?
Sieht die Tage ja wieder ganz stabil aus.
dieses scheißteil kann sich auch nicht entscheiden in welche richtung es will
@ athewinner
nicht ärgern. Verkaufen. Ich nehm sie
nicht ärgern. Verkaufen. Ich nehm sie
Da sah doch gestern mal wieder ganz gut aus. In den ausländischen Boards wurde auch heftig diskutiert.
Auch wenn ich sicherlich hätte Verkaufen können, bleibe ich erstmal dabei...
Auch wenn ich sicherlich hätte Verkaufen können, bleibe ich erstmal dabei...
Meine Güte, ihr seid aber echt schwer zu finden !!!
Also ich verfolge diesen Titel schon seit 2-3 Jahren aber nur auf der "watchlist" als ich in einem kostenpflichtigen "Börsenschmierblatt" was darüber gelesen habe. Ehrlich gesagt gefallen mir die Aussichten auch ausgesprochen gut, doch ich habe bislang noch nicht erfahren das es zu mehr als Aussichten gereicht hätte. Wirklich was hingestellt haben die doch auch noch nicht. Oder ???
Das Projekt ist doch nun soweit ich weiß seit über 30 oder mehr Jahren in allen möglichen Konstelationen unterwegs, kam aber bis auf einige Sandkastenspiele nicht hinaus.
Kann mich mal jemand aufklären ob da wenigstens ein paar neue Strohhütten aufgestellt wurden ??
Bleibe gerne dabei.
Gruß
Also ich verfolge diesen Titel schon seit 2-3 Jahren aber nur auf der "watchlist" als ich in einem kostenpflichtigen "Börsenschmierblatt" was darüber gelesen habe. Ehrlich gesagt gefallen mir die Aussichten auch ausgesprochen gut, doch ich habe bislang noch nicht erfahren das es zu mehr als Aussichten gereicht hätte. Wirklich was hingestellt haben die doch auch noch nicht. Oder ???
Das Projekt ist doch nun soweit ich weiß seit über 30 oder mehr Jahren in allen möglichen Konstelationen unterwegs, kam aber bis auf einige Sandkastenspiele nicht hinaus.
Kann mich mal jemand aufklären ob da wenigstens ein paar neue Strohhütten aufgestellt wurden ??
Bleibe gerne dabei.
Gruß
kann mir jemand ein paar tröstende gedanken vermitteln, bin schon mit diversen minen 12000 euro im minus, eine reine katastrophe. western lithium, southern silver, white tiger gold und nuinsco resources. alle unter aller sau
Ach mein Bester. Wenn es Dich tröstet, ich habe allein bei WTG so viel Miese wie Du schreibst. Jetzt soll's möglicherweise noch ein delisting geben von der TSX.
Das ist nun mal so. Alle Minen sind im Arsch. Da bleibt kein Auge trocken. Refinanzierungsprobleme und Anlegerflucht sind das Mittel der Wahl um auch solide Unternehmen zu ruinieren.
Also entweder hoffen das es nicht so weit kommt, danach kann man auf gute Gewinne zählen, oder so schnell wie möglich raus aus den Dingern.
Viel Glück bei Deiner Entscheidung...
Das ist nun mal so. Alle Minen sind im Arsch. Da bleibt kein Auge trocken. Refinanzierungsprobleme und Anlegerflucht sind das Mittel der Wahl um auch solide Unternehmen zu ruinieren.
Also entweder hoffen das es nicht so weit kommt, danach kann man auf gute Gewinne zählen, oder so schnell wie möglich raus aus den Dingern.
Viel Glück bei Deiner Entscheidung...
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 44.513.407 von athewinner am 25.04.13 17:02:19@ athewinner
Jetzt bloß nicht die Nerven verlieren. Man muss kaufen, wenn das Blut fließt. SAU hat ein Weltklasseprojekt. Keinerlei Verkaufsdruck bei der Aktie. Mit Paulo Villar ist einer der angesehensten Unternehmer der Philippinen mit an Bord. Demnächst kommt die Studie zu King-King.
Das sind Kaufkurse...
Gruß
b
Jetzt bloß nicht die Nerven verlieren. Man muss kaufen, wenn das Blut fließt. SAU hat ein Weltklasseprojekt. Keinerlei Verkaufsdruck bei der Aktie. Mit Paulo Villar ist einer der angesehensten Unternehmer der Philippinen mit an Bord. Demnächst kommt die Studie zu King-King.
Das sind Kaufkurse...
Gruß
b
Jemand ne Info zu den Umsätzen am Freitag? Über 2 Mio Shares!
Sieht ja heute wieder ganz gut aus. Noch jemand dabei?
Ja klar, Dr. Info. Ich hab bei 0,15 CAN nachgelegt. Seltener Glückstreffer.
Und so wie das gerade aussieht, fängt die Party ja erst an
Und so wie das gerade aussieht, fängt die Party ja erst an
Kennt jemand den Grund für den Anstieg? Vor 2 Wochen gab es schon einmal einen Versuch.
http://www.canadianinsider.com/node/7?menu_tickersearch=St.+…" target="_blank" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">http://www.canadianinsider.com/node/7?menu_tickersearch=St.+…
so, ich habe jetzt drei positionen jetzt angeschaut, die ich schon länger im fokus hatte, jedoch nicht investiert habe: first majestic, barric, drd => die haben sich in der golderholung fast alle verdoppelt
positionen die ich gekauft und behalten habe: Augustine, Southern Silver, Nuinsco Res, White tiger Gold und Western Lithium => an denen geht die letzte erholung spurlos vorbei, die bewegen sich nicht vom fleck. ich glaube diese werte sind tot und ich habe mehr als 10.000 euro verloren.
dass man sich so falsch entscheiden kann....!!!!!????
positionen die ich gekauft und behalten habe: Augustine, Southern Silver, Nuinsco Res, White tiger Gold und Western Lithium => an denen geht die letzte erholung spurlos vorbei, die bewegen sich nicht vom fleck. ich glaube diese werte sind tot und ich habe mehr als 10.000 euro verloren.
dass man sich so falsch entscheiden kann....!!!!!????
Stärke Schwankungen in den letzten Tagen, kann sein, dass es einen neuen Schwung nach oben gibt. Das ist ein reines Gefühl auf Basis des Kurses.
Aktuelle fundamentale Daten kenne ich nicht. Wirkliche News auf http://sagcmining.com/en/investors.php sind auch nicht nicht zu finden.
Werde weiter dabei bleiben.
Aktuelle fundamentale Daten kenne ich nicht. Wirkliche News auf http://sagcmining.com/en/investors.php sind auch nicht nicht zu finden.
Werde weiter dabei bleiben.
Das klingt doch ganz gut und der Kurs in den letzten Tagen unterstreicht dies auch:
Study puts King-king mine value at $2-B
MANILA, Philippines – The joint venture between National Development Corp. (Nadecor) and American firm St. Augustine Gold and Copper Ltd. said the King-king copper-gold project in Compostela Valley has a "pre-tax, net present value of $2 billion."
Officials of the joint venture said the preliminary feasibility study for the project showed it is economically viable.
“The intensive technical work that St. Augustine has invested in the PFS confirmed that this flagship mining project has the potential to generate great value and thousands of jobs for the Philippines,” said Nadecor president Conrado Calalang in a press conference on Thursday, September 19.
According to St. Augustine Country Director Clyde Gillespie, if construction works begin early 2014, “commercial operations will start by 2015.”
Calalang said the mine will directly employ 45,000 people. He added “there will be substantial training of employees."
Read: Finally, Nadeco proceeds with King-king project
The 1,620 hectare King-king project is located in Pantukan town.
Below are the feasibility study's key findings.
The project will generate unleveraged pre-tax net present value of $2 billion and an estimated pre-tax internal rate of return of 24.8% (using an 8% discount rate, $1,250/oz gold price $3.00/lb copper price).
Mining rate will be approximately 178,000 tons per day for a 22-year mine plan.
Average annual production during the first 5 years of full production is 270 million pounds copper, 360,143 ounces gold and 568,958 ounces silver with an average gold equivalent total cost of $454 per ounce.
There is an estimated initial capital expenditure of $2.04 billion. This will include the mine, the mill, on-off leach pad, power plant and port facility and $240 million in contingency costs.
More partners
With the findings, Nadecor and St. Augustine officials said foreign investors have expressed interest in financing the project in the future.
“There are big indications of partners coming in… they are Europeans and South Americans,” said Calalang.
Calalang also expects the mine to be profitable on the back of high demand for metals.
“The demand for copper is coming out of Asia, including Korea, Japan, China and India,” added St. Augustine’s COO Tom Henderson.
The companies said the King-king project enjoys support from the Compostela Valley local government. – Rappler.com
Quelle: http://www.rappler.com/business/special-report/whymining/why…
Study puts King-king mine value at $2-B
MANILA, Philippines – The joint venture between National Development Corp. (Nadecor) and American firm St. Augustine Gold and Copper Ltd. said the King-king copper-gold project in Compostela Valley has a "pre-tax, net present value of $2 billion."
Officials of the joint venture said the preliminary feasibility study for the project showed it is economically viable.
“The intensive technical work that St. Augustine has invested in the PFS confirmed that this flagship mining project has the potential to generate great value and thousands of jobs for the Philippines,” said Nadecor president Conrado Calalang in a press conference on Thursday, September 19.
According to St. Augustine Country Director Clyde Gillespie, if construction works begin early 2014, “commercial operations will start by 2015.”
Calalang said the mine will directly employ 45,000 people. He added “there will be substantial training of employees."
Read: Finally, Nadeco proceeds with King-king project
The 1,620 hectare King-king project is located in Pantukan town.
Below are the feasibility study's key findings.
The project will generate unleveraged pre-tax net present value of $2 billion and an estimated pre-tax internal rate of return of 24.8% (using an 8% discount rate, $1,250/oz gold price $3.00/lb copper price).
Mining rate will be approximately 178,000 tons per day for a 22-year mine plan.
Average annual production during the first 5 years of full production is 270 million pounds copper, 360,143 ounces gold and 568,958 ounces silver with an average gold equivalent total cost of $454 per ounce.
There is an estimated initial capital expenditure of $2.04 billion. This will include the mine, the mill, on-off leach pad, power plant and port facility and $240 million in contingency costs.
More partners
With the findings, Nadecor and St. Augustine officials said foreign investors have expressed interest in financing the project in the future.
“There are big indications of partners coming in… they are Europeans and South Americans,” said Calalang.
Calalang also expects the mine to be profitable on the back of high demand for metals.
“The demand for copper is coming out of Asia, including Korea, Japan, China and India,” added St. Augustine’s COO Tom Henderson.
The companies said the King-king project enjoys support from the Compostela Valley local government. – Rappler.com
Quelle: http://www.rappler.com/business/special-report/whymining/why…
Hui, da gibt es heute aber einen ordentlichen Abschlag! Woran liegt es?
Hier die aktuellste Präsentation: http://sagcmining.com/en/presentations/SAU_ppt_Jan_7_2014.pd…
Lohnt es sich jetzt nachzukaufen?
Hier die aktuellste Präsentation: http://sagcmining.com/en/presentations/SAU_ppt_Jan_7_2014.pd…
Lohnt es sich jetzt nachzukaufen?
unglaublich, jeder meiner werte ist abgesackt, jetzt auch dieser
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