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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 74.379.836 von faultcode am 25.08.23 13:44:4731.8.
Tesla Cuts Prices On Model 3 Inventory In The US By Up To $5,500
You can get a brand-new Model 3 RWD for just $37,120 before the federal tax credit.
https://insideevs.com/news/684508/tesla-cuts-prices-model-3-…
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=> die Autos müssen vom Hof; siehe:
Tesla Cuts Prices On Model 3 Inventory In The US By Up To $5,500
You can get a brand-new Model 3 RWD for just $37,120 before the federal tax credit.
https://insideevs.com/news/684508/tesla-cuts-prices-model-3-…
...
=> die Autos müssen vom Hof; siehe:
Zitat von faultcode: ...
nachdem Tesla eben kein Händlernetzwerk unterhält, sind sie laut J.D. Power gezwungen pro-aktiv mit ihrem Inventar umzugehen.
=> daher mMn die vielen Preisanpassungen mittlerweile bei Tesla weltweit
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 72.216.408 von faultcode am 17.08.22 19:50:28Bau der Gigafactory Texas: wieder Omead Afshar ("key lieutenant to Elon Musk"), der nun bei SpaceX arbeitet:
30.8.
Tesla Executive in Purchasing Probe Draws Scrutiny From US
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-internal-purchasing-pro…
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A Tesla Inc. plan to purchase hard-to-get construction materials is being investigated by US prosecutors, who are looking at whether the project was an appropriate use of company funds.
The US Attorney’s Office in New York has sent subpoenas to a number of current and former employees at the EV-maker in recent weeks seeking information related to the materials, according to people familiar with the probe. The requests for information focus on correspondence with Omead Afshar, a key lieutenant to Elon Musk and the individual at the center of an internal Tesla probe into the issue, said the people, who asked not to be identified because the matter is private.
Prosecutors are reviewing a 2022 purchase order for construction material which was identified as suspicious by company officials. The order, for a special kind of glass, was flagged to Tesla’s finance and internal audit groups earlier last year.
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Some of the people who have received the subpoenas have been asked to testify in a New York court next month. -- FC: schon wieder
30.8.
Tesla Executive in Purchasing Probe Draws Scrutiny From US
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-internal-purchasing-pro…
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A Tesla Inc. plan to purchase hard-to-get construction materials is being investigated by US prosecutors, who are looking at whether the project was an appropriate use of company funds.
The US Attorney’s Office in New York has sent subpoenas to a number of current and former employees at the EV-maker in recent weeks seeking information related to the materials, according to people familiar with the probe. The requests for information focus on correspondence with Omead Afshar, a key lieutenant to Elon Musk and the individual at the center of an internal Tesla probe into the issue, said the people, who asked not to be identified because the matter is private.
Prosecutors are reviewing a 2022 purchase order for construction material which was identified as suspicious by company officials. The order, for a special kind of glass, was flagged to Tesla’s finance and internal audit groups earlier last year.
...
Some of the people who have received the subpoenas have been asked to testify in a New York court next month. -- FC: schon wieder
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 73.084.322 von faultcode am 13.01.23 12:36:52und das am Wochenende auch beim Valorant Champions 2023-Finale (https://valorantesports.com/) in L.A.:
Das Publikum ruft im Hintergrund "Bring back Twitter!" nach dem Ausbuhen am Anfang:
https://twitter.com/JakeSucky/status/1695564768168530235
https://www.pcgamer.com/elon-musk-appearance-at-valorant-cha…
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Billionaire Elon Musk was booed by the crowd when his attendance on the final day of the Valorant Champions 2023 tournament was highlighted in the broadcast.
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Das Publikum ruft im Hintergrund "Bring back Twitter!" nach dem Ausbuhen am Anfang:
https://twitter.com/JakeSucky/status/1695564768168530235
https://www.pcgamer.com/elon-musk-appearance-at-valorant-cha…
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Billionaire Elon Musk was booed by the crowd when his attendance on the final day of the Valorant Champions 2023 tournament was highlighted in the broadcast.
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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 74.341.165 von faultcode am 18.08.23 12:14:40ab Mitte September geht's hier richtig los und dann bis ins nächste Jahr hinein (mindestens):
28.8.
Tesla braces for its first trial involving Autopilot fatality
The 2019 crash, which has not been previously reported, killed the driver and seriously injured his two passengers, including an 8-year-old boy.
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/tesla-braces-…
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Tesla is set to defend itself for the first time at trial against allegations that failure of its Autopilot driver assistant feature led to death, in what will likely be a major test of Chief Executive Elon Musk’s assertions about the technology.
Self-driving capability is central to Tesla’s financial future, according to Musk, whose own reputation as an engineering leader is being challenged with allegations by plaintiffs in one of two lawsuits that he personally leads the group behind technology that failed. Wins by Tesla could raise confidence and sales for the software, which costs up to $15,000 per vehicle.
Tesla faces two trials in quick succession, with more to follow.
...
Tesla won a bellwether trial in Los Angeles in April with a strategy of saying that it tells drivers that its technology requires human monitoring, despite the “Autopilot” and “Full Self-Driving” names. The case was about an accident where a Model S swerved into the curb and injured its driver, and jurors told Reuters after the verdict that they believed Tesla warned drivers about its system and driver distraction was to blame.
...
The stakes for Tesla are much higher in the September and October trials, the first of a series related to Autopilot this year and next, because people died.
...
Tesla filed an emergency motion in court late on Wednesday seeking to keep deposition transcripts of its employees and other documents secret. Banner’s attorney, Lake “Trey” Lytal III, said he would oppose the motion.
“The great thing about our judicial system is Billion Dollar Corporations can only keep secrets for so long,” he wrote in a text message.
...
Tags: Micah Lee (California), Stephen Banner (Florida),
28.8.
Tesla braces for its first trial involving Autopilot fatality
The 2019 crash, which has not been previously reported, killed the driver and seriously injured his two passengers, including an 8-year-old boy.
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/tesla-braces-…
...
Tesla is set to defend itself for the first time at trial against allegations that failure of its Autopilot driver assistant feature led to death, in what will likely be a major test of Chief Executive Elon Musk’s assertions about the technology.
Self-driving capability is central to Tesla’s financial future, according to Musk, whose own reputation as an engineering leader is being challenged with allegations by plaintiffs in one of two lawsuits that he personally leads the group behind technology that failed. Wins by Tesla could raise confidence and sales for the software, which costs up to $15,000 per vehicle.
Tesla faces two trials in quick succession, with more to follow.
...
Tesla won a bellwether trial in Los Angeles in April with a strategy of saying that it tells drivers that its technology requires human monitoring, despite the “Autopilot” and “Full Self-Driving” names. The case was about an accident where a Model S swerved into the curb and injured its driver, and jurors told Reuters after the verdict that they believed Tesla warned drivers about its system and driver distraction was to blame.
...
The stakes for Tesla are much higher in the September and October trials, the first of a series related to Autopilot this year and next, because people died.
...
Tesla filed an emergency motion in court late on Wednesday seeking to keep deposition transcripts of its employees and other documents secret. Banner’s attorney, Lake “Trey” Lytal III, said he would oppose the motion.
“The great thing about our judicial system is Billion Dollar Corporations can only keep secrets for so long,” he wrote in a text message.
...
Tags: Micah Lee (California), Stephen Banner (Florida),
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 74.385.821 von faultcode am 27.08.23 00:33:30
https://tff-forum.de/t/model-s-bj-2014-korrosion-an-den-tuer…
<Fahrzeug 9 Jahre alt nach Eigenangaben>
https://tff-forum.de/t/model-s-bj-2014-korrosion-an-den-tuer…
<Model X, Baujahr 2017 nach Eigenangaben>
Da hätten sich die Tesla-Designer und ihr Teilzeit-CEO mal besser mit diesem Thema vorher beschäftigt:
CORROSION OF ALUMINIUM
laut Christian Vargel (https://shop.elsevier.com/books/corrosion-of-aluminium/varge…) gilt (aus der 1. Auflage, 2004):
...
CHAPTER B.2 TYPES OF CORROSION ON ALUMINIUM
...
2.2. PITTING CORROSION
...
Aluminium is prone to pitting corrosion in media with a pH close to neutral, which basically covers all natural environments such as surface water, seawater, and moist air. -- ja, feuchte Luft gibt's in Deutschland, in California dafür weniger
...
Unlike other metals, corrosion of aluminium is always eye-catching because the corrosion pits are covered with white, voluminous and gelatinous pustules of alumina gel Al(OH)3. These pustules are much bigger than the underlying cavity.
...
Pitting corrosion is a very complex phenomenon indeed. Even today, its mechanism is not totally understood, in spite of the very large number of studies and publications that have appeared on this subject for 80 years.
What is well known are the conditions under which pitting corrosion is initiated and propagates, and how to slow it down.
Consequently, nowadays, it is obsolescence of the equipment rather than pitting corrosion (*) that puts an end to the lifetime of most equipment exposed to humid environments for decades.
...
...
(*) genauso scheint es mMn auch hier mal wieder im Hause Tesla gelaufen zu sein: anzunehmende Obsoleszenz > aufwendigeres Engineering
...
2.2.4. Sensitivity of aluminium alloys to pitting corrosion
All aluminium alloys are prone to pitting corrosion in natural environments.
...
Möglicherweise ist der Kupfergehalt bei den Tesla-Alu-Legierungen (auch für die Türen) erhöht, da: ... copper-containing alloys, which are used only in the automotive industry. They are beyond the scope of this book. Due to their high copper content, their resistance to corrosion is rather low; ...
EM hat ja wiederholt gesagt, daß bei Tesla (und SpaceX) viel mit Legierungen (aller Art) experimentiert würde. Und dabei unterstelle ich, daß gerade für die Auto-Teile gilt: Umformbarkeit > Korrosionsschutz
Nebenbei: theoretisch muss Lochkorrosion (vermutlich zusammen mit Spannungskorrosion --> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spannungsrisskorrosion, da offenbar nur an Ecken zunächst auftretend) hier nicht die einzige Ursache sein (und sie ist mMn auch nur ein Schönheits-Makel, kein Sicherheits-Makel); aber ich finde sie am passendsten von den ganzen Möglichen an offensichtlicher Aluminium-Korrosion. Die betroffenen User sollen halt mal den Lack vorsichtig wegkratzen, um darunter nach möglichem Aluminiumhydroxid um kleine Löcher herum zu fanden
Tags: Pit corrosion, Peptic corrosion, Designed in California
Lochkorrosion bei Aluminium-Legierungen
doch dabei wird es womöglich nicht bleiben. Deutsche Besitzer älterer Tezzla's mussten nämlich schon dieses Phänomen beobachten:
https://tff-forum.de/t/model-s-bj-2014-korrosion-an-den-tuer…
<Fahrzeug 9 Jahre alt nach Eigenangaben>
https://tff-forum.de/t/model-s-bj-2014-korrosion-an-den-tuer…
<Model X, Baujahr 2017 nach Eigenangaben>
Da hätten sich die Tesla-Designer und ihr Teilzeit-CEO mal besser mit diesem Thema vorher beschäftigt:
CORROSION OF ALUMINIUM
laut Christian Vargel (https://shop.elsevier.com/books/corrosion-of-aluminium/varge…) gilt (aus der 1. Auflage, 2004):
...
CHAPTER B.2 TYPES OF CORROSION ON ALUMINIUM
...
2.2. PITTING CORROSION
...
Aluminium is prone to pitting corrosion in media with a pH close to neutral, which basically covers all natural environments such as surface water, seawater, and moist air. -- ja, feuchte Luft gibt's in Deutschland, in California dafür weniger
...
Unlike other metals, corrosion of aluminium is always eye-catching because the corrosion pits are covered with white, voluminous and gelatinous pustules of alumina gel Al(OH)3. These pustules are much bigger than the underlying cavity.
...
Pitting corrosion is a very complex phenomenon indeed. Even today, its mechanism is not totally understood, in spite of the very large number of studies and publications that have appeared on this subject for 80 years.
What is well known are the conditions under which pitting corrosion is initiated and propagates, and how to slow it down.
Consequently, nowadays, it is obsolescence of the equipment rather than pitting corrosion (*) that puts an end to the lifetime of most equipment exposed to humid environments for decades.
...
...
(*) genauso scheint es mMn auch hier mal wieder im Hause Tesla gelaufen zu sein: anzunehmende Obsoleszenz > aufwendigeres Engineering
...
2.2.4. Sensitivity of aluminium alloys to pitting corrosion
All aluminium alloys are prone to pitting corrosion in natural environments.
...
Möglicherweise ist der Kupfergehalt bei den Tesla-Alu-Legierungen (auch für die Türen) erhöht, da: ... copper-containing alloys, which are used only in the automotive industry. They are beyond the scope of this book. Due to their high copper content, their resistance to corrosion is rather low; ...
EM hat ja wiederholt gesagt, daß bei Tesla (und SpaceX) viel mit Legierungen (aller Art) experimentiert würde. Und dabei unterstelle ich, daß gerade für die Auto-Teile gilt: Umformbarkeit > Korrosionsschutz
Nebenbei: theoretisch muss Lochkorrosion (vermutlich zusammen mit Spannungskorrosion --> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spannungsrisskorrosion, da offenbar nur an Ecken zunächst auftretend) hier nicht die einzige Ursache sein (und sie ist mMn auch nur ein Schönheits-Makel, kein Sicherheits-Makel); aber ich finde sie am passendsten von den ganzen Möglichen an offensichtlicher Aluminium-Korrosion. Die betroffenen User sollen halt mal den Lack vorsichtig wegkratzen, um darunter nach möglichem Aluminiumhydroxid um kleine Löcher herum zu fanden
Tags: Pit corrosion, Peptic corrosion, Designed in California
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https://www.autoevolution.com/news/new-images-and-video-conf…
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So far, Cracked_Tesla (+) has not heard of any other cases like the one involving his BEV. Although even the Model Y owner wishes his car to be the only one affected, that is very unlikely. Giga Grünheide faced 60% of rejected cast parts about a year ago. There are pictures of these rejected parts pilling up in Fremont. If NK's Model Y received a component that should also have been discarded by quality control, others may have reached production units as well.
...
(+) Cracked_Tesla: youtube.com/@Cracked_Tesla
Tags: Giga casting, Model Y, cracks
...
So far, Cracked_Tesla (+) has not heard of any other cases like the one involving his BEV. Although even the Model Y owner wishes his car to be the only one affected, that is very unlikely. Giga Grünheide faced 60% of rejected cast parts about a year ago. There are pictures of these rejected parts pilling up in Fremont. If NK's Model Y received a component that should also have been discarded by quality control, others may have reached production units as well.
...
(+) Cracked_Tesla: youtube.com/@Cracked_Tesla
Tags: Giga casting, Model Y, cracks
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 74.379.800 von faultcode am 25.08.23 13:36:50Ich vermute mal, daß alleine schon wegen der aufgerufenen Preise (die ja noch nicht feststehen) an ein handverlesenes Publikum (mit NDA's?), die Rampe so ausfallen wird, daß nicht zuviel produziert werden wird, um die Verluste in Grenzen zu halten, aber genau so viel, daß einige davon in den USA als Marketing-Gag herumfahren werden.
Genauso sehe ich das auch.
Und parallel wird weiter versucht mit Bestellungen zu pushen und das Spielchen bis 2025 zu treiben.
Allerdings wird das jetzt erst recht schwer, da es kein Wachstum mehr gibt.....
Genauso sehe ich das auch.
Und parallel wird weiter versucht mit Bestellungen zu pushen und das Spielchen bis 2025 zu treiben.
Allerdings wird das jetzt erst recht schwer, da es kein Wachstum mehr gibt.....
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 74.307.075 von faultcode am 12.08.23 15:07:35
Das klingt nun nicht gerade nach einer hoffnungsvollen Produktionsrampe.
Ich vermute mal, daß alleine schon wegen der aufgerufenen Preise (die ja noch nicht feststehen) an ein handverlesenes Publikum (mit NDA's?), die Rampe so ausfallen wird, daß nicht zuviel produziert werden wird, um die Verluste in Grenzen zu halten, aber genau so viel, daß einige davon in den USA als Marketing-Gag herumfahren werden.
Und wo will EM eigentlich die 4680-Zellen einbauen lassen, wenn diese mal in erhöhter Stückzahl zur Verfügung stehen sollten?
In die Semis? Oder in die Cybetrucks?
Mal wieder richtig schwierige Entscheidungen für den Tesla-Teilzeit-CEO.
Cybetruck: "extremely difficult"
EM: ".. While I think it is our best product ever, it is an extremely difficult product to build. .." -- https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1694460811291578722Das klingt nun nicht gerade nach einer hoffnungsvollen Produktionsrampe.
Ich vermute mal, daß alleine schon wegen der aufgerufenen Preise (die ja noch nicht feststehen) an ein handverlesenes Publikum (mit NDA's?), die Rampe so ausfallen wird, daß nicht zuviel produziert werden wird, um die Verluste in Grenzen zu halten, aber genau so viel, daß einige davon in den USA als Marketing-Gag herumfahren werden.
Und wo will EM eigentlich die 4680-Zellen einbauen lassen, wenn diese mal in erhöhter Stückzahl zur Verfügung stehen sollten?
In die Semis? Oder in die Cybetrucks?
Mal wieder richtig schwierige Entscheidungen für den Tesla-Teilzeit-CEO.
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 73.228.618 von faultcode am 04.02.23 00:13:33
Tesla investors to get about $12,000 apiece in Musk’s SEC deal
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-investors-12-000-apiece…
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A group of Tesla Inc. investors stands to recover an average of about $12,000 a head for losses they incurred from Elon Musk’s famous 2018 tweet that he had “funding secured” to take the carmaker private at $420 a share — and then didn’t.
The US Securities and Exchange Commission aims to pay the investors the $40 million plus interest that Tesla’s chief executive officer and the company agreed to as civil penalties to settle a lawsuit by the regulator. That’s just over half the $80 million the SEC reckons they lost from the stock’s gyrations after the tweet — and a mere sliver of the $12 billion in losses an expert witness for a class of Tesla investors calculated earlier this year in a separate class action trial.
The SEC asked a judge for final approval of the plan in a court filing Wednesday evening.
A total of 3,350 claims will be paid out of the fund set up from the settlement if the plan is approved, according to the filing. That works out to just under $12,400 an investor, on average. The judge said Thursday he would sign off on the plan on Sept. 1 if there are no objections from Tesla or Musk, the world’s richest person.
What accounts for the huge gap in estimated losses between the $80 million and the $12 billion? It’s not entirely clear, but the expert’s number applied to losses by all Tesla investors over 10 days after the Aug. 7, 2018, tweet. The SEC’s number covers just over 27 hours after the tweet, excludes options and derivative trades and applies only to Tesla common stock. And not every eligible investor filed a claim.
The investors in the class action case lost at trial in February, when the jury took just two hours to clear Musk of their claim that he defrauded them with the tweet. The case was one of the few corporate securities fraud claims to go to trial. The vast majority are thrown out or settled.
The investors are appealing. (gemeint ist der letztere Prozess im California Northern District Court, Case No. 3:18-cv-04865-EMC,
"In re Tesla Inc. Securities Litigation", nicht dieser hier: New York Southern District Court, Case No. 1:18-cv-08865-AJN, United States Securities and Exchange Commission v. Musk
siehe:
28.04.2022
"funding secured" in NYC (United States Securities and Exchange Commission v. Musk)
24.8.Tesla investors to get about $12,000 apiece in Musk’s SEC deal
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-investors-12-000-apiece…
...
A group of Tesla Inc. investors stands to recover an average of about $12,000 a head for losses they incurred from Elon Musk’s famous 2018 tweet that he had “funding secured” to take the carmaker private at $420 a share — and then didn’t.
The US Securities and Exchange Commission aims to pay the investors the $40 million plus interest that Tesla’s chief executive officer and the company agreed to as civil penalties to settle a lawsuit by the regulator. That’s just over half the $80 million the SEC reckons they lost from the stock’s gyrations after the tweet — and a mere sliver of the $12 billion in losses an expert witness for a class of Tesla investors calculated earlier this year in a separate class action trial.
The SEC asked a judge for final approval of the plan in a court filing Wednesday evening.
A total of 3,350 claims will be paid out of the fund set up from the settlement if the plan is approved, according to the filing. That works out to just under $12,400 an investor, on average. The judge said Thursday he would sign off on the plan on Sept. 1 if there are no objections from Tesla or Musk, the world’s richest person.
What accounts for the huge gap in estimated losses between the $80 million and the $12 billion? It’s not entirely clear, but the expert’s number applied to losses by all Tesla investors over 10 days after the Aug. 7, 2018, tweet. The SEC’s number covers just over 27 hours after the tweet, excludes options and derivative trades and applies only to Tesla common stock. And not every eligible investor filed a claim.
The investors in the class action case lost at trial in February, when the jury took just two hours to clear Musk of their claim that he defrauded them with the tweet. The case was one of the few corporate securities fraud claims to go to trial. The vast majority are thrown out or settled.
The investors are appealing. (gemeint ist der letztere Prozess im California Northern District Court, Case No. 3:18-cv-04865-EMC,
"In re Tesla Inc. Securities Litigation", nicht dieser hier: New York Southern District Court, Case No. 1:18-cv-08865-AJN, United States Securities and Exchange Commission v. Musk
siehe:
28.04.2022
Zitat von faultcode: Richter Liman ("Twitter Sitter", 2018) ist offenbar nicht Richter Slights ("SolarCity"):
PDF zum Urteil ("OPINION AND ORDER"; 18-cv-8865 (LJL)): https://twitter.com/montana_skeptic/status/15193580835955261… --> https://t.co/iPlPmnULBr
und das hat es in sich mMn:
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=> offenbar gilt hier: ein Mann weiß mehr
(mMn)
engaged in conducted that... = ~ in etwas verwickelt sein
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