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[ToskanaOskar]

Massenweise weltoffene aufgeklärte demokratisch denkende Weltbürger.

Oder doch nur die Detroit Sektion des Klu Klux Clan


Mit eig. Übernahmen im Ausland scheinen die Amis weniger Probleme zu haben



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Re: dcx, Germans belong in Germany.


alas, if only the germans would give up so easily. they won`t, it`s a matter of pride. "ve vont give up until ve conquer ze vorld! ze victory vill be complete!" heil schrimpp.

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The Huns are on the attack!!

I wish chrysler had stayed American instead of being handed over to the Germans! Why can`t U.S. firms stay U.S. ? Can`t these Germans just stay inside Germany and not interfere with us?

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Knew this would happen

This is not the only german company that replaces americans with germans. It starts at the top and works its way down. No one does anything about it because these are "rich white guys". If I was a young person just starting out in the corporate world I would stay way from these companies because since you are not one of the master race you will hit the glass ceiling. I know first hand that americans in these companies are being told you can go no higher because you are not german. Maybe the EEOC will finally look into these companies.

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** NO MORE GERMAN CAR !!!!!!!!!

Those Jaguar looks nice!
Also those Lexus and Acura!

All of my car is German, better get rid all of them soon!!

No more Lufthansa flight!!

I HATE GERMAN NOW!!
(too bad my relative are German)

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http://messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=t&type=f&board=14495381…

[crashi]

Da kommt bloß wieder der alte dümmliche Deutschenhaß heraus.
Geschürt vor allem von Hollywood seit endlosen Jahrzehnten.
Seht Euch doch bloß die Filme an, in denen deutsche Schauspieler auftreten und was die für Rollen spielen durften. Von den schwachsinnigen Filmen und Serien auf dem Kabelkanal mal ganz abgesehen.Und abgesehen von den deutschen Regisseuren wie Emmerich u.a.
Dabei müßten die Amis doch wissen, daß sie ihren Unabhängigkeitskrieg ohne den Magdeburger und Preußen General Friedrich Wilhelm v.Steuben nie gewonnen hätten.

[boxenstopp]

Die meisten von denen wissen garnicht
wo sie Deutschland auf der Landkarte
finden...sehr amüsant !!

Na ja, so ein paar Löcher und das auch
noch an die richtige Stelle war für die
meisten etwas zuviel verlangt.

Gruß an ALLE
Schweizer

[Prolet]

Spielberg leistet ganze Arbeit !

Den Schrottladen würde ich dicht machen.
Dann können die Amis in Spielbergs Shoa-Stiftung arbeiten.

[WonderbraBernd]

War doch im Prinzip klar in Angesicht dieses unerträglich aroganten Nationalismus, den nahezu das gesamte amerk. Volk an den Tag legt.

Schon bei und kurz nach der Fusion konnte man sehen, welch Ausverkauf (von DCX) und damit welche Stimmung in den USA gegenüber Daimler herschte. Heute halt der Chryslerabsatzeinbruch gepaart mit Gerüchten über "deutsches Felverhalten". Unmöglich, allerdings bei der Bildungstiefe in den USA sowie allerlei pol. Unfuggedanken der Parteien nicht wirklich wunderbar.

Eigentlich müßte man hier breiter angelegt Diskutieren, nur kurz...

:OWBB:O

[Le Chef]

Und das von einem Volk , das nicht mal in der Lage ist , seine Wahlstimmen korrekt zu zählen , wie in Timbuktu !

Aber was will man schon von Amiland erwarten , wo die Hersteller von Mikrowellengeräten allen Ernstes in die Bedienungsanleitung schreiben müssen , daß die Geräte nicht zum Trocknen nasser Haustiere geeigenet sind .
Insbesondere die Amiweiber sind sowas von strunzdumm ...

Thommy

[Prolet]

Ich hab´noch einige "Highlights" gefunden :

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chrysler to do a `HIndenburg"?

by: johnny_treetrunks (M/Forestville, USA) 11/21/00 1:01 pm
Msg: 6127 of 6138
and -explode- or something? or will it sink like the Bismarck? it`s certainly no messerschmidt , ay?

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I welcome the decision to send over Mr. Zetsche to turn around the Chrysler part of DCX.

In many companies, a "tough" change is the only way to waken up people and go forward.

This has nothing to do with "germanisation" of the company.
I have lived in Germany - being a european citizen - and I have liked to work with Germans. They are very straight but expect from the partners the same approach, NO messing around.
Re: Chrysler needs a strong hand
by: joeshorts01 (37/M/Cleveland, Ohio) 11/18/00 10:52 am
Msg: 5990 of 6138

Der Kommentar aus der Wiege der Demokratie :
Go back to Germany.
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Today Chrysler, Tomorrow?
by: vegasdweller00 (M/Las Vegas, NV) 11/15/00 10:54 pm
Msg: 5887 of 6138

Mercedes Uber Alles...
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Jetzt noch der Hammer :

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Just because you cram a few million Jews into a shower and gas them, doesn`t mean you are ready to play with the Americans. Remember, Americans dropped a atom bomb on a Japanese City. Killed Thousands of children playing in the school yards. We liked it so much--we did it to them again. I don`t think you were ready to play with the Americans just yet. They are merciless businessmen.
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[WonderbraBernd]

Gib mal die URL

Danke

:OWBB:O

[DermitdemBaertanzt]

Ich würde diese Volksverhetzung nicht überbewerten. Das ist der gleiche Abschaum von Nazis, die wir leider auch in Deutschland nicht im Griff haben. Diese paar Idioten sind kein Grund, gleich auf die ganze USA herum zuhacken. Die meisten Amis würden diesen Bodensatz auch lieber hinter Schloß und Riegel sehen.

Tatsache ist, es geht um unsere Daimler-Aktie, und Tatsache ist auch, daß Schrempp mit Billigung des inkompetentesten Aufsichtsrates, der je existierte, seit der Chrysler-Übername permanent Scheiße gebaut hat.

Im Forbes Magazin habe ich dazu nochmal eine wesenliche Zusammenfassung des Schrempp-Dramas gefunden:

Quelle: http://www.forbes.com/2000/11/17/1117flint.html

Chrysler Needs A Hero
Jerry Flint, Forbes.com, 11.17.00, 12:01 AM ET


Can it get any worse for Chrysler?


The past couple of weeks Jurgen Schrempp, chief executive of DaimlerChrysler (nyse: DCX), had been telling reporters that he was brilliant in deliberately lying to Chrysler executives when he devised the combination of Mercedes and Chrysler two years ago. He bragged how he told the Americans it was a "merger of equals" because he knew they wouldn`t accept his real plan to reduce the rich American vehicle maker to a division of the German company.


That`s Act 1.


Now Act 2.


Schrempp just fired the American president of the Chrysler piece of the company. This is the third American removed as a top officer of Chrysler in two years. Now Schrempp is sending over Dieter Zetsche, a German, to run Chrysler from its headquarters in Auburn Hills, near Detroit.


When Schrempp convinced the Chrysler board to sell the company it was one of the most successful car companies in the world. Now, two years later, the company is in shambles.


Chrysler lost $500 million in its latest quarter; it`s market share has been dropping; plants are closing in order to cut inventories; and James Holden, the Chrysler chief executive that Schrempp put in office just one year ago, has just been given the axe.


Now, there`s talk that more losses are coming since there`s no leadership and morale is at rock bottom. A few weeks ago, Chrysler`s highly respected designer and leader, Tom Gale, announced that he, too, is leaving at the end of the year.


As a whole, the stock price for DaimlerChrysler, which peaked at more than $100, is less than $50, which means that the entire pre-merger market value of Chrysler has been wiped out. Schrempp`s September purchase of one-third of Mitsubishi, which is losing buckets of money, hasn`t helped either.


Act 3? Maybe the German board will reconsider Schrempp`s stay as chairman.


This is the second major disaster in the auto world that has come out of Germany. The first was BMW`s purchase of British Rover; maker of Rover cars and Land Rover sports utility vehicles (SUV). The acquisition cost BMW billions of dollars and resulted in the German company firing or losing its most seasoned executives, giving away the Rover car business (actually, paying some Brits to take it) and selling the Land Rover portion to Ford.


The Germans build good cars but make lousy conquerors.


So what`s wrong with Chrysler?


Start with product: Chrysler let the competition catch up on core vehicles.


For example, this is clear in the case of the Dodge Durango sports utility vehicle. When first introduced, Durango was a giant success because it was the only $30,000 SUV with three rows of seats. Now competitors, such as General Motors` (nyse: GM) Chevy Tahoe, have three rows. And Durango hasn`t come up with any new innovations, causing sales to slip. Ditto for the Jeep Grand Cherokee, where a 1999 redesign didn`t move the envelope enough.


The Dodge Big Ram pickup was, and still is, the best looking big pickup, but GM and Ford have brought out new models with advanced engineering and more interior room. Yet, Chrysler sat still and sales are slipping.


Instead of having a truly advanced minivan this fall, the new Chrysler minivan looks a lot like the old one, with few new features except for power doors and a power back hatch. That`s not enough--particularly against such solid competitors as the Honda Odyssey. The new Chrysler minivan is still a top seller, but the company has had to resort to discount financing to help it hold market share.


DaimlerChrysler also made a questionable move in killing Plymouth, a venerable brand that was started by the company`s founder, Walter P. Chrysler, in 1932.


Where the Chrysler product is superior, it sells well. Look at the Dakota, the small pickup truck. It is the largest of the small pickups, the best looking and the only one offering a V-8 engine. The Dakota also has four doors--something the rival Chevy model doesn`t. Resulting in a rise of 27% in sales this year. Or look at the Chrysler PT Cruiser, the retro-design wagon that`s possibly the hottest car in the world today. But Chrysler`s former leaders, who are all gone, created the PT.


Now Daimler`s only choice is to install effective American leadership or see this huge multibillion-dollar investment collapse. This will be bigger than the Rover disaster.


Why not bring back a hero? Examples:


Robert Lutz, former president and vice-chairman, leader of the team that created the winning Chrysler of a few years ago.


Tom Stallkamp who became president of Chrysler after the Germans took over, but was fired for criticizing German moves.


Lee Iacocca. This is a stretch because Lee was discredited when he tried to take Chrysler away from its last American managers. But since that team sold the company to the Germans, now Lee doesn`t look so wrong.


If one of these men returned, I have no doubt that Chrysler`s men and women would rally as they have in the past and confidence and enthusiasm would return. Of course, such a return would be a sign of self-rule and not domination. These men would not work under any other conditions.


It won`t happen. Executives--whether American or German--don`t admit mistakes. BMW bailed out of Rover five years after its purchase. Now time is running out in Stuttgart.


Act 3 and Act 4 may not be long in coming.

[Le Chef]

Seh ich das eigentlich falsch , oder ist es seit Jahrzehnten so , daß die Sparte Mercedes bei Daimler konstant fette Gewinne macht , die dann von den jeweiligen CEO`s für alle möglichen Experimente (AEG,Fokker,Adtranz usw. und jetzt auch Chrysler) milliardenweise verfeuert werden ???

Nicht auszudenken , wo Mercedes zusammen mit AMG als Spinoff an der Börse jetzt stehen könnte .... (siehe Porsche AG ) !
Schrempp wäre gut beraten sich mal mit Wiedeking ausführlich zu unterhalten , vielleicht lernt er was von ihm .

Thommy

[ToskanaOskar]

Feiertagsstimmung im Yahoo DCX Board.

Das man im Mutterland des Kapitalismus solche Probleme hat mit ein paar Entlassungen. hat


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Re: Germans Pissed -- Off !


Its the american and canadian workers who are gonna be pissed off when they again are asked to take pay cuts and accept plant closings. They need to put the germans on a plane and send there dumb asses back where they came from.

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Sieg Heil to the new German Leaders

<EOM>

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Himmel ! Vhat loozers!

Stand up straight you slovenly Americans. Vee
are in your kountry to organize you all into good werk gruppes.

In just a few veeks vee vill have you marching up and down, up and down, vid der front leg high in der air. Der sun will glint from your polished werkboots and Marlene Dietrich vill crackle through zer headphones.

Soon vee vill be introducing "Deutschland Uber Alles" as der company song. I know you Americanishe vill like , very gut dance musik.

Vee are also going to introduce more healthy diet to the company restaurant. You can keep your hot-dog and hamburger, you stole these from us anyway. Apple pie must go, it is from those gotfurdamung Englisch people, anyway. Pizza ist verboten, vee vant nothing to do mit those Italianische. Look at der probleme they caused us last time we did a JV. No, zay cannot be relied upon.

Also you are all too fat and must all go on a diet, so zat you can fit into der new small subcompact that we are making. It is your duty to buy your company products...if not, you will be taken outside and shot!

Vell, I hope you enjoy your time here at Chryslerwald, remember "Arbeit Machts Gelt"

By ze way, in order to enable you all to buy more stock we are going to reduce the price to $5 and rename them Bundes Bonds. In order to help us mit dis excellent idea you must now all go short! Ja, zehr gut!

Heil Chrysler (click)

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Hey buddy, don`t mess with Mercedes and don`t mess with Germany.
I will teach you some discipline:

ACHTUNG! Augen Geradeaus! STILLGESTANDEN!Marsch, Marsch!
Ich werde Euch degenerierten Typen erstmal Mainieren beibringen. Wenn ich mit Euch fertig bin, werdet Ihr sehen, was Arbeit bedeutet und was es heisst, für Mercedes Benz zu arbeiten!

[Prolet]

Himmel ! Vhat Loozers
by: butscratch 11/24/00 5:10 am
Msg: 6266 of 6539

I don`t know vhy you are alvays complaining you Americanische. Vee already pay you too much. You know vee had very good werkers in Deutschland, zey ver so proud of zer company zey werk for nothzing.

I don`t vant to hear anymore remarks about zer falling standards of our beloved Mercedes. Vee are werking on zer new model right now. In fact your very own Chrysler Design Studio is finalizing zer "retro" look. I can tell you a little secret, zat it will be ein cabriolet mit der running boards and spare vheel on der side. Vee are also considering a new SUV mit der half-track, fantastische fur der beach.

So, mein kameraden, von of zer great benefits of the new pay cuts is zat zey vill make you more efficient mit your money. Now you vill be looking for zer bargain in zer supermarkt.
Mein Gott, zer is enough food on zer out of date counter to feed an army...just as vell because vee are sending von of zose very soon!
hahaha! mein kleiner vitz (joke)! If you vant my vifes recipe for dumpling stew, very nourishing and cheap, ask your kapo he has copies.

I have noticed already zat your boots are not as shiney as they were at my last inzpection, and also you are not walking mit der high leg action. Zis must stop immediately, vee are trying to project an image of effiency.

Heil Chrysler (click!)

[Prolet]

Die Party geht weiter !

Kerkorian rolls over Berlin Wall
by: socialbeex2 11/29/00 9:55 am
Msg: 6622 of 6643

Thank you Kerkorian for saying the truth!!! Those lousy lying sneak German bastards lied and now taking over Chrysler like a Nazi Blitzkrieg.

[Kasimick]

Daimler soll bloss schnell diesen Chrysler Dreck an Kerkorian verkaufen.
Das will der doch bloss. Der hat doch schon bei der Übernahme (ää.. merger)
gewaltig abezockt. Noch so ein Prozessgekasper wie bei den
Presiwahlen ertrag ich nicht noch mal.
Jetzt kriegt er alles für nen Appel und n Ei.
Und die DaimlerBENZ Aktie wird dann nach oben sausen!

Grüsse
Kasimick

[Prolet]

Wir haben ein vorläufiges All-Time-High erreicht.

All the Wonderful things about Germany
by: straightforward1999 11/29/00 9:45 pm
Msg: 6675 of 6696

1. Hitler
2. Concentration Camps
3. Gas Chambers
4. Absolutely horrific torturing and mercyless killings of 6 million jews and even more russians. Infants, women, children slaughtered like farm animals.

So, why should we all be supprised that Juergen Schrempf lied, misled a few investors, and gave Chrysler Management the axe.



Re: All the Wonderful things about Germa
by: IAmSuperman_2001 (21/M/Metropolis) 11/29/00 10:19 pm
Msg: 6680 of 6696

straightforward, I like your style. I was thinking the very same thing - when all those morons were eating cake and celebrating when the so called "merger" took place. You should have seen those pigs eating that cake, many of the imbeciles were hoarding the cake, putting it in boxes and dragging it off to their lowly cubes. These animals were acting like they had never eaten before. Pure trash.

Well not everyone was blessed with common sense and an IQ above 100 or else they would have seen this coming from a mile away as the expression goes. Well, all the top officers need to be brought up on fraud charges, especially Mr. Bloat (Cheatin Eaton, or is that Eating Eaton).

These NAZI`s. are laughing all the way to the bank. Where was our congress and president when this travesty was taking place. Maybe he was too busy getting a knob job to care about American jobs.

Hail Shrimp.

[Prolet]

Kurz vor der Grenze zum RassismusChrysler middle management have been instructed , nay, commanded, by their German superiors to wear riding breeches and leather calf length boots at all time!

Breaking wind in public is also to be encouraged.

Also rest-room refurbishment along the German model is now being considered.
To give you a flavor (or should I say aroma) for this, please read the following article:German Toilets (June 3, 1997)

Somehow or other I got to talking about German toilets last night, so I thought it was time that I wrote a short essay on the subject.

German toilets are quite extraordinary. Other European toilets - or at least the ones that aren`t merely holes in the floor - work much like the North American variety. They are shaped a little differently, but the basic principle is the same: the excrement either lands directly in the water or it slides down a steep slope into the water, before being flushed away. Simple, effective and clean. See?


"Normal" toilet

Not so the German toilet. The excrement lands on a bone-dry horizontal shelf, mere inches beneath one`s posterior. Repeated flushings are required to slide the ordure off the shelf into a small water-filled hole, from which it hopefully disappears. See?


German toilet

I do not understand the purpose of this toilet. It does not save water - you must flush it eight or ten times to remove every last scrape and smear. It is not hygienic - the smell is ungodly. The only conceivable explanation is that Germans love to examine their stool, so the German toilet of necessity features a built-in stool inspection shelf. I wouldn`t be surprised if the more expensive models include a digital scale. "Mein Gott, zwei kilogram!" exclaims Günter, joyful and relieved.

Germans see nothing amiss. They actually like their toilets. Some even dislike North American toilets. You splash yourself, they claim. I don`t think this is possible. I`ve never splashed myself sitting on the toilet. For the wave to reach one`s bottom, one would need to eject a hefty pellet at tremendous velocity. I think they`re making that up.

We`ve had innumerable bad experiences with German toilets. In Berlin, we lived on an upper floor and the water pressure was too weak to push a healthy-sized log off the shelf. After a few minutes` fruitless flushing you`d be forced to grab a wad of toilet paper and give the horrid thing an encouraging nudge. Then followed a lengthy bout of brushing and cleaning to remove the skid marks from the porcelain. At the other extreme, in Munich we lived in a basement suite where the water pressure was too high. Worse, the shelf was actually slightly concave, forming a shallow bowl. The first time I flushed the toilet the water came rushing through so forcefully that a small chunk of poop launched off the lip and shot out over the floor. After that we always held the lid down when we flushed. I swore you could feel a kick as the turd ricoched off the underside.

Occasionally I try to convince my wife to write an article on the history of the German toilet. Instant tenure if she could explain the purpose of that shelf.

Don`t believe me? See for yourself.