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[Target21]

Aktuelle News von Timeless Software:

Timeless beteiligt sich an China Lake

Nachdem sich das Software-Unternehmen Timeless in der letzten Woche an COL Net beteiligt hat, folgt in dieser Woche schon die nächste Investition. Das Unternehmen erwirbt 70 % von China Lake für einen Preis von 1 Mill HK-$ und 16 Mill neuen Aktien.

China Lake plant zusammen mit einem staatlichen Unternehmen ein Geschäftsportal in der Provinz Guizhou aufzubauen. Man erwartet, dass bereits im ersten Jahr 3.000 bis 6.000 Firmen den Service des Portals in Anspruch nehmen. Der technische Aufbau der Plattform soll von Timeless vorgenommen werden.

-js- 23.04.01 07:57:00

17.04.01 Timeless beteiligt sich an COL Net

Das Software-Unternehmen Timeless hat sich mit 10 % an dem Investmentunternehmen COL Net beteiligt. Der Kaufpreis für diesen Anteil liegt bei 12,8 Mill HK-$.

COL Net investiert seit einem Jahr in Internetunternehmen. Das Tochterunternehmen COL Shenzhen ist zum Beispiel in den Bereichen ASP und Datenbanken investiert. Die Kunden sind hier vor allem Finanzinstitute.


So ists recht. Zuschlagen wenn billig ist. Timeless verfolgt bei den Beteiligungen eine gute Strategie.

Gruß T-21

[schnirchel]

Schön zu hören, besser noch und glaubwürdiger mit Quellenangabe!
Danke

[sitbumm]

Es gibt ja doch welche die Timeless kennen.

[sitbumm]

Beinahe vergessen. Zahlen hören sich ja nicht schlecht an.
Vielleicht wird es ja doch noch was.

[Target21]

@schnirchel

Quelle: Asiainternet.de - kannst ja nachlesen

Gruß T-21

[Target21]

Timeless wieder unter 0,8 HKD.

Tja, alles nur ein Strohfeuer?

[Target21]

Unter www.Timeless.com.hk findet ihr die neue HP von Timeless. Grün wie die Hoffnung.

T-21

[Target21]

Hallo Leute!

Hab mir die Mühe gemacht und diesen Brief an Timeless gemailt:

Hello!

Since more than one Year, I`ve been invested in Timeless Software Ltd.
First
I want big gains in a very short time. But Timeless destroyed my hope. The
share price fall and fall and fall... You know it!

But tell me some reasons why I should hold your corporation? Are you still
in a superiour growth. What is with your Investor Relations? Here in
Europe,
we hear hardly any from you.

Yours faithfully

Nach 2 Tagen bekam ich diese Antwort von Mandy Wong:

Dear Mr. XXX,

Thank you for your interest and support to Timeless. It`s unfortunate for
you to be impacted by the low sentiment of the stock market. However, we
like to remind our shareholders that Timeless is not selling concept,
rather, we are a real IT company, and have been focusing on software
research and development since 1996. We are the Internet Technology
Provider in the region and undertaking large projects in Hong Kong and
China at the present moment. As you should understand that it takes time
for a company to reap from its effort and investment, that we have been
actually gaining profits since our listing on the Hong Kong Growth
Enterprise Market in 1999 Nov. We have laid down a long term vision
although we grow our business pretty fast.

As far as stock price is concerned, ours rose more than 16% in HK the day
before, in fact, our stock price keeps rising from HK$0.5 to 0.91 in about
1.5 months time, the price is almost doubled in such a short time. As a
matter of fact that you should not loss your patience at the present
moment, since the market sentiment for IT stocks is rising. We are
positive with our stock price.

Our confidence is enforced by our significant growth recently, especially
in China. If you`ve visited the GEM or our web site (site addresses are
www.hkgem.com and www.timeless.com.hk), you can find the announcements we
have made. All these announcements report our business and technological
development which are growing rapidly. In fact, we become more and more
famous in China which enables us to penetrate the enormous market quickly
and easily thereafter.

Moreover, with the collaboration with Sybase, we are likely to enter the
Asian markets very soon. Our branch office in New York has been set up,
which allows us to explore and extend our market coverage in the U.S.

All in all, we are gaining profit (6 consecutive profitable quarters) and
definitely on the right track for further success.

Normally, we like to communicate with our investors directly apart from
posting information on our web site. You could feel free to contact us
again should you need further information about Timeless.

Kind regards,

Mandy Wong
Marketing
Timeless Software Ltd.


Fleissiger Chinese, hat sich echt bemüht und mir lange zurückgemailt. Grosses Lob.

Gruß T-21

[buabespitzle]

Scheint echt zu sein. ...
Wer so Scheiße Englisch spricht , bekommt nicht so einen Breief.

[Target21]

@buabespitzle

was soll das heissen. ist es jetzt echt oder nicht? was denkste!

Im Gegensatz zu dir poste ich nicht so oft so scheisse.

Gruß T-21

[fishhawk]

@buabespitzle

Seine Grammatik ist zwar nicht besonders, aber immerhin haben sie ihn verstanden.

Außerdem konnte man in den letzten Wochen mit Timeless wieder gut verdienen. Leider hab ich für 7 Cents nur Teilausführungen gekriegt.

Die Chinesen müssten eigentlich schon wissen, warum sie wieder timeless kaufen.

[Target21]

Wüßte nicht was an meinem Englisch auszusetzen ist?!

T-21

[fishhawk]

@target21

Logisch, sonst würdest du die Fehler ja nicht machen.

Deine Prepositionen, Kasi und Idioms sind noch etwas ausbaufähig, aber man versteht dich.

buabespitzle übertreibt natürlich, ich würde deine Kenntnisse schon als befriedigend bezeichnen.

[Target21]

Na ja, halb so wild.

[fishhawk]

Richtig

Wichtig ist, dass du dich traust und dass man dich versteht.

Und natürlich, dass timeless steigt !

[Target21]

(Embedded image moved to file: pic17186.pcx)Timeless Software Ltd
May 10, 2001

Dear Investors,

In the past 1.5 months, there are significant growth of Timeless` stock
price and business. If you have noticed that our stock price has risen to
HK$0.93 from 0.5 in such a short time period, the price was almost doubled.

As far as business is concerned, we have been growing in China rapidly in
the same period of time. Let us summarized the recent announcements for
your easy reference.


Contract Signing with China Lake to develop portal site for Guizhou

On April 20, 2001, Timeless Strategy, a wholly owned subsidiary of Timeless
Software Ltd (Timeless), has entered into an agreement to acquire shares of
China Lake to form a JV. This JV signed a service contract for the portal
development project with Timeless Guangzhou, values at HK$7 million. We
believe that the revenue generating potential of the JV will be substantial
as based on the close relationship of the JV partner with the Guizhou
Government and their support. It is envisaged that several thousands of
enterprises in Guizhou province will be introduced to use the services
provided by this portal in the first year.

JV with COL Net to provide software services for securities brokers in
China

The business activity of COL Net is conducted through its wholly-owned
subsidiary, COL Shenzhen, which is principally engaged in the business as
an application service provider and database service provider to securities
brokers and investors in the PRC. Timeless Strategy signed the JV
agreement with COL Net on April 12, 2001. The Directors of Timeless
consider that the investment in COL Net is in line with the Company`s
business strategy to establish itself as a world leader in corporate
software services with a dominant position in the Greater China region and
will complement and enhance the existing business of the Group.

Besides, we have also signed a service contract with COL Net to develop an
application system for their portal site.


JV and Service contract signed with Tianjin Partner in China

On March 29, 2001, Timeless has entered into the equity JV agreement with a
Tianjin development company. This JV partner is directly and indirectly
owned by Tianjin Government and three other authorities in Tianjin, and is
a high-tech enterprise authorized by the government, actively taking part
in information technology development focusing on the plan of Tianjin
information port project.

The JV will be engaged in the operation of Tianjin Information Resources
Platform (IRP) which will be constructed by Timeless Beijing. A service
contract of approximately HK$20 million has also been signed between the JV
Partner and Timeless Beijing on March 29, 2001. IRP will be a standard
system in relation to information resources in Tianjin. Its functions
include areas such as database center, public information database,
eCommerce, industry and commerce administration management system and
office automation. Based on the support from the Tianjin Government, all
enterprises in Tianjin will be introduced to use IRP. IRP will further be
introduced to the north-western part of Mainland China in two years time.


Other Business Development

Besides the continuous growth in China including the collaboration with
Tsing Hua University, the most popular college in China and is also famous
in the world, as well as further development in the western China, we have
just set up our US branch office in New York. We are working closely with
our affiliate in the States to obtain contracts from the government
departments like US Army. Further development and results in the US will
be updating you once details are available.

For the above announcements, you could obtain more details from the
following two web sites:

www.hkgem.com
www.timeless.com.hk

Thank you for your support to Timeless. We will try every endeavor to make
the Company to be developed and profitable, and we are confident that we
are able to achieve the target based on the continuous successes. Our
investors will definitely benefit from the investment in Timeless
eventually.


Kind regards,
Mandy Wong

Marketing Director
Timeless Software Ltd

T: 2514 9248
F: 2519 7319
E: [e-mail]
www.timeless.com.hk

[Target21]

Was isn los. Timeless schon wieder +16 % in HK.

[Kastor]

Wenn ich mir den Chart anschaue,so steil ist der
Mount Everest nicht
Hab früher immer so ein Blatt erhalten wo Charts drin
waren von 0,15 auf 80$ der Timeless Chart sieht genau
so aus schön wär es!

Kastor

[Kastor]

Grad nachgesehen wieder 1,4%+
Obwohl der Index mächtig runterknallt!
Möchten die Chinesen eine Microsoft,Softbank ?

Kastor

[Natriumglutamat]

@Kastor

Ich glaube eher, das die Chinesen Softwareaktien allgemein wollen. Während Timeless "nur" eine Steigerung von ca. 150% von ihrem Jahrestief schafft sieht es bei anderen Software Aktien sogar noch besser aus.

(8045)Nandasoft: + 425%
(8133)Kingdee: + 480%
(8098)Techwayson: + 240%
(8135)Chengdu: + 270%
(8095)Beida Jade: + 150%

Ich sag`s ja immer wieder. Börse hat halt auch viel mit Psychologie zu tun. Denn fundamentale Gründe kann ich für diese Kurssteigerungen nicht erkennen. Zumindest gab es bei Timeless keine News, die diese Steigerung rechtfertigen könnten. Das soll aber nicht bedeuten, das Timeless solch eine Steigerung nicht verdient hätte. Scheint sich ja wirklich um ein gut positioniertes Unternehmen zu handeln. Aber wie ich glaube schon mal sagte, ist es leider nur eines unter vielen (siehe die anderen Unternehmen und ihre Kurssteigerungen). Aber vielleicht kommen ja dieses Jahr noch "Hammernews" von Timeless? Aber schaun wir mal.

Gruß,
Ng

[schlaglicht]

ganz ruhig ...

der index ist keinesfalls `runtergeknallt` - zu keinem zeitpunkt des tages, denn minus 1,3% sind für den gem nichts wirklich ungewöhnliches ... charttechnisch sieht es trotzdem ganz gut aus. dass mit der bemerkung, ob die chinesen eine microsoft `wollen` verstehe ich nicht (ich habe aber auch neulich schröder nicht verstanden, als er sagte, er sei dagegen das die wirtschaftlichen daten so schlecht seien ...)

der vergleich u.a. mit einer it-sicherheitsfirma (nandasoft), die ihren ipo erst vor knapp vier wochen hatte ist auch schwierig ... obwohl der ipo von nandasoft sich bisher sicherlich besser anlässt, als der damals vergurckte von timeless ... allerdings glaube ich, dass die derzeitigen timeless projekte viel phantasie zulassen.

gruss
schlaglicht

[Natriumglutamat]

@schlaglicht

Prinzipiell hast Du recht, das der Vergleich mit Nanda etwas unglücklich ist. Aber er zeigt, das momentan ein recht hohes Interesse an Softwareaktien besteht.
Aber was soll`s. Freuen wir uns über die steigenden Kurse und eine dicke Geldbörse.
Good Trades,
Ng

[schlaglicht]

.. naja und nimmt man zu deiner beobachtung, dass softwareaktien gefragt sind, die beobachtung hinzu, dass nicht zuletzt durch einige gute gelaufene ipo`s in der letzten zeit der gem offensichtlich wieder ein grösserer `kapitalattraktor` geworden ist, erklärt sich auch die positive entwicklung von timeless... hoffen wir mal das timel.-soft das durch fundamentale daten untermauern wird ... das müssten sie allerdings schon machen, wenn es weiter gehen soll

gruss
schlaglicht

[Kastor]

Timeless jetzt bei 0,21euro
Was da los ist Egal hauptsache das Ding steigt

Kastor

[jan-patrick]

Kann mir jemand sagen ob COL-Net und COL Shenzhen etwas mit China Online (WKN HK 383, Deutschland 885023) zu tun hat?
China Online (Bermuda) wird auch mit COL abgekürzt!

[fishhawk]

@natriumglutamat

Mir egal wie hoch die Aktien in Hongkong gestiegen sind, ich hab meine Timeless brav in Frankfurt und Berlin gekauft und da sinds schon 200%.

Leider hab ich nicht soviel gekriegt wie ich wollte, ich danke aber trotzdem allen, die zu 0,07 verkauft haben.

[RandomGambler1]

Blick nach Hongkong ?!:http://quote.e-finet.com/cgi-bin/stock.cgi?code=8028&type=qu…

[charlie100]

Hallo, Timeless ist heute wegen einer wesentlichen Wertpapiertransaktion vom Handel ausgesetzt? Wer weiß näheres?

charlie

[schlaglicht]

das ist zwar nicht der grund aber - bei timeless tut sich was ...

Timeless Software, West China e-Business on 460 Mln Yuan IT Projects
Jun 18, 2001 - 19:05:05 HKT
Quamnet News Service
Timeless Software Ltd. (8028), a Hong Kong-based software provider, said it has entered into an agreement valued at 460 million yuan with West China e-business Co., Ltd. on June 17 in YinChuan comprising implementation of four information infrastructure technical contracts.

The projects include "China YinChuan National Economic technical development zone information environment construction project", "Broadband Internet Data Center Project", "China Western e-Commerce (NingXia) Certification Authentication (CA) Project" and "China Western e-Commerce Port e-Commerce Platform construction Project". These four projects form the backbone of Ningxia`s "Tenth-Fifth" Information process.

West China e-business Co., Ltd. is a high-tech joint venture led by the government of Ningxia Hui Autonomous Region and organized by four premium China Listed Companies such as Guangxia Industry Co., Ltd. and subsidiary of China Telecom totaling seven companies.

[schlaglicht]

vielleicht doch noch ein kleiner kommentar: das agreement, das timeless hier geschlossen hat, bemisst sich auf immerhin das dreifache des gesamten umsatzes im jahr 2000... vielleicht sind da noch umfangreichere jv mit im agreement enthalten, die es noch zu finanzieren gilt ... wäre ja nicht das erste mal dieses jahr...

[iseries]

timeless kauft west china. Nachzulesen bei www.em-research.de

[charlie100]

das ist aber wohl nicht der Grund, warum es runtergeht. Eher dieser:


Timeless Software meldete heute, dass der Gewinn des abgelaufenen Geschäftsjahres um 45,7 % nachgegeben hatte. Insgesamt wurden noch 37,4 Mio. HK$ erzielt. Im letzten Jahr hatte man noch 68,9 Mio. HK-$ erwirtschaftet.

Gelesen heute in asiainternet.de


gruss charlie

[2609]

hallo,

hat Timeless nicht im Jahr vorher eine Gewinnsteigerung
von 174 % gehabt.
Ich meine, dies gelesen zu haben bei EM Research.
Wenn ja, dann ist es doch eigentlich nicht ganz so
schlimm, wenn der Gewinn zurückgeht, aber noch ein Gewinn verbleibt.
Außerdem gehe ich davon aus, daß die Zusammenarbeit mit
offiziellen Stellen bisher nur Geld gekostet hat und erst
dann zum Gewinn beitragen wird, wenn die Ergebnisse vermarktet werden können.

2609

[RandomGambler1]

Step by step geht`s weiter .....

http://www.timeless.com.hk/servlet/Main?lang=3&strMMID=24&ur…

[xevious]

Timeless Software mit neuem Joint Venture



Timeless Software plant mit der Tianjiner Stadtregierung ein 10 Mill Yuan-Joint Venture einzugehen. Das Softwareunternehmen wird einen Anteil von 45 % an dem Venture halten. Die übrigen Partner werden die staatlichen Firmen Tianjin Airport International und Tianjin Center of Electrical Information Application Service sein.

Das neue Venture soll bereits im ersten Jahr einen Umsatz von 120 Mill Yuan (32 Mill DM) und einen Gewinn 30 Mill Yuan (8 Mill DM) erzielen. Haupteinnahmequelle soll der Verkauf von Software und Services in die USA und Hongkong sein.

[Kastor]

Grad gefunden !
Aber Ausgabe von neuen Papieren?
wegen 1,2Mill Euro ????

Kastor

Timeless übernimmt Pro-Market



Timeless Software gab am Donnerstag bekannt, dass die Tochter Timeless Strategy 56 % des ausgegebenen Kapitals von Pro-Market für 8,75 Mill HK-$ (1,2 Mill Euro) erworben habe. 3,5 Mill HK-$ davon wird man in bar zahlen. Der Rest soll durch die Ausgabe neuer Papiere gezahlt werden.
Timeless wird damit der kontrollierende Inhaber und plant zudem ein Angebot an die restlichen Anteilseigner abzugeben.

Pro-Markt ist ein Solution Provider für den britischen Elektronikmarkt.

[lebensverschoenerer]

schaut mal: heute auf quamnet gefunden - kommen nicht gut weg die guys von timeless ....


Timeless (8028) Claims God Saved Them From Terrorists
Nov 14, 2001 - 11:08:10 HKT
QuamResearch

Timeless reported interim results that again make one wonder exactly what the heck is going on in
these guys` heads.

The business explanation part of their report should be a complete embarrassment to whoever put
that particular pen to paper. The company trivializes the September 11 tragedy by claiming "divine
intervention" as saving the company from harm. The use of the September 11 terrorist attacks in
their report seems no more than a shameless attempt to divert attention from their failure to live up
to the hype that surrounded their listing.

Let`s look at the numbers:

Interim -- 6 Months to Sept. 2001 (YoY)

Core turnover dropped from HK$59 million to $45 million
Other revenues dropped from $28 million to $4.4 million
Profit dropped from $30 million to $2.86 million
EPS dropped from 4.01 cents to 0.36 cents


Timeless, the clock is ticking.

Quarterly -- 3 Months to Sept. 2001 (YoY)

Core turnover increased from $26 million to $29 million
Other revenues dropped from $23 million to $2.2 million
Profit dropped from $15 million to $2.3 million
EPS dropped from 1.98 cents to 0.28 cents


Quarter on Quarter -- 3 Months to Sept. Vs. 3 Months to June

Core turnover increased from $16 million to $29 million
Other revenues flat
Profit increased from 0.5 million to 2.2 million
EPS increased from 8 cents to 28 cents


So, at least compared to the quarter before, Timeless improved. We`re still not impressed though.

Observations:

Income from computer consultancy services rose
Income from sale of third party hardware and software fell
Other core turnover activities are inconsequential


Within the "other revenues" category, the main entries are interest income -- which declined
remarkably year-on-year, meaning they are running through cash, but did stabilize on a
quarter-on-quarter basis -- and investment gains. Investment gains played a huge role last year --
nearly $20 million -- and almost nothing this year.

Divine Intervention:

The company made a rather large note about "special providence" in the prologue to their business
discussion -- saying had it not been for divine intervention the terror attacks would have brought
down "the Group`s US operation, embryonic though it was, and our Chairman with it."

The company had planned on taking up an 89th floor office in WTC 1 -- which leads to another
question of why Timeless keeps blowing shareholders` money, but that`s up to shareholders to ask at
the next AGM -- on September 1, but this was postponed because of a last minute postponement
to wait for the completion of a project going on with Tsinghua Univ.

Now we get to the really crass part:


"In hindsight, it could be that the sincere desire to bring to the US market the Group`s very
best had miraculously saved the Group from harm."


After more of this and that, the announcement finally declares, "on the other hand, the Group`s core
business was not negatively affected in the current quarter, which was a positive sign."

At least we can assume their business failings are their own work rather than the work of Satan.

Positive Factors:

Timeless asserts that the previous year was boosted by profits on securities investments. They claim
that taking that out, profit would be "on a comparable level to that of the same quarter last year."

Stagnant and proud of it.

Timeless also claims to have half a billion dollars worth of contracts on hand. No time frame was
provided, and we would be interested to look back on this in a year and see how much gets realized.
Margins are another question.

Conclusion:

Timeless` claims don`t impress us. The stock is a sell at the current 62 cents per share and $466
million cap. The crassness of trying to capitalize on the New York tragedies is too much even for
Hongkongers.

Avoid this counter like you would a coffee date with bin Laden.

[lebensverschoenerer]

auf die gefahr hin das es doppelt erscheint ... ich habe hier technische probleme ...


Timeless (8028) Claims God Saved Them From Terrorists
Nov 14, 2001 - 11:08:10 HKT
QuamResearch

Timeless reported interim results that again make one wonder exactly what the heck is going on in
these guys` heads.

The business explanation part of their report should be a complete embarrassment to whoever put
that particular pen to paper. The company trivializes the September 11 tragedy by claiming "divine
intervention" as saving the company from harm. The use of the September 11 terrorist attacks in
their report seems no more than a shameless attempt to divert attention from their failure to live up
to the hype that surrounded their listing.

Let`s look at the numbers:

Interim -- 6 Months to Sept. 2001 (YoY)

Core turnover dropped from HK$59 million to $45 million
Other revenues dropped from $28 million to $4.4 million
Profit dropped from $30 million to $2.86 million
EPS dropped from 4.01 cents to 0.36 cents


Timeless, the clock is ticking.

Quarterly -- 3 Months to Sept. 2001 (YoY)

Core turnover increased from $26 million to $29 million
Other revenues dropped from $23 million to $2.2 million
Profit dropped from $15 million to $2.3 million
EPS dropped from 1.98 cents to 0.28 cents


Quarter on Quarter -- 3 Months to Sept. Vs. 3 Months to June

Core turnover increased from $16 million to $29 million
Other revenues flat
Profit increased from 0.5 million to 2.2 million
EPS increased from 8 cents to 28 cents


So, at least compared to the quarter before, Timeless improved. We`re still not impressed though.

Observations:

Income from computer consultancy services rose
Income from sale of third party hardware and software fell
Other core turnover activities are inconsequential


Within the "other revenues" category, the main entries are interest income -- which declined
remarkably year-on-year, meaning they are running through cash, but did stabilize on a
quarter-on-quarter basis -- and investment gains. Investment gains played a huge role last year --
nearly $20 million -- and almost nothing this year.

Divine Intervention:

The company made a rather large note about "special providence" in the prologue to their business
discussion -- saying had it not been for divine intervention the terror attacks would have brought
down "the Group`s US operation, embryonic though it was, and our Chairman with it."

The company had planned on taking up an 89th floor office in WTC 1 -- which leads to another
question of why Timeless keeps blowing shareholders` money, but that`s up to shareholders to ask at
the next AGM -- on September 1, but this was postponed because of a last minute postponement
to wait for the completion of a project going on with Tsinghua Univ.

Now we get to the really crass part:


"In hindsight, it could be that the sincere desire to bring to the US market the Group`s very
best had miraculously saved the Group from harm."


After more of this and that, the announcement finally declares, "on the other hand, the Group`s core
business was not negatively affected in the current quarter, which was a positive sign."

At least we can assume their business failings are their own work rather than the work of Satan.

Positive Factors:

Timeless asserts that the previous year was boosted by profits on securities investments. They claim
that taking that out, profit would be "on a comparable level to that of the same quarter last year."

Stagnant and proud of it.

Timeless also claims to have half a billion dollars worth of contracts on hand. No time frame was
provided, and we would be interested to look back on this in a year and see how much gets realized.
Margins are another question.

Conclusion:

Timeless` claims don`t impress us. The stock is a sell at the current 62 cents per share and $466
million cap. The crassness of trying to capitalize on the New York tragedies is too much even for
Hongkongers.

Avoid this counter like you would a coffee date with bin Laden.

[Hansjoerg]

Hallo,

hört sich ja gar nicht schön an, was da so drin steht.
Lustig wird´s allerdings, wenn man sich das von Altavista übersetzen lässt (http://world.altavista.com/).....vor allem der letzte Satz.Da kann man dann wieder drüber lachen.

Gruß hans