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      schrieb am 21.06.03 12:26:20
      Beitrag Nr. 1 ()
      da hier jeder einen thrääääd aufmacht

      :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

      es gibt in usa zum starttermin nicht mehr viele karten für T3:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

      also ran an den speck:D :D :D :D :D :D

      boxoffice nach 4Tagen 140mio´s:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

      wie immer

      nur meine meinung.......:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 12:40:54
      Beitrag Nr. 2 ()
      Sollten es nicht über 4000 Theaters sein?
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 13:17:41
      Beitrag Nr. 3 ()
      Arnold wird weinen, wenn er sieht, was die Filmindustrie an ihm verdient!

      :D
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 16:44:49
      Beitrag Nr. 4 ()
      Hier ein paar Sequels als Kostprobe:

      Im großen und Ganzen schaut dies nach Handmade Action pur mit einem Schuss Humor aus:

      http://www.latinoreview.com/films_2003/wb/t3/images.html

      Denke nach 5 Tagen dürften wir so bei 100-120 Mio USD liegen, nach 3 Tagen 80-100 Mio USD. Gesamteinspielerlöse: 200-240 Mio USD
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 16:58:45
      Beitrag Nr. 5 ()
      @4 in US allein:lick:

      gruss

      ch76xxxx

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      schrieb am 21.06.03 17:08:09
      Beitrag Nr. 6 ()
      Was denkst du, hast du die Sequels gesehen...ich glaube der dürfte auf jedenfall unterhaltsamer und kurzweiliger als MAtrix Reloaded sein. Habe mir dieses anscheinende Meisterwerk gestern angetan, und ich stellte fest, dass ich nicht der einzige war, der bei dem 20 minütigen Kampf von Keanu eingeschlafen bin. Sorry, aber mit dem konnte ich wirklich Null anfangen, aber vielleicht hätte ich auch den ersten Teil anschauen muessen, um intellektuell überhaupt ein wenig mitzukommen, soweit man davon im weitesten Sinne sprechen kann ;)
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 17:17:22
      Beitrag Nr. 7 ()
      3850Kinos*500 Plätze*3Vorstellungen*7$*3Tage=

      ca 121 Mio US $


      Ist natürlich nur ne Überschlagsrechnung!!!

      :D

      :cool:CC:cool:
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 17:22:49
      Beitrag Nr. 8 ()
      @ herbi , da müsste nach meine rechnung ca. jeder

      zwanzigste ami in den ersten drei tagen ins kino

      habe gerechnet : 7$ pro ticket mal 15 mio. besucher

      also jede menge , oder sehe ich`s falsch wenn ja bitte um aufklärung

      gruss peter
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 17:27:27
      Beitrag Nr. 9 ()
      @peter22; gib mal bitte eine Prognose für den Kurs - bis Start T3 bzw. danach

      Ich will erstmal bis 3 Euros halten...

      gruß

      alberto :cool:
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 17:41:02
      Beitrag Nr. 10 ()
      hi alberto , ich glaube , dass bei IEM nicht so einfach

      wird die 3€ marke zu erreichen wie es bei PAQ der fall

      gewesen ist ,aber wer weiß das schon , ich lass mich

      gerne des besseren belehren:cool:

      ibrigens ich bin bei IEM gnau so wie bei PAQ aufs ganze

      gegangen dskk 1,1:cool:
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 17:42:29
      Beitrag Nr. 11 ()
      ÜBRIGENS
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 17:58:14
      Beitrag Nr. 12 ()
      @peter, ich halte auch eine schöne Position zu dskk 1,05.

      Das problem, das IEM m.M. nach hat, ist die Nachhaltigkeit der Erträge. Wenn ich hier Gewinnschätzungen, in Abhängigkeit von dem T3-Erfolg, von 1-3 Euros/Share für 2003 lese, dann kann man dies nicht als nachhaltig unterstellen. Wäre dies nachhaltig, könnte ich mir auch Kursziele - wie ich sie hier auch schon gelesen habe - von über 10 Euro vorstellen.

      schau Dir mal den EM TV-Chart an, die lief an 2-3 Tagen 100%

      alberto :cool:
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 18:09:34
      Beitrag Nr. 13 ()
      @Peter und Albert


      Ihr habt keinen Fehler gemacht mit Internationalmedia und mit Paq noch weniger!! Wobei ich denke, dass IEM momentan mehr Potential hat!!! Wegen dem Mega-Handelsvolumen in den letzten Tage!! Als beispiel normaler Tagesumsatz bei IEM sind 50k - 100k!! Momentan sind es 500k - 2mio Aktien!!!!

      Weiterhin gibt der T3 Hype noch einiges her!!!! Desweiteren spricht der Buchwert (5,5 €), der in diesem Jahr weitersteigen wird!!! der geplante Aktienrückkäuf, die noch nicht belohnten zahlen von Q1 und der positive ausblick (namenshaft Produktion wie alexander in 2004) für Kurse über 3 €.

      Bei paq wird es vor den Halbjahreszahlen wieder interessant, bis dahin wird es in kleinen Schritten Richtung norden gehn!!! :D
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 18:20:44
      Beitrag Nr. 14 ()
      @ alberto , also bis 10€ werde ich nicht warten , es kann

      unter umständen auch jahre dauern , ich bin ein daytrader

      und versuche das vola zu nutzen

      ps. paq habe ich in den zwei monaten über 100 mal getradet:cool:
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 19:00:56
      Beitrag Nr. 15 ()
      hier bildschirmschoner von t3

      https://www.t3screensaver.com/product/T3/index.php


      servus f@lke:D
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 19:39:44
      Beitrag Nr. 16 ()
      @ f@lke , 10$ vofür?
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 19:52:44
      Beitrag Nr. 17 ()
      @peter22

      ist doch egal, es gibt doch viele leute wo es
      umbedingt haben wollen, geht doch in die kasse
      von IM

      servus f@lke
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 20:05:51
      Beitrag Nr. 18 ()
      Eins verstehe ich nicht.Warum verkaufen dann die Partner ihre Anteile vor einem erwarteten guten Boxoffice ergebnis von T3?Ist doch völlig unlogisch.sollte der Film gut laufen sind doch viel höhere Kurse möglich!Oder haben diese Herren den Film schon gesehen ,was ich für möglich halte,und er ist den ganzen aufwand nicht wert.
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 20:20:00
      Beitrag Nr. 19 ()
      #18

      weil das nichts mit Erfolgsaussichten zu tun haben muss...

      zB. kommt eine frühere Absprache/Verbindlichkeit zum Aktientausch mit einem Aufkäufer in Betracht.

      Für uns Kleinanleger sind 2-5 Mio´s ne menge Holz

      Aber für Topmanager, Aufsichtsräte usw. ist ein solcher Deal unter Umständen eine Routineabwicklung!

      Oft wird bei solchen Fragen vergessen, dass man (wir) eine ganz andere Sichtweise für diese Summen haben.

      Gruß
      Barzer
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 20:21:44
      Beitrag Nr. 20 ()
      Das wirst du auch nicht verstehen, weil es eigentlich keiner so recht versteht.
      Aber frag das nochmal in 2-3 Wochen, wenn IEM bei 3,xx steht .......
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 20:31:21
      Beitrag Nr. 21 ()
      Na mit den 3 euro wäre ich vorsichtig.Auch stört mich das die aktie von Nogger gepuscht wird.Was glaubt ihr ab wann (Kurse,Marktkap) Fonds auf IM aufmerksam werden?
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 20:35:18
      Beitrag Nr. 22 ()
      ab genau 3€ daher KZ 01/04 =10-15€

      klingt verrückt... ist aber nicht weit hergeholt!
      Schau mal in Save´s thread und sein Vergleiche zu anderen Medienwerten nach!
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 20:39:51
      Beitrag Nr. 23 ()
      @turbosex
      Kannst Du mit dem Nick noch klare Gedanken erzeugen?

      Welchen negativen Einfluß hat den NoggertT auf den Erfolg oder Mißerfolg der IEM?

      Unvorsichtig 3€ geschätzt ist sowieso ein Unding. Wieso muß hier "Vorsicht" geleistet werden?

      Um bei Deiner "Argumentationslinie" zu bleiben:
      Vorsichtig geschätzt kann der Kurs in 2-3 Wochen bei 5€ sein.

      mfg

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      schrieb am 21.06.03 20:41:08
      Beitrag Nr. 24 ()
      die instis sind meine meinung nach schon drin , oder

      glaubst du die hoche umsätze sind nur durch noggi zustande gekommen
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 20:46:43
      Beitrag Nr. 25 ()
      @turbosex

      "Was glaubt ihr ab wann (Kurse,Marktkap) Fonds auf IM aufmerksam werden?"

      ==>

      Die Frage ist interessant.
      Doch eher stelle ich mir die Frage, ob Fonds an den Umsätzen der letzten Tage beteildigt waren.


      Also:
      Was glaubt Ihr ob Fonds schon in IEM investiert sind und ob sie weiter Kaufen?

      Es gibt im Board Anleger die in Banken sind und Zugang zu solchen Daten haben. Evt. könnte jemand der mehr weis, dazu hier posten.

      mfg

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      Etwas schneller, der Peter ;)
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 20:55:49
      Beitrag Nr. 26 ()
      und hiermit werde ich mich festlegen, das ding wird steigen :cool:
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 20:59:44
      Beitrag Nr. 27 ()
      Hast recht! Bei diesen Umsätzen sollte Nogger keine auswirkungen haben.Mal sehen werde mich mit dem Kurs die nächsten wochen überraschen lassen.
      P.S der Name ist rein Hypothetisch
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 21:02:02
      Beitrag Nr. 28 ()
      ein weiterer gedanke:

      was machen NG zZ eigentlich? Könnte auch sein, dass sie für neue Projekte Unterstützung von Investoren brauchen und die im Gegenzug die Abgabe ihrer Anteile gefordert haben ; sozusagen als Sicherheiten....

      Hat da vielleicht jemand nähere Infos zu???

      Gruß
      Barzer
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 21:04:46
      Beitrag Nr. 29 ()
      @ turbo , und pass auf ,dass du den zug nicht verpasst der heisst nämlich ICE :cool:
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 21:24:36
      Beitrag Nr. 30 ()
      Bin schon drin im ich hoffe ICE.9000 stück.Mal sehen ob noch ein wenig Geld dazu kommt.Heirate bald,wäre ein schönes Geschenk!
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 21:32:27
      Beitrag Nr. 31 ()
      @28&@all

      Diese Denkrichtung ist die Einzigste die für mich Sinn macht.

      Entweder haben NG dringend Kredite (Schieflagen u.ä.)zu bedienen oder eine Produktion ist vorzufinanzieren.


      Eine Überlegung zum Charakter der beiden:

      (Hinweise dazu auch in meinem Thread, weiter unten)

      Schon in der IEM war Ihnen der Bürobetrieb lästig, sie wollten eher zurück um sich geistig kreativ zu betätigen.
      Möglich also das Ihnen "Geld" relativ schnuppe ist.
      Vielleicht sind Sie selber so Kapitalkräftig, das es Ihnen gleich ist, ob Sie später 10 oder 20 mio mehr haben.

      Der Hinweis das Sie in anderen Kategorien denken ist also nicht schlecht....
      Wir sind alle nur Menschen!!!!!


      mfg

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      schrieb am 21.06.03 21:37:46
      Beitrag Nr. 32 ()
      aber sei vorsichtig ,E...de usw. man weiss nie:cry:

      ich wünsche dir eine super hochzeit mit allem was dazu gehört

      gruss peter
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      schrieb am 21.06.03 21:44:54
      Beitrag Nr. 33 ()
      @turbosex


      Dein Nick wir mir langsam klar.....

      :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

      Da hat auch das freudsche Phänomen, über den Hypothalamus Deine Großhirnrinde aktiviert. Unterbewußte Kräfte suchten einen Ausbruch und kompensierten sich in Deinem Nick.

      :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

      Trotzdem, viel Glück für Deine Beziehung.


      mfg

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      schrieb am 21.06.03 22:07:55
      Beitrag Nr. 34 ()
      @Lambo #1

      Gib mir bitte die Quelle für Angabe über die Anzahl.
      Bzw. Poste den Link im Thread mit meinem Nick.

      mfg

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      schrieb am 21.06.03 22:23:54
      Beitrag Nr. 35 ()
      Man weiß ja wie die Frauen so sind ,denn kann man nie und nimmer trauen.Noch mal danke an save für die Top analyse die ich über IM und T3 gelesen habe.das beste an research der letzten jahre
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      schrieb am 22.06.03 10:33:20
      Beitrag Nr. 36 ()
      so, am Montag überschreiten wir nachhaltig die 1,50 und bis Freitag sehen wir die 2 vor dem Komma!

      alberto :cool:
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      schrieb am 29.06.03 19:20:00
      Beitrag Nr. 37 ()
      up
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      schrieb am 29.06.03 21:13:56
      Beitrag Nr. 38 ()
      ups, da war ich wohl etwas zu voreilig...

      alberto :D :D :D
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      schrieb am 29.06.03 21:31:31
      Beitrag Nr. 39 ()
      ... meinte natürlich die kommende Woche - KW 27.

      alberto :cool: :cool: :cool:
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      schrieb am 29.06.03 22:03:41
      Beitrag Nr. 40 ()
      Hi Leute!

      Hier am Board wird ja mächtig Dampf gemacht für IEM! Das stört hier einige.
      Aber: Empfehlungen von sog. Analysten gab es noch nicht bezüglich T3. Das stimmt mich positiv!

      :D
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      schrieb am 30.06.03 08:50:32
      Beitrag Nr. 41 ()
      Vielleicht sind auch die Aktien der betreffenden Herren verliehen worden. der potentielle Leerverkäufer hatte jede Menge Gelegenheit, zu besseren Kursen zurückzukaufen. Ich bedauere, dass ich in der besten Zeit im Urlaub war(bei Kursen um 1 €). Jetzt habe ich einen Durchschnittskurs von 1,22 und erwarte um die 1,8 nach Start des T3.

      rk
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      schrieb am 30.06.03 09:31:13
      Beitrag Nr. 42 ()
      http://www.rottentomatoes.com/click/movie-1123632/reviews.ph…


      By Ross Anthony

      Since he`d written and directed the first two Terminators, I asked James Cameron his thoughts on T3. He quickly responded, "I`m not involved in T3." (Click here for that interview). He went on to say, "I`m just not that ... Ahhh, I mean, I told the story."

      Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines T2 being one of my all-time favorite movies, Cameron`s apparent disinterest in T3 certainly lowered my expectations of the film. A Terminator without Cameron (one of the best filmmakers of our time), I anticipated would by like Rocky without Sly Stallone.

      In this mindset, I sat down in the front row of the fabulous Arclight Theater at Sunset and Vine in Hollywood for the press screening. My only quip, "I don`t know if it`ll be good, but it`ll certainly be big." A few more of Cameron`s comments rolled in my head, "I mean, the reason here to make the film is to cash in on the success of the franchise. I think films should be made from an organic place of `I have a specific story to tell now I`m gonna figure out who`s ready to pay for that.`"

      The cinema darkens and T3 takes command of the screen with brazen confidence, finesse, strength, and humor. While T3 indulges in some contrivances and experiences some internal contradictions, it`s charging roller-coaster pace, seat-shaking special effects and dead-on sense of seriousness and humor clearly dominate.

      I was pleasantly surprised and duly impressed. Jonathan Mostow has taken good care of Cameron`s baby, showing both respect and homage to the characters and trends. The film roars out of the gates with absolutely thunderous chase scenes (that crane-truck sequence aptly deserves applause). Though the second half endures a slight decline in action/excitement, it still strongly engages.

      Not so complex, nor as sprawling as T2 (which I`d give an A+), T3 still tears up the screen and climaxes with a quietly daring conclusion.

      BTW, T1 - 1984. T2 - 1991. T3 - 2003.




      http://www.rottentomatoes.com/click/movie-1123632/reviews.ph…

      "Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines"

      Once again, the Terminator series proves its superior worth over competing action concepts with its emphasis on the human element and a higher level of plausibility. There`s also something inherently appealing about the clashing interests of an aging protective robot from the future and the latest, indestructible model out to destroy the good guys -- us!

      Immediately, one more closely identifies with this setup than with the mysterious, barely explainable binary world of "The Matrix" or with the alienated and endangered Mutants in "Xmen" or the wistful scientist with a genetic problem in "The Hulk".

      The world that T3 visits with his time machine is roughly today`s. John Connor (Nick Stahl) is on the run in order to remain hidden after losing his mother in 1991`s "T2: Judgment Day" where he learned that, in the future, after a cataclysmic world-destroying Judgement Day, he is destined to become the chosen leader of the human survivors. He (and we) also learned that the futuristic machines have been sent out by the rulers of the planet in 2029 to reshape their future by changing the past. Having eliminated Sarah Connor, that now means destoying her son John and all who would follow him.

      Failing in their prior attempt, a new assassin arrives to complete the job, with a list of unsuspecting people to wipe out. This is the virtually indestructible T-X machine which has chosen to emulate one of the dummies in the display window of the swank Rodeo Road store in which it arrives in the space-time machine. It therefore looks a whole lot like a classy blond (Kristanna Loken), hot enough to freeze a room and disarm the suspicious. Good ploy for the most advanced robot yet. The first demonstration of how she operates comes in the totally heartless way she acquires her first wardrobe outfit, sporty convertible car, and police-issue gun.

      As she (just too gorgeous to think of as an "it") proceeds to run her program with a series of mob style executions, her nemesis, older model robot T3 (Arnold Schwarzenegger) arrives on a remote hill, rusty and tarnished, naked to the skin, buff to the point of competition-winning muscle (with those massive pecs).

      In a visit to a male dance club, he displays the outright self assertion of a programmed machine, not possessed of the subtle ways and mores of polite human society. Here he acquires his wardrobe, and sets out in the pursuit of John Connor and his future mate Kate Brewster (Claire Danes) in order to carry out his mission of protection.

      This soon leads to a hook up between Connor, Brewster and T3. The coincidental factors in the meet are soon put to rest with the battering T3 takes in his clash with T-X as he attempts to protect his charges against her persistent fury. Before long, we are treated to a stunt chase whose originality gives the freeway scene in "The Matrix Reloaded" a run for its money. Employing what is touted as the largest truck-borne crane in America (per Arnold himself on Jay Leno) to wipe out everything in its path: cars, lampposts, street lights, whatever. The highlight is the crane arm decimation of a hi-tech building. Good show, and a weighty pat on the back for this bit of action one-upmanship.

      If all this makes an impression, I think the underlying factor is the way the machine relates to the humans. First, it`s a protector. Who can`t relate to that? We love this guy. Then, there`s his self-effacing quality. One of the film`s most distinguishing moments comes during a getaway run in Brewster`s truck. T3 at the wheel, he evokes what human empathy he can muster in explaining to Connor and Brewster what`s going on with the far superior T-X and why he`s at such a disadvantage. In a statement of bare facts, he informs them of its more advanced capabilities and why, in a matchup, he`s likely to be destroyed. "It`s more intelligent," he adds.

      This is the canny creative wisdom at the heart of the T series. It`s no accident that the protector cyborg, despite prodigious capabilities, is not up to spec. T2 came up against a different set of superiorities in the relentless shape-shifting T-1000 (Robert Patrick) coming after Connor (remember those scattered drops reforming themselves).

      It`s not just that T3 is designed to elicit our interest and sympathies -- all films go for that brass ring. But the people behind this particular franchise have a better understanding of what it takes to make us identify with the vulnability of our human counterparts.

      Why is it original and effective, even after 10 years? One ingredient is Schwarzenegger himself. Politics aside, there`s a consistency to his output, as though he exerts a storytelling influence on whomever it is he`s working with (admittedly with a few recent disappointments, like "End of Days" and "The Sixth Day"). To this date, one of my favorite movies, in the futuristic action vein, is "Total Recall." Ever the vulnerable man, never the superman, Mr. S seems to be as director-proof as his characters prove ultimately to be villain-proof. And, here, as T3, he looks as good as ever, all 55 years of him. It would be an inestimable loss to action cinema if he chooses to give it all up for a career in California politics, as he threatens to do.

      "Terminator 3" is paced well, blending the elements without a sense of narrative slowdown and with an appropriate balance of the themes. The battle between the T machines becoming a war between sexes is not lost as a fine stylistic choice, making visual fun out of big Arnold seemingly taking such disastrous wallops from so fine a femme as T-X appears to be. The lady is cold, alluring, and ruinous, with never a hair out of place or makeup smudged. Much praise to this New York model turned actress for her fine mechanistic radiance. As for acting prowess, she keeps us ever in mind of her character`s underlying chip-driven machinery.

      Nick Stahl does a pro job of taking over the reins from Edward Furlong with necessary strengths and weaknesses to make him identifiable and sympathetic as he leads us into the future. Claire Danes is a lovely choice for his future mate, and nicely fills the emotional element lost by the death of Connor`s mother.

      Under Jonathan Mostow`s direction, Don Burgess` cinematography is always up to the mark; Neil Travis and Nicolas De Toth`s editing equally seamless. Mostow is to be particularly commended for picking up the reins from concept creator James Cameron and delivering a sequel that preserves the qualities of its two predecessors -- a rare feat.

      The boldly supportive score is by Italian born Marco Beltrami ("Blade 2"), using 96 musicians and a 30-voice choir. (Track listing below).

      I surely can`t anticipate how all these futuristic action spectaculars are going to stack up at the boxoffice, but in terms of what`s deserving of appreciation, I give T3 my maximum nod, with Spiderman in close pursuit. For me, it`s the human element winning out over pure action dynamics.




      Sogar dieses schlechte Review hört sich eher in manchen Punkten begeisternd an ;)

      http://www.rottentomatoes.com/click/movie-1123632/reviews.ph…


      Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines C+

      Warner Bros.

      Year Released: 2003
      MPAA Rating: R
      Director: Jonathan Mostow
      Writers: John Brancato, Michael Ferris
      Cast: Arnold Schwarzenegger, Nick Stahl, Kristanna Loken, Claire Danes, David Andrews, Mark Famiglietti.

      Review by Rob Vaux

      Ask yourself right now: "What do I want out of Terminator 3?" The answer will have a direct bearing on how much you enjoy this movie. Those looking for a slam-bang summer adrenaline fix have nothing to fear. Director Jonathan Mostow has a knack for taut action, and despite advancing age, Arnold Schwarzenegger knows how to deliver on the role that defined his career. For those anticipating something more, however -- something closer to James Cameron`s iconic predecessors -- the third installment in the Terminator series is a decided letdown. The action lacks the depth or complexity of Cameron`s films, focusing too much on the pyrotechnics while ignoring the subtler elements. Cameron is a storyteller; Mostow is simply an efficient action director. The difference ultimately makes Terminator 3 the poor country cousin of the trilogy.

      On the plus side, there are much worse films to spend your time on these days. The basic Terminator scenario makes terrific popcorn fodder, and Mostow delivers some startling variations on the series` expected set pieces. Schwarzenegger tops a winning cast, the newcomers of whom make up for some absent faces. Nick Stahl, playing the future savior of mankind John Connor, has an appealing world-weary quality to him as he anticipates a coming Armageddon. Linda Hamilton (who played John`s mother Sarah) is sorely missed, but Claire Danes fills in admirably as veterinarian Kate Brewster, a naïve innocent whose hidden strengths emerge (like those of Hamilton`s ditzy waitress) when she`s shoved into the maelstrom.

      And the maelstrom packs a respectable wallop. Once again, the machines who rule the post-apocalyptic future have sent an unstoppable killer back in time to destroy their enemies-to-be. This time, the model is the T-X (Kristanna Loken), a requisite state-of-the art cyborg who can change form at will and whose chassis hides all kinds of scary surprises. She has a laundry list of targets, intended to engineer the machines` rise to power by triggering a world war, and Connor is again a top priority... along with Brewster, his future second in command. As before, a protector is sent back in time to keep them safe -- another version of Schwarzenegger`s ubiquitous T-800 -- only now, the newer models have rendered him hopelessly obsolete. To make matters worse, Judgement Day is nigh; the events of the second film only postponed the end, and by the time Arnold arrives, just a few short hours remain before the nascent machines trigger a global holocaust.

      Terminator 3`s drama centers on a "now or later" dilemma, which has a lot of potential. Does Connor risk everything to try and prevent the apocalypse, knowing that if he fails, he won`t be around to save the world that`s left? Or does he hide and wait, knowing that fate has decreed ultimate victory over the machines after the nukes have fallen? Play it safe and sacrifice billions, or go for broke and risk humanity`s extinction. It`s a juicy conundrum which Mostow unfortunately treats far too bloodlessly. Instead, we get a lot of things that go boom, which have the same ruthless efficiency as the Terminators themselves. Admittedly, the film hits its best notes here, with a series of chases and gunfights that Mostow unloads at a firecracker pace. The topper is a lengthy sequence involving a portable crane careening through LA, with T-X at the wheel and Arnold hanging precariously from the hook. Mostow`s technique is so sharp that we can`t help but be thrilled, despite some questionable effects and a few significant logical gaps. The robots themselves, from Stan Winston studios, are full of wondrous invention, and the script provides some clever jokes (many at Schwarzenegger`s good-humored expense, though one bears an uncomfortable homophobic tang) that keep the action from becoming too grim.

      As fun as all that is, however, it remains in the realm of the knee-jerk. Terminator 3 brings so much attention to its special effects that its logic and sense of direction start to falter. The internal continuity -- the Terminator mythos if you will -- is serviceable, but it skims too quickly over the details, and jibes awkwardly with the events of the first two films. The impact of the good guys` decisions are ultimately lost, and though the cast gives it their all, they`re never more than supercargo in a mechanical plot. Presumably, that`s the idea (this is a film about robots after all), but the lack of attention leaves the storyline hollow. Cameron, with his obsessive attention to detail, never would have let things slip the way they do here.

      The T-X herself is the most prominent example. Her gadgets and hardware are really cool -- with arms that can morph into devastating weapons and joint-popping flexibility that would put yoga masters to shame -- and Loken delivers the Terminator Skunk Eye™ with the requisite chilliness. But her character lacks the little touches that made both Schwarzenegger`s villainous original and Robert Patrick`s follow-up T-1000 so hard to forget. The script saddles her with too much to do -- besides killing Connor, she has a list of future lieutenants to slaughter, as well as helping the machines orchestrate their nuclear apocalypse -- which robs her of her predecessors` terrifying single-mindedness. Furthermore, Terminator 3 relies solely on the fact that she`s a woman (and the bells and whistles of the effects) to establish her character. It`s not enough. The most memorable thing about the T-1000 was not that he was made of liquid metal, but that he impersonated a cop... with all that that implied. The subtlety is lost on Terminator 3, leaving Loken to fill in the gaps with little more than a catwalk strut.

      Such are the risks involved in a film like this. As a part of a supremely well-regarded franchise, it demands a high level of quality in every arena, and average efforts just don`t cut it. Terminator 3 has what it takes to compete with the other blockbusters this summer, but its lack of humanity denies it any longevity. The first two films are classics. The third is just another carnival ride: fun perhaps, but ultimately disposable. Ten years from now, it will probably be a footnote, a vaguely competent afterthought to an otherwise superior legacy. Enjoy Terminator 3 while it lasts; this time, I don`t think it will be back.

      Review posted: 06.30.2003.



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      A Hero Will ‘Rise’"
      by Scott Mantz
      “Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines”
      Arnold Schwarzenegger, Claire Danes, Nick Stahl
      Directed by Jonathan Mostow
      He`s back...again! Nick Stahl and Claire Danes take cover behind Arnold Schwarzenegger in "Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines"

      For more than a decade, the prospect of seeing another “Terminator” movie was about as likely as hearing a new song by The Beatles. After the first two films grossed more than $550 million worldwide, writer-director James Cameron had a major falling out with “T2” producers Mario Kassar and Andrew Vajna and swore that he would never work with them again. Since Kassar and Vajna also owned the rights for a third film, it didn’t seem like it would ever happen without Cameron calling the shots.

      Well, if the mop-tops can get back to where they once belonged to finish two songs left behind by their former bandmate (as they did in 1995 for “The Beatles Anthology”), then why can’t Arnold Schwarzenegger do a new “Terminator” movie without the filmmaker who created the franchise? That’s what happened when Kassar and Vajna offered him almost $30 million to reprise his role and move forward without Cameron on “T3,” which was green-lit with a staggering budget of $170 million.

      Jonathan Mostow, the capable director behind potboilers like 1998’s “Breakdown” and 2000’s “U-571,” took over the reigns, and the results are (thankfully) a lot better than you’d expect given the circumstances. While “Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines” may not be as innovative as the first two films in terms of visionary wonderment, sheer emotional power and groundbreaking special effects, it is still an amazing film in its own right that serves as an excellent addition to the franchise.

      It’s been 10 years since John Connor (Nick Stahl) helped prevent Judgement Day—when technologically advanced machines threatened to take over the world. Despite surviving two attempts made on his life by machines from the future, Connor faces death once again when the advanced, curvaceous and beautiful T-X (Kristanna Loken) travels back in time to complete the job left undone by its predecessors. This time around, Connor’s future associates are also on the hit list, including Kate Brewster (Claire Danes), a veterinarian who suddenly finds herself in the middle of a fight to save humanity. Help arrives in the form of another futuristic cyborg (Arnold Schwarzenegger), but can they all act fast enough to prevent Judgement Day from happening once and for all?

      Where 1984’s “The Terminator” made Schwarzenegger a star and coined one of the best catch-phrases of all time (“I’ll be back!”), the second film, 1991’s “Terminator 2: Judgement Day,” was a groundbreaking hit that was (and still is) way ahead of its time. Budgeted at more than $90 million (a ridiculous amount of money back in 1991), the exciting, visionary action thriller broke new ground in digital effects—most of which are still impressive even by today’s standards.

      The advances made by “T2” have grown in leaps and bounds over the years (as evidenced by recent films like “The Matrix,” “The Lord of the Rings” and “Spider-Man”), but the effects in “T3”—as impressive as they are—don’t feel quite as groundbreaking as they did in 1991. On the other hand, the stunts and action pieces are an absolute thrill to behold, especially a high-speed truck chase on the back streets of Los Angeles that gives the freeway chase in “The Matrix Reloaded” a run for its money. It’s also exciting to see Schwarzenegger’s tough Terminator get the crap kicked out of it by a bodacious babe from the future who never so much as messes up a hair on her pretty little head.

      As thrilling as the action scenes are, it’s safe to say that “T3” covers much of the same ground that was covered in the second film. Once again, the Terminator bonds with the person he is programmed to protect, and in the process, he develops some human characteristics that are warm and humorous. There’s also the now-mandatory catchphrase, and it won’t be long before people start saying “talk to the hand!” as much as they said “hasta la vista, baby!” after the last film. Most importantly, the story once again examines the prospect of changing your destiny, but where the ending of “T2” was optimistic and hopeful, the ending of “T3” is much more downbeat and depressing.

      The whole prospect of making “T3” seemed like an act of desperation to revive Schwarzenegger’s career (his last three films—“End of Days,” “The Sixth Day” and “Collateral Damage”—all tanked at the box office), but there’s no doubt that it will put the 55-year-old icon back on top. What could easily have been an embarrassment is quite exciting and even funny at times, as Schwarzenegger looks better than ever and seems to be enjoying himself with one-liners that are even cornier than usual.

      Schwarzenegger may be the only holdover from the franchise, but the supporting characters are also very strong. Though he’s usually found in more independent fare (like 2001’s Best Picture-nominee “In the Bedroom”), Nick Stahl takes over the part of John Conner from “T2’s” Edward Furlong with more than adequate skill. Claire Danes also rises to the occasion after jumping on board the project at the last minute, and it’s fun to see her in a role that’s more physical than what she normally does.

      Even Kristanna Loken, who plays the menacing T-X who goes head-to-head with Schwarzenegger, comes off surprisingly well. She plays her advanced Terminator much like the way Robert Patrick played his T-1000 in “T2”—with very little dialogue and a non-expressive face—but she looks hot, so that’s an added bonus.

      Director Jonathan Mostow may have had the unenviable task of following in the footsteps of the self-imposed King of the World, but he deserves a lot of credit for delivering a film that will please fans and non-fans alike (and maybe even James Cameron himself). “Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines” may not be the best of the three, but it’s still a decent film in its own right. You know, kind of like how the two “new” Beatles songs were good, but not better than anything the fab four did in their heyday.



      Alles in allem hat er jedem weitgehendst gefallen, auch den mit den schlechten Kritiken waren in bestimmten Punkten begeistert...übrigens habe ich bisher nur postitive Reviews gelesen, mit einer Ausnahme, und der beschäftigte sich mit der Filmmusik.....er hätte wohl lieber wieder Gunsn Roses dafür verpflichtet...naja das ist eben Geschmackssache ;)
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      schrieb am 30.06.03 10:53:00
      Beitrag Nr. 43 ()
      Nur zur Info Hulk hat in 3660 Kinos gestartet!!!

      MfG

      Dr Doom
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      schrieb am 16.07.03 15:12:14
      Beitrag Nr. 44 ()
      Tja, jetzt sind die Schreier verstummt.

      rk
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      schrieb am 16.07.03 15:15:20
      Beitrag Nr. 45 ()
      nö, HEUTE ÜBER 1,70:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
      :confused:
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      schrieb am 16.07.03 16:15:32
      Beitrag Nr. 46 ()
      aber jetzt gehts erstmal unter die 1,60. bist du wirklich davon überzeugt, daß noch SK von 1,70 zustandekommt?

      Gruß e.1
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      schrieb am 16.07.03 16:21:27
      Beitrag Nr. 47 ()
      Ja, denn das sind Kurse zzum Wiedereinsteigen.

      T3 läuft international besser als letzte Woche noch gedacht. Die gesteckten Ziele werden erreicht. Nur uninfirmiert verkaufen noch.
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      schrieb am 16.07.03 16:24:21
      Beitrag Nr. 48 ()
      Ich bin "infirmiert" und kaufe deshalb N I C H T ! ;)
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      schrieb am 25.07.03 09:31:53
      Beitrag Nr. 49 ()
      jetzt sind es noch: 2660 :cry: -744:eek: :cry: :cry:


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