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      schrieb am 12.02.03 18:19:59
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      WHY AND WHEN TO DESTROY THE UNITED STATES
      The following interview was conducted by a reporter
      for the Al-Jazeera network with the third-in-command
      of the Al Queda organization, Mr. Mohammed Al-Asuquf.
      Al-Asuquf`s background is impressive; a doctorate in
      physics and masters in international economics. In the
      interview, he talks of Al Queda`s plans with total
      detachment, with deep knowledge and an unshakeable
      commitment to his cause. This interview was sent to
      Abel-Bari Atwan, chief editor of Al Quds, an
      Arabic-language newspaper published in London,
      but was never printed, due to its highly revealing
      [inflammatory?] contents.

      A copy of the interview came to Foz-do-Iguacu, and was
      translated into Portuguese by a university professor
      in the city`s Arab community. This is probably the
      only existing version of this interview not in Arabic.

      Al-Jazeera: What is the objective of the Al Queda
      network?

      Al-Asuquf: To destroy the Great Satan, that is, the
      United States and Israel.

      Al-Jazeera: Why?

      Al-Asuquf: The USA over the past 60 years has been
      impregnating [infecting] the world with its arrogance,
      greed and malfeasance. It is the incarnation of all
      that is evil. The people of this planet don`t deserve
      this torture.

      Al-Jazeera: Isn`t this view somewhat one-sided?

      Al-Asuquf: No; one only has to observe recent events.
      The disrespect of the Kyoto treaty; the case of the
      Permanent Court of International Justice, their
      inaction with regards to our Palestinian brothers; the
      financial greed and absurd speculations in Third World
      countries; the complete indifference to other
      oppressed people and countless other situations which
      all of the world`s leaders well know. And on top of
      all that, the Bush doctrine of "shoot first and ask
      questions later." This is an unacceptable abuse
      and will therefore have very grave consequences.

      Al-Jazeera: But the isn`t the development and
      influence of America the fruit of its own competence?

      Al-Asuquf: Competence in extortion, competence in
      subjugation, competence in lying. After the Second
      World War, the USA was the only industrialized country
      with its manufacturing infrastructure intact. Loaning
      money like a good loan shark, it ended up becoming a
      very rich and powerful country; however, its greed
      remained undiminished. Today, Americans live like
      maharajas [?], wasting more than any other people,
      spending more than $80 billion per year just on
      gambling. They`ve lost any notion of spirituality and
      live in constant sin. With each passing day the USA
      demonstrates that it doesn`t know how to live with
      other peoples; for this, it deserves destruction.

      Al-Jazeera: Wouldn`t it be easier to simply
      assassinate President George Bush?

      Al-Asuquf: In the first place, it would do no good,
      other than turning him into a martyr. When you face a
      powerful enemy, the best strategy is not to kill him,
      but to make him lose his leadership due to his
      incompetence, and let him live to watch this unfold.

      Al-Jazeera: Does the Al Queda network have the
      military capacity to make war on the United States?

      Al-Asuquf: If we analyze history, we will see that all
      great wars, before they were started, were based on
      previously established concepts [of war]. But if we
      observe well, we will see that these concepts and
      strategies came to nothing, since a new type of war
      was ultimately waged. An example is the construction
      of the Maginot line by the French before the First
      World War, which, in reality proved to be completely
      useless against the invading forces. Aircraft
      carriers, nuclear submarines, and spy satellites will
      be useless in the next war.

      Al-Jazeera: American authorities hold more than 1,000
      people suspected of terrorism since September 11th.
      Won`t this compromise Al Queda`s plans?

      Al-Asuquf: Of those imprisoned, perhaps 20 to 30
      percent belong to Al Queda. Moreover, they are from
      the second echelon. We have more than 500 members of
      the first echelon and 800 from the second, inside the
      United States.

      Al-Jazeera: What do you mean by first and second
      echelons?

      Al-Asuquf: In the first echelon are Al Queda members
      who have been in the United States for more than 10
      years, many married with children. They have detailed
      knowledge of our plans and are just waiting for a
      phone call. They are also known as "sleepers." Those
      of the second echelon have arrived in the last five
      years and have no idea of our plans.

      Al-Jazeera: Are even those who are married, with
      children, ready to die with their families?

      Al-Asuquf: Yes. All of them are ready to die. Long
      live September 11th.

      Al-Jazeera: What was September 11th to Al Queda`s
      overall plans?

      Al-Asuquf: As a general step, it was just the
      beginning. It was a way of calling the world`s
      attention to what is still to come.

      Al-Jazeera: How many members does Al Queda have?

      Al-Asuquf: In the first echelon, about 5,000; in the
      second, about 20,000, all over the world.

      Al-Jazeera: In the detention camp at Guantanamo, are
      there any members of the first echelon?

      Al-Asuquf: No, in fact, many of those there are not
      even Al Queda members.

      Al-Jazeera: How does Al Queda intend to destroy the
      most powerful nation in history?

      Al-Asuquf: It`s a question of logistics. Using its own
      poison, that is, attacking the heart of what they
      consider the most important thing in the world: money.

      Al-Jazeera: How so?

      Al-Asuquf: The American economy is an economy of false
      appearances. There is no real economic ballast to the
      American economy. The American GDP of is something
      around $10 trillion, of which just 1 percent
      represents agriculture, and just 24 percent represents
      industry. Therefore, 75 percent of the American GDP is
      service and most of this is financial speculation.
      For those who understand economics, and it appears
      that the American Secretary of the Treasury, Paul
      O`Neil, doesn`t or doesn`t see it, it`s
      enough to say that the USA acts like a huge "dot-com,"
      and dollars, strictly speaking, are its shares.

      Al-Jazeera: Can you explain that?

      Al-Asuquf: The value of a company`s shares is directly
      proportional to the profitability of the enterprise.
      When a business is just a service provider and doesn`t
      produce any durable goods, the value of its shares
      depends on its credibility. Which is to say that if
      the credibility of the USA
      were shaken, its shares (the dollar) would fall with
      incredible rapidity and the entire American economy
      would begin to collapse.

      Al-Jazeera: How can you be so sure of this?

      Al-Asuquf: On a smaller scale, it`s exactly what large
      financial groups do to the countries of the third
      world to reap profits in one month that Swiss banks
      couldn`t get in four or five years.

      Al-Jazeera: So how will Al Queda shock the American
      economy to this
      point?

      Al-Asuquf: By provoking a deficit of between $50 and
      $70 trillion dollars, the equivalent of the United
      States` GDP for five to seven years.

      Al-Jazeera: How will this be done?

      Al-Asuquf: With the destruction of the seven largest
      American cities, along with other measures.

      Al-Jazeera: By what means will this be done?

      Al-Asuquf: Using atomic bombs.

      Al-Jazeera: With all of the security in the USA, how,
      hypothetically, will these bombs be smuggled onto
      American soil?

      Al-Asuquf: They won`t be smuggled in, they`re already
      there.

      Al-Jazeera: What are you saying?

      Al-Asuquf: There are already seven nuclear devices on
      American soil which were put in place before September
      11th and are ready to be detonated.

      Al-Jazeera: How did they get in to the USA?

      Al-Asuquf: Before September 11, American security was
      a fiasco, and even after, were it necessary, we could
      manage to smuggle bombs into the United States. They
      entered through seaports, as normal cargo.

      Al-Jazeera: How is that possible?

      Al-Asuquf: A nuclear device is no bigger than a
      refrigerator; therefore, it can be easily camouflaged
      as one. Millions of cargo containers arrive in
      seaports each day, and no matter how efficient
      security is, it`s impossible to check, search through
      and examine each container.

      Al-Jazeera: Where did these atomic bombs come from?

      Al-Asuquf: They were purchased on the black market.

      Al-Jazeera: From whom?

      Al-Asuquf: We bought five from the defunct Soviet
      Union and two more from Pakistan.

      Al-Jazeera: How is it possible to buy an atomic bomb?
      Isn`t there security?

      Al-Asuquf: Before 1989 it was practically impossible,
      however after the fall of the Berlin Wall, the Russian
      army began a process of self destruction, and some
      high generals began to lose their privileges, and
      therefore, highly susceptible to corruption. Even
      General Lebeb, now deceased, and Hans Blix, the head
      of the arms inspection commission of the United
      Nations, have stated this, notwithstanding denials by
      Russian Defense Minister Seguey Ivanov.

      Al-Jazeera: How much does a nuclear bomb cost?

      Al-Asuquf: Somewhere around $200 million.

      Al-Jazeera: How did Al Queda get this money?

      Al-Asuquf: We have numerous sponsors.

      Al-Jazeera: Who are they?

      Al-Asuquf: There are a number of countries which
      support us, and also numerous wealthy individuals.

      Al-Jazeera: Are all of these countries Arab?

      Al-Asuquf: No, there are some European countries as
      well which have an interest in the fall of the USA.

      Al-Jazeera: Who are these wealthy individuals?

      Al-Asuquf: People who are also tired of watching the
      USA suck the wealth out of the rest of the world.

      Al-Jazeera: Is Saddam Hussein one of them?

      Al-Asuquf: You could say that he`s just one of the
      collaborators, through Abdul Tawab Mullah Hawaish, his
      vice-prime minister and the person responsible for
      Iraq`s arms program.

      Al-Jazeera: Are these atomic bombs powerful ones?

      Al-Asuquf: The five Russian devices are from the old
      T-3 missiles, also known as RD-107s, and their potency
      is something around 100 kilotons each, that is, 5
      times as powerful as the Hiroshima bomb. The Pakistani
      bombs are less powerful, somewhere around 10 kilotons.

      Al-Jazeera: Can`t the bombs be detected and disarmed
      by American authorities?

      Al-Asuquf: No, in spite of their age they`ve undergone
      modernization and are well hidden. Even if they were
      found, they have autodetonation provisions should
      anything get close to them. Even electromagnetic
      pulses would be incapable of deactivating them.

      Al-Jazeera: Don`t they emit radiation? Can`t they be
      detected?

      Al-Asuquf: No. They are wrapped in thick leaden cases.

      Al-Jazeera: A suspected Pakistani ship was recently
      searched and all that was found were lead bars. Does
      this have anything to do with the bombs?

      Al-Asuquf: Yes, however that lead was just an extra
      layer, and was not essentially necessary.

      Al-Jazeera: How will the bombs be detonated?

      Al-Asuquf: There are numerous methods, a cell-phone
      call, radio frequency, seismic shocks or by timer.

      Al-Jazeera: Once detonated, how many deaths will be
      caused by these bombs?

      Al-Asuquf: It depends, since our plans are very
      malleable.

      Al-Jazeera: So what is the entire plan?

      Al-Asuquf: The beginning will be the detonation of a
      nuclear device, which will cause the death of between
      800 thousand and one million people and create chaos
      on a scale never seen before. During this chaos, two
      or three cropsprayers that are now dismantled and
      stored in granaries [silos?] close
      to little-used highways in the countryside will take
      off on suicide missions to spray two or three large
      American cities with smallpox. That means that once
      the smallpox has been identified, all airports and
      seaports will be closed by quarantine. Land borders
      will likewise be shut down. Not one airplane, ship or
      vehicle will enter or leave the United States. This
      will cause total chaos. White House Press secretary
      Ari Fleischman will be very busy.

      Al-Jazeera: But the American government has guaranteed
      that within five days it could produce enough smallpox
      vaccine to inoculate the entire population.

      Al-Asuquf: There will be simultaneous suicide attacks
      against the vaccine production plants. Al-Jazeera:
      Which will be the first city?

      Al-Asuquf: The first city will be that in which
      optimal conditions present themselves, for example,
      clear skies, and winds of eight miles-per-hour or less
      in the direction of the country`s center so that
      radioactive dust can contaminate the maximum possible
      area.

      Al-Jazeera: Will this attack annihilate the USA?

      Al-Asuquf: No. But the process will have begun. Who
      will buy food products from the United States knowing
      they may have been contaminated by radiation? Who will
      travel to the United States knowing the possibility of
      contracting smallpox? Who will continue to invest in
      American institutions? Just as with
      the World Trade Center, it will be simply a question
      of time before the entire economic structure collapses
      and turns to dust. If our objectives are reached with
      one bomb and the smallpox, probably we`ll save the
      lives of others, however that`s risky [unlikely?], and
      it`s probable that six
      more bombs will be detonated, one per week, and other
      attacks with chemical weapons will be carried out.

      Al-Jazeera: How many innocent people will die?

      Al-Asuquf: According to estimates made by me and Ayman
      Al-Zawahiro, somewhere around 15 million due to the
      atomic bombs and their radiation. Of those exposed to
      smallpox, 25 percent will die, approximately five
      million, and many more due to the ensuing chaos and
      disorder.

      Al-Jazeera: What about the American military response?

      Al-Asuquf: There will practically be none. Even if
      five or ten cities were chosen at random to be
      destroyed, that would still be a small price to pay.
      The problem is the economic despair will be so great
      that even economizing by not using arms unnecessarily
      will occur, since the liquidity of American
      goods will be almost zero and at that point the United
      States will make more selling its Nimitz-class
      aircraft carriers, which cost about five billion
      dollars, to Turkey or Italy for one billion dollars,
      since the country will so urgently need to
      recapitalize, though it will be too late. Moreover,
      how
      will the morale of American soldiers be knowing that
      their entire families have died and their country no
      longer exists. Fight for what?

      Al-Jazeera: And won`t the global economy also be
      ruined?

      Al-Asuquf: In the beginning it will be very difficult;
      a serious economic crisis will ensue. However, without
      the United States, the world will soon arise in a more
      just and fraternal manner.

      Al-Jazeera: And Israel?

      Al-Asuquf: As they say... it will be dessert.

      Al-Jazeera: Does bin Laden`s spokesman, Sulaiman Abu
      Gheith, know that you are giving this interview?

      Al-Asuquf: It was he and bin Laden who suggested I
      give it.

      Al-Jazeera: Osama bin Laden is still alive?

      Al-Asuquf: He is quite healthy, alongside his
      commanders Mohammed Atef and Khalid Shaik Mohammed and
      Mullah Omar.

      Al-Jazeera: Aren`t you fearful that Al Queda`s plans
      will be discovered?

      Al-Asuquf: The plan is already in its countdown, and
      nothing can stop it.

      Al-Jazeera: Not even if the United States asks
      forgiveness and changes its attitudes?

      Al-Asuquf: That won`t happen, and even if it did, it`s
      too late.

      Al-Jazeera: When will the attack begin?

      Al-Asuquf: I can`t reveal that. Allah Akba...
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      schrieb am 12.02.03 18:43:06
      Beitrag Nr. 2 ()
      Das hoert sich ja nicht so gut an.
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      schrieb am 12.02.03 18:55:14
      Beitrag Nr. 3 ()
      Entscheidend ist dieser Satz , wie ich meine:

      Al-Jazeera: Are all of these countries Arab?

      Al-Asuquf: No, there are some European countries as
      well which have an interest in the fall of the USA.


      Da sieht man, wo die tolle Antikriegspolitk - Krieg um keinen Preis - hinfuehrt...

      Noch eines: An example is the construction
      of the Maginot line by the French before the First
      World War, which, in reality proved to be completely
      useless against the invading forces. Aircraft
      carriers, nuclear submarines, and spy satellites will
      be useless in the next war.

      Vergleicht dieser Hansdampf allen ernstes die Maginot Anlagen mit einer Nuzklearwaffe ? Satellieten werden nutzlos ? Hmm - back to the roots - mit Rauchzeichen und Falken...Ferner wurde diese Anlage erst 1932 fertig gestellt.......
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      schrieb am 12.02.03 18:56:04
      Beitrag Nr. 4 ()
      Ja genau, bin mir aber leider nicht im Klaren, (authentisch oder nicht)was ich davon halten soll.
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      schrieb am 12.02.03 19:01:13
      Beitrag Nr. 5 ()
      Hmmm Quelle waere schon interessant, da ich mit den beiden Namen absolut nix anfangen kann und mal behaupte, dass ich mit etwas mit der Materie auskenne - zumindest die Buecher, die hier so rumliegen )

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      schrieb am 12.02.03 19:20:51
      Beitrag Nr. 6 ()
      Damit kann ich leider auch nicht dienen.
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      schrieb am 12.02.03 19:32:33
      Beitrag Nr. 7 ()
      :eek: aber ist dieses Interview überhaupt authentisch? ich kann dieser Geschichte mit den geschmuggelten Atombomben nicht so recht glauben...
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      schrieb am 12.02.03 20:28:24
      Beitrag Nr. 8 ()
      was soll denn da fuer eine Qeulle kommen? Die Quelle ist entweder Al Jazeera oder nicht, ist doch offensichtlich.
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      schrieb am 12.02.03 22:17:33
      Beitrag Nr. 9 ()
      # 1

      ich halte es für absolut denkbar, dass sie vor dem 11.9.
      an nuklearwaffen kommen konnten.

      mich beschäftigt nicht mal so sehr, ob o.g. text echt ist oder nicht...

      ich sag`s mal so:

      der textinhalt hat eine verdammte i n n e r e logik -das allein beunruhigt mich schon ! :mad:


      kernüberlegung: es wurde kein krankenhaus, cafe, marktplatz als ziel gewählt, sondern das " WTC"

      aus o.g. text geht hervor: ..jeder gr. krieg ist bis ins detail geplant; incl. der folgen...

      bin laden, wusste, dass amis afghanistan bombadieren, die
      "cia- p e n n e r" langsam aber sicher wacher werden,
      die sicherheitskräfte auf der ganzen welt in alarmbereitschaft sein werden... (war für ihn klar voraussehbar)

      also musste er "militärisches potential" (overkill?) bereits vorher in "position gebracht haben!! :mad:

      eine kriegerische ersthandlung führt zu einer
      "s t e i g e r u n g" -nicht umgekehrt !!:mad:

      wer einen solchen schlag wie "wtc" durchführen konnte, dem
      ist o.g. szenario durchaus zuzutrauen, u. das folgende
      muss dann schon in den usa vorbereitet sein

      das wäre ein

      blowback

      jenseits aller vorstellungskraft -die zerstörung des kompletten wirtschafts -u. finanzsystems: das ende der usa


      cu
      rightnow
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      schrieb am 12.02.03 22:21:34
      Beitrag Nr. 10 ()
      Al-Jazeera ist der bedeutenste Nachrichtensender im Nahen Osten.
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      schrieb am 12.02.03 22:30:10
      Beitrag Nr. 11 ()
      Hi ich kenne das Interview(Hoax), ist anfang November 02 aufgetaucht. Veröffentlicht wurde es von der Asia Times, die immer noch behauptet, es aus einer stets verlässlichen Quelle zu haben.

      Es gab Mitte Nov. sogar eine Terrorwarnung der Usa die von spektakulärsten Angriffen mit MVW warnte, jedoch ist bis heute nichts passiert und das Interview, dessen Echtheit Al Jazzera abstreitet, ist in der Sektion Hoax auf einer Us Website gelandet. Der Mann der dieses Interview? angeblich gab, ist bislang unbekannt.

      Die Folgen bei Echtheit und Glaubhaftigkeit wären allerdings unbeschreiblich für die ganze Welt, daher und wegen den ungklärten Umständen geistert es gerade jetzt vermehrt im Netz herum.

      Grüsse

      Leono
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      schrieb am 12.02.03 22:41:36
      Beitrag Nr. 12 ()
      leute,

      was mich rasend macht #1 die "strategie" ist eigentlich so
      "simpel", dass es weh tut -aua!!!:mad:

      ich habe mich in letzter zeit verstärkt mit dem iran - irakkrieg in den `80 jahren beschäftigt, u. das erschreckende, was förmlich in die augen springt ist:

      - fatale fehleinschätzungen der regierenden; sie wussten nicht einmal wo sich die 3,5 divisionen !!!! saddams nach
      beginn ihrer bombadierungen befinden :confused:

      - cia hat über jahre stümperhafte "aufstände" ohne ende
      "versucht" = pleiten am laufenden band

      - völlig falsche einschätzung der lage vor ort



      - die angebliche totale militärische überlegenheit der usa durch ihre hightech-waffen (einbildung=überschätzung,
      arroganz...)


      usa aufpassen: " wer ......... s ä t wird
      s t u r m !!! ernten ..."



      cu
      rightnow


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