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      schrieb am 21.07.04 20:01:33
      Beitrag Nr. 1.420 ()
      @ aoest

      noch ist internet nicht ganz so wie es mir wünsche, aber es wird:D

      paul
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      schrieb am 21.07.04 20:00:40
      Beitrag Nr. 1.419 ()
      @hk75

      kannst du morgen ein posting verfassen, wie man laut deiner bank die cmkx aktien zertifizieren muss.

      thanx
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      schrieb am 21.07.04 19:59:29
      Beitrag Nr. 1.418 ()
      @flipside


      du behältst deine 6 mio. aktie

      kriegst zusätzlich ucad aktien und cim aktien.



      viel besser, als du dachtest.:D
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      schrieb am 21.07.04 19:57:03
      Beitrag Nr. 1.417 ()
      für unseren powertrader:

      amex-listing -> bitte mal #3 reinziehen und endlich klappe halten

      Listing Standards for U.S. Companies
      The American Stock Exchange has established certain quantitative and qualitative standards for the initial listing of U.S. companies.

      Quantitative Standards
      Standard 1

      Shareholders` equity $4 million
      Pre-tax income $750,000 in last fiscal year or in two of the last three fiscal years
      Distribution1 800 public shareholders and 500,000 shares publicly held
      OR
      400 public shareholders and 1 million shares publicly held
      OR
      400 public shareholders, 500,000 shares publicly held, and average daily trading volume of 2,000 shares for previous 6 months
      Price $3
      Market value public float $3 million


      Standard 2

      Shareholders` equity $4 million
      History of operations 2 years
      Distribution1 800 public shareholders and 500,000 shares publicly held
      OR
      400 public shareholders and 1 million shares publicly held
      OR
      400 public shareholders, 500,000 shares publicly held, and average daily trading volume of 2,000 shares for previous 6 months
      Price $3
      Market value public float $15 million


      Standard 3

      Shareholders` equity $4 million
      Total market capitalization $50 million
      Distribution1 800 public shareholders and 500,000 shares publicly held
      OR
      400 public shareholders and 1 million shares publicly held
      OR
      400 public shareholders, 500,000 shares publicly held, and average daily trading volume of 2,000 shares for previous 6 months
      Market value public float $15 million



      Standard 4

      Total market capitalization $75 million
      OR
      total assets and revenue of $75 million each (in most recent fiscal year or 2 of last 3 fiscal years)
      Distribution1 800 public shareholders and 500,000 shares publicly held
      OR
      400 public shareholders and 1 million shares publicly held
      OR
      400 public shareholders, 500,000 shares publicly held, and average daily trading volume of 2,000 shares for previous 6 months
      Price $3
      Market value public float $20 million



      1 Public shareholders and public float do not include shareholders or shares held directly or indirectly by any officer, director, controlling shareholder, or other concentrated (10 percent or greater) affiliated or family holdings.


      Qualitative Standards
      In evaluating listing eligibility, the Exchange also considers qualitative factors such as the nature of a company`s business, market for its products, reputation of its management, historical record and pattern of growth, financial integrity, demonstrated earnings power, and future outlook.


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      Listing Standards for Foreign Companies
      The American Stock Exchange has established certain quantitative and qualitative standards for the initial listing of foreign companies.

      Quantitative Standards
      Standard 1

      Shareholders` equity $4 million
      Pre-tax income $750,000 in last fiscal year or in two of the last three fiscal years
      Distribution1 800 public shareholders and 500,000 shares publicly held
      OR
      400 public shareholders and 1 million shares publicly held
      OR
      400 public shareholders, 500,000 shares publicly held, and average daily trading volume of 2,000 shares for previous 6 months
      Price $3
      Market value public float $3 million


      Standard 2

      Shareholders` equity $4 million
      History of operations 2 years
      Distribution1 800 public shareholders and 500,000 shares publicly held
      OR
      400 public shareholders and 1 million shares publicly held
      OR
      400 public shareholders, 500,000 shares publicly held, and average daily trading volume of 2,000 shares for previous 6 months
      Price $3
      Market value public float $15 million


      Standard 3

      Shareholders` equity $4 million
      Total market capitalization $50 million
      Distribution1 800 public shareholders and 500,000 shares publicly held
      OR
      400 public shareholders and 1 million shares publicly held
      OR
      400 public shareholders, 500,000 shares publicly held, and average daily trading volume of 2,000 shares for previous 6 months
      Market value public float $15 million



      Standard 4

      Total market capitalization $75 million
      OR
      total assets and revenue of $75 million each (in most recent fiscal year or 2 of last 3 fiscal years)
      Distribution1 800 public shareholders and 500,000 shares publicly held
      OR
      400 public shareholders and 1 million shares publicly held
      OR
      400 public shareholders, 500,000 shares publicly held, and average daily trading volume of 2,000 shares for previous 6 months
      Price $3
      Market value public float $20 million



      1 Public shareholders and public float do not include shareholders or shares held directly or indirectly by any officer, director, controlling shareholder or other concentrated (10 percent or greater) affiliated or family holdings.

      Qualitative Standards
      In evaluating listing eligibility, the Exchange also considers qualitative factors such as the nature of a company`s business, market for its products, reputation of its management, historical record and pattern of growth, financial integrity, demonstrated earnings power, and future outlook.

      The Exchange also considers the laws, customs and practices of the applicant`s country of domicile regarding matters such as the election and composition of the board of directors, issuance of quarterly earning statements, shareholder approval requirements, and quorum requirements.

      Corporate Governance Standards
      The American Stock Exchange requires listed companies to adhere to its corporate governance standards. Questions should be directed to the Listing Qualifications department at 212-306-1331. For newly enhanced rules click on Enhanced Corporate Governance.

      Conflicts of Interest
      The Exchange requires a listed company to utilize its audit committee to conduct an appropriate review of all related party transactions on an ongoing basis.

      Independent Directors and Audit Committee The Exchange has various requirements regarding a company`s independent directors and audit committee. Any domestic issuer applying for listing on the Amex must be prepared to demonstrate compliance with these requirements and ongoing compliance is also required for listed companies.

      servus paul
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      schrieb am 21.07.04 19:55:38
      Beitrag Nr. 1.416 ()
      @ all !!!

      Alle Beiträge die urseline über cmkm gepostet hat entsprechen der Wahrheit!


      Mench Leute denkt doch mal nach!!!!

      UCAD fängt langsam an CMKM aufzukaufen!!!!
      Darüber hinaus hat Ucad noch einige hoch interessante Joint ventures!!!

      Wir bekommen eine Dividende!!!(Höhe der Dividende hängt vom O/S ab!Ich glaube , dass wir minimum 100Ucad Aktien pro
      1Mio CMKM erhalten!Im bestem Fall 300UCAD Aktien!
      Das wiederum heißt,wenn UCAD steigt,erhalten wir auch eine höhere Dividende!
      Dazu erhalten wir auch noch CIM Aktien,sind aber noch nicht handelbar!
      Wie Urseline schon sagte,diese CIM Aktien bekommen wir ins Depot gebucht!Stückzahlen hängen hier auch wiederum vom O/S ab!Allerdings sind diese CIM Aktien noch wertlos,weil sie nicht gehandelt werden!Da kann man momentan nur spekulieren!Ich glaube aber ,dass sie minimum 2US$-7US$gehandelt werden.Nur meine Meinung!

      Wer bis zum 21.08.04 noch CMKM Aktien ordert erhält auch noch eine Dividende in Form von Ucad Aktien!Und zusätlich am 31.08.04 CIM AKTIEN!
      Aber attention!CMKM Aktien sollten im günstigstem falle eine Woche vorher im Depot eingebucht sein!

      Und zusetzlich kann ich jedem nur empfehlen,urseline sagte es scho einmal,lasst eure CMKM Aktien CERTFIZIEREN,bei eurer Bank! Ich erkundige mich morgen bei meiner Bank!
      Begründung hierfür,die MM`s können dann nicht darauf zurückgreifen!

      Leute ich beschäftige mich auch schon lange mit CMKM, aber ich bin halt nicht so gut wie urseline!Mir fehlt sie!Morgen weiß ich mehr!

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      schrieb am 21.07.04 19:49:22
      Beitrag Nr. 1.415 ()
      hallo paul

      schön Dich hier zu sehen, hab Dir ne private email gebeamt
      zum sofortigen lesen bestimmt! Sehr gut daß dein Internet wieder geht.

      A
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      schrieb am 21.07.04 19:38:31
      Beitrag Nr. 1.414 ()
      nabend nochmal...

      bitte klär mich doch mal einer über die cim-cmkx relation am 31.08. auf.....bekomm ich dann einfach statt der von mir gehaltenen 6mio cmkxaktien die gleiche anzahl oder in relation zum cmkxaktien-wert cim-aktien oder wie läuft die ganze aktion ab?


      würd eigentlich lieber cmkx aktien behalten statt cim zu bekommen....

      wäre sehr dankbar für info, auch wenn urseline das hauptthema sein mag.....:look:;)
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      schrieb am 21.07.04 19:31:02
      Beitrag Nr. 1.413 ()
      @ cariocca !!!

      #1370

      Das glaube ich ganz bestimmt nicht!
      Denn ich habe heute telefonisch,wie auch per Fax eine Beschwerde gegen rumpel bei W/O eingereicht!

      Tele Geschäftsleitung W/O 030 20456-420 !

      Und ihr solltet das auch tun, wenn euch was dran liegt!


      Dort werde ich morgen erneut anrufen, und anfragen warum urseline gesperrt wurde, ganz bestimmt!
      Denn das kann es einfach nicht sein.Urseline du kannst auf mich zählen!!!;)

      Und neben bei du rumpel versuch mir erst garnicht zu schreiben! Habe dich auf ignorieren gestellt(Boardmail ebenfalls!) Auf dich kann ich getroßt verzichten :laugh:

      Übrings solltet ihr das alle so machen! Im Userzentrum unter Freunde könnt ihr Rupel sperren macht es einfach, dann haben wir Ruhe!
      Was urseline angeht , ich fände es nicht gerecht wenn sie gesperrt wurde.

      Also ich zähl auf euch!
      Wir brauchen urseline und Oski;)
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      schrieb am 21.07.04 19:29:59
      Beitrag Nr. 1.412 ()
      @ fredenbecker

      rumpel ist willkommen -> nur kann ich nicht verstehen, wie ein powertrader von so einem kaliber nicht weiss, dass für ein amexlisting nicht die ominösen 3$ über 30 tage oder seine genannten 5$ von belang sind -> außerdem wurde es hier gepostet, dann soll er sich die mühe machen und den thread durchlesen!!!

      über die bemerkung mit dem registrieren lassen der aktien -> wo herr powertrader ein mitleidiges smily für übrig hatte: hier auf english ein beitrag der dies unterstreicht, dass es nicht so unsinnig ist

      aber herr powertrader weiss ja alles besser und hantiert hier mit halbwissen rum:

      When the shares are maintained and held in a Brokerage firm account then the shares are all kept in the "Street Name" or the brokerage firm name.

      Explained:
      Share holders that have their shares exclusively in Ameritrade will find that their shares are in the "Street Name" of Ameritrade and the company and Transfer Agent recognizes that Ameritrade has XXXX amount of shares, but the individual is unknown except to the brokerage firm. The brokerage firm carries the responsibility then to guarantee and RECORD your position in CMKX out of the XXXXX amount of Street Name Shares it has in its possession from CMKX.

      The dividend works the same way and the actual dividend payments will be made to the brokerage firm that have XXXXX amount of shares in its "Street Name" and if things don`t settle for an investor client on the dividend settling date then it is the brokerage firm that will have to answer first.

      I believe all will be settled by the brokerage firms and MM`s, but I cannot guarantee that it will be settled and no one else can either, only time will tell. You as an investor need to do what you believe is best for you and your position. There are different options to holding your securities you may want to consider.

      As an investor, you have up to three choices when it comes to holding your securities:

      Physical Certificate — When you own the physical certificate for your CMKX stock it is registered in your name on the issuer`s books whether it is the company, a Transfer Agent, or brokerage firm and you receive an actual printed stock certificate representing your ownership of the CMKX shares.

      "Street Name" Registration — Your CMKX shares are said to be held in “Street Name” when your CMKX shares are registered in the name of your brokerage firm (the brokerage firm is the “Street” for all investor clients in their brokerage firm creating the metaphor as being for all clients that live on that “Street”) on the issuer`s books, and your brokerage firm holds the CMKX shares for you in "book-entry" form. "Book-entry" simply means that you do not receive a physical certificate for your CMKX shares but instead your broker keeps a record in its books that you own a specific amount of CMKX shares.

      "Direct" Registration — Another form of holding for your CMKX shares is what is referred to as “Direct Registration”. You can choose to have your CMKX shares registered in your name on the issuer`s books, but permitting either the company or its transfer agent to hold all CMKX shares for you in book-entry form. One benefit of this is that "Direct Registration" can allow you to transfer your CMKX shares that you hold to another investor.


      There are some advantages to having your certificates
      of CMKX:

      The advantages of holding an actual certificate include:

      1. CMKX knows exactly how to reach you and will be able to send all company reports and other information to you directly without you waiting for the information to trickle down through other sources. This also insures the validity of the information to you.

      2. If you need some extra money and decide to go to the Bank or Loan Company you will probably find it a lot easier to offer your securities as collateral for a loan if you are holding the actual certificates yourself in physical certificate form and can present them at the time of the Loan processing.

      3. If you plan on holding long on CMKX or any other security, certificates make this easier because of the time and steps necessary to get them back into the market.

      4. If a naked short sell position is affecting the security (such as CMKX) this will secure your holdings in the company in case of a failure of the market makers to deliver or the brokerage firms to complete the naked short sell and fail delivery on your security!

      5. This will also insure that you are directly paid any dividend that is issued by the company.

      The disadvantages include:

      1. One of the most obvious drawbacks to holding the physical certificate for your CMKX stock is when you want to sell your stock. If the price gets right for you to sell it could pass before you can get in a position to sell. Why? Simply put, you will have to send the actual certificate to your broker or the company`s transfer agent and it has to go through their channels before you can actually execute the sale. This may make it impossible for you to sell your position quickly if you need a fast out for the process can take a few days to several weeks to accomplish. It has been reported to me by at least one individual that the transaction for him was completed in hours.

      2. If for some unseen reason you happen to lose your certificate, whether it is never received in the mail, destroyed by fire, water, stolen, or simply misplaced or lost you may be charged a fee for a replacement certificate. Although if the lost or stolen certificate is reported quickly there is a chance there may be no fee at all.

      3. A not so difficult downside although needing to be mentioned is the fact that if you happen to be doing well, buy a new house and move, then you will have to contact the company with your change of address so that you do not miss any important information they may be trying to mail to you. This is not updated automatically and you will have to contact them to update the current address information.

      It is fair to say many investors do not like the idea of having certificates in a volatile penny stock such as CMKX, but I don`t see CMKX in that light. It would be difficult to hold bertificates if the company werea shell company and could spike, sell, and leave as quickly as it came, but CMKX is not that kind of animal.

      Personally I have both Physical Certificates and Street Name registration held shares with Ameritrade. I feel completely confident in Ameritrades ability to protect my interest after many hours of communications with them and some DD on their company. I do not recommend Certs unless it is your personal choice, but I do not condemn them either. Our CMKX situation has many in a circumstance where the broker may be guaranteeing your dividend on UCAD and CIM shares. If you are comfortable with that, as I am with Ameritrade then you are well. If you feel you need more guarantee then it could be that certificates may be a viable option for you at least in the short term.

      kritik ja, dann aber auch von anderen ruhig mal ein rat annehmen und nicht den selbstherrlichen powertrader spielen und womöglich anderen noch sein halbwissen aufdrängen

      -> mir ist es egal, bin nicht auf wo angewiesen, andere unerfahrende bösianer schon.

      was solls, ist mir wurscht, macht was ihr wollt

      paul
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      schrieb am 21.07.04 19:28:20
      Beitrag Nr. 1.411 ()
      Das mit ursel und dem Wein ist schon interessant zu beobachten.

      Wenn sie sagt, "ich habe ein wenig zu viel Sangria intus", dann merkt man das schon an der deftigeren Ausdrucksweise.
      Eine Stunde später ist die Diktion dann oft noch viel heftiger. Grund? ;)

      Dennoch: Wenn uns ursel wieder hier ist, werde ich mit einem Spätburgunder mit ihr anstoßen!

      *pling*

      Michi
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