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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 73.753.421 von M83 am 28.04.23 14:27:52

Zitat von M83: Andere Anleihe der gleichen Ratingkkasse selbes Problem?

Nein. Scheint ein individuelles Problem zu sein...

[M83]

Andere Anleihe der gleichen Ratingkkasse selbes Problem?

[M83]

Nichts gefunden zu united Internet oder Morgan Stanley infrastructure. Das einzige, die Jahreszahlen lassen auf sich warten. Letztes Jahr kamen sie Mitte April. Aber der Aktienkurs macht nicht viel

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63 zu 69. Es macht tatsächlich etwas nachdenklich. Umsatz zu den Preisen bislang nichts. Allerdings muss die Taxe irgendwo herkommen. Evtl ist außerbörslich irgendwas gelaufen? Gibt es irgendwo Probleme bei einem Kublai-Teilhaber?

[M83]

Anleihe rauscht runter Brief 67,5 Geld 65

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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 73.742.786 von Aktienduffy am 27.04.23 10:26:49

danke dafür! Wo bekommt man die her?

[Aktienduffy]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 73.742.711 von M83 am 27.04.23 10:18:33

doch kenne ich großteils und da sehe ich extrem viele fondsgesellschaften= treuhänder und nicht Morgan Stanley Mauschler....

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ALLIANZ SE -- 200
PACIFIC INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT CO Multiple Portfolios 200
PIMCO FUNDS GLOBAL INVESTORS Multiple Portfolios 200
PIMCO FUNDS GLOBAL INVESTORS PIMCO IRELAND UCITS ETF 200
PUTNAM INVESTMENTS LLC Multiple Portfolios 125
PUTNAM INVESTMENTS IRELAND LTD Multiple Portfolios 125
PUTNAM INVESTMENTS IRELAND LTD PUTNAM WORLD TRUST - EUROPEAN HIGH YIELD FUND 125
AXXION SA Multiple Portfolios 120
AXXION SA CHARISMA SICAV - AHM DACH 120
SVENSKA HANDELSBANKEN -- 100
HANDELSINVEST INVESTERINGSFORVAL Multiple Portfolios 100
HANDELSINVEST INVESTERINGSFORVAL Investeringsforeningen Handelsinvest - Afdeling 100
VAN ECK ASSOCIATES CORPORATION Multiple Portfolios 100
VAN ECK ASSOCIATES CORP Multiple Portfolios 100
VAN ECK ASSOCIATES CORP VANECK VECTORS INTERNATIONAL HIGH YIELD BOND ET 100
UBS ASSET MANAGEMENT HOLDING LTD Multiple Portfolios 100
UBS ASSET MANAGEMENT HOLDING LTD UBS Global Strategic Bond Fund 100
BANK OF NEW YORK MELLON CORP/THE -- 100
BANK OF NEW YORK MELLON CORP Multiple Portfolios 100
BNY MELLON GLOBAL MANAGEMENT LTD Multiple Portfolios 100
BNY MELLON GLOBAL MANAGEMENT LTD BNY Mellon Global Funds PLC - Bny Mellon Effici 100
WARBURG INVEST KAPITALANLAGEGES -- 100
WARBURG INVEST KAG SA Multiple Portfolios 100
WARBURG INVEST KAG SA AES RENDITE SELEKT 100
FINECO ASSET MANAGEMENT DAC Multiple Portfolios 100
FINECO ASSET MANAGEMENT DAC Fineco AM MSCI EUR HY SRI Sustainable Corporate 100

[M83]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 73.742.234 von Aktienduffy am 27.04.23 09:39:33

sag niemals nie du kennst die anderen Bondholder nicht und in welcher Beziehung sie zu Morgan Stanley stehen und welche Gesamtinteressen sie verfolgen.

[Aktienduffy]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 73.741.742 von M83 am 27.04.23 08:52:42

was verstehst du an einer besicherung nicht? kein bondholder wird da zu irgendwas zustimmen, weil ihm die assets sowieso gehören

[M83]

und wenn wie Moody's vermutet Mitte 2023 die Refinanzierung der 2024 Schulden gemacht wird, hat sich das ganze Gedankenspiel sowieso erledigt. Dann steigt das Rating und die Anleihe steht bei >90%