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      schrieb am 20.04.01 14:14:11
      Beitrag Nr. 1 ()
      Hi,

      ist diese Aktie nicht wirklich billig, ich finde schon !

      Zahlen für 2000 ... 1,2 Mrd DM Umsatz, 30 Mio Ebit, 60 Mio Ebitda !

      2001 wird noch besser, aber der Hammer wird 2002, auch weil dann das Geschäftsjahr umgestellt wird und das stärkste Quartal gleich zu anfang stattfindet
      ( WEIHNACHTSGESCHÄFT ). EDEL wird überzeugen, STRONG BUY !



      Kursziel mind. 7 Euro und dann in Richtung 10-12 Euro ...

      MfG

      Kurstänzer
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      schrieb am 20.04.01 14:15:52
      Beitrag Nr. 2 ()
      Leute, noch könnt Ihr dabei sein zu 4,30 Euro, kämpfen aktuell mit der GD 38. Unterstützt wird die Aktie mittlerweile durch die GD 13 und einem Longterm Kaufsignal und dem VolumeBalance ...
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      schrieb am 20.04.01 14:16:31
      Beitrag Nr. 3 ()
      18.04.2001
      Edel Music Kursziel 7 Euro
      LB Sachsen


      Das Full-Service-Musikunternehmen Edel Music (WKN 564950) wird seit dem 2.9.1998 am Neuen Markt gehandelt, berichten die Analysten der Sachsen LB.

      Es decke von der Entdeckung neuer Stars über die CD-Produktion bis hin zur Vermarktung weite Bereiche der Musikindustrie ab. Der mit dem überraschend gut abgeschlossenem Jahr 2000 begonnene Aufwärtstrend werde sich auch 2001 fortsetzen. Konsequente Kosteneinsparungen und eine Gewinn-vor-Wachstum-Strategie sollten auch in den kommenden Jahren für positve Ergebnissteigerungen sorgen. Niedriges KGV und KUV würden die Aktie selbst bei unveränderter Ertragssituation nach unten absichern.

      Selbst wenn das Unternehmen 2001 nur die Gewinnschätzung der pessimistischsten Analysten von 0,50 Euro je Aktie erreichen würde, habe der Wert im Jahresverlauf Erholungspotential bis über 7,00 Euro.
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      schrieb am 20.04.01 14:18:27
      Beitrag Nr. 4 ()
      wovon träumst du sonst???
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      schrieb am 20.04.01 14:23:45
      Beitrag Nr. 5 ()
      Großinvestor vor Einstieg ... ?

      Einmal durchlesen, das gibt Kursfantasie oder glaubt Ihr, daß Haentjes seine Anteile für 4-5 Euro abgibt ?
      Ist übrigens aus dem IR Bereich aus einer Studie von La Bouchere vom 23.03.2001, nachzulesen auf der www.edel.de

      In the conference call the CFO indicated that edel was talking to a potential financial
      investor who would be willing to take on some of the company’s debt in return for an equity
      stake. News was expected on this over the next three months. Who the investor might be is
      obviously the key question. Two admittedly speculative possibilities are News Corp and
      BMG. James Murdoch sits on edel’s Supervisory Board and he also runs News Corp’s Music
      Group, edel’s strategic partner in Internet projects. The two companies already have a
      licensing agreement. Given News Corp’s aspiration to build up a global music business a link with
      Europe’s largest independent would be a significant step, one cheaper than buying EMI
      (something that News Corp apparently looked into). Increasing global market share may also
      interest BMG in edel assuming that a deal with EMI founders. Both companies know each other
      well, being German, the new management financial control systems that went in after the Q3
      profits warning are also used at BMG, and many edel managers, including the CFO, spent time at
      the company.

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      schrieb am 20.04.01 14:28:43
      Beitrag Nr. 6 ()
      Und hier wird deutlich, daß Sie aus Ihren Fehlern gelernt haben. Ich sach nur 1,2 Mrd Umsatz bei einer Bewertung von 160 Mio DM ! Das ist lachhaft ... werde hier gleich noch die komplette Analyse reinstellen !

      The credibility of the forecast. This is obviously a key issue following on from two
      successive Q4 profits warnings. As we discuss above we believe that management have
      adopted a conservative approach to their forecasting. It was clear from the conference
      call that there had been a great deal of internal discussion about this and that the CFO had
      insisted on such a policy. Given his time as CFO of BMG’s German-speaking territories he
      clearly has the knowledge and experience for the job and, from what we can see, the
      influence within the company to get his way in financial matters.
      edel give the impression of been desperately keen to avoid disappointing the market again.
      The company’s key shareholder, CEO Michael Haentjes, will have seen his own personal net
      worth severely dented by the weakness in the price. Moreover, the independent music sector
      continues to consolidate and a stronger share price based on an improved operating
      performance would allow the company to hit the acquisition trail again.
      On balance, therefore, after a difficult 2000 we are more comfortable with edel’s medium
      term prospects.
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      schrieb am 20.04.01 14:32:53
      Beitrag Nr. 7 ()
      Hier die Analyse komplett :
      Edel: 2000 Results
      Sales were DM 1.18bn vs. DM 451m in 1999 and a forecast DM 1.15bn.
      Both EBITDA and EBIT were reported as adjusted for DM 27.1m of one-off items, of
      which FX was DM 3.5m. These adjustments compare to the DM 18.2m forecast last
      December, of which DM 7.9m was FX. On this basis adjusted EBITDA was DM 63.5m
      (forecast DM 57.5m) and adjusted EBIT was DM 29.6m (DM 23.5m). Stripping out the
      increase in the adjustment implies a Q4 underlying result a touch lower than forecast.
      We discuss the 2000 numbers and the outlook for 2001 and 2002 in more detail below. In
      many respects these are less important than the outlook for 2001 and 2002. After two
      successive Q3 profits warnings edel have clearly decided to adopt a conservative approach to
      forecasting, at least for this year. For 2002 much more depends on creative success.
      In 2001 forecast organic sales growth is just 5%. This reflects the balance of a
      difficult comparison base in the US after a rip-roaring year last year (the Baha Men and
      RED Distribution) and hoped-for better performance in Germany after a dire 2000. This
      could be conservative e.g. Baha Men sales are forecast at 700,000 units, of which 400,000
      have already been sold, with a further album due in Q3 2001. For 2002 an improved A&R
      performance is expected to drive organic sales growth of 13.5%.
      EBIT growth in 2001 is forecast at 25%. Annualised cost savings of DM 12.5m have been
      identified of which DM 5.5m will be realised this year. The latter represents 75% of the
      forecast EBIT increment i.e. a recovery in 2001 is less dependent on creative success. In
      2002 creativity is much more important. Ultimately, of course this is true of any music
      company and edel’s track record is relatively good.
      A third area of conservatism is financial expenses. edel have penciled in a significant
      increase in costs here based on year-end debt levels but assuming 200bp higher interest
      rates. However, in the conference call they indicated that they were in discussions with a
      potential financial investor who would take on some sort of convertible instrument. News on
      this was possible in the next three months, as is a possible divestment of the company’s
      stake in Viva and Eagle Vision.
      Recommendation
      The outlook should have cheered the market, although clearly the forecast is from a far
      lower base than we originally anticipated. This time last year, for example, the company
      was forecasting 2001 EBITDA of DM 163m vs. the current expectation of DM 72m.
      Because of the latter the company still has to prove the credibility of its forecasts.
      However, for 2001 there is the comfort that much of the EBIT growth is related to cost
      side improvements over which the company has greater control.
      The 2002 forecast (EBITDA of DM 119m) is by no means unachievable. On this basis
      edel trades on 8.0x 2002 EV/EBITDA or a 2002 PE (excluding amortisation) of 9.7x.
      This is cheap but the company has to deliver during 2001 to get re-rated. Short term,
      however, there may be some positive momentum from news flow regarding a new financial
      investor (News Corp, BMG ?) and asset disposals.
      We retain our BUY recommendation.

      The Numbers in Detail
      After the Q3 profits warning these numbers will have come as something of a relief.
      FY sales more than doubled to DM 1.2bn. This reflects the full year consolidation of
      1999 acquisitions, most notably RED Distribution, PIAS and Eagle Rock. However, organic
      growth was also very healthy, with a 38% increase for the full year after 20% for the first
      nine months i.e. the Q4 top line was very good. The stars of the show were the Baha Men
      who shifted 2.7m albums in the US.
      For 2001 edel expect to make few, if any, acquisitions. This reflects the stretched balance
      sheet (see below). In addition, the success of the Baha Men last year makes for a difficult
      comparison base this year. As a result the company is forecasting just 5.2% sales growth in
      2001. This is probably conservative. For example, it assumes 700,000 more Baha Men albums
      for the year when 400,000 have already been sold – a second album due in Q3 should drive
      further sales of their first release. In addition, there will be new albums from 2000 successes
      like Orange Blue, Marque and Craig David as well as releases from Jennifer Paige, 2be3 and
      Blumchen whose previous albums have done quite well.
      In 2002 recent years’ investment in A&R is expected to drive sales growth to 13%.
      Reported EBITDA (DM 36.5m) and EBIT (DM 2.5m) were well down on the forecast
      from this time last year. This reflects the problems that came to light in Q4 that led to
      the profits warning. Specifically, operating costs at the “old” edel businesses – edel records
      Europe and edel media & entertainment – shot up as these units spent heavily on marketing
      to support poorly performing releases (see table below). In addition, PIAS and the
      operations in the US and Argentina did badly. The company also lost DM 3.6m due to
      currency movements. As a result edel took DM 23.6m of one-off costs through the P&L,
      most notably DM 10m in the US and DM 4.1m in Argentina. Management consultancy costs
      were DM 4.3m.
      edel: Divisional Sales and EBITDA (2000, DM m)
      Sales EBITDA % Margin
      edel records Europe 455.9 0.5 0.1%
      edel North America 400.4 27.1 6.8%
      edel Services 116.8 32.2 27.6%
      edel media & entertainment 61.8 3.1 4.9%
      edel publishing 5.1 -1.6 -31.9%
      PIAS 318.6 5.9 1.8%
      Total 1,358.6 67.1 4.9%
      The management consultants have identified DM 12.5m of annual cost savings of which
      edel expect to realise DM 5.5m this year. This DM 5.5m represents 75% of the expected
      EBIT improvement (against the adjusted EBIT number) this year and 15% of the increase for
      2002. The balance of 2002 EBIT growth reflects sales growth and a higher proportion of own
      product in the sale mix.

      Financial expenses rose sharply in 2000 from DM 0.4m to DM 18.4m. This reflects the
      full year funding of 1999 acquisitions. For 2001 edel are conservatively forecasting a near
      doubling of net interest costs and a flat number for 2002. One element of this
      conservatism is the assumption that interest rates will be 200 bp higher than they are
      currently.
      In the conference call the CFO indicated that edel was talking to a potential financial
      investor who would be willing to take on some of the company’s debt in return for an equity
      stake. News was expected on this over the next three months. Who the investor might be is
      obviously the key question. Two admittedly speculative possibilities are News Corp and
      BMG. James Murdoch sits on edel’s Supervisory Board and he also runs News Corp’s Music
      Group, edel’s strategic partner in Internet projects. The two companies already have a
      licensing agreement. Given News Corp’s aspiration to build up a global music business a link with
      Europe’s largest independent would be a significant step, one cheaper than buying EMI
      (something that News Corp apparently looked into). Increasing global market share may also
      interest BMG in edel assuming that a deal with EMI founders. Both companies know each other
      well, being German, the new management financial control systems that went in after the Q3
      profits warning are also used at BMG, and many edel managers, including the CFO, spent time at
      the company.
      The credibility of the forecast. This is obviously a key issue following on from two
      successive Q4 profits warnings. As we discuss above we believe that management have
      adopted a conservative approach to their forecasting. It was clear from the conference
      call that there had been a great deal of internal discussion about this and that the CFO had
      insisted on such a policy. Given his time as CFO of BMG’s German-speaking territories he
      clearly has the knowledge and experience for the job and, from what we can see, the
      influence within the company to get his way in financial matters.
      edel give the impression of been desperately keen to avoid disappointing the market again.
      The company’s key shareholder, CEO Michael Haentjes, will have seen his own personal net
      worth severely dented by the weakness in the price. Moreover, the independent music sector
      continues to consolidate and a stronger share price based on an improved operating
      performance would allow the company to hit the acquisition trail again.
      On balance, therefore, after a difficult 2000 we are more comfortable with edel’s medium
      term prospects.
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      schrieb am 22.04.01 22:09:42
      Beitrag Nr. 8 ()
      "Focus": Bertelsmann will Mehrheit an Viva Media übernehmen
      Frankfurt (vwd) - Die Bertelsmann AG, Gütersloh, will in das Musik-TV-Geschäft einsteigen und zu diesem Zweck die Mehrheit an der Viva Media AG, Köln, erwerben. Wie das Nachrichtenmagazin "Focus" vorab weiter berichtet, will Bertelsmann die 12,1-prozentige Beteiligung der edel music AG, Hamburg, an Viva Media erwerben. Dieser Schritt hänge jedoch vom Erfolg der Fusionsverhandlungen zwischen der Bertelsmann-Sparte Bertelsmann Music Group und der Musikgesellschaft EMI Group plc, London, ab, heißt es. EMI hält gegenwärtig einen 18,9-prozentigen Anteil an Viva.
      vwd/DJ/22.4.2001/bb
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      schrieb am 22.04.01 22:23:20
      Beitrag Nr. 9 ()
      wären beim jetztigen kurs - 8,5€ - 40.000.000,00 DM.
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      schrieb am 23.04.01 13:08:48
      Beitrag Nr. 10 ()
      edel music: Viva-Anteil steht nicht zum Verkauf
      Hamburg (vwd) - Die edel music AG, Hamburg, will ihren Anteil an der Viva Media AG, Köln, nicht verkaufen. Dies sagte ein Unternehmenssprecher am Montag auf Anfrage von vwd. Das Nachrichtenmagazin "Focus" hatte berichtet, dass die Bertelsmann AG, Gütersloh, die 12,1-prozentige Beteiligung von edel music an Viva Media erwerben wolle. +++ Ronny Oellermann

      vwd/23.4.2001/§oel/mr

      23. April 2001, 12:07
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      schrieb am 24.04.01 07:22:25
      Beitrag Nr. 11 ()
      Hallo Edelfreunde.

      Na das ist ja super, Edel will nicht verkaufen.
      Dann haben die das auch nicht nötig...

      Ich finde das eine gute Nachricht!!!

      GRuß G
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      schrieb am 10.05.01 09:44:06
      Beitrag Nr. 12 ()
      .

      Allein schon aus charttechnischen Aspekten sollten nach der wunderschönen Bodenbildung mindestens 50-70% Plus in den nächsten Tagen bzw. Wochen möglich sein:






      .
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      schrieb am 10.05.01 10:16:32
      Beitrag Nr. 13 ()
      Weisst jemand wie kann man, link, chart und bilder ins board reinfügen?
      Danke
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      schrieb am 15.05.01 18:32:11
      Beitrag Nr. 14 ()
      @dmdkt
      Hast du Kontakte zum Unternehmen?
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      schrieb am 16.05.01 09:39:38
      Beitrag Nr. 15 ()
      @dmdkt
      Guten Morgen,
      weißt du wo wir Infos zur HV einsehen können?
      mfg
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      schrieb am 20.05.01 18:49:23
      Beitrag Nr. 16 ()
      Morgen werden wir sehen wer recht hatte, ich sehe Edel bei 4, 80 um 12 Uhr...

      Gruß Geizkragen


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