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[Skydiver-]

bitte hier rein stellen (pos.+neg.) Vielen dank.

(1) I`m as much of a Europe-basher (well, almost as much) as most of my fellow conservatives, but the Europeans really have been quite good since September 11. The peoples of Britain, Germany, and even France seem pretty thoroughly pro-American. The elites haven`t been nearly as bad as one might have expected. The governments have been just fine--and Tony Blair has been terrific. NATO has been excellent. So let`s be nicer to our European friends for a while. (They`ll undoubtedly give us reasons to stop being nice pretty soon.)

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/00…

[M+M+C]

Die Deutschen lassen die USA und GB doch wohl eher die Drecksarbeit machen....

Motto:
"Kamerad schieß` du - ich hol` Kaffee"....


.....typisch für die deutsche Pfeffersäcke-Mentalität...

gruß
MMC

[Cashlover]

Die Engländer sind bekanntlich kriegsgeil.
Warum weiß ich auch nicht, ist aber so.
Die liefern ja jedesmal vorauseilenden Gehorsam, wenns ums
ballern geht.
Da ist mir unsere Zurückhaltung schon lieber!
Wer Bock aufs Kriegspielen hat:
Geht doch zur Fremdenlegion!
Lernt ihr gleich noch ne Fremdsprache
CL

[M+M+C]

Ich muss mich noch mal korrigieren...ich meinte nicht die deutsche Pfeffersack-Mentalität der Deutschen im Allgemeinen, sondern diejenige der 68er-Flaschen...

MMC

[lastLemming]

Eigentlich hat das weniger mit "Pfeffersäcken" oder "68ern" zu tun,
sondern damit, daß USA und GB uns erst gar nicht mitmachen lassen.
Deutschland soll lieber das tun, was es am besten kann: zahlen!

lastLemming
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October 12, 2001

FRANKFURT JOURNAL




Can`t Say That? Muzzling the Modern Germans

By EDMUND L. ANDREWS

RANKFURT, Oct. 11 — In German television news, Ulrich Wickert is about as close as anybody here can come to Dan Rather. As anchor for 10 years of the nightly news on ARD, one of Germany`s two main public networks, Mr. Wickert has attracted big followings with steadiness, style and wit.

But last week, as German leaders were bending over backward to support the United States in its battle against terrorism, Mr. Wickert suddenly became an object lesson in the new limits of acceptable speech.

Thanks to one sentence, leading politicians accused him of being an anti-American apologist for Osama bin Laden and demanded he resign.

About halfway through a magazine article that made a general plea for tolerance but chided American leaders for occasional arrogance and self-righteousness, Mr. Wickert suggested that President Bush and Osama bin Laden had both displayed intolerance.

"Bush is no murderer or terrorist," Mr. Wickert wrote. "But the thought structures are the same."

The remark provoked national outrage. Angela Merkel, leader of the conservative Christian Democratic Union, said Mr. Wickert was "absolutely not acceptable anymore as a news anchor on public television." Newspapers pounced on the remarks, quoting rival news executives who questioned Mr. Wickert`s fitness as a broadcaster.
Mr. Wickert saved his job, barely. He apologized and begged for forgiveness on the air, stating that "George Bush and Osama bin Laden are not comparable." He vowed not to write any more magazine articles. His publisher canceled a celebration to publicize his new book.

The television anchor is not alone. In eastern Germany, two schoolteachers near Dresden have been suspended for making comments that seemed sympathetic to the terrorists who attacked New York and Washington. In Siegen, a small town in western Germany near Bonn, a teacher of "peace studies" was suspended after he gave a speech urging high school graduates to avoid military service by taking the entirely legal option of volunteering for social work instead.

Here in Frankfurt on Monday, local authorities at a community-access cable television channel blocked a call-in show that a local Iranian resident had been conducting almost weekly for the past four years. The channel`s overseers said the show, billed as "Small Wars, Big Wars," might provoke callers voicing religious hatred or promoting violence.

The show`s host, a computer engineer named Saaed Habibzadeh, protested in vain that the show would focus not on Afghanistan but on conflicts among families, friends and neighbors.

"If I were anti-American, I would be back in Iran," said Mr. Habibzadeh, who has lived here for 15 years. "I am against terrorism, against violence and against war."

The spurts of censorship and self- censorship are sporadic. But, in times when the major American television networks have reached an agreement to refrain from broadcasting entire video pronouncements from Mr. bin Laden and his aides, some Germans wonder about issues of free speech. In Germany, such issues have a particular historical resonance.

Germans, particularly in the west, have had strong pro-American sympathies ever since the end of World War II, when American and other allied troops occupied their ruined country and rebuilt it.

But when such support leads to new taboos in order to conform with the new fight against terrorism, some Germans start to feel uneasy..

"I do not think there is a big new trend toward censorship," said Bernd Gäbler, director of the Adolf Grimme Institute, which studies media and communications. "But I do think there is a trend toward setting more taboos. Suddenly, things that did not seem all that unusual a few weeks ago have become sensitive."

Bernhard Nolz, the high school teacher in Siegen, issued his criticism of the United States at a memorial ceremony a week after the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

Mr. Nolz, a long-time pacifist, chided the United States for its refusal to pay its dues to the United Nations while being quick to underwrite military attacks in the Balkans and now Afghanistan. He also urged male students to avoid the year of mandatory military service when they turn 18 by exercising their right to do social work.

His speech generated angry letters in the local newspaper. Next, local school officials suspended Mr. Nolz from his job, saying that he had failed to show the "proper political restraint" needed in a civil servant.

Two other teachers near Dresden have been removed from their classrooms as well, while inquiry boards decide whether they made statements that were sympathetic to the terrorists. According to German newspaper reports, one teacher is accused of telling students that "the United States has finally been taught a lesson."

One German who has utterly refused to pull his punches is Günter Grass, the Nobel-prize winning writer and veteran leftist. In an interview this week with Der Spiegel`s Web site, Mr. Grass roundly condemned American military attacks on Afghanistan and accused the United States of trying to remake the world in its own image.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/12/international/europe/12GER…

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But the strong showing for the PDS, successor to the communist party that built the Berlin Wall, suggests its stance against U.S. military strikes on Afghanistan may have won it votes among pacifists.

http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/10/21/berlin.election/

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A coalition with Mr. Gysi would have more seats, be more stable and unite Berlin`s western and eastern halves in government. But Mr. Gysi and his party are alone in opposing the American-led war in Afghanistan, a war that Chancellor Schröder supports with "unlimited solidarity."

Mr. Wowereit may be tempted to try to heal the psychological wounds that Mr. Gysi has skillfully exploited among easterners, who feel that they are second-class citizens in the new Germany, patronized and paid less money for the same work than their western counterparts.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/22/international/europe/22BER…

The former Communists, now known as the Party of Democratic Socialism (PDS), won almost 23 percent of the vote, after building on their strong base in east Berlin and appealing to pacifist voters as the only party in the federal Parliament that opposed military action.

The party, led by Gregor Gysi, one of Germany`s most charismatic politicians, defied predictions that its popularity was falling because of its anti-war stance, capturing a larger share of votes than in 1999.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A30924-2001Oct…

[RedMercury]

Die USA sollten uns langsam mal sch... egal sein

DAs heisst nicht, daß wir hier größenwahnsinnig werden sollten, sondern einfach mal unsere eigenen Wege zusammen mit der EU gehen

Klar können wir mit der EU genauso weiter machen wie bisher in Deutschland: Eben alles das mit einem halben Jahr Verzögerung nachmachen, was uns die USA gerade vormachen.
Dann können wir aber gleich unsere Euros wieder einschmelzen und zum Metallwert an die Amis verschenken.

Von einem schlechten Vorbild abkupfern ist zwar einfacher für unsere "Politiker" - ein bischen mehr Eigenleistung sollten wir aber glaube ich schon von Ihnen erwarten können.

Mit "Kapitalismus" kann man kein Geld verdienen - höchstens umverteilen
Geld kann man nur verdienen, wenn man eigene Ideen und Innovationen hat - das gilt auch im nationalen und internationalen Massstab

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Washington lobt den Einsatz der Deutschen: "Absolut erstklassig"

Das Angebot Schröders für die Anti-Terror-Koalition / Repräsentantenhaus beschließt Kriegsanleihe


K.F. WASHINGTON, 24. Oktober. Unter dem Eindruck als erfolgreich bewerteter Militärschläge in Afghanistan, wachsender wirtschaftlicher Belastungen und steigender Verunsicherung durch immer neue Fälle von Milzbrandanschlägen in Washington zeigt sich die amerikanische Regierung beeindruckt von der Solidarität Deutschlands. In einem Gespräch mit der Frankfurter Allgemeinen Zeitung nannte der stellvertretende Außenminister Richard Armitage diesen Beitrag "absolut erstklassig". Das "Angebot" Bundeskanzler Schröders zur Zusammenarbeit der Geheimdienste bis zur Bereitstellung "robuster militärischer Kraft haben wir mit großer Dankbarkeit entgegengenommen". Armitage fügte hinzu: "Deutschland ist wirklich aus dem Schatten seiner Vergangenheit herausgetreten."

http://www.faz.de/IN/INtemplates/faznet/default.asp?tpl=faz/…