`Avino Silver´(ASM.V) besser als `Mines Management´(MGN)? (Seite 78)

[Fantomas96]

Dann versucht es doch mal mit:
First Majestic
Endeavour
Fortuna
Silver Wheaton
Sandstorm
Franco-Nevada
Argonaut
Primero
Eldorado
B2Gold

FANTOMAS

[tntxrxwelle]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 44.654.225 von Fantomas96 am 16.05.13 17:04:16

Ich mach' Börse nun auch nicht erst seit gestern. Die Apotheke ist voll mit Erbrochenem...und nicht nur von Pferden. Jeder Preis ist denkbar, es fragt sich nur, wie hoch die Wahrscheinlichkeit ist.

@dosto

Na, dann sind wir ja doch ganz grob einer Meinung...was Avino betrifft.

Im Übrigen bin ich ein contrairian. Insofern ist es bei den Minern schon ganz nett. Ich hätte aber gerne Minen mit tiefen Taschen, damit die tote Katze nicht liegenbleibt...

[dosto]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 44.654.095 von tntxrxwelle am 16.05.13 16:52:42

Nö,

sehe ich nicht so.

Silber muß für den Stockpile die nächsten 2 Jahre über an die 35 hergeben
um die alte Avino ordentlich zu platzieren.
Jedes verlorene Quartal kann wohl nicht ersetzt werden.

Runter reicht der heutige Preis schon völlig aus um dem Shareholder
keinerlei Chance auf einen Gewinn zu geben.

Das bißchen vaporisiert sich innerhalb der Gesellschaft ohne
große Prosperität.

Aber jeder macht halt sein Spiel.
Meine Trefferquote hat sich zum Nachteil der BUG nun aber wieder
wesentlich erhöht.

Es gibt aber auch ander Sektoren an der Börse zb. die zur
Hölle gefahrenen Hypotheken und Immos, die machen im Moment das
wovon die Miner träumen. Den turnaround.

Viel Spaß.
So mit dem linken Auge werde ich die Gurke verfolgen,
ob sie in den Markt kommt.
Aber ich furchte, nein das wird sie nicht.

[Fantomas96]

Und welche Dumpfbacke glaubt schon an Silber $ 12 ?????

[tntxrxwelle]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 44.653.977 von dosto am 16.05.13 16:43:34

Every dog has it's day....
Das dürfte nun nicht unbedingt besagen, dass Avino shit ist. Abgesehen davon, dass ich den Wert im derzeitigen Umfeld für ungeschickt halte (keine tiefen Taschen). Präsentier doch mal die Liste der silver-stocks, die seit Jahresbeginn im Plus ist. Dürfte ziemlich übersichtlich sein.

Geht Silber 10$ hoch, ist bei Avino alles paletti, geht er 10$ runter, wird die Veranstaltung beendet. Ist doch recht simpel.

[dosto]

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so, da ist der Pennystock.

[tpnl]

News:


AVINO APRIL PRODUCTION REPORT

Avino Silver and Gold Mines Ltd. (ASM: TSX.V, ASM: NYSE - MKT; “Avino” or “the Company”) is pleased to announce the following April 2013 production results from its San Gonzalo mine and Historic Avino Mine Surface stockpiles operations located on the Avino property near Durango, Mexico.



Silver equivalent for April was calculated using a 55:1 ratio for silver to gold. Mill production figures have not been reconciled and are subject to adjustment with concentrate sales. Calculated figures may not add up due to rounding.

San Gonzalo Production

Production numbers from April and the first quarter at San Gonzalo, as well as 2013 yearly totals are reported as follows:



Silver equivalent was calculated using a 55:1 ratio for silver to gold. Mill production figures have not been reconciled and are subject to adjustment with concentrate sales. Year-to-date and calculated figures may not add up due to rounding.

San Gonzalo April Highlights
• Total silver equivalent ounces for April decreased by 17.2% from March due to lower tonnage processed and lower silver feed grade;
• The lower tonnage processed was due to one fewer operating days;
• Lower silver feed grade was due to more development material processed;
• Silver & gold recoveries were similar to March;
• Production in May will contain more material from the stopes and less development material

Circuit 2 Production (Historic Above Ground Stockpiles)

On April 11th 2013, Avino commissioned an additional 250 tonne per day circuit at its processing plant known as circuit 2. The circuit is currently being used to process historic above ground stockpiles left from past mining of the Avino vein. (For more information please see the news release dated April 29 2013).

Prior to the San Gonzalo mine commencing production at the beginning of Q4 2012, mill circuit 1 was used to process material from the same stockpiles, during Q3 circuit 1 produced 50,074 ounces of silver equivalent, Avino expects output to be similar from circuit 2. Select production data from Q3 and April 2013 are presented below.


Jul
2012 Aug
2012 Sept
2012 April
2013
Total mill feed – (dry tonnes) 6,052 6,528 7,435 4,040
Days of Operation 29.5 30 30 19
Feed grade Silver - g/t 71.74 77.37 71.74 73.00
Feed grade Gold - g/t 1.36 1.06 0.86 0.791
Bulk concentrate – (dry tonnes) 84.90 115.44 123.62 49.84
Bulk Concentrate Grade Silver (kg/t) 2.991 3.015 2.983 3.977
Bulk Concentrate Grade Gold (g/t) 49.47 33.79 30.85 35.30
Recovery Silver (%) 58.50 68.90 67.70 67.00
Recovery Gold (%) 51.00 56.40 58.50 55.00
Mill availability (%) 95 97 97 63
Total Silver Produced (oz) calculated 8,164 11,189 11,671 6,373
Total Gold Produced (oz) calculated 135 125 121 57
Total Silver Eq. Produced (oz) calculated 14,914 17,439 17,721 9,484

Silver equivalent for July through September was calculated using a 50:1 ratio for silver to gold, for the month of April a 55:1 ratio was used. (The ratio was changed to reflect more current gold and silver prices.) Mill production figures have not been reconciled and are subject to adjustment with concentrate sales.

Circuit 2 April Highlights
• Feed grades in April from the historic stockpiles are similar to those of September 2012 when processing of this material ceased;
• Recoveries for silver and gold are similar but the concentrate grades are better.

Quality Assurance/Quality Control

Mill assays are performed at the lab onsite at the mine. Check samples are verified by SGS laboratory Services in Durango, Mexico. Concentrate shipments are assayed at AH Knight in Manzanillo, Mexico.

Qualified Person(s)

Avino's projects are under the supervision of Chris Sampson, P.Eng, BSc, ARSM Avino Consultant and Mr. Jasman Yee P.Eng, Avino director, who are both qualified persons within the context of National Instrument 43-101. Both have reviewed and approved the technical data in this news release

About Avino

Founded in 1968, Avino's mission is to create shareholder value through profitable organic growth at the historic Avino property near Durango, Mexico. We are committed to managing all business activities in an environmentally responsible and cost-effective manner while contributing to the well-being of the community in which we operate.

On Behalf of the Board

“David Wolfin”
________________________________
David Wolfin
President & CEO


Safe Harbor Statement - This news release contains "forward-looking information" and "forward-looking statements" (together, the "forward looking statements") within the meaning of applicable securities laws and the United States Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including our belief as to the extent and timing of various studies including the PEA, and exploration results, the potential tonnage, grades and content of deposits, timing and establishment and extent of resources estimates. These forward-looking statements are made as of the date of this news release and the dates of technical reports, as applicable. Readers are cautioned not to place undue reliance on forward-looking statements, as there can be no assurance that the future circumstances, outcomes or results anticipated in or implied by such forward-looking statements will occur or that plans, intentions or expectations upon which the forward-looking statements are based will occur. While we have based these forward-looking statements on our expectations about future events as at the date that such statements were prepared, the statements are not a guarantee that such future events will occur and are subject to risks, uncertainties, assumptions and other factors which could cause events or outcomes to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements.

Such factors and assumptions include, among others, the effects of general economic conditions, the price of gold, silver and copper, changing foreign exchange rates and actions by government authorities, uncertainties associated with legal proceedings and negotiations and misjudgments in the course of preparing forward-looking information. In addition, there are known and unknown risk factors which could cause our actual results, performance or achievements to differ materially from any future results, performance or achievements expressed or implied by the forward-looking statements. Known risk factors include risks associated with project development; the need for additional financing; operational risks associated with mining and mineral processing; fluctuations in metal prices; title matters; uncertainties and risks related to carrying on business in foreign countries; environmental liability claims and insurance; reliance on key personnel; the potential for conflicts of interest among certain of our officers, directors or promoters of with certain other projects; the absence of dividends; currency fluctuations; competition; dilution; the volatility of the our common share price and volume; tax consequences to U.S. investors; and other risks and uncertainties. Although we have attempted to identify important factors that could cause actual actions, events or results to differ materially from those described in forward-looking statements, there may be other factors that cause actions, events or results not to be as anticipated, estimated or intended. There can be no assurance that forward-looking statements will prove to be accurate, as actual results and future events could differ materially from those anticipated in such statements. Accordingly, readers should not place undue reliance on forward-looking statements. We are under no obligation to update or alter any forward-looking statements except as required under applicable securities laws.

Cautionary Note to United States Investors - The information contained herein and incorporated by reference herein has been prepared in accordance with the requirements of Canadian securities laws, which differ from the requirements of United States securities laws. In particular, the term "resource" does not equate to the term "reserve". The Securities Exchange Commission's (the "SEC") disclosure standards normally do not permit the inclusion of information concerning "measured mineral resources", "indicated mineral resources" or "inferred mineral resources" or other descriptions of the amount of mineralization in mineral deposits that do not constitute "reserves" by SEC standards, unless such information is required to be disclosed by the law of the Company's jurisdiction of incorporation or of a jurisdiction in which its securities are traded. U.S. investors should also understand that "inferred mineral resources" have a great amount of uncertainty as to their existence and great uncertainty as to their economic and legal feasibility. Disclosure of "contained ounces" is permitted disclosure under Canadian regulations; however, the SEC normally only permits issuers to report mineralization that does not constitute "reserves" by SEC standards as in place tonnage and grade without reference to unit measures.

Neither TSX Venture Exchange nor its Regulation Services Provider (as that term is defined in the policies of the TSX Venture Exchange) accepts responsibility for the adequacy or accuracy of this release.

[dosto]

Avino hat 2012 für das Gesamtjahr keinen Gewinn erwirtschaftet, weil:
- nur das letzte Quartal Q4 kommerziell produziert wurde, mit Gewinn ! (gegen Ausgaben für 12 Monate)
- in 2012 insgesamt $ 2,3 Mio. für Exploration und Drilling ausgegeben wurden
- in 2012 insgesamt knapp $ 1 Mio. in die Förderanlagen investiert wurden
- Gesamtkosten des Unternehmens aus dem Konzentratverkauf VOR Beginn der kommerziellen Produktion mit finanziert wurden


Das wird nicht das letzte Geld in Aufwendungen sein.
Sollten die erstmal Untertage gehen, dann werden Kosten kommen.

Stockpile aufzuarbeiten ist die billigste Variante, aber das dauert auch nicht lange.

Aus den angegeben 440.000 tons mit 4,8 Mill Unzen
werden letztendlich nur ca 2,5-2,8 Mill Unzen im ersten Gang herkommen.
Der Rest wird wohl in das berüchtigte Tailing landen.
Das kann ja dann nochmal mit einer Recovery-Rate von 60 % durch den Kakao gezogen werden.
Welch Irrsinn.
Mining vom Feinsten.

[dosto]

jA; KLAR RIESENGROß

alle Shareholder machen Purzelbäume über den nicht vorhandenen Gewinn.

Wird Zeit, daß du die Möglichkeiten dieser Klitsache besser in den Griff kriegst.

Laß sie mal 80.000 tons abräumen und die Zahlen (alle)
dazu liefern, dann wird man sehen.

Ansonsten keine Lust mit dir.
Zeitverschwendung

Erinnert mich an Aurcana, das muß nicht wieder sein.
Auch so ein Gedöns und dann viel heiße Luft.

Danke.

[Fantomas96]

Zitat von dosto: Geh in die Zahlen und leg die rosarote Brille weg.

Du bist für mich schlichtweg ein Träumer.

Wenn ich Deine uninformierten Bemerkungen hier so deute, bin ich weit tiefer in den Zahlen als Du es jemals sein wirst !
Was ist denn jetzt mit dem Quartalsgewinn in Q4, Du Blindfisch ?

FANTOMAS