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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 43.136.718 von speculantius am 08.05.12 17:27:04

Und was lernen wir daraus? So eine wertvolle und gute Anlage errichtet man in einem Land mit Mindeststandards an Rechtssicherheit.

Lynas hätte sich und uns diesen Ärger und die Unsicherheiten ersparen können, wenn sie LAMP direkt neben die Mount Weld Mine gebaut hätten. So macht Molycorp das ja auch bei der Mountain Pass Mine. und in der australischen Wüste hätte es auch keine Probleme mit Anwohnern gegeben.

Investitionen in Schwellenländer gelten aber als schick und so setzt Thyssen Milliarden mit einem Stahlwerk in Brasilien in den Sand, Repsol wird in Argentinien enteignet, deutsche Maschinenbauer transferieren ihr Know how gutgläubig nach China und wundern sich, wenn sie dort dann alsbald ausgebootet werden, nachdem die Chinesen das Know ho abgegriffen haben.

Nur was hilft's Lynas? Die Milliarden sind investiert. Noch steht noch nicht fest, ob sie versenkt sind...

[geldisweg]

Zitat von Fuenfvorzwoelf: Das klingt wirklich toll!

Kauf ausgeführt zu 0,789

Dann interessiert sicher auch das (auch wenn die Meldung schon eine Stunde alt ist):

"Science, Technology and Innovation Minister Datuk Seri Maximus Ongkili has yet to decide on the appeal by three petitioners last month to revoke the temporary operating licence (TOL) for the Lynas Advanced Material Plant (LAMP).
In a text message to the Sun, Ongkili's press secretary Jane Ritikos said the minister is still studying the details (of the petition)."

http://www.thesundaily.my/node/98752

[speculantius]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 43.136.310 von kickmarin am 08.05.12 16:26:29

Moin kickmarin,
damit nicht jeder für sich suchen muss, hier aus "fatzebuck" der beitrag, den du wahrscheinlich meinst:



Start LYNAS Today

vor etwa einer Stunde.



Received a call from Alastair Neil last night on his way to the LAMP facility. This morning he sent me an email with the following: "The Lynas plant in Malaysia is a world class facility and the best I have seen outside of China with the possible exception of Rhodia's plant in La Rochelle but the systems in place to monitor and control the pollution are second to none. The staff has spent a lot of time , money and effort to understand the concerns raised by those opposing the facility. In all instances they were able to explain how they addressed the concerns based on international standards or refuted the claims based on factual information. The waste gas scrubber alone is a custom design costing as much as it would to construct a medium sized facility in China. The potential for this to be a springboard for other industries in Malaysia is compelling and a local University is embarking on several RE programs in consultation with Peking University, China and Kharlsruhr Institute of Technology, Germany. This, to my knowledge, is the first new concerts effort to develop RE knowledge base outside China in the recent past. Overall I was very impressed by the design, construction and staff at the facility."

nicht nur Neill, auch alle sach-und fachkundigen , wissenschaftlich informierten und orientierten Experten , die sich zur LAMP äußern, sind so positiv, dass ich mich wirklich frage, wer MOSTI (Minister für Wissenschaft (!?!), Technologie (!?!) und Innovation (!?!), - gleichzeitig auch oberste richterliche Instanz im Fall TOL - , dafür bezahlt, dass er die entscheidung derart lange hinauszögert

IMO wäre eine ablehnung der TOL das ende Malaysias in puncto technischer fortschritt, investitionen ausländischer unternehmen, erhöhung des lebensstandards der bevölkerung, etc. etc.
und ein rückschritt in einen agrarstaat, dessen palmöl-monokultur in wenigen jahren den regenwaldboden ausgelaugt haben und das land versteppen lassen wird.

@amphibie, du bist doch der breitmaulfrosch, der (damit er im Bilde ist) statt "Konfitüre" nur "MAMMEE-LAA-DEEEE" rauskriegt
Los! Gib dich zu erkennen

Gruß specu

[geldisweg]

Zitat von geldisweg: Um dieses Posting geht es wohl

Oops, wie ich sehe hat Kickmarin es doch noch reingestellt (nur w:o hat mir das beim Seite neu laden nicht gezeigt).

Sei's drum, doppelt gemoppelt hilft besser!

[Fuenfvorzwoelf]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 43.136.643 von kickmarin am 08.05.12 17:14:19

Das klingt wirklich toll!

Kauf ausgeführt zu 0,789

[geldisweg]

Zitat von Fuenfvorzwoelf: Wenn die Info was wert ist, kauf ich sofort. Hab grad ne Kauforder gestellt, aber warte auf die Info.

Um dieses Posting geht es wohl:

"Received a call from Alastair Neil last night on his way to the LAMP facility. This morning he sent me an email with the following:

"The Lynas plant in Malaysia is a world class facility and the best I have seen outside of China with the possible exception of Rhodia's plant in La Rochelle but the systems in place to monitor and control the pollution are second to none.
The staff has spent a lot of time , money and effort to understand the concerns raised by those opposing the facility. In all instances they were able to explain how they addressed the concerns based on international standards or refuted the claims based on factual information.
The waste gas scrubber alone is a custom design costing as much as it would to construct a medium sized facility in China.
The potential for this to be a springboard for other industries in Malaysia is compelling and a local University is embarking on several RE programs in consultation with Peking University, China and Kharlsruhr Institute of Technology, Germany. This, to my knowledge, is the first new concerts effort to develop RE knowledge base outside China in the recent past.
Overall I was very impressed by the design, construction and staff at the facility.""

http://www.facebook.com/StartLYNASToday

[kickmarin]

Und hier noch ein Artikel aus dem freemalysiantoday! Sieht aus als werden sie PRO LYNAS




Experts soothe fears over Lynas plant
Stephanie Sta Maria | May 8, 2012
International experts think the rare earth facility in Gebeng is safe to operate as long as things are done right.
KUALA LUMPUR: An international expert has declared the area surrounding Lynas Corporation’s rare earth plant in Gebeng safer than the area surrounding the street outside a hotel in downtown Kuala Lumpur.
Jack Lifton, the founding principal of Technology Metals Research, was among the four panellists at an International Symposium on Rare Earths yesterday.
The symposium was jointly organised by the Academy of Sciences Malaysia and the National Professors’ Council Working Group on Rare Earths as part of a public engagement and awareness initiative.
The introduction in the booklet handed out to participants expressed hope that the symposium would give Malaysians a world view of the current rare earths situation and address “the lack of accurate scientific information available to the public on rare earths”.
The symposium was held in the wake of the controversy over the RM2.5-billion Lynas Advanced Materials Plant (LAMP) which is scheduled to begin operations this year.
Hinting that public fears over the safety of LAMP could be unfounded, Lifton pointed out that Malaysia’s venture into the rare earths industry came at an opportune time as it would benefit from pioneering countries.
He added that his 48 years of industry involvement has given him an insight into how certain situations would pan out and in his opinion, LAMP would yield a positive outcome.
“Malaysia is starting at the right place and is benefiting from the world’s experiences and mistakes, especially that of America and China,” Lifton told the small crowd.
“We need this [rare earth] material so we are going to do all we can to make it as safe as possible. And the truth is that I suspect the area around the Kuantan plant is safer than the area on the street outside. I’ve seen it all and (LAMP) appears to be very clean.”
The team of four experts will be visiting LAMP today and apart from one of them, Alastair Neill, this will be their first visit there.
Neill, the executive vice-president of Dacha Strategic Metals, noted that the last three decades have seen a tremendous improvement in the ability to monitor, measure and understand the implications of rare earth materials.
He said Malaysia therefore had a chance to start off on the right foot instead of backtracking and retro-fitting a previously built facility.
“If you can do it right, get the right people to monitor it and make sure that the equipment is in place, then the plant can operate without a hitch,” he said.
Good access

In responding to a question from the audience as to Lynas’ decision to build the plant in Kuantan instead of Australia, Neill said that only the mining giant had the authority to answer it.
He, however, said that in his opinion, Lynas’ original plan to set up operations in China was scuppered by the country’s sudden imposition of export taxes, which subsequently reduced the plant’s economic viability.
He further speculated that Lynas’ choice of Malaysia was driven purely by economics.
“Here there is good access to the end-user market, good transport and infrastructure as well as port access,” Neill said.
“I have been to the Mount Weld facility [Western Australia] and building the LAMP there would be a nightmare because moving chemicals in and out would be extremely difficult.”
“I could be wrong but building the LAMP here was done for business reasons though [Lynas CEO] Nicholas Curtis would have to confirm that himself.”
Neill’s assessement matched the clarification by Lynas Malaysia’s managing director, Mashal Ahmad, who had previously stressed that Lynas’ decision to leave China was based on the country constant change in operational guidelines.
“Lynas came here because Malaysia is economically sound, has a clear set of guidelnes, good infrastruture and political stability,” Mashal had said during a dialogue session last month.



Wer ihn noch nicht kannte und der englischen Sprache mächtig ist

Kick

[kickmarin]

So ich hab dann mal rumgeiphont: Quelle Facebook " Start Lynas Today " und ich hab heute auch noch einmal 1000 Teile nachgekauft!!!!!!

Received a call from Alastair Neil last night on his way to the LAMP facility. This morning he sent me an email with the following: "The Lynas plant in Malaysia is a world class facility and the best I have seen outside of China with the possible exception of Rhodia's plant in La Rochelle but the systems in place to monitor and control the pollution are second to none. The staff has spent a lot of time , money and effort to understand the concerns raised by those opposing the facility. In all instances they were able to explain how they addressed the concerns based on international standards or refuted the claims based on factual information. The waste gas scrubber alone is a custom design costing as much as it would to construct a medium sized facility in China. The potential for this to be a springboard for other industries in Malaysia is compelling and a local University is embarking on several RE programs in consultation with Peking University, China and Kharlsruhr Institute of Technology, Germany. This, to my knowledge, is the first new concerts effort to develop RE knowledge base outside China in the recent past. Overall I was very impressed by the design, construction and staff at the facility."


Viel Glück!!!!!

Kick

[Fuenfvorzwoelf]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 43.136.590 von kickmarin am 08.05.12 17:07:51

Wenn die Info was wert ist, kauf ich sofort. Hab grad ne Kauforder gestellt, aber warte auf die Info.

[kickmarin]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 43.136.432 von Fuenfvorzwoelf am 08.05.12 16:46:34

Weil es mir das Fürzchen mit dem Eiphone zu schwer ist und zu doof