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Letzter Kurs 15.06.15 Lang & Schwarz
Werte aus der Branche Internet
Wertpapier | Kurs | Perf. % |
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0,6000 | +11,11 | |
2,2199 | +11,00 | |
6,1600 | +8,83 | |
1,4850 | +8,00 | |
1,0900 | +6,86 |
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2,4100 | -3,98 | |
2,7180 | -4,30 | |
90,48 | -4,50 | |
8,1000 | -6,47 | |
5,7000 | -37,22 |
20% im Plus und hohe Umsätze
was`n da los?
übernimmt LE jetzt endlich T-Online und Yahoo?
was`n da los?
übernimmt LE jetzt endlich T-Online und Yahoo?
Es wird höchste Zeit das wir uns endlich in Richtung der 5 Euro und dann weiter in Bewegung setzen!
heute 40 % im plus und hohe Umsätze.
Welcher Verrückte kauft denn massenhaft Lycos?
Wahrscheinlich will jemand das dünne Ostergeschäft nutzen, die Aktie hochpeitschen und nach Ostern wieder günstig verkloppen.
Welcher Verrückte kauft denn massenhaft Lycos?
Wahrscheinlich will jemand das dünne Ostergeschäft nutzen, die Aktie hochpeitschen und nach Ostern wieder günstig verkloppen.
Ich habe heute aufgestckt und ich werde NICHT nach Ostern verkaufen.
Gruss
Nik
Gruss
Nik
Angeblich ist Bertelsmann wirklich an der Übernahme von Yahoo interessiert und plant sodann eine Verschmelzung mit Lycos, da auf dem Portal- und Suchmaschinenmarkt die Margen für beide zu eng sind.
was heisst denn "angeblich" ?
völliger Quatsch,
für Bertelmann wäre Yahoo momentan 3 Nummern zu groß.
Es gibt nur einen allein der LE aufkauft und der heißt
Terra, die sacken sicherlich schon jetzt über eine Bank
zu günstigen Kurse ein, denn in den USA glaubt man nicht
mehr lange an eine Baisse. Heute war auf finance.yahoo.com
yhoo/messages zu lesen, dass große Fondsgesellschaften mit
längerem Horizont kräftig kaufen. Man rechnet max. noch
mit einem schwachen Quartal, danach werden vielen Internet
werte anziehen, darunter nannte man auch Yahoo, Sycamore
, Corfes. Die niedrigen Zinsen lassen jetzt schon die Kauf-
laune der Amis wieder ansteigen. Online-Reise-Agenturen
verspüren einen kräftigen Anschub der Buchungen (Expedia)
denn über 15 Mill. Amerikaner buchten bereits im Mai 2001
eine Reise über die großen Online Agenturen. Ich setze voll
auf Internet bei einem Zeithorizont von 2-5 Jahren und
kaufe wie die Fonds jetzt billig zu, so billig wirds bald
nicht mehr werden.
für Bertelmann wäre Yahoo momentan 3 Nummern zu groß.
Es gibt nur einen allein der LE aufkauft und der heißt
Terra, die sacken sicherlich schon jetzt über eine Bank
zu günstigen Kurse ein, denn in den USA glaubt man nicht
mehr lange an eine Baisse. Heute war auf finance.yahoo.com
yhoo/messages zu lesen, dass große Fondsgesellschaften mit
längerem Horizont kräftig kaufen. Man rechnet max. noch
mit einem schwachen Quartal, danach werden vielen Internet
werte anziehen, darunter nannte man auch Yahoo, Sycamore
, Corfes. Die niedrigen Zinsen lassen jetzt schon die Kauf-
laune der Amis wieder ansteigen. Online-Reise-Agenturen
verspüren einen kräftigen Anschub der Buchungen (Expedia)
denn über 15 Mill. Amerikaner buchten bereits im Mai 2001
eine Reise über die großen Online Agenturen. Ich setze voll
auf Internet bei einem Zeithorizont von 2-5 Jahren und
kaufe wie die Fonds jetzt billig zu, so billig wirds bald
nicht mehr werden.
http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/funds/fundjunkie/1480042.htm…
Yes, the Internet has changed the way we work and live, but Net stocks have
been a flaming money pit over the past 18 months. Their collapse has
Matthew Fitzmaurice and his colleagues at Amerindo Investment Advisors
on the canvas, but he sees reasons to keep swinging.
Fitzmaurice, the New York money management shop`s chief investment
officer, concedes that things aren`t looking rosy given the cliff-dive in tech and
telecom spending at big companies. After all, the Amerindo Technology fund,
perhaps the most aggressive Net fund out there, is down more than 64% over
the past 12 months, compared with a 53% loss for the average tech fund,
according to Morningstar.
Despite the carnage, Fitzmaurice says the days of steep Net-stock gains
didn`t end last year. Few Net companies will become juggernauts, he says,
but those that do will post boffo gains once the malaise passes. Lest we
forget, the firm`s Technology fund followed its 84.7% gain in 1998 with a 249%
gain in 1999. Though the fund is less than 5 years old, the firm`s principals,
led by Alberto Vilar, have been fishing in the emerging tech pool since 1980.
Their fund is too aggressive for most investors, but few if any have more
experience investing in this corner of the market. If you`re a Net believer, or a
skeptic who wants to hear the bull`s case, Fitzmaurice`s perspective is a
must-read.
1. Tech and telecom-equipment spending is
down this year; it could be down next year.
What`s your case for tech today?
Fitzmaurice: We have to retest the basic
premise: Does the Internet as a medium
change the way we live and do business? Our
answer comes back unequivocally: It does.
The wealth that`s going to be created from
this is going to dwarf anything we`ve
heretofore seen.
We want to be invested in companies that fall
into essentially three categories. The first
category is infrastructure companies that
allow you to take advantage of this new
medium. The second contains two categories
that I`ll lump together: B2B and B2C
[business-to-business and
business-to-consumer, respectively]. The final
category relates to those companies that are
facilitating the overall telco infrastructure.
It`s been a brutal environment in these areas.
What time frame are you using as a marker
for when things start to come back?
Fitzmaurice: The relevant time frame is at a
minimum 12 to 18 months. But what we like to think about is three to five
years, maybe out as long as seven years.
We`re making investments in companies. We stay relatively narrow, so we
have 20-some odd companies that we care about. In a group of 10 of those
companies, we assume that two to three of them are going to be huge returns
-- five times, 10 times -- several more will be percentage returns 20% to
100%, and the balance becomes largely irrelevant.
That`s how we`ve done it for 20-some odd years, and that`s how we`re going to
continue to do it. The only way that works is if you take a longer time horizon.
2. How do you go about assigning valuations to companies in the Net sector?
That`s been an elusive task.
Fitzmaurice: The way we think about valuation is there are bands where it`s
outrageously cheap and bands where they`re outrageously expensive. Those
are extremes, and we saw those extremes. We`re seeing the
unreasonableness at the bottom here in terms of valuation, and we saw the
unreasonableness at the top.
In between, we focus less on valuation, because if you get it right, you miss
the mark so wildly as to what a company can earn, that the valuation always
appears expensive.
If you go back to the early networking phase of Cisco (CSCO:Nasdaq - news -
commentary), Wellfleet, Ascend, Cascade, they were all viewed as
exceedingly expensive. Yet if you held all of them, you would have made
money through their IPO through to consolidation. But obviously if you`d have
held Cisco, it didn`t matter where you bought over the last 10 years, until the
last six to nine months -- you were always fine. And there were huge cycles.
Typically every 12 to 14 months, there were 40% to 50% corrections in Cisco.
So our view is, outside of the 10% bottom and 10% top, valuation becomes
less relevant. What`s more relevant is: first, size of market opportunity;
second, does this company have disruptive, sustainable technology; and
third, do they have the management to execute it?
The Bumpiest of Rides
In each calendar year the Amerindo Tech fund has either
beaten or trailed more than 90% of its peers.
Source: Morningstar. Returns through June 29.
3. If there are bands where some companies are incredibly expensive and
other companies are incredibly cheap, what are a couple of companies that
go on each end?
Fitzmaurice: Nothing`s exceedingly expensive. Well, we are less interested
in companies that are taking advantage of older technology, which we refer to
as client/server based companies. Arguably, they`re expensive because we
think the fundamentals continue to problematic.
Folks that are more related to the PC world.
Fitzmaurice: Yes. Conversely, there are companies that are taking
advantage of the Internet as a medium which are dramatically undervalued as
you look out 18 months. When you get out further, three to five years, it`s
ridiculous.
Take even a difficult sector like the telco-infrastructure space. Companies like
Sycamore Networks (SCMR:Nasdaq - news - commentary) and Corvis
(CRVS:Nasdaq - news - commentary). Corvis has about $850 million in cash;
it`s trading at a $1.3 billion rate. That implies $350 million to $400 million in
enterprise value. And if you take a discount to 2002`s estimate to $200
million, which is about a 40% or 50% whack to the current estimate -- I think,
that`s my recollection -- you end up with the stock trading off of 2002 at two
times 2002`s heavily discounted revenues that have already been cut.
4. I know you folks look into the private market to dig up the big trends in
new technology. What are you seeing now?
Fitzmaurice: It`s our view that storage is going to be a huge area. There`s no
real secret in that, but most of the innovation on the storage side will come
from great private companies.
We like wireless, too. We haven`t lost sight of the fact that wireless is going
to be very important. As a result we continue to look at chip companies that
are going to provide the building blocks for wireless services systems
companies.
Have you folks been taking stakes in private companies?
Fitzmaurice: Yeah. We continue to spend a large amount of time paying
attention to the opportunities in the private space. Now, as the investor you
have a lot more leverage in both price and terms.
The rate of technological innovation in the private market is going to continue.
But the VCs and late-stage investors are all just going to be a lot more
selective about the disruptive technology companies that get funded.
One needs to pay close attention to the private companies because there are
a lot of great companies that will be funded that`ll have disruptive technologies
that`ll be very successful over the next two to three years.
Are these companies potentially a threat to public data-storage companies
that we already know about that are public?
Fitzmaurice: Generally speaking, the public companies that exist out there
all are in the cross hairs of the private companies. EMC (EMC:NYSE - news -
commentary) has issues, as far as we are concerned, with new technology
companies that have been financed and are working on moving forward.
However, don`t underestimate just how difficult it is to break in and how long it
takes an end-user to adopt a new technology. What EMC does for a living is
not easy, and they`ve got great relationships with their customers. But
ultimately, in our view, technology wins out; it`s just a matter of time.
5. What`s your advice to investors who have been burned by technology the
past 12 to 18 months who might not want to keep a market weighting in the
sector through this downturn?
Fitzmaurice: Look to both price and fundamentals. We continue to be in the
very early stages of a phenomenal sea change in terms of technology. It`s
evidenced every day in how we live and do our business.
All that happened is that stocks got to prices that were unreasonable and now
they`ve gone to the other extreme on the bottom. It doesn`t speak to,
fundamentally, what`s going on in technology.
Are there issues with overspending in the telco sector that need to be worked
through? Yes. Are there issues with a weak economy that need to be sort of
ground through and get to the other side? Absolutely. But it doesn`t change
the fact that the technological change brought on by the Internet is here to
stay and we`re in the very early stages of it. When we move through those
kinds of issues, there`ll be an explosive rebound of not only revenues, but
earnings as well. You`ll see these companies being moonshots from here.
6. Do you mind playing a little word association?
I`ll mention a stock, and you tell me if you own it
and what your impressions are. Let`s start with
Yahoo! (YHOO:Nasdaq - news - commentary).
Fitzmaurice: We own Yahoo!. We think that
Yahoo! is going to be one of the long-term winners
in this space, and we think that [Chief Executive]
Terry Semel is the guy to get it done.
Ariba (ARBA:Nasdaq - news - commentary).
Fitzmaurice: We own Ariba. We`ve suffered
through an enormous decline in Ariba, but we
continue to think that B2B is an extraordinary
opportunity and that Ariba`s a company that is
well situated.
The contraction in spending by IT departments
has hurt all of the companies in the B2B
infrastructure software space. Ariba was growing
at 100 miles an hour, and when it hit the wall it
looked like a large train wreck.
Ariba is a company ... we continue to care about. Our philosophy says that
out of 10 stocks, there are going to be two or three large winners. You`ve got
to let your winners run.
The natural corollary is you`ve got to allow your losers to fail. So, do we know
yet whether Ariba is going to go from 5 back to 50 or 100? No. Are we willing
to stand around and take up the pain? Yeah, for the time being, we`re willing
to stand around and take the pain. Usually the amount of time that we`re
willing to take the pain has been a lot longer than other investors.
The adjunct to this is that we don`t miss Cisco, we don`t miss AOL
(AOL:NYSE - news - commentary), we don`t miss eBay (EBAY:Nasdaq -
news - commentary). We could have very easily blown out eBay when all B2C
companies were painted with the broad-brush stroke that said that B2C was
going to fail. We didn`t.
Right. How about a company you mentioned a couple of times: Sycamore.
Fitzmaurice: We own Sycamore; we continue to be very favorable on
Sycamore. Again, we think that they`re close to having a new box that`s going
to put them in a position to be a lot more competitive. Over the next six to 12
months, we think Sycamore`s going to be a huge winner from a product
standpoint and that`ll translate into revenues and earnings.
Amazon (AMZN:Nasdaq - news - commentary).
Fitzmaurice: We hold Amazon. It`s been a name that we focus less time on
simply because I think [Amerindo fund skipper] Alberto [Vilar] has been
unclear as to whether [Amazon founder and CEO] Jeff Bezos` way of running
the business was as closely aligned with what Wall Street wanted.
7. Do you think that this downside cycle in tech will be a bit more protracted
because perhaps it was a bit more protracted on the upside?
Fitzmaurice: Not necessarily. We don`t know yet whether or not April 4 was
the bottom on the Nasdaq. If it turns out that was the bottom, it will have
proven to be a lot like a normal cycle. What ends up happening is you have a
two-quarter correction, and then it can trade sort of all over the map for several
quarters, and then there`s a spurt that occurs, so it`ll be a two- to three-quarter
spurt where a tremendous amount of performance will be garnered.
You just don`t know. When you look at the chart you`ll see it: The
performance will be up over 100% to 400% over a 12-quarter time horizon that
could have come in two to three disparate quarters and the rest have been
relatively flattish or even down.
8. Every investor where they look at the returns of the past few years can say,
"How did I overestimate this trend or company?" Or, conversely, "How did I
underestimate this trend or company?" From where you sit, what do you think
people are missing today?
Fitzmaurice: This talk about the Internet bubble, this talk about the demise
of the dot-coms -- that it was all folly -- that`s stuff that misses the point. Was
there excess spending? Were there too many companies that were financed?
Absolutely.
But it misses the point that there are more growing companies that have been
created, and will be created, because of what`s going on with the Internet.
People are missing that the downturn does not lead you to the conclusion
that it was all folly. Quite the contrary.
It`s so real that [General Electric Chairman] Jack Welch continues to talk
about moving every aspect of their business to the Internet. It`s so real that
Target keeps talking about spending hundreds of millions of dollars to move
their business onto the Internet.
These are legitimate, brick-and-mortar companies saying that the Internet is
going to drive revenues and reduce costs. We`re just scratching the surface
on that, so the opportunity is absolutely enormous for the next 10 years.
9. The negativity swirling around tech is just as palpable as the optimism was
not that long ago. What`s going to get us out of this downturn?
Fitzmaurice: I think you`re starting to see some of it. It is useful to look at
the B2C space. If you were talking to folks 12 months ago, the thought of
owning a B2C company or financing a B2C private company would have been
ludicrous.
You ought to have your readers look up eBay, Homestore (HOMS:Nasdaq -
news - commentary); priceline (PCLN:Nasdaq - news - commentary) was a
$1 stock, now looking terrific. That`s not simply because the sentiment has
changed; it`s rooted in the fact that the fundamentals are pretty good.
What will help change the sentiment is that you`ll see a smattering of
companies start to say that business is OK, we`re starting to meet lowered
expectations. That will be followed by a couple of companies that`ll say,
Geez, we`re actually going to exceed our expectations because we brought
the bar down low enough so that we`re actually now exceeding expectations.
And you start to see strength begets strength.
So that`s how it will play itself out.
What are your thoughts on priceline?
Fitzmaurice: priceline`s one that we had owned a big position in. We
continue to hold some priceline, and it`s interesting to see that the
fundamentals have turned out to be OK. In the travel segments, you`ve seen
what Expedia (EXPE:Nasdaq - news - commentary) has done, so the
category turns out to be a pretty legitimate, enormous and lucrative category.
One of the players in the category is priceline.
And as a result, you`ve seen the stock trade from $1 to $7.50 [it closed
Monday at $9.91]. Yeah, I can do the math; it used to trade at $100. By the
same token it does demonstrate that the company has real revenues and is
growing relatively rapidly, based on reasonable expectations.
10. If you had to name three "winners" within your area, what would they be
and why?
Fitzmaurice: Brocade Communications (BRCD:Nasdaq - news -
commentary), eBay and Homestore.com.
Why Brocade?
Fitzmaurice: Storage is becoming more and more important to the
enterprise; the costs associated with it are enormous. Brocade created a new
way to accomplish that. The barriers to entry, as I stated earlier, are
enormous. So once you can prove [you have] a better mousetrap with enough
enterprise customers and establish that the mousetrap is better, you create
this wave that you can take advantage of. We think Brocade has been
successful at breaking in to what is normally the domain of EMC and IBM
(IBM:NYSE - news - commentary).
Brocade is one that we think the secular trends and their technology lend
themselves to being a long-term winner.
How about eBay?
Fitzmaurice: eBay was the cute little company that was selling tchotchkes,
turned itself into a frictionless model with little inventory, moved upscale and
is selling much larger ticket items and is going to be able to somehow
leverage from sort of C2C [consumer-to-consumer], B2C to B2B. So the
opportunity for that frictionless model is staggering.
And Homestore?
Fitzmaurice: I don`t think Homestore gets enough attention for the enormous
market that it plays. The real estate market is absolutely enormous, and they
have a relatively frictionless business model. They dominate the space.
They can continue to grow and expand service offerings; their revenue and
earnings opportunities are going to be explosive. We will wildly underestimate
how well they can do.
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no comment...
Yes, the Internet has changed the way we work and live, but Net stocks have
been a flaming money pit over the past 18 months. Their collapse has
Matthew Fitzmaurice and his colleagues at Amerindo Investment Advisors
on the canvas, but he sees reasons to keep swinging.
Fitzmaurice, the New York money management shop`s chief investment
officer, concedes that things aren`t looking rosy given the cliff-dive in tech and
telecom spending at big companies. After all, the Amerindo Technology fund,
perhaps the most aggressive Net fund out there, is down more than 64% over
the past 12 months, compared with a 53% loss for the average tech fund,
according to Morningstar.
Despite the carnage, Fitzmaurice says the days of steep Net-stock gains
didn`t end last year. Few Net companies will become juggernauts, he says,
but those that do will post boffo gains once the malaise passes. Lest we
forget, the firm`s Technology fund followed its 84.7% gain in 1998 with a 249%
gain in 1999. Though the fund is less than 5 years old, the firm`s principals,
led by Alberto Vilar, have been fishing in the emerging tech pool since 1980.
Their fund is too aggressive for most investors, but few if any have more
experience investing in this corner of the market. If you`re a Net believer, or a
skeptic who wants to hear the bull`s case, Fitzmaurice`s perspective is a
must-read.
1. Tech and telecom-equipment spending is
down this year; it could be down next year.
What`s your case for tech today?
Fitzmaurice: We have to retest the basic
premise: Does the Internet as a medium
change the way we live and do business? Our
answer comes back unequivocally: It does.
The wealth that`s going to be created from
this is going to dwarf anything we`ve
heretofore seen.
We want to be invested in companies that fall
into essentially three categories. The first
category is infrastructure companies that
allow you to take advantage of this new
medium. The second contains two categories
that I`ll lump together: B2B and B2C
[business-to-business and
business-to-consumer, respectively]. The final
category relates to those companies that are
facilitating the overall telco infrastructure.
It`s been a brutal environment in these areas.
What time frame are you using as a marker
for when things start to come back?
Fitzmaurice: The relevant time frame is at a
minimum 12 to 18 months. But what we like to think about is three to five
years, maybe out as long as seven years.
We`re making investments in companies. We stay relatively narrow, so we
have 20-some odd companies that we care about. In a group of 10 of those
companies, we assume that two to three of them are going to be huge returns
-- five times, 10 times -- several more will be percentage returns 20% to
100%, and the balance becomes largely irrelevant.
That`s how we`ve done it for 20-some odd years, and that`s how we`re going to
continue to do it. The only way that works is if you take a longer time horizon.
2. How do you go about assigning valuations to companies in the Net sector?
That`s been an elusive task.
Fitzmaurice: The way we think about valuation is there are bands where it`s
outrageously cheap and bands where they`re outrageously expensive. Those
are extremes, and we saw those extremes. We`re seeing the
unreasonableness at the bottom here in terms of valuation, and we saw the
unreasonableness at the top.
In between, we focus less on valuation, because if you get it right, you miss
the mark so wildly as to what a company can earn, that the valuation always
appears expensive.
If you go back to the early networking phase of Cisco (CSCO:Nasdaq - news -
commentary), Wellfleet, Ascend, Cascade, they were all viewed as
exceedingly expensive. Yet if you held all of them, you would have made
money through their IPO through to consolidation. But obviously if you`d have
held Cisco, it didn`t matter where you bought over the last 10 years, until the
last six to nine months -- you were always fine. And there were huge cycles.
Typically every 12 to 14 months, there were 40% to 50% corrections in Cisco.
So our view is, outside of the 10% bottom and 10% top, valuation becomes
less relevant. What`s more relevant is: first, size of market opportunity;
second, does this company have disruptive, sustainable technology; and
third, do they have the management to execute it?
The Bumpiest of Rides
In each calendar year the Amerindo Tech fund has either
beaten or trailed more than 90% of its peers.
Source: Morningstar. Returns through June 29.
3. If there are bands where some companies are incredibly expensive and
other companies are incredibly cheap, what are a couple of companies that
go on each end?
Fitzmaurice: Nothing`s exceedingly expensive. Well, we are less interested
in companies that are taking advantage of older technology, which we refer to
as client/server based companies. Arguably, they`re expensive because we
think the fundamentals continue to problematic.
Folks that are more related to the PC world.
Fitzmaurice: Yes. Conversely, there are companies that are taking
advantage of the Internet as a medium which are dramatically undervalued as
you look out 18 months. When you get out further, three to five years, it`s
ridiculous.
Take even a difficult sector like the telco-infrastructure space. Companies like
Sycamore Networks (SCMR:Nasdaq - news - commentary) and Corvis
(CRVS:Nasdaq - news - commentary). Corvis has about $850 million in cash;
it`s trading at a $1.3 billion rate. That implies $350 million to $400 million in
enterprise value. And if you take a discount to 2002`s estimate to $200
million, which is about a 40% or 50% whack to the current estimate -- I think,
that`s my recollection -- you end up with the stock trading off of 2002 at two
times 2002`s heavily discounted revenues that have already been cut.
4. I know you folks look into the private market to dig up the big trends in
new technology. What are you seeing now?
Fitzmaurice: It`s our view that storage is going to be a huge area. There`s no
real secret in that, but most of the innovation on the storage side will come
from great private companies.
We like wireless, too. We haven`t lost sight of the fact that wireless is going
to be very important. As a result we continue to look at chip companies that
are going to provide the building blocks for wireless services systems
companies.
Have you folks been taking stakes in private companies?
Fitzmaurice: Yeah. We continue to spend a large amount of time paying
attention to the opportunities in the private space. Now, as the investor you
have a lot more leverage in both price and terms.
The rate of technological innovation in the private market is going to continue.
But the VCs and late-stage investors are all just going to be a lot more
selective about the disruptive technology companies that get funded.
One needs to pay close attention to the private companies because there are
a lot of great companies that will be funded that`ll have disruptive technologies
that`ll be very successful over the next two to three years.
Are these companies potentially a threat to public data-storage companies
that we already know about that are public?
Fitzmaurice: Generally speaking, the public companies that exist out there
all are in the cross hairs of the private companies. EMC (EMC:NYSE - news -
commentary) has issues, as far as we are concerned, with new technology
companies that have been financed and are working on moving forward.
However, don`t underestimate just how difficult it is to break in and how long it
takes an end-user to adopt a new technology. What EMC does for a living is
not easy, and they`ve got great relationships with their customers. But
ultimately, in our view, technology wins out; it`s just a matter of time.
5. What`s your advice to investors who have been burned by technology the
past 12 to 18 months who might not want to keep a market weighting in the
sector through this downturn?
Fitzmaurice: Look to both price and fundamentals. We continue to be in the
very early stages of a phenomenal sea change in terms of technology. It`s
evidenced every day in how we live and do our business.
All that happened is that stocks got to prices that were unreasonable and now
they`ve gone to the other extreme on the bottom. It doesn`t speak to,
fundamentally, what`s going on in technology.
Are there issues with overspending in the telco sector that need to be worked
through? Yes. Are there issues with a weak economy that need to be sort of
ground through and get to the other side? Absolutely. But it doesn`t change
the fact that the technological change brought on by the Internet is here to
stay and we`re in the very early stages of it. When we move through those
kinds of issues, there`ll be an explosive rebound of not only revenues, but
earnings as well. You`ll see these companies being moonshots from here.
6. Do you mind playing a little word association?
I`ll mention a stock, and you tell me if you own it
and what your impressions are. Let`s start with
Yahoo! (YHOO:Nasdaq - news - commentary).
Fitzmaurice: We own Yahoo!. We think that
Yahoo! is going to be one of the long-term winners
in this space, and we think that [Chief Executive]
Terry Semel is the guy to get it done.
Ariba (ARBA:Nasdaq - news - commentary).
Fitzmaurice: We own Ariba. We`ve suffered
through an enormous decline in Ariba, but we
continue to think that B2B is an extraordinary
opportunity and that Ariba`s a company that is
well situated.
The contraction in spending by IT departments
has hurt all of the companies in the B2B
infrastructure software space. Ariba was growing
at 100 miles an hour, and when it hit the wall it
looked like a large train wreck.
Ariba is a company ... we continue to care about. Our philosophy says that
out of 10 stocks, there are going to be two or three large winners. You`ve got
to let your winners run.
The natural corollary is you`ve got to allow your losers to fail. So, do we know
yet whether Ariba is going to go from 5 back to 50 or 100? No. Are we willing
to stand around and take up the pain? Yeah, for the time being, we`re willing
to stand around and take the pain. Usually the amount of time that we`re
willing to take the pain has been a lot longer than other investors.
The adjunct to this is that we don`t miss Cisco, we don`t miss AOL
(AOL:NYSE - news - commentary), we don`t miss eBay (EBAY:Nasdaq -
news - commentary). We could have very easily blown out eBay when all B2C
companies were painted with the broad-brush stroke that said that B2C was
going to fail. We didn`t.
Right. How about a company you mentioned a couple of times: Sycamore.
Fitzmaurice: We own Sycamore; we continue to be very favorable on
Sycamore. Again, we think that they`re close to having a new box that`s going
to put them in a position to be a lot more competitive. Over the next six to 12
months, we think Sycamore`s going to be a huge winner from a product
standpoint and that`ll translate into revenues and earnings.
Amazon (AMZN:Nasdaq - news - commentary).
Fitzmaurice: We hold Amazon. It`s been a name that we focus less time on
simply because I think [Amerindo fund skipper] Alberto [Vilar] has been
unclear as to whether [Amazon founder and CEO] Jeff Bezos` way of running
the business was as closely aligned with what Wall Street wanted.
7. Do you think that this downside cycle in tech will be a bit more protracted
because perhaps it was a bit more protracted on the upside?
Fitzmaurice: Not necessarily. We don`t know yet whether or not April 4 was
the bottom on the Nasdaq. If it turns out that was the bottom, it will have
proven to be a lot like a normal cycle. What ends up happening is you have a
two-quarter correction, and then it can trade sort of all over the map for several
quarters, and then there`s a spurt that occurs, so it`ll be a two- to three-quarter
spurt where a tremendous amount of performance will be garnered.
You just don`t know. When you look at the chart you`ll see it: The
performance will be up over 100% to 400% over a 12-quarter time horizon that
could have come in two to three disparate quarters and the rest have been
relatively flattish or even down.
8. Every investor where they look at the returns of the past few years can say,
"How did I overestimate this trend or company?" Or, conversely, "How did I
underestimate this trend or company?" From where you sit, what do you think
people are missing today?
Fitzmaurice: This talk about the Internet bubble, this talk about the demise
of the dot-coms -- that it was all folly -- that`s stuff that misses the point. Was
there excess spending? Were there too many companies that were financed?
Absolutely.
But it misses the point that there are more growing companies that have been
created, and will be created, because of what`s going on with the Internet.
People are missing that the downturn does not lead you to the conclusion
that it was all folly. Quite the contrary.
It`s so real that [General Electric Chairman] Jack Welch continues to talk
about moving every aspect of their business to the Internet. It`s so real that
Target keeps talking about spending hundreds of millions of dollars to move
their business onto the Internet.
These are legitimate, brick-and-mortar companies saying that the Internet is
going to drive revenues and reduce costs. We`re just scratching the surface
on that, so the opportunity is absolutely enormous for the next 10 years.
9. The negativity swirling around tech is just as palpable as the optimism was
not that long ago. What`s going to get us out of this downturn?
Fitzmaurice: I think you`re starting to see some of it. It is useful to look at
the B2C space. If you were talking to folks 12 months ago, the thought of
owning a B2C company or financing a B2C private company would have been
ludicrous.
You ought to have your readers look up eBay, Homestore (HOMS:Nasdaq -
news - commentary); priceline (PCLN:Nasdaq - news - commentary) was a
$1 stock, now looking terrific. That`s not simply because the sentiment has
changed; it`s rooted in the fact that the fundamentals are pretty good.
What will help change the sentiment is that you`ll see a smattering of
companies start to say that business is OK, we`re starting to meet lowered
expectations. That will be followed by a couple of companies that`ll say,
Geez, we`re actually going to exceed our expectations because we brought
the bar down low enough so that we`re actually now exceeding expectations.
And you start to see strength begets strength.
So that`s how it will play itself out.
What are your thoughts on priceline?
Fitzmaurice: priceline`s one that we had owned a big position in. We
continue to hold some priceline, and it`s interesting to see that the
fundamentals have turned out to be OK. In the travel segments, you`ve seen
what Expedia (EXPE:Nasdaq - news - commentary) has done, so the
category turns out to be a pretty legitimate, enormous and lucrative category.
One of the players in the category is priceline.
And as a result, you`ve seen the stock trade from $1 to $7.50 [it closed
Monday at $9.91]. Yeah, I can do the math; it used to trade at $100. By the
same token it does demonstrate that the company has real revenues and is
growing relatively rapidly, based on reasonable expectations.
10. If you had to name three "winners" within your area, what would they be
and why?
Fitzmaurice: Brocade Communications (BRCD:Nasdaq - news -
commentary), eBay and Homestore.com.
Why Brocade?
Fitzmaurice: Storage is becoming more and more important to the
enterprise; the costs associated with it are enormous. Brocade created a new
way to accomplish that. The barriers to entry, as I stated earlier, are
enormous. So once you can prove [you have] a better mousetrap with enough
enterprise customers and establish that the mousetrap is better, you create
this wave that you can take advantage of. We think Brocade has been
successful at breaking in to what is normally the domain of EMC and IBM
(IBM:NYSE - news - commentary).
Brocade is one that we think the secular trends and their technology lend
themselves to being a long-term winner.
How about eBay?
Fitzmaurice: eBay was the cute little company that was selling tchotchkes,
turned itself into a frictionless model with little inventory, moved upscale and
is selling much larger ticket items and is going to be able to somehow
leverage from sort of C2C [consumer-to-consumer], B2C to B2B. So the
opportunity for that frictionless model is staggering.
And Homestore?
Fitzmaurice: I don`t think Homestore gets enough attention for the enormous
market that it plays. The real estate market is absolutely enormous, and they
have a relatively frictionless business model. They dominate the space.
They can continue to grow and expand service offerings; their revenue and
earnings opportunities are going to be explosive. We will wildly underestimate
how well they can do.
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LONDON (dpa-AFX) - Die Analysten von Merrill Lynch haben die französische
Wanadoo SA zum bestpositionierten europäischen Internet-Anbieter erklärt. In einer
am Donnerstag in London veröffentlichten Sektoranalyse wiesen sie darauf hin, dass
der auf den Aktien der Branche lastende Druck nachlasse und der "brutale
Ausleseprozess" unter den Unternehmen zu Ende gehe.
Die Bewertungen der Internet-Anbieter seien "vernünftiger als in der Vergangenheit,
wenn auch in keinster Weise `billig`", schrieben die Experten. Allerdings seien sie auf
Grundlage bestimmter Kennzahlen um 30 Prozent billiger als Halbleiterwerte. Zudem
hätten sich die vergleichbaren US-Internetaktien in den letzten drei Monaten um 18
Prozent nach oben bewegt.
VON WANADOO GERINGSTER EBITDA-VERLUST IM ZWEITEN QUARTAL
ERWARTET
Von Wanadoo versprechen sich die Analysten für das zweite Quartal das höchste Umsatzwachstum: 16 Prozent im
Vergleich zum Vorjahresquartal. Zudem habe das Internet-Unternehmen mit 34 Mio. Euro den geringsten Verlust vor
Steuern, Zinsen und Abschreibungen (EBITDA) unter den beobachteten Unternehmen.
Die Terra Lycos SA wird ihrer Ansicht nach für das zweite Quartal einen Umsatzrückgang von fünf Prozent
ausweisen. Die restlichen Geschäftszahlen dürften sich im Einklang mit den Prognosen des Unternehmens befinden,
hieß es. Von T-Online erwarten sie, dass das Unternehmen seine Prognosen für das zweite Quartal und darüber
hinaus erfüllen wird./hi/af
Wanadoo SA zum bestpositionierten europäischen Internet-Anbieter erklärt. In einer
am Donnerstag in London veröffentlichten Sektoranalyse wiesen sie darauf hin, dass
der auf den Aktien der Branche lastende Druck nachlasse und der "brutale
Ausleseprozess" unter den Unternehmen zu Ende gehe.
Die Bewertungen der Internet-Anbieter seien "vernünftiger als in der Vergangenheit,
wenn auch in keinster Weise `billig`", schrieben die Experten. Allerdings seien sie auf
Grundlage bestimmter Kennzahlen um 30 Prozent billiger als Halbleiterwerte. Zudem
hätten sich die vergleichbaren US-Internetaktien in den letzten drei Monaten um 18
Prozent nach oben bewegt.
VON WANADOO GERINGSTER EBITDA-VERLUST IM ZWEITEN QUARTAL
ERWARTET
Von Wanadoo versprechen sich die Analysten für das zweite Quartal das höchste Umsatzwachstum: 16 Prozent im
Vergleich zum Vorjahresquartal. Zudem habe das Internet-Unternehmen mit 34 Mio. Euro den geringsten Verlust vor
Steuern, Zinsen und Abschreibungen (EBITDA) unter den beobachteten Unternehmen.
Die Terra Lycos SA wird ihrer Ansicht nach für das zweite Quartal einen Umsatzrückgang von fünf Prozent
ausweisen. Die restlichen Geschäftszahlen dürften sich im Einklang mit den Prognosen des Unternehmens befinden,
hieß es. Von T-Online erwarten sie, dass das Unternehmen seine Prognosen für das zweite Quartal und darüber
hinaus erfüllen wird./hi/af
Wer wagt`s und verkauft heute seine allerletzten LE-Aktien, damit endlich der Kurs unter 1 Euro fällt
Willkommen im Club der Penny-Stocks!
auf gehts auf neue tiefskurse - ich glaube, das wird mein erster wert- in dem ich vollständig mein geld verbrennen werde.
grüße
grüße
@de22
juhu, ich bin der BESTE, denn ich bin seit EMISSION dabei und habe ALLES verbrannt was in Lycos steckte...habe damals halt einfach blauäugig gezeichnet und nie verkauft .... jajaja ALLES WEEEG !!!! hurraaaaa, endlich !
juhu, ich bin der BESTE, denn ich bin seit EMISSION dabei und habe ALLES verbrannt was in Lycos steckte...habe damals halt einfach blauäugig gezeichnet und nie verkauft .... jajaja ALLES WEEEG !!!! hurraaaaa, endlich !
Herzliches Beileid
nö, ich bin nicht seit der emission drin ... erst seit 3,5 . aber die paar mark machens nun auch nicht mehr, um da jetzt noch rauszuschmeißen ...
grüße
grüße
@namibiamichael
danke, habe mich mit diesem verlust aber schon lange abgefunden
@de22
sieht bei mir jetzt nicht anders aus, ich lass die einfach auf ewig in meinem depot verotten. tja, bin halt erst seit 1,5 jahren an der börse dabei und habe zum denkbar schlechtesten zeitpunkt angefangen, aber ich betrachte alle meine verluste (die für einen armen studenten wie mich erheblich sind) als lehrgeld, denn wer an der börse investiert ist selber schuld
danke, habe mich mit diesem verlust aber schon lange abgefunden
@de22
sieht bei mir jetzt nicht anders aus, ich lass die einfach auf ewig in meinem depot verotten. tja, bin halt erst seit 1,5 jahren an der börse dabei und habe zum denkbar schlechtesten zeitpunkt angefangen, aber ich betrachte alle meine verluste (die für einen armen studenten wie mich erheblich sind) als lehrgeld, denn wer an der börse investiert ist selber schuld
Und schon wieder unter 1€.
Und tschüs! Ist mir zu heiss!
@boriz
LE ist doch `ne Bertelsmann-Emission!
Der "Betrug" um 23€ (Em.24 - 1 Rest) müsste doch zum lebenslangen Bezug von Musik, Büchern und Filmen aus dem Bertelsmann-Fundus berechtigen, oder?
Und mp3s sind höchstens Mundraub!
Und für alle Staatsanwälte, Bertelsmänner usw.: DAS WAR NUR`N SCHERZ!
Und tschüs! Ist mir zu heiss!
@boriz
LE ist doch `ne Bertelsmann-Emission!
Der "Betrug" um 23€ (Em.24 - 1 Rest) müsste doch zum lebenslangen Bezug von Musik, Büchern und Filmen aus dem Bertelsmann-Fundus berechtigen, oder?
Und mp3s sind höchstens Mundraub!
Und für alle Staatsanwälte, Bertelsmänner usw.: DAS WAR NUR`N SCHERZ!
mein einstieg : 16 € !!!
jajaajjaj, KZ von 20 hat DB gesagt
..lehrgeld,, der gier......
jajaajjaj, KZ von 20 hat DB gesagt
..lehrgeld,, der gier......
@ boriz: Ich bin zwar schon lange an der Börse, habe aber in den letzten 2 Jahren trotzdem dicke Verluste ; ist halt so.Ein Bekannter meines Kollegen ist schon sehr lange an der Börse, er hat in letzter Zeit schlappe 6 Mio. in den Sand gesetzt. Merke: Nicht immer sind Verluste lediglich Lehrgeld.
Korrektur:
"kostenlosem Bezug" meinte ich!
"kostenlosem Bezug" meinte ich!
[Kurznotiz] Neuer Manager bei Lycos
Dirk Lüth wird Managing Director Content Business
(IW / 06.07.01/13:16 Uhr) Dirk Lüth wird ab dem 1. August neuer "Managing Director Content Business" bei Lycos Europe . Damit ist der promovierte Betriebswirt für die gesamten Channels von Lycos Europe in 13 Ländern verantwortlich.
Dirk Lüth wird Managing Director Content Business
(IW / 06.07.01/13:16 Uhr) Dirk Lüth wird ab dem 1. August neuer "Managing Director Content Business" bei Lycos Europe . Damit ist der promovierte Betriebswirt für die gesamten Channels von Lycos Europe in 13 Ländern verantwortlich.
@w113
hehehe, die sache ist nur, dass ich einen dreck auf alles was von bertelsmann kommt gebe, habe mit lycos ja nun genug erfahrungen gesammelt gezeichnet habe ich bei der deutschen bank, meiner meinung nach gangster, die den kurs bei 11-13 euro (nach der spray übernahme) nochmal dick gepusht haben um günstig auszusteigen. aber ich kann die nicht ankreiden, denn wie bereits erwähnt ist JEDER für seine investments selbst verantwortlich.
@OStribune
fühle mit dir aber egal, is eh druff geschissen, oder ?
@namibiamichael
nun, wenn er 6 mio in den sand setzt, hat er bestimmt mind. nochmal soviel aufm konto...wenn man schon reich ist kann das einem wenig ausmachen aber naja, in meinem falle ist das schon lehrgeld, was aber nicht bedeutet, dass man mit viel erfahrung nicht auch in die scheisse greifen kann, ich habe aber schon was gelernt: BÖRSE IST NICHT BERECHENBAR !!! tja, trotzdem sehe ich in aktien die beste geldanlage, die es gibt, ausserdem bin ich noch noch jung und kann sowas wegstecken, hätte ich eine familie wäre das wohl net so locker zu sehen.
@all
kann sein dass lycos evtl. ein guter zock ist, aber für nicht-zocker ist das ding nichtmal mit der kneifzange anzufassen. ausserdem glaube ich, dass es mit sicherheit selbst zum zocken interessanteres gibt.
so, das musste raus
bORiZ
hehehe, die sache ist nur, dass ich einen dreck auf alles was von bertelsmann kommt gebe, habe mit lycos ja nun genug erfahrungen gesammelt gezeichnet habe ich bei der deutschen bank, meiner meinung nach gangster, die den kurs bei 11-13 euro (nach der spray übernahme) nochmal dick gepusht haben um günstig auszusteigen. aber ich kann die nicht ankreiden, denn wie bereits erwähnt ist JEDER für seine investments selbst verantwortlich.
@OStribune
fühle mit dir aber egal, is eh druff geschissen, oder ?
@namibiamichael
nun, wenn er 6 mio in den sand setzt, hat er bestimmt mind. nochmal soviel aufm konto...wenn man schon reich ist kann das einem wenig ausmachen aber naja, in meinem falle ist das schon lehrgeld, was aber nicht bedeutet, dass man mit viel erfahrung nicht auch in die scheisse greifen kann, ich habe aber schon was gelernt: BÖRSE IST NICHT BERECHENBAR !!! tja, trotzdem sehe ich in aktien die beste geldanlage, die es gibt, ausserdem bin ich noch noch jung und kann sowas wegstecken, hätte ich eine familie wäre das wohl net so locker zu sehen.
@all
kann sein dass lycos evtl. ein guter zock ist, aber für nicht-zocker ist das ding nichtmal mit der kneifzange anzufassen. ausserdem glaube ich, dass es mit sicherheit selbst zum zocken interessanteres gibt.
so, das musste raus
bORiZ
hups es muss natürlich OS@turbine heissen, mein fehler 8)
97 Cent !
Wer jetzt noch Geld hat kaufen - kaufen - kaufen.
Die Entwicklung bei LE sieht genauso aus, wie vorausgesagt.
Mit Verlusten hat LE gerechnet. Allerdings zieht die
allgemeine schlechte Wirtschaftslage den Kurs runter.
Ich vermute LE oder Terra kaufen Aktien (wieder zurück).
Ist doch ein tolles Geschäft. Was passiert, wenn der
Markt nicht mehr die hohen Order hat.
Kaufen bei 0,80 Cent - Verkaufen bei ??.
Oder doch nicht ?
Wer kein Geld hat muß spekulieren.
Wer jetzt noch Geld hat kaufen - kaufen - kaufen.
Die Entwicklung bei LE sieht genauso aus, wie vorausgesagt.
Mit Verlusten hat LE gerechnet. Allerdings zieht die
allgemeine schlechte Wirtschaftslage den Kurs runter.
Ich vermute LE oder Terra kaufen Aktien (wieder zurück).
Ist doch ein tolles Geschäft. Was passiert, wenn der
Markt nicht mehr die hohen Order hat.
Kaufen bei 0,80 Cent - Verkaufen bei ??.
Oder doch nicht ?
Wer kein Geld hat muß spekulieren.
Hi
zuerst was positives: 1. Das war heute wieder ein tolles Wetter.
2. Weit kann Lycos Europe nicht mehr fallen!!!
zuerst was positives: 1. Das war heute wieder ein tolles Wetter.
2. Weit kann Lycos Europe nicht mehr fallen!!!
Habe noch 5 Pfandflaschen gefunden und kann mir jetzt
eine neue Lycos-Aktie kaufen. Ha, ha.
eine neue Lycos-Aktie kaufen. Ha, ha.
Von den von einigen hier im Board prophezeiten 5 € sind wir wohl derzeit weiter weg denn je.
Es ist immer das gleiche Spiel: kurzfristig geht es hoch auf etwas über 80 Cent und dann wieder runter auf ca. 76 Cent.
Wozu sich also bei 80 aufregen? Das Wunschdenken jetzt endlich gehe es beständig nach oben, hat sich bisher immer als Trugschluss erwiesen.
Es ist immer das gleiche Spiel: kurzfristig geht es hoch auf etwas über 80 Cent und dann wieder runter auf ca. 76 Cent.
Wozu sich also bei 80 aufregen? Das Wunschdenken jetzt endlich gehe es beständig nach oben, hat sich bisher immer als Trugschluss erwiesen.
@duane
Ich gebe dir völlig recht. die 80 cent sind eine magische grenze. ich komme nur nicht drauf warum. solange die information von lycos auch nicht ansatzweise als plan-soll erfüllt gewertet werden können, passiert mit dieser aktie garnichts. Für anleger ist sie völlig uninteressant, es gibt bessere investments auch schon günstig zu bekommen und sogar schon mit dividende.
sollte die es nicht bis zum nächsten jahr schaffen, packe ich die erfahrung mit dieser aktie zu den anderen holländern, als da wären:
baan
letsbuyit.com
fokker
usw.
gruß
max
Ich gebe dir völlig recht. die 80 cent sind eine magische grenze. ich komme nur nicht drauf warum. solange die information von lycos auch nicht ansatzweise als plan-soll erfüllt gewertet werden können, passiert mit dieser aktie garnichts. Für anleger ist sie völlig uninteressant, es gibt bessere investments auch schon günstig zu bekommen und sogar schon mit dividende.
sollte die es nicht bis zum nächsten jahr schaffen, packe ich die erfahrung mit dieser aktie zu den anderen holländern, als da wären:
baan
letsbuyit.com
fokker
usw.
gruß
max
@duane,
und glaubst Du immer noch, dass Lycos T-Online etc. übernehmen wird (siehe Eingangsthread)?
und glaubst Du immer noch, dass Lycos T-Online etc. übernehmen wird (siehe Eingangsthread)?
wetten dass?
Lycos heute mit 7% im Plus.
Jetzt geht`s los. T-Online soll sich schon mal warm anziehen. Yahoo sind die nächsten, dann kommt AOL, Microsoft und IBM. Zum Schluß frisst LE noch Bertelsmann...oder was?
Jetzt geht`s los. T-Online soll sich schon mal warm anziehen. Yahoo sind die nächsten, dann kommt AOL, Microsoft und IBM. Zum Schluß frisst LE noch Bertelsmann...oder was?
Hallo Zusammen!
Lycos aktuell ,74 Euro
Das wird heute wieder eine lange grüne Kerze auf der, wie ich glaube, viele kurze Rote folgen werden.
Wenn man sich schon hier engagiert, sollte man sich die 0,66 Euro zumindest gedanklich als Stopp Loss vormerken.
Ich finde Lycos fundamendal stark überteuert. Wenn ich für eine Aktie nur ein 74stel dessen am Stammkapital bekomme was ich zahle, gibt mir das zu denken. Ich glaube das Lycos Europe sich auf ein vernünftigeres Bewertungsniveau als jetzt zubewegen wird.
Gruss, Promethium
Lycos aktuell ,74 Euro
Das wird heute wieder eine lange grüne Kerze auf der, wie ich glaube, viele kurze Rote folgen werden.
Wenn man sich schon hier engagiert, sollte man sich die 0,66 Euro zumindest gedanklich als Stopp Loss vormerken.
Ich finde Lycos fundamendal stark überteuert. Wenn ich für eine Aktie nur ein 74stel dessen am Stammkapital bekomme was ich zahle, gibt mir das zu denken. Ich glaube das Lycos Europe sich auf ein vernünftigeres Bewertungsniveau als jetzt zubewegen wird.
Gruss, Promethium
LE lässt derzeit einige seiner Beschäftigten zu Sicherheitskräften umschulen.
Was hat das denn jetzt zu bedeuten?
Was hat das denn jetzt zu bedeuten?
ganz einfach
um zu verhindern das aufgebrachte Anleger den Laden stürmen
um zu verhindern das aufgebrachte Anleger den Laden stürmen
Lycos Europe: Aktuell 0,62 Euro
Nun ist also die letzte Unterstützung (bei 0,68) nach etlichen Angriffen mürbe geworden und schliesslich mit einem Knall gebrochen. Wie für diesen Fall nicht anders zu erwarten, geht es erstmal beschleunigt nach unten. Mal schauen, wo sich der Kurs von Lycos wieder fangen kann. Aus charttechnischer Sicht wurde jedoch ein klares Verkaufssignal generiert - die Empfehlung lautet verkaufen.
Gruss, Promethium
Nun ist also die letzte Unterstützung (bei 0,68) nach etlichen Angriffen mürbe geworden und schliesslich mit einem Knall gebrochen. Wie für diesen Fall nicht anders zu erwarten, geht es erstmal beschleunigt nach unten. Mal schauen, wo sich der Kurs von Lycos wieder fangen kann. Aus charttechnischer Sicht wurde jedoch ein klares Verkaufssignal generiert - die Empfehlung lautet verkaufen.
Gruss, Promethium
Damit Ihr wisst, in was Ihr besser investiert ...
Wer vor 18 Monaten 1000 Euro in den Neuen Markt
investiert hat, hat sich 8 Monate lang über fallende Kurse
geärgert und heute noch 90 Euro übrig.
Wer vor 18 Monaten 1000 Euro in Beck`s
(das Bier, nicht die Firma) investiert hat,
konnte 18 Monate lang jede Woche
einen Kasten herrliches Spitzen-Pilsener
von Welt genießen und hat heute noch ...
... Leergut für über 200 Euro !!!
Na denn Prost zusammen !!
Ich hab`s ja immer gewusst!
Die meisten Prozente gibts bei Alkohol !
Wer vor 18 Monaten 1000 Euro in den Neuen Markt
investiert hat, hat sich 8 Monate lang über fallende Kurse
geärgert und heute noch 90 Euro übrig.
Wer vor 18 Monaten 1000 Euro in Beck`s
(das Bier, nicht die Firma) investiert hat,
konnte 18 Monate lang jede Woche
einen Kasten herrliches Spitzen-Pilsener
von Welt genießen und hat heute noch ...
... Leergut für über 200 Euro !!!
Na denn Prost zusammen !!
Ich hab`s ja immer gewusst!
Die meisten Prozente gibts bei Alkohol !
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