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[damund]

Schwankungen von 5% - 10% sind ja fast schon die Regel. Sowas war vor vier oder fünf Jahren noch undenkbar - und das soll die neue Aktienkultur sein
Vielleicht sollte man den ganzen Derivatemüll verbieten, und Leerverkäufe gleich mit.
Es stehen doch reale Unternehmen hinter diesen Zahlenspielen.
Oder nicht?
Gruß
damund

[ZittrigeHand]

stimmt.
nur noch geeignet für kurzfristige invests...........aber long!?

[ToraToraTora]

Ja, ne Schießbude.

[Sasila]

Ne verkäste Zockerbude !

Das ist der DAX !

[damund]

Bitte alle einmal kurz heulen. Minimum 5 Heulsmileys

[IgnatzWrobel]

Absurde Börsenwelt: Ich bevorzuge nicht-shortbare unterbewertete Nemax-Teile, die sich momentan wesentlich berechenbarer verhalten.

[damund]

so weit ist es schon gekommen!

[ThaiGuru]

Dieser Bericht vom 18. März 2003, in der englischen Zeitung Evening Standard online Ausgabe, besagt, und vermutet als einzige logische Erklärung, dass die Märkte vom USA "Plunge Protection Team" *PPT* manipuliert wurden.

Sollte man eigentlich unbedingt lesen, respektive sich auf der Zunge vergehen lassen, was diese englische Zeitung da so schreibt, bevor man weiter in Aktien, Dollar, Oel, oder Gold investiert.

Gruss

ThaiGuru



http://www.thisislondon.com/news/business/articles/timid6060…



Plunge protection and rallying shares

Anthony Hilton, Evening Standard

18 March 2003

STOCK markets rallied last week because it looked as if war with Iraq was going to be postponed. Yesterday the markets rallied because it looked like the war was about to begin. The two reasons contradict each other. The explanations do not make sense unless the markets are being rigged.

And who might want to do that? Well the US government would. The last thing President George W Bush needs is for his invasion of Iraq to set off a stock market crash, a collapse in the price of the dollar, a rush into gold or a spike in the price of oil. It is the kind of distraction that could be very unsettling.

The American public`s support for Bush`s Middle East adventure is not so cast-iron strong that he wants to tempt fate. So, according to the conspiracy theorists, the US authorities have been intervening anonymously in the markets to move them in the direction they want and to burn out any short-term speculators positioned the other way.

So do we believe the conspiracy story? Well, it is known that America has a secret standing committee known unofficially as the `plunge protection team` which consists of the President, the Secretary of the Treasury, the Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan, various other senior administration officials and the leading movers and shakers of Wall Street. The official purpose of this committee, as detailed a few years ago in the Washington Post, is to stabilise unruly markets for the greater good of the US as a whole. Seeking to prevent a military operation being undermined by panic in the financial markets would appear to be well within its brief.

The conspiracy theory also seems to fit the facts. The more astute watchers of markets say that the only explanation for what began last week and continued yesterday was a US government-inspired support action to get markets where they wanted before the outbreak of hostilities.

The trick about buying and selling in markets is to complete the trade without moving the price. The massive and sudden surge of activity last week and yesterday only made sense if it was intended to shift the price. Last week and again precisely at 3.30pm yesterday, massive selling undermined the euro on the currency markets and made the dollar correspondingly stronger. To the minute, there was similar sudden heavy selling in the gold market. Last week this bashed the metal`s price from $350 to nearer $330 and yesterday it killed off the recovery.

So much for gold as a safe haven in times of war.

Last week again, heavy selling and officially-inspired rumours of a fleet of loaded Saudi tankers heading this way brought the price of crude back from its peak. Yesterday the price was undermined by helpful rumours that the US government would release some of its vast strategic oil stockpile.

All very convenient, as was the rally in equities led by the New York`s Dow Jones Industrial Average. The Dow, surprisingly, is one of the world`s least sophisticated indices. It is composed of 30 shares but these are not weighted for market capitalisation, so the Dow`s value is much easier to manipulate than Wall Street`s size and importance would suggest.

Because its shares sell for more than $130, one company, 3M, accounts for more than 10% of the Dow`s value. IBM is another such heavyweight. Aggressive buying of these two companies has a remarkable effect on the index - certainly enough to create a bandwagon on to which others will jump. Needless to say, 3M has seen huge volume in recent days.

Convinced? We may not know what really happened for months, or even years. But there has been some astonishingly ham-fisted dealing in recent days if it was not deliberate market manipulation. And given that truth is the first casualty in war, why should we expect markets to be a no-go area for the architects of spin and the conditioners of expectations?

These markets are no place for innocents or innocence.

KKR`s record

IN a recent article on the Safeway bid, I wrote that on the basis of its 2001 report to investors, private equity house Kohlberg Kravis Roberts had `only two seriously profitable investments out of more than 60` in its 26 years of operation.

This is misleading because, while the two investments to which I referred were among the most successful in the history of private equity and contributed a significant proportion of the aggregate $30bn-plus of gains the firm has generated to date for its investors, the majority of the remainder have also been profitable.

[damund]

sorry daß ich hier nen alten Thread hochhole, aber nochmal die (rhetorische) Frage: Hat es das irgendwann schonmal gegeben, daß ein Wert wie Münchner Rück innerhalb von drei Börsentagen 40% verliert? von 81 auf 50 in Nullkommanix?

[ZittrigeHand]

sind ja auch.......damals ........von 50 auf 81,in null komma nix

und !?

[damund]

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