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There’s a lot to sort out here. And just when you think you’ve got a handle on things, one more variable pops into your head that sends it all spinning. Believe me, I won’t claim to understand everything that is happening. I’m going to take my best stab at this but please understand that we are trying to guess Roger and Urban’s master plan and that is obviously under wraps.

First things first. Where I was BEFORE this release. My belief was that Roger and Urban were going to divvy up CMKX’s rights and claims and transfer them all to other vehicles. Cleaner vehicles free of shorting. Basically I believed the plan was to effectively “gut” CMKX and transfer ownership of everything into many, many, many different vehicles. First I believed that Urban would distribute every claim piece by piece – gold, zinc, uranium, copper, oil/gas, potash, etc. Whether it was CIM or UCAD or another entity (possibly a partnership with DeBeers?), I believed that in the end one other company would “buy out” their only remaining rights – diamonds. Effectively this would have distributed all rights to us the shareholders across a broad base of dividends and effectively stairstepped the value of the company, and screwed the short position blow by blow until their complete capitulation with the diamond rights. And then the vehicle which bought the diamond rights would be the one to go public so that Urban continues to be king of diamonds. Anyway enough of that. Things change.

What have we learned from this PR?

Urban is indeed giving. He is giving up 40 billion shares and is refusing to take a dividend on them while refusing payment for them except when the mining is profitable. I think we will continue to see his “giving” nature.

Roger is not only on board but actively partaking in the company’s plan. I must stress that a partner of this level becoming intimately involved enough to take trips of this nature means Roger is not simply filing paperwork. No, he is ACTIVELY engaged in this process. This is bigger than many can imagine.

There was something of significant value on that aerial survey in those 500,000 acres. Otherwise, Urban wouldn’t be wasting his or our time on them. Remember that this is THE MOST ADVANCED, DETAILED SURVEY DONE ON THIS PROPERTY.

This release tells me NOTHING about the trading float. It tells me there are restricted shares. It tells me Urban owned at least 40 billion shares. It tells me there will be 35 billion shares paid over to Nevada Minerals (who is owned by cmkx and UCAD now (who by the way is owned 49% by CMKX) but more on this later). Still I’m left not knowing the trading float. And I think that’s for a reason (more on that too in a bit).

This release tells me that Urban and Roger are very acquisitive.

This release tells me there are so many pieces in place and remaining to be put in place that we need to sit back and watch it all unfold.

THE EMPIRE

For starters, I believe we are on the edge of an empire in mining. There are some that dismiss our mining claims as puffery or horse manure. I believe nothing could be further from the truth. I believe the aerial survey is not simply a “rough idea” of this area’s deposits. I believe it displayed loud and clear the most impressive array of mining rights and claims probably ever seen before. I think well find out more detail about these “anomalies” in due time, possibly with some drilling results contained in a secured warehouse : ) . But I believe Roger didn’t step into the ring for real until that survey was completed and it confirmed everything that was suspected about this property – namely that it may be one of, if not THE, wealthiest properties ever witnessed.

So how do you just one day build an empire. Do you wave a flag and say “Here we are!! Come and get us???” Not really. It’s just not that simple. Particularly when DeBeers is probably flanking you with a potential assault and the hedge funds are slapping your stock price around like a ragdoll. Enter Roger Glenn. Now a master plan for the empire must be assembled. The shorts must be eliminated. An appropriate vehicle or vehicles must be established to handle an empire’s worth of operations. And quite frankly, a pink sheeted CMKX shorted into the ground ain’t gonna cut it!!

IMO what is now becoming more obvious with each release is that a collection of juniors are conglomerating to form a unified empire of rights and claims. UCAD is giving us half ownership of their company. Now we’re giving UCAD a piece of CMKX. We’re all acquiring Nevada Minerals. UCAD owns a majority interest in Juina. I’m guessing United Carina is not far off. I’m guessing Consolidated Pine Channel is not far off. Shane Resources too. Not so sure about Shore Gold but possible. When it’s all said and done, UCAD is looking like a very tasty vehicle to hold an awfully large percentage of our claims … if not perhaps all of them. And what better name for a North American major to be formed than UCAD … U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. So, my thoughts today are that this release is yet another step in the direction of bringing all intended claims under the fold of a separate entity. Nevada Minerals held a biggie. 500k acres. Yeah, that’s a monster, and I’m guessing based on the aerial survey, it’s a bigger monster than any of us expect. I think this release was CRITICAL in acquiring a piece of property of this potential value at this stage. It is all part of the plan to bring these companies and properties together as one.

What else is in store? My thoughts lead me to the PR on December 29, 2003 talking about 2 public companies looking to buyout certain rights and claims from CMKX. Supposedly those buyouts were to be done by the end of January but mysteriously they were put on hold. I believe it was around this time that the REAL plan was actually begun and the talks for any buyouts were scrapped until far greater pieces were in place. And now they are. What are these other claims to be bought out? My best guesses lead me to a buyout of our potash, uranium and oil/gas rights. Someone mentioned POT (NYSE) the other day. Maybe. Our area is also widely known as highly rich in uranium. Others have hinted at map claims that seem to indicate we hold uranium rights. I don’t doubt that uranium would be a wonderful right to sell off for a huge cash infusion given that it is probably so highly regulated I doubt anyone in this new company would care to deal with THAT particular element. And as for oil/gas, I’m guessing that would be another great right to sell off as it doesn’t seem to fit what is developing to be a “precious metals” profile. I’m sure there would be suitors aplenty for all of these rights.

Ok, so back to the PR. Yeah, what about that PR? I offer all of the above as reason enough to say that if you overanalyze this PR you will make yourself ill. There is clearly something MASSIVE going on here. You don’t do the corporate shuffle at this level unless you are bracing for something significant. Roger Glenn does not sit around late at night devising clever corporate ways to burn through Urban’s money just so that he can get his legal fees. No, this is part of a master plan. And if anyone here (including myself) is arrogant enough to think they can get it correct, they are idiots. All we can do is guess and try to keep our eye on the forest and not the trees. Still, a few trees are forming.

INSIGHT #1: IMO we don’t know the OS yet because it wouldn’t do us any good. Anyone noticed how shares are flying back and forth fast and furious between companies? IMO until Urban has stopped giving, THE OS WILL NOT BE KNOWN. It does no good to release it today if it is going to restructure itself every other day. Just yesterday if they put out an OS release it would have read “The OS is X, with Urban owning Y.” Already that has changed. Pay attention to all the swapping going on. It’s incestuous! And until it all settles out and the landscape is clearer, I think we’re going to be waiting for that final OS. My guess is that by the CIM dividend, a LOT more things will have happened. It’s possible we may own many more companies by then. We may have cash dividends. We may receive more shares. We may give more shares. Who knows. Sit back and enjoy. It’s not very often you get to have front row seats to an empire being built IMO.

INSIGHT #2: We own 60% of Nevada Minerals now. UCAD owns 40%. We own 49%ish of UCAD after the dividend. Nevada Minerals owned 5 million shares of UCAD (29% of UCAD). UCAD owns 40 billion shares of us. Are you lost? I sure am. I’d need a degree in Calculus I think to figure out whether we even PAID for this 500k acre property. What I do know is that this property is dirt cheap when you factor in the fact that our right hand is feeding our left hand. What all of this is saying though is that we are becoming a more and more integrated unit with each release. And this is key.

INSIGHT #3: Urban is sending a very loud message to all shareholders. The same man that was retiring billions and billions of shares last year to help us is again helping us. He is paying for this with his shares, giving up his dividends, and refusing to take payment until the property turns a profit. All this horse pucky about Urban dumping on shareholders and diluting shareholders in the market is pure nonsense IMO. First off, he ain’t gonna be doing that in front of Roger or Roger would never have agreed to take him on as a client. And second, he is going out of his way to demonstrate time and again that he WANTS TO HELP US. I’m really believing that all the fanfare from the races about his giving nature is just simply true.

Ok, this is exhausting. The end game IMO is a simultaneous division and amalgamation of companies and claims. I believe the end game is to have at least one major holding company under which most claims will be held. I believe right now that vehicle is most likely UCAD. It is tightly held. Probably a near zero float. And if it continues to rise and stay above the $5 mark, I may start suspecting a nasdaq or nyse listing in the future (6-12 months from now? But maybe with a filing for listing earlier?). I believe though that Roger still has much more information to reveal to us before we see UCAD in its final form. CIM puzzles me a little. I’m not sure if they are simply planning on bringing it public as a zinc company or what. I don’t really have an answer as to that one. I do think we’ll sell some claims. That money may go into the company’s coffers to finance drilling and further acquisitions or it may turn into a cash dividend. I don’t know. Will De Beers join in on this dance? I don’t know. I do find it odd that they filed their corporate articles on May 28 and about 5 weeks later the listing was noted as DQ or in default. Peculiarly, another company using DeBeers’ very same transfer agent popped up within 48 hours of the DQ designation on July 6 under the name Crystalline Minerals (crystalline minerals being diamonds). Is this the entity with which DeBeers plans on doing something with CMKX? Who knows. Just guesswork.

In fact, it’s all guesswork. And that’s probably my final observation. I think there is just no way to know where or how the next move will be made. But I take great comfort in believing that law firms like EdwardsAngell don’t go to these lengths to a) hide a scam, b) cover up wrongdoings, c) get CMKX to the otcbb or d) to do anything for mere POTENTIAL claims. No I believe we are on the cusp of an empire. The pieces are being laid down methodically IMO. One by one, I believe questions will be answered. I also believe a LOT of this will NOT be understood. And that’s fine. Corporate law can be a huge, honking mess particularly when you are attempting to structure what may become a MASSIVE entity. Not everyone is a corporate attorney. And not everyone will understand every move. But again, see the forest instead of the trees. They are clearly pulling together a lot of resources from a lot of companies with a clear plan in mind.

My confidence level is back up over 90% (deductions still for Urban appearing at races – LOL). Jeez, anyone claiming scam at this point is barking in the wind. You just don’t assemble pieces like this unless something real is happening. Scams are hidden and secretive and usually accompanied by a ton of really fluffy press releases. We are seeing NONE of that any more. Straight forward. Dense. Meaty press releases. So dense in fact, that it’s nearly impossible to figure out the weight of each sentence.

Sorry this is so long. The above is all big, huge, flapping, gaping speculation. But I hope it gives some food for thought. They are my best effort at giving an overview of where I see things right now. Each successive PR has caught me offguard so it’s all subject to change once again. I am honestly more excited than I have ever been before. I think we’ll see many more pieces very soon. And I believe I will be in on the ground floor of an empire being built. This next sentence may hurt but it shouldn’t. I believe this may take a year. Don’t get scared. I just think that I’ll have the opportunity to exit in the near future (within a few months) at a massive profit. In fact, enough profit to possibly take care of me for the rest of my life. But I believe if I hang around a bit longer to see this empire reach its full potential, I believe I’ll be able to take care of my kids and their grandkids for the rest of their lives in addition to just myself. It may take a year, but that would be fine by me. That’s just my opinion.

As for the naked shorts, they simply can never survive this assault IMO. Ever. Whenever it is that they fold, good riddance. I think they are simply a bonus that has allowed us to enter at these absurd prices. Man did they ever get snookered. And pay for it royally they will IMO. But I’ve actually stopped caring about them much now. After today’s PR and when I really stopped to think about it, there’s much more going on here that is far more exciting than whenever it is that JEFF is going to get sledgehammered. Believe me I’ll be thrilled to see him go and it will be a great victory against an evil force in the market. But equally as important is watching a true empire take shape. Whether you’re in for 2 months, 6 months, or a year, I think this is going to be the most breathtaking, exhilarating experience you could ever hope to be a part of in the financial markets. I am stocking up on popcorn. Bigtime.

Z

As always, these are my personal opinions.

Hopefully nobody in here is investing anything but "fun" money that they can afford to gamble with.

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[Paul_Muadib]

urseline

denke nicht das durch diesen deal die dividende verwässert wird


a. meines erachtens werden 75 mrd aus dem float/os genommen ! diese sind restricted und mindestens 1 jahr nicht zu sehen! -> mm achtung os ist nochmal geringer geworden

..In order to reduce the dilution to CMKM`s shareholders as a result of this transaction, Urban Casavant, CMKM`s CEO, has agreed to contribute 40 billion shares owned by himself in exchange for an agreement from CMKM stating that Casavant will be paid only if the acquired property actually yields a profit. According to the agreement, Casavant will be paid one-half of the net proceeds from any mining on the property, after paying all associated expenses, up to a maximum aggregate total of US$62 million. CMKM will issue 35 billion new shares of the company to Nevada Minerals Inc. to complete the transaction.


b. wenn ich mich recht erinnere sind restricted share nicht dividendenberechtigt! dies würde unsere dividende erheblich im wert steigen lassen
allein, wenn wir 500-75 abziehen und dann unsere ucad rechnung machen -> schon ein gewinn!!!

mit den restricted und nicht divberechtigt werde ich nochmal verifizieren

paul

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freshmeat # 1622

siehst du vollkommen richtig ! ich bin 80 % lon und 20 % short .....

jeder muß die entwicklung abwarten können. wer seine dividende kassiert kann dann ja verkaufen wenn der PPS entsprechend ist. hat aber nix mit lobbyisten zu tun, jeder ist selbst verantwortlich was er tut ...

auch ich habe so meine erfahrungen gemacht, nicht nur mit pink sheet, und bin jetzt gezwungen zu halten weil teile so tief unten sind daß sich ein verkauf nicht rentiert, dabei ist unter anderem auch WCM vom MDAX ! ansonsten ein sehr solider wert, der in den letzten 15 monaten nur ärger und verdruß bereitet.

gruß urseline

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karlbarl,

fällt mir jetzt erst richtig auf.....

deine bank schreibt ja " bei BBH,NY eingebucht auf deren Namen ... ! "



urseline

[freshmeat]

Hi daggy,
ich bin kein Mießmacher, auch meiner einer ist tiersch gespannt, aber man muß durchaus nochmal das Wort looong mit in den Topf werfen. Ich bin auch in anderen Rohstoffwerten investiert die, ähnlich wie cmkx, noch ganz am Anfang stehen. Bis da mal das erst Nickel, Gold oder eben ein Diamant zu Tage gefördert wird, kann dauern!. Und wenn hier mal der erst Hype vorbei ist, werden alle auf eben diesen Moment blicken der sich nicht von heute auf morgen realisieren und organisieren läßt, auch wenn schon viele Vorbreitungen getroffen wurden. Das ist dann der Moment, wo wieder kräftig von der jeweiligen Lobbymannschaft in den Boards, sagen wir mal, rumgeschmiert wird ohne Rücksicht auf die Sachlage. Also lass Dich bzw. Euch dann nicht verunsichern, sondern setzt auf Eigenrecherche. Ich hab halt auch schon mal in die berühmt berüchtigte Sch.... gelangt, und von daher einfach mal so frei von der Leber weg meine Erfahrungen.
Gruss

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karlbarl,

ich nehme an, deine bank hat sich selbst mit ihren AGB ausgehebelt,

ich selbst habe noch keine antwort erhalten, bestimmt jibbet ne krisensitzung in puncto haftung

urseline

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an alle

ist hier bei w:o bzw hier jemand der mitliest ein studierter RA oder rechtswissenschaftler, der etwas zum thema " Bank sagt ... ihre dividenden sind sicher ... "
dagen kann, insbesondere hinsichtlich einer haftung , wie weitreichend etc etc ? ....

urseline

[karlbarl]

@ursi

ich habe jetzt meine dividende versprochen gekriegt. ich habe ihnen das problem mit dem nakedshorting ausführlich geschildert. und wenn ich sie nicht kriege, dann

ich bewahre diese mail nun im tresor auf

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paul,

wie siehst du das - durch die aktienverschiebungen werde ja auch die dividenden mitverschoben - würde bedeuten daß weniger dividende auf uns zukommt... oder ? oder denke ich falsch ?
ich glaub ich denke falsch, dividende ist dividende, und o/s ist o/s und meine menge ist meine menge, ich bekomme meinen anteil... ????

urseline

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Mahlzeit zusammen!

hört sich ja alles sehr gut an, was pr etc. angeht....ich find irgendwie die ucad aktie nicht, was isn das symbol oder WKN von denen? unter UCAD find ichs nicht.....

hab in ein paar anderen postings auch auf amiboards gelesen, dass cmkx ohne reverse split nie im leben groß steigen wird....könnte mir das mal einer erklären? stehen wir also erstmal vor nem r/s?....

Sf