Kubanische Staatsanleihen von 1937 - 500 Beiträge pro Seite

[powerbaer]

Kann mir jemand verraten wo und wie ich an Kuba Staatsanleihe von 1937 komme ?

[Raulinho]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 21.208.018 von powerbaer am 15.04.06 23:08:38

Schreib eine E-mail an Swen Lorenz
Wie findest Du sein Buch ?
Grüße Raulinho

[Buddah]

Hallo Raulinho
ist das Buch zu empfehlen?
Gruss B.

[CrashKid]

http://www.tschoepe.de/auktion50/auktion50.htm

strg F nach cuba suchen

DA gibts eine von 1967 - echte RARITÄT ;-)

aber was hat´s mit den anleihen von 1937 auf sich ???

[CrashKid]

In June, 1937, the Republic of Cuba floated a $44.4
million note with a forty-year maturity and a 4½ percent
coupon. It is noteworthy that Cuba was able to
issue a note with a forty year maturity, reflecting the
bond market’s faith in the long term stability of the
Cuban Republic. The 4½ percent coupon, which is
low by today’s standards, was offered at 175 basis
points above the current twenty-year U.S. Treasury
note.25 My sense is that with the 1937 Republic of
Cuba debt, implied in the price is the backing of the
United States government, if not financially then
through military intervention.
In March of 1953, the Republic of Cuba floated a
$39 million note with a thirty-year maturity and a 4
percent coupon. Again, it is significant that Cuba
was able to issue a note with a thirty-year maturity.
The 4 percent coupon, also low by today’s standards,
was offered at 150 basis points above the current
twenty-year U.S. Treasury note.26
On Wall Street, pre-Castro government notes are referred
to as “Batista bonds.” This is a misnomer because
the 4½s issued in 1937 pre-date the Batista regime.
Both the Republic of Cuba 4½s of 1937 and
the 4 percent bonds of 1953 have been in continuous
24. Philip Newman, Cuba Before Castro. New Delhi: Foreign Studies Institute, 1965.
25. The Wall Street Journal (March 1, 1953).
26. The Wall Street Journal (March 1, 1953).
default since the 1959 Cuban revolution. A total of
$640,098 had been paid into the defaulted notes’
sinking fund before 1960. In 1988, a bondholder
was unsuccessful at accessing the sinking fund’s money,
and that account remains frozen.27
Trading in pre-Castro bonds on the New York Stock
Exchange was halted on July 6, 1995 pending regulatory
review by the U.S. Treasury concerning the “appropriateness
of the continued listing of the notes.”28
The trading halt appeared to have been linked to a
sudden rise in the price of the bonds in late June,
1995 from 41.5 to 54 percent on the dollar. The
price increase surrounded speculation that Cuba was
entering into debt restructuring negotiations as a way
to access fresh credit. The suspension of trading,
which destroys a note’s value through illiquidity,
thus pre-empts Cuba’s re-entry into the debt markets.
In 1995, a total of 803 trades occurred prior to
the suspension of trading worth $803,000 in face value.

also nicht mehr an NYSE vielleicht ja bei ebay ;-)

[GliderPilot]

Obwohl ich das Buch nicht gelesen habe vermute mal, dass die Anleihen angeblich wieder an Wert gewinnen werden wenn Fidel eines Tages abgesetzt ist. Richtig ?

Die Idee stammt aber ursprünglich von Altmeister Kostolany der alte russischen Staatsanleihen aus der Zarenzeit aufgekauft hat, um nach nach dem Zusammenbruch der UDSSR damit Geld zu verdienen.

[powerbaer]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 21.208.977 von GliderPilot am 16.04.06 14:00:27

Genauso vermutet man. Lorenz meint aber das Fidel nicht unbedingt abgestzt oder sterben muß damit die Anleihen steigen.

Ich hab schon bei Ebay geschaut und auch gegoggelt aber bisher nix gefunden.

Eine Mail an Lorenz ist raus- ich hoffe er Antwortet.

[traders.world]

find die idee gar nicht so schlecht. wie alt ist fidel eigentlich?

wenn der stirbt/gesundheitsbedingt abtritt werden die usa doch bestimmt dafür sorgen dass ihre zigarren ideologisch einwndfrei hergestellt werden.
hab die sache mit kostolany auch gelesen, könnte sich viell. wiederholen?
zumal die meisten aleiheleichen wohl in amerikanischen depots liegen.
poste mal hier ob die irgendwo zu erwerben sind!

[powerbaer]

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2…

Hier kann man was finden, aber das ist nicht der richtige Jahrgang

[MrRipley]

#1

wenn das so weitergeht, bekommst du keine anleihen mehr.

dies nur als hinweis

[GliderPilot]

Wenns sowieso keine zu kaufen gibt ist`s auch egal !

[CrashKid]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 21.209.444 von MrRipley am 16.04.06 16:24:55

aha in solchen threads ist mr. ripley auch zu finden

[stiefelriemen]

Was zahlt der geneigte Trüffelsucher denn derzeit für 1 Anleihe?

[powerbaer]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 21.210.298 von stiefelriemen am 16.04.06 20:48:06

um die 540 US$ die 1000 Dollar Anleihe

[Glasemann]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 21.208.018 von powerbaer am 15.04.06 23:08:38

Dear Sir, I am just planning to establish a catalogue of Cuba bonds. I will show you my actual results and you will see that I have only few information. I beg for your support giving me information about those bonds in form of scans or listings of bonds, if you have such informations. For your help you will have a complete catalogue in the near future.

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Internal and External Loan Bonds of Cuba

Alcres Corporation

Issued bonds ???
Atlantic Fruit & Sugar Company

Issued bonds ???
Banco Formento
Internal Peso Bonds of 1953, due 1963-1964




Central Violeta  Sugar

Issued bonds ???
Consolidated Railroads of Cuba

Issued bonds ???
Cuba Cane Products Corporation, New York

Issued bonds ???
Cuba Company

Issued bonds ???
Cuba National Syndicate

Issued bonds ???
Cuba Northern Railroad

Issued bonds ???
Czarnikow-Rionda Company

Issued bonds ???
Eastern Cuba Sugar Corporation
7_1/2% Fifteen Year Mortgage Sinking Fund Gold Bonds of 1922, due September 1, 1937
Issued 1922: 5.000.000 $, denomination of the bonds: 100, 500 and 1.000$. Principal and interest payable in the City of New York. Trustee: The Chase National Bank of the City of New York. Bonds garuanteed by the Cuba Cane Sugar Corporation, New York. Coupons attached No. 18/ Sept. 1931 – No. 30/ Sept. 1937. The company Eastern Cuba Sugar Corporation was liquidated in 1932/33. A pro rata amount of 304$ of the proceeds of the mortgaged properties was paid in these years for principal and interest. Furthermore a pro rata amount of 13$ for principal and interest was received by the Cuba Cane Sugar Corporation, New York, on the guarantee of the bonds.
Ermita Sugar Company(Compania Azucarera Ermita)
7_1/2% First Mortgage Twenty-Year of 1922- Due 1942
Denomination 1.000$, attached the interest coupons for the years 1929 to 1942.
Financiera Nacional de Cuba
4_1/2% Bonos de la Compania Cubana de Electricidad of 1954 and 1956, due 1975-1981

Havana American Company

Issued bonds ???
Havana Electric Light and Power Companies

Issued bonds ???
Havana Electric Railway Company

Issued bonds ???
Matanzas Blaugas Company, State of Delaware, USA
7% First Mortgage Gold Coupon Bonds of January 1, 1970, Series B – due January 1, 1932
Denomination: 100$, attaches coupons # 13 January 1923 to # 30 January 1932
North American Sugar

Issued bonds ???
Preferred Havana Tobacco

Issued bonds ???
Punta Alegra Sugar

Issued bonds ???
Republic of Cuba (Republica de Cuba External Loan of 1904)
5% Forty Year External Sinking Fund Gold Bonds of 1904, due 1944
Issued 1904: 35.000.000$, denomination: 500, 1.000$, multi-currency loan: $, Pound Sterling, Mark, Francs. The bonds were changed under the Contractor`s Debt Settlement of 1940 in bonds of the Republic of Cuba,4_1/2% External Secured Sinking Fund Bonds of July 1, 1937, due June 30, 1977
Republic of Cuba (Republica de Cuba External Loan of 1909)
4_1/2% Forty Year External Sinking Fund Gold Bonds of 1909, due 1949
Issued 1909: 16.500.000$, thereof 5.500.000$ placed in Germany (Series C), denomination: 1.000$, multi-currency loan: $, Pound Sterling, Mark, Francs. The bonds were changed under the Contractor`s Debt Settlement of 1940 in bonds of the Republic of Cuba,4_1/2% External Secured Sinking Fund Bonds of July 1, 1937, due June 30, 1977
Republic of Cuba (Republica de Cuba External Loan of 1914)
5% External Loan Bonds of 1914
The bonds were changed under the Contractor`s Debt Settlement of 1940 in bonds of the Republic of Cuba,4_1/2% External Secured Sinking Fund Bonds of July 1, 1937, due June 30, 1977
Republic of Cuba (Republica de Cuba External Loan of 1923)
5_1/2% External Serial Bonds of 1923, due June 30, 1933
The bonds were changed under the Contractor`s Debt Settlement of 1940 in bonds of the Republic of Cuba,4_1/2% External Secured Sinking Fund Bonds of July 1, 1937, due June 30, 1977
Republic of Cuba (Republica de Cuba External Loan of 1927)
5_1/2% External Serial Bonds of 1927, due 1934-1937
The bonds were changed under the Contractor`s Debt Settlement of 1940 in bonds of the Republic of Cuba,4_1/2% External Secured Sinking Fund Bonds of July 1, 1937, due June 30, 1977
Republic of Cuba (Republica de Cuba External Loan of 1930)
5_1/2% Public Works Treasury Notes Notes of 1930, due June 30, 1945
Issued 1930: 20.000.000$, the bonds were changed under the Contractor`s Debt Settlement of 1940 in bonds of the Republic of Cuba,4_1/2% External Secured Sinking Fund Bonds of July 1, 1937, due June 30, 1977
Republic of Cuba (Republica de Cuba External Loan of 1930)
5_1/2% Public Works Short Term Notes of 1930, due June 30, 1945
Issued 1930: 20.000.000$, the bonds were changed under the Contractor`s Debt Settlement of 1940 in bonds of the Republic of Cuba,4_1/2% External Secured Sinking Fund Bonds of July 1, 1937, due June 30, 1977
Republic of Cuba (Republica de Cuba External Loan of 1937)
4_1/2% External Secured Sinking Fund Bonds of July 1, 1937, due June 30, 1977
Issued 1937: 85.000.000$, outstanding 1957: 53.218.800$, denomination 100, 500, 1.000$
Republic of Cuba (Republica de Cuba External Loan of 1953)
4% Veteran Courts and Public Works External Secured Sinking Fund Bonds of December 31, 1953, due November 1, 1983
Authorized: 145.000.000$, outstanding 1957: 135.955.00$, denomination 500, 1.000$
Republica de Cuba - 1905
5% Internal Dollar Loan Bonds of 1905 (Emprunt 5% Or Interieur 1905)
Issued: 12.000.000$, denomination: 100$, quoted Paris Stock Exchange, not paid coupons attached from November 18, 1960
Republica de Cuba - 1950
4% Internal Peso Loan Bonds of 1950, due 1980

Republica de Cuba - 1953
1_1/2% Internal Peso Treasury Bonds of 1953, due 1961

Republica de Cuba - 1954
4_1/2% Internal Peso Treasury Bonds of 1954, due 1961

Republica de Cuba – 1954-1956
4_1/2% Internal Peso Treasury Bonds of 1954-1956, due 1984-1986

Republica de Cuba - 1955
3% Internal Peso Treasury Bonds of 1955, due 1956

Republica de Cuba - 1956
Economic & Social Development Bonds of 1956
Issued 350.000.000 Pesos
Riovista Land Corporation

Issued bonds ???
Sugar Estates of Oriente, Incorporated
Gold Bond of 1922
Issued bonds ???
Sugar Estates of Oriente, Incorporated

Issued bonds ???
The Cuba Railroad Company - 1902
5% First Mortgage Fifty Year Gold Bonds of September 18, 1902- Due 1952 (1970)
Denomination: 1.000$, attached the interest coupons # 36 to # 74 June 1970. 1934 Debt Agreement (4%, due 1970). The Cuba Railroad Company was financed and operated by US corporations under franchises from the Cuban government. The company was controlled by the Consolidated Railroads of Cuba, but was nationalized in 1960 as a result of Castro taking over power in Cuba.
The Cuba Railroad Company - 1910
5% Improvement and Equipment Fifty Year Gold Bonds of July, 1. 1910- Due 1960 (1970)
Denomination: 1.000$, attached the interest coupons 1959 to 1970. 1934 Debt Agreement (4%, due 1970). The Cuba Railroad Company was financed and operated by US corporations under franchises from the Cuban government. The company was controlled by the Consolidated Railroads of Cuba, but was nationalized in 1960 as a result of Castro taking over power in Cuba.
The Vertientes - Camaguey Sugar Company of Cuba (Compania Azucarera Vertientes-Camaguey de Cuba (C.A.V.))

a Cuban corporation whose stock was mostly owned by U.S. residents, Issued bonds ???
United Railways of the Havana and Regla Warehouses, Limited (Ferrocarriles Unidos de Havana)

The company's assets were acquired by Ferrocarriles Occidentales de Cuba in 1953. All Cuban railways were nationalised by Castro in 1960. Issued bonds ???
Caribbean Sugar Company, Republic of Cuba
7% First Mortgage Serial Sinking Fund Gold Bonds of August 2, 1926- Due August 1, 1941
Issued 1926: 3.500.000$, Denomination: 1.000$, Trustee: The National Shawmut Bank of Boston. 1929 Caribbean ceased to pay interest on its bonds. Small payments were made to the bondholders at annual intervals between 1942 and 1949. attached an interest payment sheet for the years 1942 to 1959.