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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 29.037.172 von KANTER am 27.04.07 22:38:43

Für Interessenten gehts hier zum I-Hub>>>>>>>>>>>>>

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/Board.asp?Board_ID=5386


Have nice Weekend

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 29.037.263 von KANTER am 27.04.07 22:48:50

Posted by: 2ligit2quit
In reply to: None Date:7/6/2007 12:08:46 PM
Post #of 3822

Very Clear:

1. Ellis is out
2. New Management has taken control
3. Appletree has bought shares on the open market
4. Share have been shorted, up 30000% from last month
5. Share structure is under review by Francis
6. Appletree is currently bringing the fillings up-to-dateThis is a rocketship...This will see new highs..

MARK THIS POST.

[KANTER]

Posted by: Lantz
In reply to: None Date:7/8/2007 3:49:43 AM
Post #of 3932

Just received a message from Frank Manzo:

Dear Sir:

We acquired our interest from Mr. Mark Ellis. Currently Winsted will remain a holding for Appletree. We will be looking for acquisition candidates for Winsted, but the Company (Winsted) has issues with the SEC that need to be taken care of first.


Kind regards,
Francis Manzo
----- Original Message ----- From:
To: <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 2:40 PM
Subject: Winsted Holdings


Good Evening,

I am a stock holder of Winsted Holdings and I have noticed that their website now sports your companies LOGO and contact information. At first glance it would appear that your company has possibly acquired Winsted. If this is the case then that would be fantastic. I was hoping that you could confirm if in fact this was the case or not.

Thank You for your time,

[KANTER]

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R E V E R S E---M E R G E R---O N G O I N G
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http://www.winstedholdings.com

JULY 5, 2007 RESPONSE FROM APPLETREE CAPITAL LTD....

Thank you for your inquiry regarding your investment in Winsted Holdings.

We have acquired our interest from Mr. Mark Ellis, and in the immediate future plan to bring the Company current in its reporting
requirements. The Company also has issues with the SEC with which we are in discussions to correct and deficiencies.

We expect to change Winsted from a "Business Development Company" to a holding company format. The BDC registration requires
additional reporting requirements that are expensive from the company's perspective.

We are in discussion with other parties as to what direction Winsted may take as to acquisitions, but are only in the preliminary stage
at this time.

As we further manage Winsted, please look to the website for updates as we move forward with the business.

With kind regards,
Francis Manzo
President
Winsted Holdings, Inc.

[Schnatzi]

Ok... bin da... Ist der Merger jetzt schon durch? Oder wie ist der Stand?

[KANTER]

Ich denk,das nächste Woche ein PR dazu ruskommen wird!!!!!!


Francis Manzo ist Ceo von APPELTREE CAPITAL und auf Pinksheets steht bei WNSH jner Manzo als neuer Ceo!!!!!!!
Mark Ellis ist raus!!!!!!!!

[KANTER]

Es wird von 120.000.000in Revenues ausgegangen was APPLETREE betrifft!

[KANTER]

Ich vermute mal,das die 2 nicht mehr lange halten wird!!

[KANTER]

Auf der offiziellen Website von Winsted Holdings ist dies zu finden:



Shareholder Notice

The company website is under development. Shareholder inquires are invited to contact:

Francis P. Manzo III
Appletree Capital Ltd.
One Northfield Plaza
Suite 300
Northfield, IL 60093
Phone: [phone]

[e-mail]

Thank You

[KANTER]

Address: c/o: Appletree Capital Ltd.
One Northfield Plaza
Suite 300
Northfield, IL 60093
USA
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Looks like Appletree is getting ready to R/M and drop something in here. One thing is for sure they deal with money and with VC's. 2 deals below equal 125,000,000.00 dollars. Also looks like they're investing in Illinois where were located too.

Current Deals >>

Appletree Capital, Ltd.

Zhemian Ventures is currently assisting Appletree Capital, Ltd.-a Chicago-based private equity, venture capital and merchant banking group to raise $100 million for the Appletree Investors I, LP fund and $25 million for the Appleseed Ventures I, LLC fund.

These two VC funds will be used to make investments in early-stage and middle-stage companies in Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, and Illinois (basically the mid U.S.)-a market that is relatively untapped by VC firms on the East and West coasts. Appletree Capital, Ltd. has a management team with several years of private equity experience between them and is committed to maximizing return and controlling risks for investors.

If you are interested in participating in either of these funds, wish to request a copy of the Private Placement Memorandum for each fund or have any questions regarding either fund, please send an email to: [e-mail].

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.570.812 von KANTER am 08.07.07 16:50:39

(Easy breakdown of WNSH) Winsted Holdings=Appletree Capital=Zhemian Ventures=Big money=Plays in our Favor

Very easy to see we have a diamond here at these levels now that Appletree Capital is in control and bought the block. Not the type of company (in the industry their in) they'll hurt their own name and or burn their reputation or clients (especially in a measly pink) cause this is all their known for is deals, ventures, mergers, acquisitions, money managing, banking, asset managing, etc.

Gesamtsumme des Deals durch Aquise der 2 Unrenehmen 125 Millionen!

[Schnatzi]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.570.910 von KANTER am 08.07.07 16:53:11

Und was für eine Firma ist diese Appletree?

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.577.903 von Schnatzi am 08.07.07 20:34:16

Keine Ahnung! Is egal,handelt sich jedenfalls um eine 120 Millionenteure Bude!

[Arielle81]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.578.014 von KANTER am 08.07.07 20:42:30

Current Capital Change:
shs decreased by 1 for 1250 split
Ex-Date:
Record Date:
Pay Date: 2006-01-26

Dividends:

Company Notes:
Formerly=October Project I Corp. until 9-00
Formerly=InDigiNet, Inc. until 3-05

Class Notes:
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 1500 split. Pay date=06/23/2005.
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 250 split. Pay date=08/18/2003.
Capital Change=shs increased by 16 for 1 split. Ex-date=05/07/2001. Rec date=04/30/2001. Pay date=04/30/2001.
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 250 split. Effective date=8-17-04
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 1000 split. Effective date=12-1-04
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 1000 split. Effective date=3-7-05

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Im Bereich reverse splits sind sie jedenfalls nicht zu toppen

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.578.105 von Arielle81 am 08.07.07 20:49:49

Na duuu hast gerade noch gefehlt!!




Mach deine Recherche und bleib hoffentlich bei den aktuellen Fakten Baby!!

[Arielle81]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.578.122 von KANTER am 08.07.07 20:51:04

Das sind leider die Fakten. Im Gegensatz zu dem was hier angekündigt wird, besteht mein Beitrag ausschließlich aus Fakten

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.578.221 von Arielle81 am 08.07.07 20:58:42

Das sind vergangene Fakten Zartes!!


Gib dir doch mal n Ruck und lies dir IHUB durch!!! Ansonsten lass es und versuch doch einmal in deinem Userleben nicht alles schlecht zu reden

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.578.221 von Arielle81 am 08.07.07 20:58:42

Für dich mein Hase!!



http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=5386

[Arielle81]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.578.279 von KANTER am 08.07.07 21:02:52

Vergangenes was sich leider in regelmäßigen Abständen wiederholt und somit immer noch aktuell ist.

Wie lautet die aktuelle share strukur? Was ist verifiziert? Hier gibt es nichts außer news in denen vermutlich gelogen wird, Verwässerung und Reverse Splits. Mit sowas offensichtlichem verschwende ich nicht meine Zeit.

Nö, bin nicht immer negativ, aber bei solchen Aktien bleibt einem ja leider nichts anderes übrig.

ALSO VORSICHT LEUTE!!!

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.578.377 von Arielle81 am 08.07.07 21:09:56

Sie kanns nich lassen!!

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.578.377 von Arielle81 am 08.07.07 21:09:56

Ich würd sagen Hop oder Top


Und wenn du ein anders orientierter Anleger bist dann husch und was anderes suchen!

Ich muss dir doch nun nich erklären,wer welche Beweggründe hat,zu investieren oder nicht??

OTS...Pinksheets.....erartest du da etwa Seriösität??

och Arielle......mach dich nich lächerlich!

Also,schreib was du denkst,aber bleib immer in der Relation zu den Dingen!!

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.578.466 von KANTER am 08.07.07 21:16:19

Sorry,muss natürlich OTC heißen

[Arielle81]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.578.407 von KANTER am 08.07.07 21:12:10

Schon schei**e, wenn man sich so viele Mühe beim Dummpush gibt und dann jemand die negativen Aspekte verdeutlicht, gelle

Ich könnte mich ja jetzt ausführlich mit diesem SCAM auseinandersetzen um hier mal weitere Fakten zu posten, aber ich glaube die Anzahl an reverse splits reichen den Leuten

Die Stimmung bei ihub ist gut, vielleicht ist tatsächlich ein kurzer run drinnen, aber die story glaube ich nicht und bisher wurde auch nur verwässert und r/s durchgeführt. Also fundamental gibt´s hier nichts nachweisbares.

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.578.498 von Arielle81 am 08.07.07 21:18:29

Du checkst es nich,nein!????


Lies dir doch nochmal mein letztes Posting durch!!!




Aber irgendwie mag ich dich trotzdem Gibst dir immer viel Mühe!


PS: wollte auch nich alt werden mit dem Invest!!!

[Arielle81]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.578.466 von KANTER am 08.07.07 21:16:19

Nicht alles ist unseriös Kanter, aber du hast ja noch nicht einmal auf die negativen Aspekte hingewiesen. Die sind bei WHNSH nun mal besonders offensichtlich und hier gibt es eine menge NEUE und die glauben den Kram auch noch. Die werden noch bis zum nächsten r/s investiert sein. Jetzt tu mal nicht so, als ob du die negativen Aspekte nicht absichtlich vorenthalten hast
Finde das sehr schwach!

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.578.498 von Arielle81 am 08.07.07 21:18:29

Und ich habs nich nötig dumm zu puschen,da gibts sicher andere kandidaten


Wirst nie bei mir erleben,das ich Dinge schreibe,die nicht auf irgendeine Art und Weise im Raum stehen (man nennt das auch Gerüchte) und schon gar nicht irgendwelche Kursziele herausposaune!!


Nochmals für dich mein Schatz! Zum 3.male....


Wir sind hier an der OTC nd jeder der hier mitliest,sollte das wissen,ansonsten soll er in den Dax oder was weiß ich hineininvestieren

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.578.620 von Arielle81 am 08.07.07 21:26:31

Ok ,du hast vollkommen Recht!!


Ich bin der letzte,der nicht mit sich reden lässt


Mir ist klar,das hier ne Menge,aber auch wirklich ne Mende RS in der Vergangenheit durchgeführt wurden und möglicherweise auch immer noch geschehen könnte


genau wie es zu einem möglichen RM kommen könnte!

Du siehst,alles reine Spekulation und du weißt selber ganz genau,das dies an diesem Segment nunmal eine große Rolle spielt!!!

[Arielle81]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.578.578 von KANTER am 08.07.07 21:23:28

Zeitüberschneidung beim posten. Also nochmal Bursche , du pusht hier den übelsten Kram und enthälst den neuen usern die offensichtlichen negativen Aspekte (reverse splits) vor. Dann verkaufst du die Inhalte aus news oder Gerüchte als Fakten und das ist nun mal schwach. Ich habe hier auch schon einen thread zu einem offensichtlichem scam (HMIT) eröffnet, aber trotzdem habe ich darauf auch ganz klar hingewiesen.

Ein wenig mehr Verantwortungsbewusstsein würde ich auch von dir begrüßen. Kann ja wohl nicht allzu schwer sein. Besserst du dich nicht musst du mit meinem Besuch rechnen, aber du diesen anscheinend ganz gerne magst, weiter so!

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.578.705 von Arielle81 am 08.07.07 21:32:06

Wenn du ne Frau bist kannst gern zu mir kommen!!


Ansonsten wünsch ich dir noch einen schönen abend!

[Arielle81]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.578.694 von KANTER am 08.07.07 21:31:28

Schön und beim nächsten mal bitte gleich zu Anfang erwähnen und nicht erst nachdem du darauf angesprochen wirst.

Danke

PS: Ein thread hätte auch genügt

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.578.752 von Arielle81 am 08.07.07 21:34:41

Hab mich extra für DICH und andere Inreressenten auf die Suche gemacht und folgendes wurde mir geschrieben:


WNSH nice read:

Posted by: stervc
In reply to: brackep who wrote msg# 2079 Date:5/4/2007 3:26:05 AM
Post #of 2081

Brackep...

Below is a post I responded to someone by the name of "Kickyourace3" within my forum on RB concerning WNSH back on 2 May 07. I'm a little tired so I will only cut & paste the WNSH portion to keep from re-typing.

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http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219…
Kickyourace3 (& ALL), with those stocks...

Those companies all supposed to have some kind of running business, product, or service that are either generating Revenues or are getting ready to generate some Revenues.

I did speak to Mark Ellis, the CEO of WNSH, a few days ago. He did confirm with me that the deal they are supposed to have with BUGS is real. News should have been out already from when he told me to expect it.

There is a history of reverse splits with WNSH, but I was told all is different now and that the Float has been in the process of being bought up. I last spoke to Mark around last Thursday. He informed me that they are trying to buy up as many shares as possible so that they can maintain better control to fight off any selling pressure into the expected price increases in the future. He told me that there are about 500 million shares remaining in the Float to be bought by the public from what has already been accumulated. Again, this was as of last Thursday so by his numbers of what the OS is (I think he mentioned 1.6 billion), the Float should be gone. Look at the volume since 23 Apr 07. Some serious accumulation definitely has been going on.

Mark has a history with the SEC in which I spoke with him about from a post/article I had seen on IHUB from PENNYBUSTER. Mark explained the negative article that was out there to me. He asked me if I had read the entire article. I told him no. He said that if I would have read the entire article, I would have come to the latter portion where it explained that the subpoena was for him to come provide testimony for the Brokerage Company that they use and not for him. He informed me that he was forgiven for the payroll accusations as that was resolved to the SEC likings. He said he was considered clean with the SEC with no blemishes or WNSH would not have been allowed to continue trading as he assured me.
Many are waiting to see what news is going to be released because BUGS is a credible OTCBB company if everything pans out as he told me. He seemed very sincere during our conversation, but heck, everyone sounds sincere to me (LOL). He does have a bad history within the investing community eyes from older affiliations when the stock existed as different tickers before previous reverse splits. Some might be willing to forgive him if the BUGS deal is true and can show how it will greatly benefit shareholders. Heck, as for me, I just threw a bit of lunch money into it because of the volume and the price. Again, I would treat all of those stocks as a trade until or unless the company "legitimately" confirms that it's worth being treated like an investment.

v/r
Sterling

[Arielle81]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.579.728 von KANTER am 08.07.07 22:25:53

Wow mit diesem Posting hast du dich ja sehr bemüht

Posted by: carnelsonG
In reply to: None Date:7/8/2007 3:55:28 PM
Post #of 3968

I hope they dont announce the next REVERSE Split!!lol



Also, ich wünsche dir viel Erfolg mit deinem Lottopick, denn mehr scheint es aktuell nicht zu sein. Ist mir zu sehr wischi-waschi. Seit April Akkumulation? So nennt man also das verkaufen von Aktien durch die Firma neuerdings. Der Kurs stagniert nicht ohne Grund in diesem Bereich. Vielleicht ein kleiner hype möglich, aber mir ist das hier zu wenig obwohl ich auch an der otc zocke.

Was ein CEO schreibt glaube ich schon lange nicht mehr. Naivität ist hier glaube ich fehl am Platz. Wäre die Firma in der Vergangenheit nicht durch etliche r/s aufgefallen und hätte nicht verwässert könne man einen Zock wagen, aber das springt mir hier direkt ins Auge.

Irgendwie raven moon mäßig und somit kein ordentliches Chancen/Risikoverhältnis

Aber mal schauen. Die pusher bei ihub sind ja sehr aktiv und ich gehe jede Wette ein das pumpmails bei ihub unterwegs sind

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.580.226 von Arielle81 am 08.07.07 22:48:44

Kannst nich sagen,das ich nich nach allen Seiten hin recherchiere und "unbequeme Fragen stelle"



PS: der CEO ist jetzt ein gewisser Herr Manzo,(APPLETREE)

Gut Nacht Arielle

Sag mal,bist tatsächlich ein weiliches Wesen??

Ich bin noch Single,mit sicherem Einkommen und schlecht ausschauen tu ich auch net

[Arielle81]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.580.337 von KANTER am 08.07.07 22:54:28

Hierauf habe ich mich bezogen "I did speak to Mark Ellis, the CEO of WNSH"

Womöglich der ehemalige CEO, ich weiss es nicht. Habe mir die "Firma" nicht so genau angesehen, da auf den ersten Blick zu viele Dinge nicht mein Fall sind.

Ja klar bin ich eine Frau. Kannst dich ja bewerben mit aussagekräftigen Fotos, Kontoauszug und Anschreiben
Aber mach dir nicht zu große Hoffnungen
Die Konkurrenz ist groß

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.580.507 von Arielle81 am 08.07.07 23:03:19

Kannst mir gern per BM deine Emailaddi zukommen lassen



Aber dann werd ich dich gar nich mehr los


Arielle,wünsch dir ne Gute Nacht und lass mal wieder von dir hören (lesen)!

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.580.507 von Arielle81 am 08.07.07 23:03:19

Hab mich im Übrigen erkenntlich gezeigt und das Update ganz DIR gewidmet!!!



http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2…

[Arielle81]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.580.794 von KANTER am 08.07.07 23:29:12

"Aber dann werd ich dich gar nich mehr los"

Wow hier spuckt aber jemand große Töne

Na dieses Prachtexemplar darf den anderen usern doch nicht vorenthalten werden

Ich plädiere dafür, dass du ein Foto in diesem Forum hochlädst. Wir wollen uns doch alle daran erfreuen

[KANTER]

Moin Moin


Diese Woche wird zeigen,was an den Gerüchten mit Appletree dran ist und was am Ende für uns rausspringt!!


H O P oder T O P


PS: Ich möchte nochmals nachdrücklich auf die Gefahren und Risiken,welche mit diesem Invest verbunden sind,hinweisen!!!!


Gruß KANTER

[KANTER]

Hier nochmal eine Aussage zum Thema RS oder mögliche Ängste über einen RS:




Posted by: lgb59
In reply to: joh8 who wrote msg# 4083 Date:7/9/2007 8:33:30 AM
Post #of 4086

Ellis was well known for R/S and he's gone.

Also R/S can't be done as long as the company is still in the category of a "BDC" they can't do a R/S. The SEC found the prior reverse split not permissible under the security exchange act of 1940 and this seems to be were Ellis got in trouble. Hence the reason the purposed R/S slated for 7/06 was cancelled.

No filings to date to change the "BDC" category. The above is listed in either the last 8-K or 10Q filed on the SEC website.

[Schnatzi]

Mal sehen ob heute ne News kommt.... Das wäre echt der Hammer, wenn ich endlich mal bei einer Aktie von anfangan dabei wäre, wenn der Merger bestätigt wird... Hoffen wir mal das wird gut laufen...

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.592.199 von Schnatzi am 09.07.07 14:41:18

[Schnatzi]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.593.255 von KANTER am 09.07.07 15:42:34

Naja der ist ja wohl nicht ganz aktuell was.?

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.593.426 von Schnatzi am 09.07.07 15:51:47

[Schnatzi]

Die Euphorie ist schon vorbei oder wie? Was wird im IHUB darüber geschrieben?

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.595.109 von Schnatzi am 09.07.07 17:21:50

NIx vorbei ! Selber lesen!

Schnatzi,musst dich auch mal n bissel selber damit bschäftigen



http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=5386



PS: Volkshochschule bietet bestimmt Englischkurse für Anfänger an!



Hoffe du verstehst Spass

[Schnatzi]

Also gut... Du hast recht... Es ist noch nicht vorbei... Sondern fängt erst an...

[KANTER]

++++ The DEAL is done!++++++




Posted by: stervc
In reply to: None Date:7/10/2007 2:21:27 AM
Post #of 4428

WNSH as a Holding Company…

Last week I called Martin Allen Brown at Zhemian Ventures. Martin is the Founder of Zhemian Ventures. I didn’t ask, but I think he is the CEO of Zhemian Ventures too. Today he returned my phone calls. He stated that he has been in contact with Franco, the new CEO of WNSH. He explained to me his role and many things that were very new to me for understanding so please have some patience in reading and understanding how I tried to simply explain things.

Martin is also a Securities Lawyer too that specializes in many things to include SEC/NASD compliance. He has been appointed by Mayor Kathy Taylor of Tulsa as a member of the City of Tulsa’s Economic Development Commission. Martin also specializes in the net income (NI) approach vs. net operating income (NOI) approach to capital structuring. Martin was the recipient of the TU Law Alumni Association’s Outstanding Committee Chair award in 2004 and Outstanding Alumnus in 2005. Ok, I’m convinced that this guy knows what he is doing and is probably cautious about his involvements to make sure his reputation is not tarnished.

He can be reached at the info below within the website which is also in the Ibox:
http://zhemian.com/
Zhemian Ventures, L.L.C.
6128 E. 38th Street
Suite 312
Tulsa, Oklahoma 74135
[phone] (Phone)
[phone] (Facsimile)

Martin explained to me that Zhemian Ventures is responsible for getting Appletreecapital’s clients. All of Appletreecapital’s clients are highly established Institutions as he informed me. These Institutions are already proven that they deal with in raising capital. They go to these Institutions to get a certain amount of capital because they show these Institutions how they can guarantee them a return in the area of 25% or so through a group of already proven and existing profitable private companies with proven business plans currently existing. Martin told me that they only deal with profitable companies.

I informed him that when investors hear of raising $125 million in capital within the penny stock world, we have a tendency to think of the capital being raised through the company selling/dumping shares into the market. He told me “not here.” They get their capital from Institutions that wants to give them capital to invest because of their proven track record and guarantee they give them in returns over the next one to two years.

After a year or two, they give the Institutions the opportunity to cash in on their 25% gain. I know that 25% does not seem like much to us here in the penny stock world, but to the Institutions, they only care about small gains like such over an extended period of time because of the large amount of dollars invested. These investments are definitely less volatile. Although Appletreecapital is not a mutual fund, a better way to see them is to see them as a company that acts as a mutual fund for the Institutional Investors just the same as a regular mutual fund acts for us retail investors.

Martin explained to me how Appletreecapital would generate Revenues. Appletreecapital (now WNSH) would make their money from what he called “The Carry” and “Management Fees”

** “The Management Fee” is the 2% through 7% return on the deal closed and matured with the Institution.

** “The Carry” is the amount that is left over after Appletreecapital pays out the promised 25% to the Institution. Usually this amount is more than what was paid out to the Institution and is what is paid back to the Appletreecapital and its shareholders. This is usually the bulk of the return.

Appletreecapital merging into WNSH will already be profitable and already have a list of confirmed Institutional clientele support. He could not tell me the amount, but I did get out of him that they are nearly completed in raising the $125 million through the Institutions. Now, with this $125 million, at first I didn’t understand something about the use of that money. My thoughts were… “Why couldn’t they use the $125 million raised to buy back shares?” The reason was because the $125 million is raised capital that was given to them by the Institutions to invest in the promised profitable private companies that were already reviewed. The money used to buyback shares would come from other areas as he mentioned to include money made from “The Carry” and “Management Fees.”

Again, Martin told me that the Management Fee is the 2% through 7% return on the deal closed and matured with the Institution. Let’s consider on a low side a Management Fee of 2% of this $125 million deal.

This means that Appletreecapital would get the 2% Management Fee below:

$125,000,000 x .02 (2%) = $2,500,000

Martin told me that “The Carry” is usually an amount that is equivalent to or greater than the amount paid out to the Institutions or more. Martin told me that this is the amount that is paid back to Appletreecapital and its shareholders. This is usually the bulk of the return. I see why too. Let’s say that they have a bad year and could not give the Institutions the promised 25% return on their money, but instead only 15% return on their money. This would mean that as a minimum, Appletreecapital would get as a minimum, 15% of that $125 million as “The Carry” which means:

$125,000,000 x .15 (15%) = $18,750,000

The total amount that Appletreecapital would walk away from with this deal to include both the “Management Fees” and “The Carry” would be:

$2,500,000 + $18,750,000 = $21,250,000

Since the overhead from running this kind of business is very minimal, I think it would be fair to affix a quarter of the $21,250,000 in Revenues to be attributable towards paying the Expenses. To consider this situation, this would be as such below:

$21,250,000 – ($21,250,000 ÷ 4) = Income
$21,250,000 – ($5,312,500) = $15,937,500

The $15.9 million would be cleared as profit as the Expenses for WNSH would be more than taken out from Revenues generated. Even with an OS of 4 billion shares as a worse case scenario, consider below:

$15,937,500 ÷ 4,000,000,000 shares = Earnings Per Share (EPS)
$15,937,500 ÷ 4,000,000,000 shares = 0.00398 (EPS)

Using a Conservative P/E Ratio of 12 x .00398 = .047 per share

This means that in only including the current $125 million deal and not any future deals, WNSH could logically and fundamentally be worth .047 per share if they only make 2% in Management Fees and 15% as “The Carry” if they were only able to give the Institution a 15% return on their money from this deal.

I told Martin that this is a rather complicated business model for an average investor like me and many others. I asked him if I could share our discussions within some investor forums to help them understand what is going on and he said that such was fine.

The information that I have posted in the past and now is information gathered from doing my own DD. It appears that WNSH is still in the preliminary stages of a major transformation. It will be up to the new management to begin officially informing WNSH shareholders of their new direction for being a holding company. I do see some potential in WNSH given its new business model and direction. I think everyone should always be cautious of any investment enough to not solely believe what anyone is saying or post. So please do your own DD to determine if WNSH is worth you taking the risk. I hope this helps.

v/r
Sterling

[Schnatzi]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.610.340 von KANTER am 10.07.07 11:13:43

Na das ist ja mal cool... Dann bin ich ja mal gespannt was heute der Kurs macht... Wie euphorisch sind die Amis?

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.611.090 von Schnatzi am 10.07.07 11:54:59

\"....Dann bin ich ja mal gespannt was heute der Kurs macht..\"


Schnatzi,........das muss nich zwingend sich im heutigen Kurs auswirken. Ich denk,das die entsprechende ,betätigende PR eher den Ausschlag für einen #Kursanstieg geben wird.

Aber man weiß ja nie

[Schnatzi]

Die Woche hat ja noch ein paar Tage... Da kann schon noch ne PR kommen... Gestern war ja nicht viel los hier...

[Arielle81]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.612.047 von KANTER am 10.07.07 12:47:27

Leider wird hier nach wie vor verwässert. Das die "Firma" selbst auf dem Niveau verwässert spricht nicht für einen kommenden Anstieg.

Ich glaube das war ein Griff ins Klo, mein Lieber

[KANTER]

Moin Arielle


Geile Theorie,aber nicht in der Praxis!!




VOIP-INTERFACE, with your update...

Thanks for sharing this info as these things are good to know. Having a Float of 400 million shares seems about right.
Him telling you the Float is 400 million shares was given to you based on him knowing that they own 90% of the OS.
Now when you take into consideration the amount of those 400 million shares that us retail investors have been buying over the past few months, I would have to guess that it is much less. IMHO

v/r
Sterling

[KANTER]

Posted by: cn1_3
In reply to: None Date:7/11/2007 1:46:55 AM
Post #of 4627

I\'ve just received a message from Francis Manzo saying \"Yes, we plan to issue a press release in the next couple of days. We are preparing what comments we will be issuing.\"

Here is the whole message:

Yes, we plan to issue a press release in the next couple of days. We are preparing what comments we will be issuing.
Regards,
Francis Manzo
----- Original Message -----
From: XXX
To: [e-mail]
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:52 AM
Subject: Shareholder inquiry

Dear Sir or Maddam,

I’ve held a major amount of shares in Winsted Holdings since a couple of days.
Now Winsted’s new homepage indicates that a significant change has happened.
Unfortunately there hasn’t been an official press release from Winsted and/or Appletreecapital about this change.

Therefore I’d like to know from you in which way you’re in connection to Winsted and what I as shareholder can expect from the company’s future.
When will an official PR be published?

Thanks in advance for your quick response!

Yours sincerely
XXX


Dr. XXX
XXX
89231 Neu-Ulm
Germany
email: XXX
Tel. XXX Schau an,einer der Unseren



Zufällig hier im Board unterwegs???

[Arielle81]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.626.940 von KANTER am 11.07.07 10:20:00

Na, warum steigt die Aktie denn nicht
Klarer Fall von Verwässerung, aber wirst du auch noch merken

Noch habe ich die Hoffnung bei dir nicht augegeben

[Arielle81]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.627.416 von Arielle81 am 11.07.07 10:47:00

augegeben--->aufgegeben

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.627.416 von Arielle81 am 11.07.07 10:47:00

:O

Ach Ariellemaus

Bisher hab ich deine Aussagen zum Großteil geschätzt und deine Umsichtigkeit,aber in Bezug auf WNSH schießt du im Moment doch gelinde gesagt, etwas am Ziel vorbei!??

ich würde meine,DU führst jetzt die Neuuser etwas in die Irre


Ok,wir können ja nen Deal eingehen,sprich eine Wette


Ich geh von einem OS von 1,6 Milliarden aus (schlechtetstes Szenmnario)

Du gehst von welchem OS aus(sprichst ja von Verwässerung)?



Wer verliert verabschiedet sich aus dem Tread,ok????


Wette steht???????Was einzuwennden????


Isch warrte Babyyyyyyyyyyyy

[KANTER]

EMAIL FROM FRANCIS

No reverse splits are planned at this time, We plan to issue a press release in the next couple of days. We are preparing what comments we will be issuing.

Regards,
Francis Manzo
----- Original Message -----
From: Kensley A. Finnell
To: [e-mail]
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 6:27 PM
Subject: r/s


is there going to be a reverse split?

[Arielle81]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.629.926 von KANTER am 11.07.07 13:01:32

Also mein Lieber, der Aktienkurs stagniert trotz der Euphorie und einigen Käufen. Wer glaubst du würde bei diesen Aussichten so viele Aktien bei 0,0001 verkaufen?

Ganz einfach, die Firma schmeisst massig Aktien in den Markt und das lässt sich nicht verleugnen.

Schau dir lieber mal die Aktie an die ich dir in meiner ersten bm ans herz gelegt habe. Da werden wir noch viel Freude dran haben

[Wolfdeluxe]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.630.179 von Arielle81 am 11.07.07 13:17:53

Arielle hat Recht. Warne jeden hier Geld zu investieren. Das sind die grössten Betrüger, die nur auf stupid German money warten... Sorry aber Winsted = Betrug. Schaut auch mal die Historie an, die spricht für sich!!!!! Um hier Geld zu verdienen musste man schon sehr viel Glück haben. Die einzigen die an der Sch**** profitieren sind die die immer neue Aktien drucken und den Markt damit zu sch(m)eissen. Falls ihr auf einen Merger spekulieren wollt schaut euch lieber ADBN an - hier ist zumindest keine Dilution im Gange und die Aussichten sind gut.

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.630.179 von Arielle81 am 11.07.07 13:17:53

++++ Wir werden sehn......++++

[KANTER]

Posted by: stervc
In reply to: None Date:7/11/2007 2:15:35 PM
Post #of 4731

With WNSH, consider EFSV’s Reverse Merger...

EFSV is up 837.37% for the day thus far at $4.75 per share. Someone posted within my RB forum the news that Rodman & Renshaw Holding, LLC, a full service Investment Bank, completed today their Reverse Merger (RM) transaction with Enthrust Financial Services, Inc. (ticker EFSV) through a share exchange transaction as it appears is happening between WNSH and Appletree Capital which is an Investment Bank too.

A $7.00 per share value was assessed for the deal of the reverse merger given a 25 million OS.
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?url=fis_story.asp%3…
I think it's fair to consider what could possibly happen when/if WNSH/Appletree Capital announce their RM news from seeing what happened with EFSV release of their RM news.

With Appletree Capital being an Investment Bank too, I like our odds for success here with Appletree Capital reverse merging into WNSH. I think many will really begin doing their DD that are much smarter than I to see the potential that will exist after such an announcement.

v/r
Sterling

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.633.780 von Wolfdeluxe am 11.07.07 16:38:25

Und bei DIR würd ich sagen,du hast dir in der Vergangenheit anscheind ganz schwer die Finger an dem teil verbrannt,dich allerdings NICHT mit der neuen Situation um WNSH befasst!???

gut N8

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.633.780 von Wolfdeluxe am 11.07.07 16:38:25

The real o/s is 4bb he has or Appletree Capital has 90% of it so he said the legal float should be around 400 million now. Updates coming baby. When this hits the wires look out MOASS. This stock was probably shorted a lot cause Mark was involved well he's out and we have a major Investment banking and Venture Capital Firm in here.

We may go from a Florida corp to a Delaware corp which has always been the best for a public company imo. Appletree Capital has paid off and cleaned up the mess of Mark with the transfer agent as well and in good standing. Looking to get rid of the preferred shares when they change to Delaware.

Also lookout for a Reverse Merger and a name change short term too

[KANTER]

[Schnatzi]

Hey wir haben zumindest schon mal die 3 gesehen heute... Kommt da heute noch was? Umsätze sind auch schon recht hoch...

[Saftladen]

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.656.902 von Saftladen am 12.07.07 17:13:46

Posted by: VOIP-INTERFACE
In reply to: Art2Gecko who wrote msg# 5443 Date:7/12/2007 11:32:14 AM
Post #of 5447

I just confirmed w/Frank

Appletree Capital Ltd. Announces Turnaround Situation with Winsted Holdings and New Management
Northfield--(BUSINESS WIRE)—Winsted Holdings, Inc. (Pink Sheets:WNSH – News) announces new management and updates the market.
New CEO and President Francis Manzo stated, “My objective with the new Winsted Holdings is a turnaround situation to create true shareholder value for the investing public. I also want to make it perfectly clear that Mark Ellis is no longer related or involved with the company. Furthermore there are currently around 4 billion shares outstanding of which roughly 90% are now owned by Appletree Capital Ltd. leaving the true float to be around 400 million shares.”Winsted Holdings is in the process of changing from a Florida corporation to a Delaware corporation in order to take advantage of several key aspects. We are also designing and developing a new website for our shareholders. The company and Appletree Capital are also in review stage for reverse merger candidates.

"Safe Harbor" Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:
This release includes forward-looking statements intended to qualify for the safe harbor from liability established by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements generally can be identified by phrases such as WNSH or its management "believes," "expects," "anticipates," "foresees," "forecasts," "estimates" or other words or phrases of similar import. Similarly, statements in this release that describe the Company's business strategy, outlook, objectives, plans, intentions or goals also are forward-looking statements. All such forward-looking statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in forward-looking statements.

Contact:
Appletree Capital Ltd., Northfield, IL
Francis P. Manzo III, President, 847-441-1822 http://www.winstedholdings.com/ [e-mail]

[Schnatzi]

Das liest sich ja mal super... Die 4 haben wir schon mal für heute... Geht es heute noch weiter?
Kanter was meinst Du wie weit es in den nächsten Tagen gehen kann?
Wann kommt die offizielle PR über den RM?

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.657.447 von Schnatzi am 12.07.07 17:43:42

ngeblich ist sie bei Market Wire schon durch


Kann jeden Moment kommen

[Schnatzi]

Woher hast Du das, dass sie schon durch wäre?

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.657.519 von Schnatzi am 12.07.07 17:47:55

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2…

[Schnatzi]

Die PR lässt aber schon noch ein wenig auf sich warten was.?

[KANTER]

Posted by: stervc
In reply to: None Date:7/12/2007 3:44:48 PM
Post #of 6043

Important Email to the CEO of WNSH...

Below is an email I sent to Franco from my job concerning a couple of key things for consideration. I got a feeling that there will be no way he and his experts can't see this. IMHO Please read...


from XXXXXXX XXXXXXXX X XXX XXXX/XXXX <XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> hide details 1:31 pm (1 hour ago)
to [e-mail]
cc [e-mail]
date Jul 12, 2007 1:31 PM
subject IMPORTANT-Please Consider...
mailed-by XXXXXXXXXXXXX

Dear Mr. Franco Manzo,



I am a shareholder in WNSH and I and many other shareholders appreciate the good rapport you have with your shareholders and the SEC. We understand why you cannot do a reverse split, but consider such a good thing. You and your TEAM are doing a great job. Please consider a couple of more things though.



First, if you could contact Business Wire and make sure they do not release any news until at least after the market closes, such would be greatly appreciated. I am aware that you are very new to this realm of investing, but I have had to speak with the SEC representing my investing forum years ago to get some answers that none of us were aware of concerning inside information. In short, I don’t remember everything that was explained to me, but I do remember that from the info that was posted to be your PR to be released, I think you need to wait to release your PR until after the market closes as an unfair trading advantage was created as many people could have traded WNSH because of that info being released in such a manner. To make sure you and the company remain in good standing with the SEC, I think you need to wait until this current trading day is over from the time that info was brought to the public before you release that particular piece of news the way it was written.



I am not an expert by far, but I and many others believe in the growth and turnaround that you and Appletree Capital Ltd are bringing to WNSH shareholders. We would not want you or the company to get into any kind of trouble that could jeopardize all of our investment in WNSH and your good standing that you have created with the SEC.



Second, I also am aware of your goals to restructure WNSH. I am also aware that you and the company own 90% of the Outstanding Shares (OS). Please consider that a logical option for restructuring would be as I have seen certain stocks from my experience do within the penny stock market. This is to retire back a good portion of the 90% shares outstanding to the Treasury (Authorized Shares or AS) to where you would still own at least 51% of the majority of the OS. This would enhance the valuation in WNSH tremendously and would do wonders for the investing community for believing even much more in your business objectives.



Consider maybe retiring shares from the OS down to around 850 million:

(450 million owned by you for the controlling interest + the 400 million for the Float = 820 million)

Or

(3,600,000,000 – 850,000,000 = 2,750,000,000 shares needing to be retired)



This would mean that you could retire for an example 2.75 billion shares from the OS back to the Treasury and still maintain at least a 51% controlling interest. This could be the difference between WNSH trading in the triple zeros or the high pennies range or even much higher. I have also seen where some companies issue preferred shares a certain way to have a majority ownership upon conversion to reduce the OS to even lower numbers.



Companies do this because the Fundamental Valuation that stocks within the major markets use to derive legitimate valuation is done through the formula of:



Revenues – Expenses = Income

Income ÷ Outstanding Shares (OS) = Earnings Per Share (EPS)



I am sure you are aware of the importance of your EPS and how it is used to assess the value of a company and a company’s stock price.



The OS is the key fundamental denominator that significantly affects the EPS. The lower the OS the greater the value in WNSH. You could always go back to the Treasury to issue the shares later if you discover that you need them for a future acquisition, etc.



Again, I am not an expert as these things you might be aware of. I am explaining these things to you because I have taken for granted in the past that many CEOs in previous companies understood these things and much to my surprise, they had no clue for understanding and simply transformed into dilution machines frustrating many of its shareholders.



I am not expecting a response to this email. I only hope that you take the things I mentioned under consideration. For any questions or if you need to call me, please call me on my personal cell at 210-387-7957 or my duty number listed below in my signature block. Thanks for your consideration!



v/r

Sterling

[midnight_1]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.662.804 von KANTER am 12.07.07 23:04:18

@ Kanter,

wünsch dir von Herzen viel Glück mein Freund!!!!!

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.663.680 von midnight_1 am 13.07.07 01:02:11

Danke mein Freund! Werds gebrauchen können,mal schaun wies weitergeht



Gruß KANTER

[Arielle81]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.664.414 von KANTER am 13.07.07 08:21:05

Ja, glaube auch das du es brauchst

[Schnatzi]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.665.306 von Arielle81 am 13.07.07 09:30:44

Hey gestern schön auf der 4 geschlossen... Bin ja mal gespannt wie es weitergeht... Hoffe, heute kommt vielleicht ja doch die PR mit dem R/M... Das wäre richtig geil...
Was meinst Du Kanter dazu wie es heute weitergeht?

[Arielle81]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.665.583 von Schnatzi am 13.07.07 09:46:38

Alles nur Gerüchte ohne etwas konkretes. Anstieg nur auf Grund von Pushern bei ihub. Also vorsicht ist nach der Vergangenheit wirklich nicht verkehrt. Bei 0,0002 ist es vielleicht ein Zock wert, aber für mehr sollte wenigstens ein Indiz vorhanden sein. Und selbst wenn es zu einem Merger kommt, bin ich mir sicher, dass ein Reverse Split ebenfalls durchgeführt wird. Merger heißt ja nicht gleich Anstieg, siehe APPI (in der auch ich investiert war - Anfängerfehler )

[KANTER]

Guten morgen Arielle,kleine Meerjungfrau


Hoffe dir gehts gut und deine Invests laufen gut!???




WNSH Restructuring Thoughts…

I had read where Martin, from Zhemian Ventures, specialized in Capital Restructuring. So I centered my second conversation on the Capital Restructuring of WNSH after I did some further research too on the topic. I told him that Franco, the new WNSH CEO, had emailed some investors talking about a Capital Restructuring. I told him that within the penny stock world, when we hear the term “Capital Restructuring” we normally think in terms of the share structure changing; normally through a reverse split. I told him that investors are terrified given WNSH’s past history of reverse splits as some people are still spooked.

Martin told me that he has no knowledge of a reverse split with WNSH. That was a positive, but I still know that there are two concepts for the growth of a stock that often gets ignored, especially by CEOs and their personnel/affiliates. There is the concept of “growing your stock” and the concept of “growing your company.” I understand that Martin is on the side of “growing your company” and could very well not be informed if there are plans of a reverse split. Still, I was glad to know he had no knowledge of a reverse split to take place.

I explained to Martin the Capital Restructuring that was done by Schwab last week on 2 Jul 07 and some of the details mentioned by Schwab and other stocks that had done Capital Restructuring. He informed me that the Capital Restructuring for WNSH would be on the same lines as that of Schwab and those other deals I mentioned for things they have done. I got a little excited because from the PR below from Schwab, their Capital Restructuring Program included a special dividend, share buyback plan and debt offerings.
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=business…

With this announcement Schwab just made last Monday on 2 July 07, Schwab’s shares rose and closed at $22.00 for their strongest gain of the year.

He did not give me any specific details as I tried to get some exacts, but he told me that when Appletreecapital is referring to Capital Restructuring, they are not making reference to the company doing a reverse split. He said that it involves the things I mentioned to him from my research such as buybacks, transferring of assets from one entity within the company to under another entity within the company under the same ultimate ownership, the sale of certain divisions, etc. He stated that for him to do these things, a reverse split was not discussed as an option. I did believe him although I know that still a reverse split should always be in the back of the minds of shareholders as an option just by being a penny stock. Below are some links to read for researching Capital Restructuring:

A Law Firm in the UK
http://www.manches.com/practices/corporate/service.php?id=25…

ICFAI University Press
http://www.icfaiuniversitypress.org/books/Capital_Restructur…

The DOFASCO Capital Restructuring Program
http://www.dofasco.ca/INVESTORS/2004_annual_report/md_and_a_…

Dynegy Inc. (NYSEYN) Capital Restructuring Program
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-80838994.html

Russell-Stanley’s Capital Restructuring Program
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2001_July_17/…

I am by no means saying that I know for a fact that there won’t be a reverse split with WNSH. My point was to show what the term “Capital Restructuring” often means within the investing community and it almost always has nothing to do with a reverse split.

If I had to guess, I think the restructuring will be in the form of Appletreecapital having the Winsted Holdings’ shares transferred into them to still trade as WNSH while having Winsted Holdings transferred into an entity/company within or under Appletreecapital to have a profitable company reversed merged into. Just see it as Appletreecapital and Winsted Holdings changing positions of existence as the ticker WNSH remains with Appletreecapital to continue to exist as a medium to trade within the market.

I think Appletreecapital saw WNSH/Winsted Holdings as its medium to enter into the market to go from a private company to a public company without spending all of the money that would have been required with taking the IPO route.

Given WNSH’s old management and its history, I do see why one would exercise caution. There’s definitely new management with a new direction that will bring about some new history too. I think everyone should at least perform some due diligence (DD) on WNSH to discover certain “positive” facts for them selves and not just take what I post as the gospel. I am looking forward to see how things materialize in the near future.

v/r
Sterling

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.665.803 von Arielle81 am 13.07.07 10:00:34

+++++Alles nur Gerüchte!???++++


Nich ganz meine Liebe!!


Fakt: ++Francis P. Manzo III, President New President++

++Manzo ist Ceo von Appletree Capital Ltd.++

++Appletree Capital Ltd.ist vermerkt auf der offiz. Website

http://www.winstedholdings.com/


Was den Merger betrifft geh ich mal davon aus,das es z Verschmelzung mit Appletree kommen wird und der im Raum stehende RS.........hmmmmmm,wer weiß.....

[Arielle81]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.666.546 von KANTER am 13.07.07 10:49:46

Gibt es eine pr oder ein Filing?

Nein, dann sind es nur Gerüchte. Was ein CEO sagt und in Wirklichkeit macht sind 2 unterschiedliche Dinge, aber das weisst du ja

Bei mir ist alles im grünen Bereich, wie immer eben

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.666.922 von Arielle81 am 13.07.07 11:11:33

Wenn man einfach nich will,dann will man nich,nich wahr



Viel Glück noch mit deinen sich immer im grünen Breich währenden Invests

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.667.064 von KANTER am 13.07.07 11:21:09

Sorry,muss natürlich wähnenden heißen

[Arielle81]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.667.064 von KANTER am 13.07.07 11:21:09

Nicht immer, wir sind ja an der otc, aber immer öfter

Hm, Problem ist gerade dieser Laden hier hat seit es ihn gibt Dreck am stecken und daher ist Misstrauen angebracht.

Oder würdest du bei 0,0004 ohne pr oder Filinge diese Aktie kaufen?

[Arielle81]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.667.169 von Arielle81 am 13.07.07 11:27:24

Filinge ---> Filing

[Schnatzi]

News sind raus... Mal sehen was passiert...

Appletree Capital Takes Over Winsted Holdings and Announces New Control
Jul 13, 2007 11:15:00 AM
Copyright Business Wire 2007

NORTHFIELD, Ill.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--

Winsted Holdings, Inc. (Pink Sheets:WNSH) updates the market and announces new control by Appletree Capital Ltd.

New CEO and President Francis Manzo stated, "My objective for Winsted is to turnaround a stagnant situation and create shareholder value through innovative strategies." Former CEO Mark Ellis has resigned from the company and is no longer related or involved with the company. Winsted plans to change from a BDC to a Holding company format. This format will allow Winsted, through Appletree Capital and its partners, to bring multiple solid private companies into the public venue. Mr. Manzo went on to state, "We intend to use the same formula as Appletree Capital currently does in order to expose viable private companies to the public capital markets and to our venture capitalists."

Winsted is developing a new website http://www.winstedholdings.com in order to keep our shareholders informed on the company's progress through this transitional period. The company and Appletree Capital are also in the process of reviewing reverse merger candidates. Some of these candidates are in the sectors of food, retail, consumer products, and financial firms. Further updates will be forthcoming.

"Safe Harbor" Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:

This release includes forward-looking statements intended to qualify for the safe harbor from liability established by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements generally can be identified by phrases such as WNSH or its management "believes," "expects," "anticipates," "foresees," "forecasts," "estimates" or other words or phrases of similar import. Similarly, statements in this release that describe the Company's business strategy, outlook, objectives, plans, intentions or goals also are forward-looking statements. All such forward-looking statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in forward-looking statements.

Source: Winsted Holdings, Inc.

----------------------------------------------

Appletree Capital Ltd.
Northfield
IL
Francis P. Manzo III
President
847-441-1822

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.665.803 von Arielle81 am 13.07.07 10:00:34

He Arielle,du wolltest doch Fakten!??




Press Release Source: Winsted Holdings, Inc.


Appletree Capital Takes Over Winsted Holdings and Announces New ControlFriday July 13, 11:15 am ET


NORTHFIELD, Ill.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Winsted Holdings, Inc. (Pink Sheets:WNSH - News) updates the market and announces new control by Appletree Capital Ltd.
ADVERTISEMENT



New CEO and President Francis Manzo stated, "My objective for Winsted is to turnaround a stagnant situation and create shareholder value through innovative strategies." Former CEO Mark Ellis has resigned from the company and is no longer related or involved with the company. Winsted plans to change from a BDC to a Holding company format. This format will allow Winsted, through Appletree Capital and its partners, to bring multiple solid private companies into the public venue. Mr. Manzo went on to state, "We intend to use the same formula as Appletree Capital currently does in order to expose viable private companies to the public capital markets and to our venture capitalists."

Winsted is developing a new website http://www.winstedholdings.com in order to keep our shareholders informed on the company's progress through this transitional period. The company and Appletree Capital are also in the process of reviewing reverse merger candidates. Some of these candidates are in the sectors of food, retail, consumer products, and financial firms. Further updates will be forthcoming.

"Safe Harbor" Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:

This release includes forward-looking statements intended to qualify for the safe harbor from liability established by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements generally can be identified by phrases such as WNSH or its management "believes," "expects," "anticipates," "foresees," "forecasts," "estimates" or other words or phrases of similar import. Similarly, statements in this release that describe the Company's business strategy, outlook, objectives, plans, intentions or goals also are forward-looking statements. All such forward-looking statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in forward-looking statements.

[Schnatzi]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.672.728 von KANTER am 13.07.07 17:22:11

Ätsch ich war schneller...

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.672.768 von Schnatzi am 13.07.07 17:24:56

7 sek du Sack!

[Schnatzi]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.672.909 von KANTER am 13.07.07 17:33:42

Tja... Ich hab Deinen Rat befolgt und das ganze ein wenig verfolgt...

[KANTER]

+++++ Appletree Capital Takes Over Winsted Holdings and Announces New Control +++




The company and Appletree Capital are also in the process of reviewing reverse merger candidates. Some of these candidates are in the sectors of food, retail, consumer products, and financial firms. Further updates will be forthcoming.

[Schnatzi]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.673.350 von KANTER am 13.07.07 17:58:15

Die News ist zwar possitiv aufgenommen worden drüben aber der Kurs geht trotzdem nicht rauf... so ein mist... alle warte auf ne PR mit dem neuen Float...

[Wolfdeluxe]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.642.406 von KANTER am 11.07.07 22:16:09

Kanter damit hast du leider Recht...
klar RM klingt gut könnte natürlich noch was gehen. aber die neuen Fakten sind für mich hier nicht entscheidend. Entscheidend ist dass die in ihrer Vergangenheit nur gelogen haben um ständig neue Shares schmeissen zu können - dann die unzähligen R/S... fundamental null nur Fluff PR´s deshalb kann ich selbst die letzten News nicht ganz ernst nehmen;-)

Versteh mich nicht falsch, ich gönn dir deinen Gewinn vor allem wenn Du Ihn mit diesen Abzockern geschafft hast (immerhin 0,0001-->0,0004 400% bei schlauem Trading)und wünsche allen Investierten wirklich viel Glück! Mit Bhub, Cbay oder MHUS konnte man ja auch schöne Gewinne machen - man musste eben nur schnell genug raus sein...

Da Du ja anscheinend mehr weisst als ich, was die aktuelle Situation angeht, würde mich mal interessieren wo Du glaubst wo das Teil in 1-2 Wochen steht, und warum es noch weiter laufen sollte?? Weisst Du eigentlich wie hoch die OS bzw. AS sind ???

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.674.986 von Wolfdeluxe am 13.07.07 19:37:12

Servus Wolf


Lies dir die letzten Posts von mir durch,steht alles drin!


Ansonsten frag,ich muss erstmal was zwischen die Kiemen schieben



PS: was den Kurs in 2 Wochen betrrifft... hiihiiii,das wüsst ich auch zuuu gerne


Bräuchte man son Almanach,das wäre echt geil

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.674.986 von Wolfdeluxe am 13.07.07 19:37:12

Wie Arielle es ja schon erwäähnt hat ein offizielles Filling zum aktuellen Stand der Aktenstruktur gibt es noch nicht und darauf wartet man nun!


Nur soweit,was in Korrespondenz mit dem Unternehmen(evtlIR) schon im Umlauf ist:


Second, I also am aware of your goals to restructure WNSH. I am also aware that you and the company own 90% of the Outstanding Shares (OS). Please consider that a logical option for restructuring would be as I have seen certain stocks from my experience do within the penny stock market. This is to retire back a good portion of the 90% shares outstanding to the Treasury (Authorized Shares or AS) to where you would still own at least 51% of the majority of the OS. This would enhance the valuation in WNSH tremendously and would do wonders for the investing community for believing even much more in your business objectives.



Consider maybe retiring shares from the OS down to around 850 million:

(450 million owned by you for the controlling interest + the 400 million for the Float = 820 million)

Or

(3,600,000,000 – 850,000,000 = 2,750,000,000 shares needing to be retired)



This would mean that you could retire for an example 2.75 billion shares from the OS back to the Treasury and still maintain at least a 51% controlling interest. This could be the difference between WNSH trading in the triple zeros or the high pennies range or even much higher. I have also seen where some companies issue preferred shares a certain way to have a majority ownership upon conversion to reduce the OS to even lower numbers.

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.676.063 von KANTER am 13.07.07 20:51:50

................The deal of the terms when he took over the company was he bought 90% of the o/s which was supposed to be 3.6bb since the o/s stated 4bb in the agreement. Leaving around 400mm in the float he has mentioned to his knowledge. Well after touching base today it looks like the t/a told him o/s is 3.6bb but he has to find out for sure before releasing it publicly what exactly is in the float and out there. He has also mentioned retiring shares and or buying back. WNSH is one I will holding on too strongly to see what happens here over the short haul. This is one company/guy that has his hands on Wallstreet since there in the perfect business already (private-public equity, investment banking, venture capital, etc).....


Eins sollte man noch erwähnen......


Es ist zwar keine Garantie dafür,das nicht weiterhin auch Schindluder mit der Aktie und somit mit den Aktionären betrieen wird,aber der Fakt,das Ellis raus ist und APPLETREE das Kommando übernommen hat,ist nicht außer Acht zu lassen!

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.676.089 von KANTER am 13.07.07 20:54:57

[KANTER]

VOIP, first, thanks for the update, but with the news, your update, and other things that "strongly" appears to be forming, please consider my thoughts below...

1. Old management is gone with new control by Appletree Capital Ltd.

2. New CEO and President is Francis Manzo with goals to turnaround WNSH which was basically stagnant.

3. The new CEO plans on creating shareholder value through innovative strategies (I think I understand his innovative strategies).

4. The former CEO Mark Ellis has not only resigned from the company, but is no longer related or involved with the company.

5. WNSH plans to change from a BDC to a Holding company format. This is why he couldn’t do a reverse split even if he wanted to from my understanding of what was mentioned. The SEC won’t allow it although I am not wise on the logic.

6. Still, in going from a BDC to a Holding Company format, the company will not have a need or plan to do a reverse split.

7. Instead of a reverse split, the company has already made it known that they are planning on retiring shares and buying back shares to reduce the Outstanding Shares (OS).

8. WNSH, through Appletree Capital and its partners are currently working on bringing multiple solid private companies into the public venue. From my discussion I had with the National Investment Banking Association(NIBA), these private companies are all profitable. See posts below:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2…
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2…

9. Now this comment in the PR is something that is very very important that I think was very much a subliminal message as to how powerful WNSH will transform… Mr. Manzo went on to state, "We intend to use the same formula as Appletree Capital currently does in order to expose viable private companies to the public capital markets and to our venture capitalists." to get a better understanding of the magnitude of that comment, please read and understand the post below:
http://investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=21087…

10. The same formula and innovative strategies for creating shareholder value as mentioned above and in the PR means what was stated in the post below:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2…

11. A new website is in the process of being developed.

12. WNSH and Appletree Capital are in the process of reviewing reverse merger candidates in which some of them are in the sectors of food, retail, consumer products, and financial firms.

13. Further updates will be forthcoming.

14. It was recently thought that the Float was 400 million with the Outstanding Shares (OS) being 4 billion as the company has made known unofficially thus far that they have 90% of the OS which was part of the shares bought in the deal to obtain WNSH.

15. The company has gotten confirmation of from the company’s Transfer Agent (TA) of a potential disparity in the numbers for the OS and the Float where the OS could be 3.6 billion which would mean that the Float is 360 million considering the Float has to be 10% of the 90% of WNSH bought by Appletree Capital to consummate the deal for Appletree Capital buying the controlling interest.

16. The company is in the process of obtaining official confirmation and will release to the public ASAP as soon as their coordination between the DTC, TA, and Accountants is completed confirming which total is correct.

17. Still, the Float is anticipated to be zero as given the volume over the past few days, it is highly anticipated that there is no inventory of shares hence why many are expecting to see (a new term to me) a MOASS kick in.

[KANTER]

Steht uns da etwas gerad ein kleiner Ausbruch bevor!??


Schönes WE allen Investierten!!

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.676.523 von KANTER am 13.07.07 21:45:14

Ein möglicher Aquisekandidat!??


http://www.byersfood.com/

[KANTER]

Hier nochmal die offizielle PR von heute :





Appletree Capital Takes Over Winsted Holdings and Announces New ControlFriday July 13, 11:15 am ET


NORTHFIELD, Ill.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Winsted Holdings, Inc. (Pink Sheets:WNSH - News) updates the market and announces new control by Appletree Capital Ltd.
ADVERTISEMENT


New CEO and President Francis Manzo stated, "My objective for Winsted is to turnaround a stagnant situation and create shareholder value through innovative strategies." Former CEO Mark Ellis has resigned from the company and is no longer related or involved with the company. Winsted plans to change from a BDC to a Holding company format. This format will allow Winsted, through Appletree Capital and its partners, to bring multiple solid private companies into the public venue. Mr. Manzo went on to state, "We intend to use the same formula as Appletree Capital currently does in order to expose viable private companies to the public capital markets and to our venture capitalists."

Winsted is developing a new website http://www.winstedholdings.com in order to keep our shareholders informed on the company's progress through this transitional period. The company and Appletree Capital are also in the process of reviewing reverse merger candidates. Some of these candidates are in the sectors of food, retail, consumer products, and financial firms. Further updates will be forthcoming.

"Safe Harbor" Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:

This release includes forward-looking statements intended to qualify for the safe harbor from liability established by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements generally can be identified by phrases such as WNSH or its management "believes," "expects," "anticipates," "foresees," "forecasts," "estimates" or other words or phrases of similar import. Similarly, statements in this release that describe the Company's business strategy, outlook, objectives, plans, intentions or goals also are forward-looking statements. All such forward-looking statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in forward-looking statements.

[KANTER]

Posted by: pennypusher1
In reply to: ciccio who wrote msg# 7356 Date:7/13/2007 5:04:15 PM
Post #of 7358

intersting...

#1 von KANTER 27.04.07 22:38:43 Beitrag Nr.: 29.037.172
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Wiederauferstehung oder nur ein kurzes Aufflackern????


There is rumor going and in some cases CEO has also confirmed that an OTC company trading between $7 and $10 moving to Nasdaq will Reverse Merge with WNSH..so it's a speculative and risky play of Reverse Takeover..Company's registered agent also resigned recently adding to chances of it.




Hier ein update eines Telefonats mit dem CEO vom 24.04.2007



Posted by: stevenktallman
In reply to: None Date:4/24/2007 2:54:29 PM
Post #of 1762

Sent By: mhinsea Date: 4/24/2007 2:42:52 PM

Dont know if you know this or not, I got a call from Mark Ellis a few minutes ago and this is what I got:


1. The company that presented the LOI is BUGS

2. The company has a buying group that is aquiring ALMOST ALL OF THE FLOAT so they can control the PPS (hence the volume yesterday and today)

3. They are going to announce the company and the terms of the deal by the EOW.


If any of this information is new, feel free to post it to the board.


Outstanding Shares: 1.6 Billion (As per CEO)
Float : 700M (Reduced from 1 Billion )
Outsider Float: 120 Million?
Buyback of ALMOST ALL OF THE FLOAT in process (As per CEO)


Keine Kaufempfehlung!!!

Greetings from carnelsonG!!!!

[Irishkiller]

vor 1-2 Jahren konnte die man auch in D zocken...wisst Ihr,warum die nicht mehr gehandelt wird???Könnte es sein,dass ein Handel wieder aufgenommen wird???

danke und schönes WE!

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.682.084 von Irishkiller am 14.07.07 11:23:26

Moin moin


Handel in D!?? Glaub ich kaum...ist momentan nur in Übersee zu handeln bzw. zu zocken

Aber vielleicht wird sie ja nach dem Merger unter neuem Namen in D gelistet!??

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.676.706 von KANTER am 13.07.07 21:58:05

Wäre doch ne lecker Angelegenheit

[KANTER]

Posted by: stervc
In reply to: None Date:7/10/2007 2:21:27 AM
Post #of 7554

WNSH as a Holding Company…

Last week I called Martin Allen Brown at Zhemian Ventures. Martin is the Founder of Zhemian Ventures. I didn’t ask, but I think he is the CEO of Zhemian Ventures too. Today he returned my phone calls. He stated that he has been in contact with Franco, the new CEO of WNSH. He explained to me his role and many things that were very new to me for understanding so please have some patience in reading and understanding how I tried to simply explain things.

Martin is also a Securities Lawyer too that specializes in many things to include SEC/NASD compliance. He has been appointed by Mayor Kathy Taylor of Tulsa as a member of the City of Tulsa’s Economic Development Commission. Martin also specializes in the net income (NI) approach vs. net operating income (NOI) approach to capital structuring. Martin was the recipient of the TU Law Alumni Association’s Outstanding Committee Chair award in 2004 and Outstanding Alumnus in 2005. Ok, I’m convinced that this guy knows what he is doing and is probably cautious about his involvements to make sure his reputation is not tarnished.

He can be reached at the info below within the website which is also in the Ibox:
http://zhemian.com/
Zhemian Ventures, L.L.C.
6128 E. 38th Street
Suite 312
Tulsa, Oklahoma 74135
[phone] (Phone)
[phone] (Facsimile)

Martin explained to me that Zhemian Ventures is responsible for getting Appletreecapital’s clients. All of Appletreecapital’s clients are highly established Institutions as he informed me. These Institutions are already proven that they deal with in raising capital. They go to these Institutions to get a certain amount of capital because they show these Institutions how they can guarantee them a return in the area of 25% or so through a group of already proven and existing profitable private companies with proven business plans currently existing. Martin told me that they only deal with profitable companies.

I informed him that when investors hear of raising $125 million in capital within the penny stock world, we have a tendency to think of the capital being raised through the company selling/dumping shares into the market. He told me “not here.” They get their capital from Institutions that wants to give them capital to invest because of their proven track record and guarantee they give them in returns over the next one to two years.

After a year or two, they give the Institutions the opportunity to cash in on their 25% gain. I know that 25% does not seem like much to us here in the penny stock world, but to the Institutions, they only care about small gains like such over an extended period of time because of the large amount of dollars invested. These investments are definitely less volatile. Although Appletreecapital is not a mutual fund, a better way to see them is to see them as a company that acts as a mutual fund for the Institutional Investors just the same as a regular mutual fund acts for us retail investors.

Martin explained to me how Appletreecapital would generate Revenues. Appletreecapital (now WNSH) would make their money from what he called “The Carry” and “Management Fees”

** “The Management Fee” is the 2% through 7% return on the deal closed and matured with the Institution.

** “The Carry” is the amount that is left over after Appletreecapital pays out the promised 25% to the Institution. Usually this amount is more than what was paid out to the Institution and is what is paid back to the Appletreecapital and its shareholders. This is usually the bulk of the return.

Appletreecapital merging into WNSH will already be profitable and already have a list of confirmed Institutional clientele support. He could not tell me the amount, but I did get out of him that they are nearly completed in raising the $125 million through the Institutions. Now, with this $125 million, at first I didn’t understand something about the use of that money. My thoughts were… “Why couldn’t they use the $125 million raised to buy back shares?” The reason was because the $125 million is raised capital that was given to them by the Institutions to invest in the promised profitable private companies that were already reviewed. The money used to buyback shares would come from other areas as he mentioned to include money made from “The Carry” and “Management Fees.”

Again, Martin told me that the Management Fee is the 2% through 7% return on the deal closed and matured with the Institution. Let’s consider on a low side a Management Fee of 2% of this $125 million deal.

This means that Appletreecapital would get the 2% Management Fee below:

$125,000,000 x .02 (2%) = $2,500,000

Martin told me that “The Carry” is usually an amount that is equivalent to or greater than the amount paid out to the Institutions or more. Martin told me that this is the amount that is paid back to Appletreecapital and its shareholders. This is usually the bulk of the return. I see why too. Let’s say that they have a bad year and could not give the Institutions the promised 25% return on their money, but instead only 15% return on their money. This would mean that as a minimum, Appletreecapital would get as a minimum, 15% of that $125 million as “The Carry” which means:

$125,000,000 x .15 (15%) = $18,750,000

The total amount that Appletreecapital would walk away from with this deal to include both the “Management Fees” and “The Carry” would be:

$2,500,000 + $18,750,000 = $21,250,000

Since the overhead from running this kind of business is very minimal, I think it would be fair to affix a quarter of the $21,250,000 in Revenues to be attributable towards paying the Expenses. To consider this situation, this would be as such below:

$21,250,000 – ($21,250,000 ÷ 4) = Income
$21,250,000 – ($5,312,500) = $15,937,500

The $15.9 million would be cleared as profit as the Expenses for WNSH would be more than taken out from Revenues generated. Even with an OS of 4 billion shares as a worse case scenario, consider below:

$15,937,500 ÷ 4,000,000,000 shares = Earnings Per Share (EPS)
$15,937,500 ÷ 4,000,000,000 shares = 0.00398 (EPS)

Using a Conservative P/E Ratio of 12 x .00398 = .047 per share

This means that in only including the current $125 million deal and not any future deals, WNSH could logically and fundamentally be worth .047 per share if they only make 2% in Management Fees and 15% as “The Carry” if they were only able to give the Institution a 15% return on their money from this deal.
I told Martin that this is a rather complicated business model for an average investor like me and many others. I asked him if I could share our discussions within some investor forums to help them understand what is going on and he said that such was fine.

The information that I have posted in the past and now is information gathered from doing my own DD. It appears that WNSH is still in the preliminary stages of a major transformation. It will be up to the new management to begin officially informing WNSH shareholders of their new direction for being a holding company. I do see some potential in WNSH given its new business model and direction. I think everyone should always be cautious of any investment enough to not solely believe what anyone is saying or post. So please do your own DD to determine if WNSH is worth you taking the risk. I hope this helps.

v/r
Sterling

[KANTER]

Muss mich korrigieren



"....Was den Merger betrifft geh ich mal davon aus,das es z Verschmelzung mit Appletree kommen wird und der im Raum stehende RS.........hmmmmmm,wer weiß....."





Appletree Capital ist eine Venture Capital Gesellschaft und hat mit Datum vom 13.07.2007 Winsted Holdings unter seine Kontrolle genommen!! Appletree seinerseits fungiert als "Suchmaschine" für mögliche RM Aquisekandidaten für den "Mantel" WNSH.Wenn ich es richtig verstanden habe,besitzt das Gesamtvolumen des Mergers 125.000.000 Dollar.





Gruß KANTER

[Schnatzi]

Bezüglich dem R/S... Ich kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass Sie einen R/S machen... Da würden sie sich ja selber ins eigene Fleisch schneiden... Ich denke sie bringen unsere WNSH schon richtig auf Kurs... Weis jetzt schon wie der Free Float ist?

[Schnatzi]

WNSH Restructuring Thoughts…

I had read where Martin, from Zhemian Ventures, specialized in Capital Restructuring. So I centered my second conversation on the Capital Restructuring of WNSH after I did some further research too on the topic. I told him that Franco, the new WNSH CEO, had emailed some investors talking about a Capital Restructuring. I told him that within the penny stock world, when we hear the term “Capital Restructuring” we normally think in terms of the share structure changing; normally through a reverse split. I told him that investors are terrified given WNSH’s past history of reverse splits as some people are still spooked.

Martin told me that he has no knowledge of a reverse split with WNSH. That was a positive, but I still know that there are two concepts for the growth of a stock that often gets ignored, especially by CEOs and their personnel/affiliates. There is the concept of “growing your stock” and the concept of “growing your company.” I understand that Martin is on the side of “growing your company” and could very well not be informed if there are plans of a reverse split. Still, I was glad to know he had no knowledge of a reverse split to take place.

I explained to Martin the Capital Restructuring that was done by Schwab last week on 2 Jul 07 and some of the details mentioned by Schwab and other stocks that had done Capital Restructuring. He informed me that the Capital Restructuring for WNSH would be on the same lines as that of Schwab and those other deals I mentioned for things they have done. I got a little excited because from the PR below from Schwab, their Capital Restructuring Program included a special dividend, share buyback plan and debt offerings.
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=business…

With this announcement Schwab just made last Monday on 2 July 07, Schwab’s shares rose and closed at $22.00 for their strongest gain of the year.

He did not give me any specific details as I tried to get some exacts, but he told me that when Appletreecapital is referring to Capital Restructuring, they are not making reference to the company doing a reverse split. He said that it involves the things I mentioned to him from my research such as buybacks, transferring of assets from one entity within the company to under another entity within the company under the same ultimate ownership, the sale of certain divisions, etc. He stated that for him to do these things, a reverse split was not discussed as an option. I did believe him although I know that still a reverse split should always be in the back of the minds of shareholders as an option just by being a penny stock.

Below are some links to read for researching Capital Restructuring:

A Law Firm in the UK
http://www.manches.com/practices/corporate/service.php?id=25…

ICFAI University Press
http://www.icfaiuniversitypress.org/books/Capital_Restructur…

The DOFASCO Capital Restructuring Program
http://www.dofasco.ca/INVESTORS/2004_annual_report/md_and_a_…

Dynegy Inc. (NYSEYN) Capital Restructuring Program
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-80838994.html

Russell-Stanley’s Capital Restructuring Program
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2001_July_17/…

I am by no means saying that I know for a fact that there won’t be a reverse split with WNSH. My point was to show what the term “Capital Restructuring” often means within the investing community and it almost always has nothing to do with a reverse split.

If I had to guess, I think the restructuring will be in the form of Appletreecapital having the Winsted Holdings’ shares transferred into them to still trade as WNSH while having Winsted Holdings transferred into an entity/company within or under Appletreecapital to have a profitable company reversed merged into. Just see it as Appletreecapital and Winsted Holdings changing positions of existence as the ticker WNSH remains with Appletreecapital to continue to exist as a medium to trade within the market.

I think Appletreecapital saw WNSH/Winsted Holdings as its medium to enter into the market to go from a private company to a public company without spending all of the money that would have been required with taking the IPO route.

Given WNSH’s old management and its history, I do see why one would exercise caution. There’s definitely new management with a new direction that will bring about some new history too. I think everyone should at least perform some due diligence (DD) on WNSH to discover certain “positive” facts for them selves and not just take what I post as the gospel. I am looking forward to see how things materialize in the near future.

v/r
Sterling

[Arielle81]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.672.728 von KANTER am 13.07.07 17:22:11

Auch das sind keine Fakten mein Lieber. Mich überzeugt das Ganze überhaupt nicht, aber wie gesagt wünsche dir einen 100 bagger. Ich muss ja nicht immer recht haben, aber meistens ist es leider so

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.710.889 von Arielle81 am 16.07.07 14:23:40

Auf eine grüne Woche Arielle!!!!

[Schnatzi]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.711.157 von KANTER am 16.07.07 14:44:13

Was meinst wo der Kurs heute hingeht?

[KANTER]

[KANTER]

[KANTER]

Sent By: VOIP-INTERFACE To: carnelsonG Date: 7/16/2007 11:33:23 AM

*****BOARD UPDATE READ*****->
Frank is currently as we speak finishing up filing the 8k for Edgar (New Mgnt)and the 14c to move us into a Holding company to start the launch. Stay tunned for more updates. He is bringing us current and up to date.

He also spoke to DTC today and should hear back from them and have an update soon.

[Schnatzi]

Bei den Amis wird rege diskutiert... Das wir noch alles sehr interessant in den nächsten Tagen... Ich bleibe dabei, WNSH wird noch ganz schön steigen...

[midnight_1]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.714.630 von KANTER am 16.07.07 18:12:12

läuft gut für dich mein Freund, vergiß aber nicht rechtzeitig glattzustellen, nur cash in the tasch zählt

[Schnatzi]

Heute gönnt sie WNSH wohl ne kleine Verschnaufpause was.?

[oski]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.729.228 von Schnatzi am 17.07.07 16:49:04

panikverkäufe und die MM's nützen es aus

[oski]

die aktie wird der hammer nur geduld

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.730.752 von oski am 17.07.07 18:12:20

Wenn kommt was angekündigt,dann ja


Aktie pendelt im Moment und weiß eigentlich nich so recht in welche Richtung



Abwarten

[KANTER]

Posted by: VOIP-INTERFACE
In reply to: VOIP-INTERFACE who wrote msg# 7642 Date:7/17/2007 12:26:59 PM
Post #of 10672

*********Posted by: VOIP-INTERFACE************
In reply to: soupoftheday who wrote msg# 7568
Date:7/14/2007 1:17:26 PM
Post #of 10656

*****That's the agreement of the terms. He was suppose to have 90% of the 4bb o/s Mark said their was out there. Come to find out the t/a has told him there are 3.6bb issued and o/s. Question is how many are at the t/a for him and how many did he get in cert form upon the closing of the transaction. Plus he mentioned that cause of the t/a not being up to date and paid when he took over it was hard to figure out the exact numbers. He has them working on it and he just started working with DTC as well. One thing is for sure he needs to make sure that the t/a prints whatever shares that are still owed to him and make sure that every nut and bolt is super tight before moving forward. I would sure hate to be this guy Mark god for bid he lied about the 4bb o/s and delivering 90% cause as of now the REAL o/s is 3.6bb Frank said via the t/a now that their paid up to date so Mark already lied about the 4.bb its really 3.6bb. Question is whats truly in the float and still owed to Frank?

Reason I will wait and be patient here is cause either or up down sideways Frank has made good on his word and mentioning he wants the shareholders to be rewarded in this transition period. He's willing to do buybacks and if needed retire shares, he more than anyone wants this to be a higher PPS stock by doing so in the right way for his clients/shareholders.
So know matter what I have no concern waiting for this to unfold as its not a get rich scheme for Frank/Appletree but rather a Get Wealthy With Work. This all of course is my belief.

[oski]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.731.064 von KANTER am 17.07.07 18:31:18

die hat der ähnliche charakter wie BHUB nur eine spur besser

[KANTER]

[Arielle81]

Bisschen schneller. News für dich


Business Wire "US Press Releases "

NORTHFIELD, Ill.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--

Winsted Holdings, Inc. (Pink Sheets:WNSH) updates the market on future plans.

President and CEO Francis Manzo stated, "On taking over management of Winsted we believe the Company because of its shareholder base has excellent opportunities to become an 'incubator' for businesses seeking to expand in the public venue. Winsted plans to engage in business of consulting and assisting solid private companies into the public market. The company is in the process of reviewing reverse merger candidates and business entities interested in pursuing becoming a public company.

"Our agreement with the former CEO Mark Ellis was to transfer 90% control of the firm to Appletree BDC, Inc. We find that Mr. Ellis misrepresented the situation in the transfer and control agreement. We are still optimistic that we can turnaround a stagnant situation and create shareholder value through innovative strategies.

"What we know at the present time is that there are 3,620,241,722 common shares issued and outstanding. We are currently in the process of re-establishing the Company's book and records, and making arrangements with accountants and attorneys to assist in bringing the Company into compliance with regulatory requirements.

"For our shareholder concerns, there is no consideration at this time to do a reverse split. We are considering ways to maximize returns for our shareholders including, but not limited to, stock buy backs and spin-offs of holdings that we acquire."

"Safe Harbor" Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:

This release includes forward-looking statements intended to qualify for the safe harbor from liability established by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements generally can be identified by phrases such as WNSH or its management "believes," "expects," "anticipates," "foresees," "forecasts," "estimates" or other words or phrases of similar import. Similarly, statements in this release that describe the Company's business strategy, outlook, objectives, plans, intentions or goals also are forward-looking statements. All such forward-looking statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in forward-looking statements.

Source: Winsted Holdings, Inc.

[wayne99]

Press Release Source: Winsted Holdings, Inc.


Update on Winsted Holdings Changes
Tuesday July 17, 1:09 pm ET


NORTHFIELD, Ill.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Winsted Holdings, Inc. (Pink Sheets:WNSH - News) updates the market on future plans.


President and CEO Francis Manzo stated, "On taking over management of Winsted we believe the Company because of its shareholder base has excellent opportunities to become an 'incubator' for businesses seeking to expand in the public venue. Winsted plans to engage in business of consulting and assisting solid private companies into the public market. The company is in the process of reviewing reverse merger candidates and business entities interested in pursuing becoming a public company.

"Our agreement with the former CEO Mark Ellis was to transfer 90% control of the firm to Appletree BDC, Inc. We find that Mr. Ellis misrepresented the situation in the transfer and control agreement. We are still optimistic that we can turnaround a stagnant situation and create shareholder value through innovative strategies.

"What we know at the present time is that there are 3,620,241,722 common shares issued and outstanding. We are currently in the process of re-establishing the Company's book and records, and making arrangements with accountants and attorneys to assist in bringing the Company into compliance with regulatory requirements.

"For our shareholder concerns, there is no consideration at this time to do a reverse split. We are considering ways to maximize returns for our shareholders including, but not limited to, stock buy backs and spin-offs of holdings that we acquire."

"Safe Harbor" Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:

This release includes forward-looking statements intended to qualify for the safe harbor from liability established by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements generally can be identified by phrases such as WNSH or its management "believes," "expects," "anticipates," "foresees," "forecasts," "estimates" or other words or phrases of similar import. Similarly, statements in this release that describe the Company's business strategy, outlook, objectives, plans, intentions or goals also are forward-looking statements. All such forward-looking statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in forward-looking statements.



Contact:
Appletree Capital Ltd., Northfield, IL
Francis P. Manzo III, President, 847-441-1822
http://www.winstedholdings.com/
[e-mail]

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Source: Winsted Holdings, Inc.

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.731.955 von Arielle81 am 17.07.07 19:13:22

Irgendwie mag ich dich ein wenig

[Schnatzi]

Da wird ja heiß diskutiert in den USA über das Update... Wie seht ihr das? Ich denk doch schon sehr possitv zu sehen das Update oder.?

[oski]

0005 x 0006 6x4

[oski]

hru 4:00:06 PM

PPS . . Trades . Volume
0.0004.......21.....29,002,000
0.0005......252....250,501,215
0.0006......256....248,875,565
0.0007.......98.....85,656,100
0.0008.......14......9,882,000

Average PPS - 0.0006
Average Shares Traded - 973,349 ( $558)

.............Time............... Trades..... Volume
09:00 AM - 09:59 AM - - 114 - - - 99,980,500
10:00 AM - 10:59 AM - - 152 - - - 150,560,570
11:00 AM - 11:59 AM - - 38 - - - 32,623,800
12:00 PM - 12:59 PM - - 83 - - - 81,624,700
01:00 PM - 01:59 PM - - 162 - - - 175,485,715
02:00 PM - 02:59 PM - - 46 - - - 39,794,000
03:00 PM - 03:59 PM - - 45 - - - 43,047,595

04:00 PM - 04:59 PM - - 1 - - - 800,000
05:00 PM - 05:59 PM - - - - -

Total Traded Volume - 623,916,880
-----------------------------------------------------

There were 215 trades OVER 1,000,000 shares
- Total Shares- - - 471,328,500
- Average PPS - - - 0.0006
--------------------------------------------

There were 1 trades UNDER 1,000 shares

0.0006 ---- 930 ---- 3:31:14 PM

[KANTER]

MAXM Market Maker always showing 500,000 size on bid=Appletree/Frank????????
-------------------------------------------------------
****Regardless the true float or o/s here I will publicly say I expect Appletree/Frank to retire and or buy back shares. Either or his objective is to get the pps higher and at a more attractable price for larger candidates. My gut feeling is to many people will react to quick as to what happens here day to day instead of looking at the big picture here->
WINSTED-APPLETREE-ZHEMIAN

[oski]

Good Morning all!

"....****BOARD UPDATE****** Just got this info from my associate and tech. SPREAD THE WORD-> I know I'm good!!!!!

Company coming in?

Appletree BDC Inc. (they already have a cusip and ISIN number) I'm in transit now and wanted to forward the info I just got. Hard from my PDA device.

ISSUER: APPLETREE BDC INC

CUSIP NUMBER: 038148 102
ISIN NUMBER: US0381481029.."

[Schnatzi]

So ein kleiner Kursrückgang tut sicher gut... Heute geht es wieder nach oben!

[KANTER]

heheeeeeeeeeeeeee

[sachsenklebe]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.751.796 von KANTER am 18.07.07 21:25:25

Wie kam denn das Zustande
Da habe ich ja verpasst zu verkaufen
Hoffentlich bleibt der Kurs demnächst etwas länger so stehen.

Good luck!

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.752.566 von sachsenklebe am 18.07.07 22:04:53

He sachsenpaule


Das war ein Mirrortrade,also nicht der Rede wert

[oski]

das ding wird bald abheben und trader stervc ist dabei der hat ein gutes gespür für ein paar 100%

[Schnatzi]

With the WNSH Article & Mark Ellis…

The thoughts below are centered on the article below:
http://www.ocregister.com/money/winsted-ellis-company-176871…

The link above confirms that the WNSH shell was sold for $2,000 for strategic reasons. If I had to guess, Mark Ellis was in some big trouble with the SEC and needed to get out from under the ownership of WNSH very very quickly. From whatever trouble he was in, he just wanted to get from under the heavy scrutiny from the SEC.

He sold the WNSH shell so cheap for a few reasons in my opinion. First, the bulk, if not all, of his problems probably centered on the things done while using WNSH and/or the WNSH shareholders as their mediums for wrongdoings. To sell for so cheap the WNSH shell, Mark must have wanted out of WNSH very bad. Second, he could still capture the same or better profits as he would have captured from selling the WNSH shell at much higher prices. He knows where Appletree is fundamentally going to take the price of WNSH.

I understand now even more from reading the article as more clue lights have been turned on. Mark Ellis has bought either the majority of the float or the entire float as what he informed me of what he/they were doing. I didn’t think much of it at the time months ago, but now I really understand why.

Selling WNSH for $2,000 was an outstanding plan because he knew that he would not just simply give up something for nothing. Mark knew that he could make his money back from within the OS and outside the OS because of the value of the company he was allowing to be brought in. Mark would make his money back on selling shares of the float and naked short shares he bought after the price substantially increases from significant valuation being placed into WNSH. This is why Mark chose Appletree Capital.

Take the below scenario for an example to consider and visualize what I think is going on here with Mark Ellis selling Appletree Capital the controlling interest in WNSH for $2,000.

With what WNSH is talking about doing, they are mirroring the business plan of CMGI in acting as an incubator to transform and grow companies from private to public realms. CMGI trades on the NASDAQ at $1.80+ per share. A good example would be to imagine CMGI valued as it is today, but existing only as a private company for now only for this example.

Now imagine that CMGI wanted to go from a private company to a publicly trading company within the market. If you had some connections to get the word of CMGI’s desire to go public, you would make them an offer they could not refuse versus them taking the expensive IPO route or buying a good clean shell.

You would tell them that you would sell them the WNSH shell for $2,000. You tell them you are selling it so cheap for logical reasons as CMGI would be unaware of researching further certain details because you would know of CMGI’s inexperience in the penny stock world. They would have no idea that you would just want to get out of everything as soon as possible because you know that just getting out from under the ownership of WNSH is how you could move on with your life leaving the scrutiny from the SEC behind you.

However, you want to make CMGI think that you are a very nice guy who is giving them a good deal, but you really don’t want to just give it away without getting anything paid in return from what you know a real shell or any shell would really cost. You tell them a few little secrets of 1 or 2 skeletons in the closet about the company that they would have to fix. After all, you don’t want to make the deal look too good. For at/around $2,000, CMGI sees it as an awesome deal after researching how much it would cost for them to IPO or to buy a good clean shell. So they buy it; WNSH!

Now, with the above example I used with CMGI, replace “CMGI” with “Appletree Capital” and maybe you can see what could be transpiring right here in front of us. Hopefully you understand the magnitude of what could transpire and greatly appears to be too.

The deal is consummated with Appletree Capital as the old CEO, Mark Ellis, buys up the float while not making such public knowledge. Quietly, the Market Makers (MMs) help by continually naked shorting WNSH because Mark have convinced them through its history of dilution and reverse splits that WNSH is never going to amount to anything.

Now you get with your buddies to explain the plan so that they can buy up the float (for you) so that none of the shares bought can be traceable in any way shape or form back to your name after being bought back from the open market. Your buddies love the plan and buy back the float and some. This explains some of the high volume days in the past where a total of billions of shares traded at the ASK while not having a BID. Again, nothing would be considered wrong for these actions because the shares would not be able to be traced back to Mark for the shares he bought; or maybe I should better state such as the shares he had somebody else buy for him.

So in reality, Mark Ellis might have done us all a favor on one hand by getting the inventory of shares to zero and/or in the red. We really should thank him as if it was not for him, we would not have ever researched WNSH or been in this WNSH situation. He could have been stubborn about many things. His departure did wonders as we will later talk about the 90% portion of the deal that is unclear to some of us and maybe Mark too as far as what he still might needs to do to really be done with WNSH and the SEC.

With this plan, everyone comes out a winner; Mark, Appletree, and the shareholders. We all should win and win big because the covering from the expected huge “demand” of our WNSH shares will come into play in my opinion as the MMs will need to capture the “supply” of WNSH shares they allowed to exist by increasing the bid to prices high enough to entice us to sell for them to balance their books, especially if a quality dividend is done right to force an accountability of WNSH shares with the MMs, TA, and DTC. This is another story, but I will talk about this later in the future.

As more legitimacy is revealed from the new WNSH and more buying pressure comes in, the MMs are going to eventually see the decision to cover as soon as possible by increasing the bid to get more sellers to get more WNSH shares out of market circulation. This will keep them from covering at higher prices the sooner the MMs do this. After all, 28 Sep 07, is right around the corner to where all naked short shares/Failure to Delivers are to be covered. The above are my opinions as to what I think could have transpired as an option.

I do not know Mark Ellis personally, but he didn’t seem like a bad guy although he has a reputation along with some other things that might lead one to think different. Just remember though his major role in making this Appletree deal happening. If for some reason Appletree would have chosen to go elsewhere or use other means for going public, we probably would not have ever been investors and believers in WNSH as were are today.

v/r
Sterling

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.756.651 von Schnatzi am 19.07.07 10:48:53

Danke Schnatzi für den aufschlussreichen Beitrag!!

[KANTER]

Wünsche allen WNSHlern ein supi Wochenendeund man sieht sich nächste Woche wieder!



Gruß KANTER

[KANTER]

Posted by: ChangeDirector
In reply to: None Date:7/22/2007 1:13:37 AM
Post #of 14350

I spoke with Frank Manzo on Friday and have some information to share that may be useful and interesting. I am not posting it just now as I think it would be best to post it Monday morning. I don't mean to be a tease, but I was very happy with our conversation and email followup. He answered my email quickly and called me that same afternoon at my request. When I emailed him today (Saturday) for further followup he responded again in the same day. I am needless to say very impressed. He has of course been flooded with emails since this transaction has been completed. Yes, completed.
Best,

CD

[oski]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.792.715 von KANTER am 22.07.07 11:34:39

schönen sonntag
montag gehts erst richtig los

[oski]

WNSH-Posted by: VOIP-INTERFACE
Date:7/22/2007 11:57:14 AM
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

****Board Update**** and information I have gotten my hands on-> The Byers Food I originally mentioned here below->
Byers Food Company
http://www.byersfood.com/
5402 Brittany
McHenry, Illinois
60050-3354
C.E.O Frank Manzo
http://web.archive.org/web/20000416002105/www.byersfood.com/…

Found out that Frank/Byers Food deals with both companies listed below

1. They deal with Sea Watch out of Maryland
Sea Watch International is proud to be recognized as the largest harvester and processor of clam products in the world. All of our clams are harvested in US fishing waters under US Federal regulations. Over the past 28 years Sea Watch has taken its place as the leader in the offshore clam industry.
http://www.seawatch.com/

2. They also deal with Diana's Specialties out of Illinois
The goal of Diana's Specialty Foods is to produce the best products that you, your family and friends have ever tasted. Specializing in creating gourmet food products using the finest ingredients from around the world, every recipe is manufactured in small batches to bring you the fresh flavorful taste of homemade.
http://www.dianasspecialtyfoods.com/

[KANTER]

Posted by: ChangeDirector
In reply to: None Date:7/22/2007 9:53:42 PM
Post #of 14529

I spoke with the new CEO of Winsted Holdings (WNSH), Francis (Frank) Manzo, around 4:00 p.m. Friday, July 20, and we exchanged a few follow-up emails. Below is a synopsis of our interactions in question and answer format, in an attempt to make it easier to follow, though this was not the exact structure of our conversation. I have done my best to characterize everything accurately, but I cannot and will not be held responsible for any information in this post that turns out to change, or to be characterized incorrectly.

Please also note, I have absolutely no further information or clarifications at this time. I am unable to parse individual words or phrases or statements, or tone of voice, to find hidden meanings. Please do not message me publicly or privately asking for further information about our interaction. I also have no intention of contacting Mr. Manzo again during the current week at least.

As I said before, I don’t know that there is anything earth-shattering here. You be the judge; have at it. I frankly did not ask a ton of questions as I was not expecting such a quick response, and I’m sure there is plenty that has gone unasked or unanswered.

The address of Appletree Capital is listed on their website as being in Northfield, Illinois. I am personally happy that Appletree and Mr. Manzo are working from there, as I know a lot of honest and good people from that part of the country (as there are everywhere, but hopefully you know what I mean). He had a recognizable midwestern accent, also sounding quite like an experienced businessman, and if not born and raised in that area has been there for some time, IMHO.

I would say that Mr. Manzo was very friendly, personable and intelligent, and he answered all my of questions to the fullest extent that he could within legal guidelines.

Q: One sentence in the 2nd of the two recent news releases, which otherwise sounded very positive, that “We find that Mr. Ellis misrepresented the situation in the transfer and control agreement” may have concerned some shareholders and potential shareholders. Can you clarify the meaning of this statement?

A: The issues mentioned in the 2nd press release regarding Mr. Ellis misrepresenting in the agreement meant that he did not provide all the information that was required to facilitate an easy transfer. This means we have had to apply for Edgar codes so that filings can be done timely[, which have been filed for but not yet received (note, not 100% certain about this bracketed portion)]. Also as a result of this missing information management has to rebuild the corporate book and records.

Q: Do these issues affect the status of the agreement between Appletree and Winsted? Is the deal somehow in limbo due to these issues?

A: The deal has been completed.

Q: Can you briefly describe the changes pursuant to the agreement?

A: Ellis is definitively out, and Mr. Manzo is the new CEO. Appletree has acquired a majority of the voting control of WNSH. Further information is available in the 2 press releases.

Q: Some are concerned that preferred shares may be being sold into the market. Do you have any information on this?

A: There are no known preferred shares available that are being sold into the market. All were assigned to Appletree BDC, Inc.

(Mr. Manzo has not yet responded to my follow-up asking for further specifics of the share structure, and I do not necessarily expect a response. I am presuming that this may be part of the reconstruction of the company’s books and/or that he cannot say anything about it at this time for legal or accounting reasons.)

Q: What is the status of finding candidates to take under the umbrella of WNSH? Is it a time-consuming process to find candidates?

A: Appletree has existing candidates to take under the umbrella of WNSH rather than needing to search for candidates, although that does not rule out searching for additional candidates.

Q: Some have speculated on a relationship with Byers Foods. Can you comment on that?

A: Byers Foods has no relationship with WNSH. Byers could be a spin-off candidate in the future, but no decision has been made either way.

Q: The Byers Foods website looks like a work in progress. Is Byers foods operational, I haven’t seen their products in my stores?

A: Yes, they are operational. Their products are available regionally and therefore are possibly not available in your state.
Q: How long has Appletree been in business?

A: Appletree has been in business for 3 years started by Mr. Manzo and has associates/staff that have backgrounds in various areas (such as turnaround, pension management, healthcare, banking and consumer products).
Q: Can you provide me with any information on on existing companies that Appletree is developing or investing in, apart from the WNSH transaction? There's nothing specific about this on your website.

A: Sorry, that's because that information is confidential.

Mr. Manzo also confirmed his PR’d statement that there is no consideration at this time to do a reverse split. He actually said “No reverse split”. He also said, "Ellis is out, that's all you guys really need to know."

Best,

[KANTER]

[oski]

0.0008 vol.225mill.
sieht gut aus für diese woche

[Schnatzi]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.814.374 von KANTER am 23.07.07 16:57:31

oder auch wieder nicht... was ist denn jetzt los? Wieso wieder auf die blöde 6?

[oski]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.818.116 von Schnatzi am 23.07.07 21:20:23

locker, ohne NEWS rauf runter, aber gut zum traden

[KANTER]

[oski]

schöner schlussplus 33%

[oski]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.818.341 von KANTER am 23.07.07 21:36:39

will auch haben

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.819.003 von oski am 23.07.07 22:12:15

Kannste demnächst bei EBAY ersteigern!!!

[KANTER]

Moin moin!





Posted by: stervc
In reply to: VOIP-INTERFACE who wrote msg# 15444 Date:7/24/2007 1:09:20 AM
Post #of 15517

VOIP-INTERFACE, with that name, CUSIP, & symbol update...

Thanks again for your update as I am getting somewhat caught up again on the posts.

I think what we all must understand is that it would be “too illogical” to name any type of reverse merger closure while under this current name, CUSIP, and symbol. These three things must first change.

These three things are the initial things that must happen to confirm for many that WNSH/Appletree is serious. Personally, I believe, many will wait to believe when those things happen. This will begin the major contribution towards a covering of a naked shorted position for the reasons I posted before in the post below:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

Enough have been approved to where I don’t see an issue with the SEC to where a halt would happen. So, until those three things happen, I don’t think we will see any huge announcements under this tarnished old name. After these three things happen, I think the MMs will simply concede to trade the new Appletree Capital fairly to include a covering in my opinion.

As for now, I see steady uptrend and appreciation in share price as many do their due diligence (DD) to see what us here now sees in WNSH. Still, WNSH should continue graduating to the next levels of trading on a daily basis until then in my opinion.

v/r
Sterling

[oski]

denke diese woche GREAT news

[oski]

GOINGUP11 & Go Sooners, with that new DD...

As we know, we can and are expecting "some" mergers to transpire here with WNSH.

David Crais is a partner with Appletree Capital as indicated below:
http://www.zoominfo.com/Search/PersonDetail.aspx?PersonID=-8…

David Crais is the President of Couhig Partners LLP as indicated below:
http://www.couhigpartners.com/default.asp?ID=2

From reading his biography in full (I recommend all to go read), I see that he has many connections ranging from Hewlard Packard to participating in IPOs to serving in a senior management position with CSA on the AMEX market.

David Crais was a Strategic Account Manager for Abbott-Point of Care as indicated below:
http://www.abbottpointofcare.com/istat/

The most important piece in my opinion is the news released on the company below with paying particular attention to the receipt of FDA approval:
http://www.abbottpointofcare.com/istat/www/press/pr.htm

I think a company that has FDA approval is looking to go public ASAP. To me, this is big.

v/r
Sterling

[oski]

NEWS
Winsted Holdings and Appletree BDC Begin Share Buyback Program and Issue Clarification
Jul 25, 2007 10:18:00 AM
Copyright Business Wire 2007

NORTHFIELD, Ill.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--

Winsted Holdings, Inc. (Pink Sheets:WNSH) and Appletree BDC Inc. announce a share buyback program effective today.

President and CEO Francis Manzo stated, "In the interest of creating shareholder value, Winsted Holdings announces its first share buyback program. The company plans on buying back up to 360,000,000 shares in the open market, to be completed over the next year. However, it can be completed at any time during the effective period starting today. The repurchased shares will be retired from the outstanding to the company treasury."

Winsted reiterates that the company's former CEO Mark Ellis is no longer involved with the company, nor controls any shares, common, or preferred. Appletree now controls all preferred shares. Additionally, in keeping with the strategy of Winsted being a business incubator, the company plans no 504 registrations, or other dilutive capital raising programs. Also, no reverse splits are planned due to both managements direction for the company and the SEC's investigation of the former management's potential violation of Section 23 of the 1940 Act, in this regard.

Additionally, the company is currently working on becoming current with their quarterly and annual SEC filings. We will be uploading files to the Edgar system as soon as possible.

"Safe Harbor" Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:

This release includes forward-looking statements intended to qualify for the safe harbor from liability established by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements generally can be identified by phrases such as WNSH or its management "believes," "expects," "anticipates," "foresees," "forecasts," "estimates" or other words or phrases of similar import. Similarly, statements in this release that describe the Company's business strategy, outlook, objectives, plans, intentions or goals also are forward-looking statements. All such forward-looking statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in forward-looking statements.

Source: Winsted Holdings, Inc.

----------------------------------------------

Appletree Capital Ltd.
Northfield
IL
Francis P. Manzo III
President
847-441-1822
http://www.winstedholdings.com
[e-mail]

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.845.975 von oski am 25.07.07 16:22:19

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.846.008 von KANTER am 25.07.07 16:24:12

Von mir aus könntes so weitergehn

[KANTER]

NEWS!! Buyback PR - ALL COMMENTS !!!

First, Management is SMART SMART SMART !! (and True)

This is the kind of news that makes stocks go up. It is indeed a real buyback (not CEO getting a bonus) but a buyback because company feels it is undervalued.

I do have an MBA and an MA and this PR just says it all...
I do expect more better PR to come one...

Having this PR out First means two things !!

1) CEO is not lying - he is serious and thrustworthy - this PR confirms it

2) CEO is clever - The company wants to grow...and it is... before issuing PRs with actions, manangement wants to make sure they do a buyback so the positive inpact is felt by the company first and most !!

3) all companies coming together agree on their actions

4) Ellis i truely OUT OUT OUT

5) 8K might be coming soon! its official now..

6) the deal is definately done... buybacks happen ONLY when comapany is 100% sure future is bright....

7) --> ' However, it can be completed at any time during the effective period starting today. ' - this says it all to me !!
meaning = we are willing to buy it all at once = wont take longer then a year (just in case something happens)... Awesome...!!


8)---> "The repurchased shares will be retired from the outstanding to the company treasury." ---> best way to increase PPS and company value... simple Supply/Demand Economics (not Fibinacci, chart, MACD stuff anf frills).... AWESOME !!

9) --> ""former CEO Mark Ellis is no longer involved with the company, nor controls any shares, common, or preferred."" --> As Expected - confirmed and now documented... this means buyback will happen SOON !!! Awesome...

10) Legally Binding Statements:
a - the company plans no 504 registrations, or other dilutive capital raising programs

B - no reverse splits due to Ellis actions !!

since now publicly stated and SEC is involved - I rest assured these are True - you cannot like to SEC about intentions... !! NINE!!

Basicly I almost eliminated all tactics that companies usued stab back shareholders... I dont see any realistic ones here...


11) EDGAR:
"" the company is currently working on becoming current with their quarterly and annual SEC filings."
WOWWWWW !!!
http://www.secinfo.com/$/Search.asp
http://www.sec.gov/
Access all Files here.. !!
this filing might take a while, 3-4 weeks max for such a small company... but once in SEC... the PR will be the best one can get !!!

12) last 10 day volume justifies all this... today 140 million trades in 15 minutes !!! wow.. there are tons of other reasons... but have to go back to work...

My Background:
Yes I do have a Masters, and MBA from NYS, and member of International Finance Society, I m published in Academic Journals and did some good research on Investment Banking and Law etc etc.. altough not on pinkies - but real companies... I m a nerd... and have nothing to hide... And yes.. this company is true !!!


Now I can challange ANY Basher In Here...bring it on !!

Jim Cramer - BooYahh... this stock should beon Mad Money tonight if it wasn't a Pinkie...


===============

Winsted Holdings and Appletree BDC Begin Share Buyback Program and Issue Clarification
Wednesday July 25, 10:18 am ET

NORTHFIELD, Ill.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Winsted Holdings, Inc. (Pink Sheets:WNSH - News) and Appletree BDC Inc. announce a share buyback program effective today.

ADVERTISEMENT

President and CEO Francis Manzo stated, "In the interest of creating shareholder value, Winsted Holdings announces its first share buyback program. The company plans on buying back up to 360,000,000 shares in the open market, to be completed over the next year. However, it can be completed at any time during the effective period starting today. The repurchased shares will be retired from the outstanding to the company treasury."

Winsted reiterates that the company's former CEO Mark Ellis is no longer involved with the company, nor controls any shares, common, or preferred. Appletree now controls all preferred shares. Additionally, in keeping with the strategy of Winsted being a business incubator, the company plans no 504 registrations, or other dilutive capital raising programs. Also, no reverse splits are planned due to both managements direction for the company and the SEC's investigation of the former management's potential violation of Section 23 of the 1940 Act, in this regard.

Additionally, the company is currently working on becoming current with their quarterly and annual SEC filings. We will be uploading files to the Edgar system as soon as possible.

"Safe Harbor" Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:

This release includes forward-looking statements intended to qualify for the safe harbor from liability established by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements generally can be identified by phrases such as WNSH or its management "believes," "expects," "anticipates," "foresees," "forecasts," "estimates" or other words or phrases of similar import. Similarly, statements in this release that describe the Company's business strategy, outlook, objectives, plans, intentions or goals also are forward-looking statements. All such forward-looking statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in forward-looking statements.


Contact:

Appletree Capital Ltd., Northfield, IL
Francis P. Manzo III, President, 847-441-1822
http://www.winstedholdings.com
[e-mail]

Source: Winsted Holdings, Inc.

[KANTER]

Enorm wichtig ist auch folgendes Statement:



++++++Winsted reiterates that the company's former CEO Mark Ellis is no longer involved with the company, nor controls any shares, common, or preferred. Appletree now controls all preferred shares.+++++

RS und Diluter-Ellis ist vollkommen raus aus dem Geschäft,sprich auch keine Aktien mehr oder geschweige denn welche die er noch auf den Markt schmeißen könnte!!!!



Additionally, in keeping with the strategy of Winsted being a business incubator, the company plans no 504 registrations, or other dilutive capital raising programs. Also, no reverse splits are planned due to both managements direction for the company and the SEC's investigation of the former management's potential violation of Section 23 of the 1940 Act, in this regard.

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.846.951 von KANTER am 25.07.07 17:15:32

++++ Die Revers Split -Geschichten gehören ab sofort der Vregangenheit an!!!!!+++++




Komme mir also keiner............der kriegt sofort was auf die Mütze!!!

[oski]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.846.951 von KANTER am 25.07.07 17:15:32

ja genau und das rückkaufprogramm zeigt das der merger am laufen ist

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.847.012 von oski am 25.07.07 17:19:38

Ich denk auch hier kommt nach was Großes auf uns zu die nächsten ´Wochen und Monate!!!!

[KANTER]

Posted by: stervc
In reply to: max2205 who wrote msg# 17213 Date:7/26/2007 3:10:12 AM
Post #of 17322

Max2205, about your awesome point…

You are correct! We should focus on the market cap. With the OS being 3.62 billion shares, that makes WNSH a $36+ million stock at .01 per share.

If the closure of the $125 million takes place, then that theoretically makes WNSH a value of below:

$125,000,000 ÷ 3,620,241,722 (OS) = .034 per share

This is just based on using or considering the market capital analogy. This is also not including the added value from other deals, mergers, etc. with WNSH acting as an incubator. With the right PR of substance, this could easily stabilize over .01+ per share as I still believe that the inventory of shares for WNSH is still ZERO.
v/r
Sterling

[KANTER]

Posted by: Art2Gecko
In reply to: PJ671 who wrote msg# 17219 Date:7/25/2007 9:03:03 PM
Post #of 17323

remember this play isn't going to be about just one RM candidate... from what I've read it looks more along the lines of a business incubator giving us spinoff shares in new businesses that they take public.... many...


Its not about the value that one company will bring, but multiple companies, and spinoff/dividend shares in all these new companies. WNSH is just the holding company/incubator..

If there's any fundraising to be done, it will be done via the spinoff company's stock, not WNSH... WNSH OS will get smaller over time as they buy back....

[oski]

psssssssssst.....bald............

[oski]

the share shortage could be due to WNSH beginning the buyback perhaps. So far today the could have bought up to about 17.375MM shares.

[KANTER]

[Schnatzi]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.868.492 von KANTER am 26.07.07 22:53:50

Oh da hat aber einer mächtig zugelangt... Oder ist das schon ein Teil vom BuyBack?

[oski]

Expect a pr next week concerning Winsted Aquisitions I, Inc.
Spin off and divvy to shareholders.
They are looking for a new transfer agent too.
The T/A will not be gagged either!

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.883.413 von oski am 27.07.07 22:32:48

Wünsche allen Investierten ein tolles WE!!!


Gruß KANTER

[oski]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.883.523 von KANTER am 27.07.07 22:40:53

gleichfalls und nächste woche wirds spannend

[KANTER]

Sorry, ich bins nochmal,kann doch noch nich ganz "Wochenenden"


Hier ein Update zur Sharestructur,aufbauend auf dem Fillng von gestern Abend:



Posted by: Vagabond
In reply to: Josh Taylor who wrote msg# 18452 Date:7/28/2007 8:22:39 AM
Post #of 18514

1,194,679,768 is the highest the float possibly can be!

Most likely it is lower than that.

Here is the simple math to prove this.

O/S per SCHEDULE 14C dated 6/30/07 = 3,620,241,722

and from that same SCHEDULE 14C we know:

"...A majority of the voting power of the Company's outstanding common stock, which is held by Francis P. Manzo III (Controlling Shareholder) and has determined by exercising his super majority vote to have the Company file a Form N-54C and withdraw its election to be registered as a BDC...."

http://www.pinksheets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=53252…

Definition of super majority = 67% - 90%

This leaves a possible maximum of 33% of the O/S in the float.

33% of the O/S of 3,620,241,722 = 1,194,679,768 as the absolute possible maximum # of shares in the float.

This is now ill refutable! Of course it is likely lower than that, and in either case with the tightly held shares and the amount of trading done, their can be no doubt there is a significant NSS position in this stock.

If someone has already posted this, you have my apologizes, as I haven't read all of the posts yet.

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.894.386 von KANTER am 28.07.07 14:29:23

Wenn man jetzt vo einem höchstmöglichen OS von 1,194,679,768 ausgeht und ein Sharebuyback in Höhe von 360.000.000 erfolgen soll,hieße das im Endeffekt einen Float von ca.700.000.000 bis 800.000.000!

[oski]

NSH-Summary Posts for Starter DD...

WNSH-Filed SEC Form 8-K:

http://edgar.brand.edgar-online.com/fetchFilingFrameset.aspx…

http://biz.yahoo.com/e/070727/wnsh.pk8-k.html

http://knobias.10kwizard.com/filing.php?repo=tenk&ipage=5070…

WNSH-Filed SEC Form Schedule 14C:

http://edgar.brand.edgar-online.com/fetchFilingFrameset.aspx…

http://knobias.10kwizard.com/filing.php?repo=tenk&ipage=5070…

WNSH-No Reverse Split & Capital Restructuring Logic:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boARDS/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070725/20070725005708.html?.v=1

WNSH-Why No Dilution or Selling of Shares:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-Why Not Other Stocks:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-Probable Major Players Involvement:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-Float “No More Than” thoughts:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
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http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-Float=“No Less Than 67%” of OS thought:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-Problem/Naked Short Shares Rationale:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-An Outstanding “Possible” Scenario:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-Why Pay $2,000 for Controlling Interest Shell:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://www.ocregister.com/money/winsted-ellis-company-176871…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH .047 Share Valuation Logic:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH Market Capital Analysis:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-Status of $125 Million Deal:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH & The National Investment Banking Association (NIBA):

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2…
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2…

WNSH-Name, CUSIP, & Ticker Change Logic:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH Dividend/Spin-offs Example:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH as an Incubator:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-CEO Update PR:

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070717/20070717006039.html?.v=1

WNSH-Share Buyback PR:

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070725/20070725005708.html?.v=1

WNSH Share Buyback Explanation Posts:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-Graduates to an Investment from a Trade:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-Reverse Merger Thoughts:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-Reverse Merger Candidates:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-Current Reverse Merger/Examples:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-Byers as a Reverse Merger Candidate:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://www.byersfood.com/

WNSH-Summary from Shareholders:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boARDS/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-Picture of Building Location:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-Corporation Registration in Good Standing:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-a Most Solid Pink Sheet Stock:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-Don’t worry about news:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-Investor Base Already Established:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-Investors Acting as a TEAM:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-Added Exposure:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH CEO Updates:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-Why No CMKX Comparison:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-Filed SEC Form 8-K:

http://edgar.brand.edgar-online.com/fetchFilingFrameset.aspx…

http://biz.yahoo.com/e/070727/wnsh.pk8-k.html

http://knobias.10kwizard.com/filing.php?repo=tenk&ipage=5070…

WNSH-Filed SEC Form Schedule 14C:

http://edgar.brand.edgar-online.com/fetchFilingFrameset.aspx…

http://knobias.10kwizard.com/filing.php?repo=tenk&ipage=5070…

v/r
Sterling

[KANTER]

Nett gemeint oski,a´ber so nützt das Keinem was



NSH-Summary Posts for Starter DD...

WNSH-Filed SEC Form 8-K:

http://edgar.brand.edgar-online.com/fetchFilingFrameset.aspx…
http://biz.yahoo.com/e/070727/wnsh.pk8-k.html

http://knobias.10kwizard.com/filing.php?repo=tenk&ipage=5070…
WNSH-Filed SEC Form Schedule 14C:

http://edgar.brand.edgar-online.com/fetchFilingFrameset.aspx…

http://knobias.10kwizard.com/filing.php?repo=tenk&ipage=5070…

WNSH-No Reverse Split & Capital Restructuring Logic:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boARDS/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070725/20070725005708.html?.v=1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">http://investorshub.advfn.com/boARDS/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070725/20070725005708.html?.v=1

WNSH-Why No Dilution or Selling of Shares:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
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http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-Why Not Other Stocks:

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http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-Probable Major Players Involvement:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-Float “No More Than” thoughts:

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WNSH-Float=“No Less Than 67%” of OS thought:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-Problem/Naked Short Shares Rationale:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
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WNSH-An Outstanding “Possible” Scenario:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-Why Pay $2,000 for Controlling Interest Shell:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://www.ocregister.com/money/winsted-ellis-company-176871…
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http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://www.ocregister.com/money/winsted-ellis-company-176871…
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH .047 Share Valuation Logic:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH Market Capital Analysis:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH-Status of $125 Million Deal:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH & The National Investment Banking Association (NIBA):

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2…
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http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2…
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2…

WNSH-Name, CUSIP, & Ticker Change Logic:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
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WNSH Dividend/Spin-offs Example:

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http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…
WNSH as an Incubator:

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WNSH-CEO Update PR:

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070717/20070717006039.html?.v=1

WNSH-Share Buyback PR:

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070725/20070725005708.html?.v=1

WNSH Share Buyback Explanation Posts:

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WNSH-Graduates to an Investment from a Trade:

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WNSH-Reverse Merger Thoughts:

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WNSH-Reverse Merger Candidates:

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WNSH-Current Reverse Merger/Examples:

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WNSH-Byers as a Reverse Merger Candidate:

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WNSH-Summary from Shareholders:

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WNSH-Picture of Building Location:

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WNSH-a Most Solid Pink Sheet Stock:

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WNSH-Don’t worry about news:

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WNSH-Investor Base Already Established:

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WNSH-Investors Acting as a TEAM:

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WNSH-Added Exposure:

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WNSH CEO Updates:

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WNSH-Filed SEC Form 8-K:

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WNSH-Filed SEC Form Schedule 14C:

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v/r
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[oski]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.942.240 von KANTER am 30.07.07 20:36:37

danke
war zu faul

[sopor]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.942.963 von oski am 30.07.07 21:30:21

Hey oski, trifft man sich wieder?

Ich hoffe hier kommt nihct das gleiche Dilemma für mich wie bei Banyan.

Bin wohl hier auch wieder zu hoch rein.

Abe noch habe ich Hoffnung.

[oski]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.970.974 von sopor am 01.08.07 18:51:51

hallo sopor
bist zu 8 rein? ne denke ich nicht,lies dich durch den thread und dann wirst du begreifen was hier bald abgehen wird
die aktie des sommers 2007
nur meine meinung

[Arielle81]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.970.974 von sopor am 01.08.07 18:51:51

Glaube auch das es ein Fehlgriff war. Bald wieder 0,0001

[sopor]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.975.156 von oski am 01.08.07 23:33:35

Nee so hoch nun auch wieder nicht aber zu 0,0007. mein geld war ja bei Banyan gebundne und nach dem Niederschlag, wollte ich eigentlich nicht mehr in Pinks investieren.

Deshalb erst jetzt nach den mldungen und den informieren hier investiert. Hoffe es war nicht zu spät. Bin auch erstmal nur mit 1Mill. drin. Woei ich die Hälfte auch zu 0,0006 hätte bekommen können.

[sopor]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.977.782 von sopor am 02.08.07 06:07:19

Upps eins noch. Eines stört mich aus meiner Erfahrung bei bany.

Alle sagen man hat nen Boden gefnden (hier 0,0005-0,0006) und dann ging es doch tiefer. Also erstmal abwarten.

[KANTER]

Moin moin




Im Moment wird viel spekuliert was den tatsächlichen Float anbelangt,was natürlich auch von den sogenannten Bashern ausgenutzt wird um die Aktie madig zu machen
Ansonsten hat sich ander Story mit Appletree nichts geändert und es heißt abwarten!!


Gruß KANTER

[sopor]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 30.978.413 von KANTER am 02.08.07 08:47:28

Wow heute so ein Satz nach unten?

Sieht nicht gut aus, ich hoffe die Story ist wirklich ok, denn momentan scheinen die Basher ein besseres Blatt zu haben.

[oski]

Winsted Holdings Creates New Subsidiary, Announces First Spin-off
Aug 2, 2007 11:07:00 AM
Copyright Business Wire 2007

NORTHFIELD, Ill.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--

Winsted Holdings, Inc. (Pink Sheets:WNSH) Creates new subsidiary, announces spin-off shares.

President and CEO Francis Manzo announced the creation of subsidiary Winsted Acquisition I, Inc. as a Nevada corporation. The new subsidiary will acquire and initiate companies related to the food and beverage industry. As part of the corporate plan the Company intends to distribute shares of the new subsidiary to current shareholders. Shares distributed will be on a pro-rata basis under Rule 144. The Company intends to distribute shares in the subsidiary at a share ratio to be determined. The dividend date is yet to be determined. The Company will begin the necessary regulatory filings to begin the process of the spin-off.

Winsted Acquisition I, Inc. will be spun off from Winsted Holdings Corporation as a separate corporation and will file a 15 (2) 2-11 upon the spin-off in order to achieve trading status.

Winsted Acquisition I, Inc. intends to look immediately for acquisition candidates in the food, natural food and beverage markets.

"Safe Harbor" Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:

This release includes forward-looking statements intended to qualify for the safe harbor from liability established by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements generally can be identified by phrases such as WNSH or its management "believes," "expects," "anticipates," "foresees," "forecasts," "estimates" or other words or phrases of similar import. Similarly, statements in this release that describe the Company's business strategy, outlook, objectives, plans, intentions or goals also are forward-looking statements. All such forward-looking statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in forward-looking statements.

Source: Winsted Holdings, Inc.

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Appletree Capital Ltd.
Northfield
IL
Francis P. Manzo III
President
847-441-1822
http://www.winstedholdings.com/
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[oski]

With Today's News...

I will later share some thoughts that should help those who might not see just yet the significance behind the news. The news today confirmed that it's not a matter of "if" WNSH will make a significant move from this new base level, but "when" will WNSH make another significant move from this level.

I will go back to read some posts to make sure I'm not repeating what was already discussed by shareholders, but I think that there is much that should be "seriously" considered from that PR. IMHO

The news today was very very solid! IMHO

v/r
Sterling

[KANTER]

Moin moin



Auf eine grüne Woche!!!!




Werde heute zu 3 nochmal nachlegen,wenn ich denn welche bekommen sollte

[Arielle81]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.048.373 von KANTER am 06.08.07 11:35:40

Bekommst du, da mach ich mir keine Sorgen. Am besten gibst du direkt 0,0002 ein, wir wollen doch nicht zuviel bezahlen gelle?

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.048.826 von Arielle81 am 06.08.07 12:08:49

Dich hab ich förmlich gerochen Arielle!!




Ich geb zu der Kurs lässt dich momentan im Vorteil sehen,allerdings ändert sich das diese Woche noch,da bin ich mir ganz sicher!


Meldest du dich dann auch wenn wir bei Kursen um die 0,005 stehen???

Wenn du das machst zeugt das von wahrer Größe!!!

Bin ja mal gespannt!!

[Arielle81]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.049.075 von KANTER am 06.08.07 12:29:05

Klar, melde ich mich dann auch noch. Trotzdem wird es nichts daran ändern, dass es sich hier um einen SCAM handelt und da sind wie wir ja wissen kurze Hypes immer möglich, aber selbst das scheint hier nicht möglich zu sein, da der Ruf schon ruiniert ist und keine Phantasie vorhanden ist.

Schau mal CGGP an. Da ist nichts ruiniert und alles möglich. Das sich die WO User auch immer an der Top10 bei IHUB orientieren
Die besteht nun mal aus hauptsächlich SCAMS und Dummpush-Aktien. Was glaubst warum WNSH auf Platz 1 ist??? Gibt es soviel Redebedarf?
Ein bisschen mehr Mühe sollte man sich schon bei der Suche geben. Hier wimmelt es ja nur von SCAMS. Für mich ist die Top10 ein Grund die Aktie nicht zu kaufen. Alleine schon die Art der Beiträge ist kein Vergleich zu anderen "normalen" Aktien.

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.049.811 von Arielle81 am 06.08.07 13:27:03

Bevor du andere Aktien permanent schlecht redest solltest du vorhher lesen und dich auch mal mit einem vermeintlichen Scam beschäftigen! Ich weiß,das klingt jetzt äußerst schwer für dich,da du dir die Mühe nie machst(in den seltensten Fällen)und dich immer nur dann meldest wenns Bergab geht,aber das kennen wir ja von dir!!!Weiterhin hab ich das Gefühl,das eine gewisse Schadenfreude dich permanent begleitet,wenn Kursverluste anderen ins Haus stehen!??? Ich kümmer mich auch nich um deinen Scams (was GSIEF mit Sicherheit auch istund geh dir nich auf den Sack!Also,entweder schreibst hier permamnent bei grünen und roten Kursen oder du lässt es!!

PS: ich hab WNSH/Appletree nich erst seit es auf Platz 1 bei Ihub steht sondern schon seit 0,0001


Aber wir lesen uns wieder und wenn ich dir den Kurs dann permanent per BM aufs Auge drücke!!!



Kein weiterer Kommentar dazu Arielle!!!!

[Arielle81]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.050.511 von KANTER am 06.08.07 14:25:16

Warum so gereizt? Bleib mal locker
Ich habe mich hier auch während eines Anstiegs gemeldet. Ich mache mir immer sehr viel Mühe, wenn mich eine Aktie interessiert. Hier hat es mir gereicht die Vergangenheit der Firma anzusehen und die letzten news (mehr gibt es ja auch nicht!!!) Als ob sich alles ändert nur weil ein CEO ausgetauscht wurde. Buyback, NSS, Buyout usw. sind die typischen News die nur SCAMS veröffentlichen, falls du es noch nicht bemerkt hast
Sorry, aber so naiv bin ich nicht, dass ich solche news glaube und viele andere ganz offensichtlich auch nicht oder ist es etwa die Firma die für den Kursfall verantworlich ist?
Und die letzten news waren doch auch wieder einmal äußerst scammy.
Verstehe ehrlich gesagt nicht was all die Vorwürfe sollen. Klar habe ich mir deinen SCAM angesehen. Viel gibt es allerdings nicht.

Zu GSIEF: Wow der hat aber gesessen
Erst informieren und wenn du auch nur ein Haar in der Suppe findest kannst du deine Meinung äußern. Komischerweise findet man bei GSIEF keins ganz im Gegensatz zu WNSH. "Aber mit Sicherheit"? Ich kann ja auch nichts dafür, dass du nur SCAMS kaufst. Wie sagt man so schön "Neid ist die größte Anerkennung die es gibt", denn als nichts anderes als Frustration und Neid kann man deine persönlichen Worte interpretieren.

Und Schadenfreude habe ich nicht. Nur weil du so jemand bist musst du mir nichts derartiges unterstellen. Du kennst mich nicht, also würde ich mal vorsichtig sein wie ich auf ein sachliches Posting reagiere. Das manche Leute nie sachlich bleiben können und eine Kritik an einer Aktie direkt als persönlichen Angriff werten ist wirklich schade.

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.050.891 von Arielle81 am 06.08.07 15:00:01

"..Hier hat es mir gereicht die Vergangenheit der Firma anzusehen und die letzten news (mehr gibt es ja auch nicht!!!).."


Du willst es nich verstehn,oder?????


Immer wieder und immer wieder kommst du mit der Vergangenheit,dabei weißt du selber ganz genau(ich geh mal davon aus,das du DAS wenigstens bis dato mitbekommen hast!!??????????)das Ellis RAUS ist und MANZO/APPLETREE hier das Sagen haben!!?


Wie oft bitte noch?????????????????????


Und zu den letzten News,ja bitteschön WAS erwartest du denn mehr für den Moment?? Lass uns doch sehn,was in der Realität tatsächlich umgesetzt wird!


Und zu der Sache mit der <Schadenfreude,dann schau mal nach ob ICH jemals oder iregndwo und vor allem WO ICH NICH SELBER INVESTIERT BIN meinen Kommentar sowohl in negativer als auch positiver Hinsicht abgegeben habe????


PS: Ich gönne dir deinen Erfolg an der Börse,aber du schreibst leider nur in negativer Form und Worten und verdrehst Fakten und machst das Invest madig(du versuchst es jedenfalls!)



So süße,jetzt wieder zurück zum Thema, hier gehts nich um uns sondern um WNSH / APPLETREE!!


Dir noch einen schönen tach!!

[oski]

ruhe vor dem zweiten sturm,ich bin bereit

[KANTER]

Hier noch einmal die "lächerlichen Fakten" zum Scam WNSH



1. Ellis ist raus.

2. 8K Filing ist raus

3. am selben Tag kam das DEF 14C Filing

4. Aktienrückkaufprogramm bekanntgegeben

5. 1. Aquise steht bevor (The new subsidiary will acquire and initiate companies related to the food and beverage industry)

.....und das innerhalb der letzten 3 Wochen!







Ich möchte nochmal daraufhinweisen,das es sich um keinen BLUECHIP handelt,also Vorsicht beim Investieren!

[oski]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.056.019 von KANTER am 06.08.07 20:29:54

[Arielle81]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.052.693 von KANTER am 06.08.07 17:05:02

Und wann verstehst du es endlich, dass es keinen Unterschied macht. Seriöse Leuten geben sich nicht mit Drecksbuden ab. So einfach ist das.

Ich habe hier angefangen zu posten, weil die Vergangenheit nun mal ein Thema ist solange sich die neuen Leute nicht bewiesen haben und diese ganzen Reverse Split wurden hier ja noch nicht einmal zu Beginn thematisiert. Ich hasse Pushthreads, daher habe ich hier meine Meinung geäußert. Und wann verstehst du endlich, dass ein Diskussionsboard aus unterschiedlichen Meinungen besteht? Ich werde auch weiter hier und in anderen threads die ich verfolge meine Meinung äußern.
Man muss auch nicht investiert sein um sich eine Meinung zu bilden oder um einen Beitrag in einem thread zu verfassen.

Verstanden???

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.058.080 von Arielle81 am 06.08.07 23:20:21

[oski]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.058.080 von Arielle81 am 06.08.07 23:20:21

das R/S ist im jetzigen zeitpunkt kein thema und die vergangenheit ist passe

[KANTER]

Moin moin


Ein sehr guter Beitrag von Stervc in Bezug auf den bevorstehenden Spin Off.

Posted by: stervc
In reply to: None Date:8/7/2007 3:50:17 AM
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WNSH**Parallel Valuation…

Parallel Valuation (PV) is when a certain valuation is generated in a company’s shares through the issuing of a spin-off of shares in another existing stock that is at a certain price of trading or that will eventually trade at a certain price or value.
The WNSH spin-off through Parallel Valuation is three-sided as a minimum for gains to its shareholders’ positions;

1 - Gains exist from the increase of valuation in the Parent Stock (WNSH) which should cause an increase in price as valuation is realized.
2 - Gains exist from the increase of valuation in the Incubator Stock (Winsted Acquisition I, Inc.) which should cause an increase in price as valuation is realized.
3 - Gains exist from the existing “direct correlation” from the share dissemination between the Parent Stock (WNSH) and the Incubator Stock (Winsted Acquisition I, Inc.) as either increases in price or valuation.

Most other stocks issuing a spin-off are usually unlike WNSH because they are one-sided for gains because they issue spin-off shares that are usually either not trading or restricted with no real valuation or have a distribution ratio of .000000??? a share for every “1” share owned of the Parent Stock. I believe WNSH to be very different from those companies of the norm. Since the Outstanding Shares (OS) are already known, we can easily speculate that we will not have a distribution even close to the example I just mentioned in this same paragraph. It should be much better. IMHO

When a company issues a spin-off in a stock that is not trading or restricted with no real valuation or with a very high distribution ratio, then people see those stocks as being “nothing” except a shell and that would cause a person to wonder why would anyone want to buy “nothing” to get some shares of “nothing” in return. From the thoughts I shared above you can somewhat see how I’m about to explain how this first spin-off of shares in Winsted Acquisition I, Inc. will potentially be of a huge benefit to WNSH shareholders.

Parallel Valuation (PV) are some thoughts I have shared in a few posts with other stocks over the years as speculation that I thought I would give a “hint” towards what a company could do to potentially force any possible existing naked short, add value to its spin-off/dividend value, and add value to its stock. Each of those stocks in the past had their own unique situation as to how Parallel Valuation should be considered as does WNSH.

Even though Winsted Acquisition I, Inc. will trade as a subsidiary under WNSH, both will cause a direct correlation in valuation even past the date of record for the spin-off. This is the beauty of this dissemination of our Winsted Acquisition I, Inc. shares as a spin-off and why WNSH will be the super majority of all of our spin-offs too.

Now let’s assess a Fundamental Valuation to WNSH and Winsted Acquisition I, Inc. from the “known” and “unknowns” of WNSH. Before reading any further, understand that since we don’t have certain facts, we have no choice except to speculate to form some kind of logical deduction to what is going on.

What we do know about WNSH is one of the most important things to know; the Outstanding Shares (OS) for WNSH are 3,620,241,722 shares. The OS will be the baseline of share distribution for any spin-off to WNSH shareholders. The OS for Winsted Acquisition I, Inc. will be in my opinion, since it was PR-ed to be going to the OTCBB by filing a Form 211, no more than 10% of the current WNSH OS. This means that the OS for Winsted Acquisition I, Inc. would be as a worse case scenario as indicated below:

3,620,241,722 shares x .10 = 362,024,172 Shares as the Potential OS for Winsted Acquisitions I, Inc.

Within the PR below, it was mentioned that WNSH will be giving us a spin-off of shares in Winsted Acquisitions I, Inc. within the food and beverage industry. As it reads...
…The new subsidiary will acquire and initiate companies related to the food and beverage industry.
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070802/20070802005745.html?.v=1

Now before reading any further, please read the post below to understand why I think there is a good chance that the company is Byers Food Company (or one of a higher caliber) and why I believe the company to be a multi-million dollar company that is profitable with clearing “at least” $2 million in Profits:
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Winsted Acquisition I, Inc. Conservative & Speculative Variables:
Revenues – Expenses = Earnings/Profits
Earnings/Profits ÷ OS = Earnings Per Share (EPS)
EPS x P/E Ratio = Share Price for Winsted Acquisition I, Inc.

OS = 362,024,172 shares (or less)
Profits (Anticipated) = $2,000,000
P/E Ratio for Sector = 22.62

If Byers or the intended company merge into Winsted Acquisition I, Inc., then as of 5 Aug 07, the indicated Sector has a PE Ratio of 22.62 derived from the average of the indicated Industry related to the WNSH spin-off candidate as indicated in the link below (It varies slightly daily):
http://biz.yahoo.com/p/3conameu.html

Now we can derive…
$2,000,000 ÷ 362,024,172 shares = 0.0055 EPS of Winsted Acquisition I, Inc.
.0055 (EPS) x 22.62 (P/E Ratio) = .124 Per Share Value in Winsted Acquisition I, Inc.

Now let’s bring in some discussion on Parallel Valuation to determine what a fair value is for WNSH and Winsted Acquisition I, Inc. in direct correlation to one another.

The WNSH and Winsted Acquisition I, Inc. Possible Distribution Ratio:
WNSH OS = 3,620,241,722 Shares
Winsted Acquisition I, Inc. OS = 362,024,172 Shares
3,620,241,722 Shares ÷ 362,024,172 Shares = 10 Shares

This would reflect that for every 10 shares of the Parent Stock (WNSH) that is bought, you will get 1 share of the Incubator Stock (Winsted Acquisition I, Inc.) placed into your brokerage account. This distribution ratio above means that if you buy 10,000,000 shares of WNSH at .0004 per share, you will pay $4,000 for your total position in WNSH. In return, given from the example flow within this post, you would get the following shares “for free” in Winsted Acquisition I, Inc. trading on the OTCBB at a value of .124 per share as indicated below:

** 10,000,000 ÷ 10 = 1,000,000 Shares in Winsted Acquisition I, Inc. trading at .124 per share
** 1,000,000 x .124 = $124,000

The above scenario would mean that if you spent $4,000 for your 10 million shares investment into WNSH, you would be granted in return some spin-off shares in an OTCBB company valued at $124,000 in total value. Plus you keep your 10 million shares of WNSH that would probably appreciate to be worth much more than the $4,000 you paid for your initial investment.

This would mean that the Equilibrium Price (EP) for breaking even in knowing where to stop buying WNSH to equal a given value from its Winsted Acquisition I, Inc. spin-off considering more is confirmed to justify these thoughts above would be:

$4,000 ÷ $124,000 = .032 Per Share for WNSH Equilibrium Price (EP)

The above calculation to derive that WNSH equilibrium share value of at least .032 per share is only one of the three-sided ways for obtaining valuation that will be granted towards its shareholders in WNSH if the price of either stock goes up in the same proportion.

Another side is to consider the value of one versus the other as the prices of them both “do not” go up proportionally. This means that one would drag the other up in value as its price goes up in value. The opposite could happen with the price going down, but not if the valuation is placed into the spin-off. To quickly explain this without giving another example, understand that as the price of either WNSH or Winsted Acquisition I, Inc, goes up, so does the value in the other. This is the explanation of the enhanced valuation in your WNSH position of shares and your Winsted Acquisition I, Inc. spin-off position of shares.

The third-side of considering valuation comes from WNSH owning 67% and any of the realized profitability will be realized on the WNSH Financials (Balance Sheets, Income Statements, 10Q/Ks, SB2s, 8-Ks, 14Cs, etc.). With the WNSH CEO having a super majority vote as recently filed in their Schedule 14C within the SEC, this means that he has at least 67% of the OS as I consider this to be “fact” since it was filed with the SEC. Reference link below concerning the 67% minimum super majority vote:
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/supermajority.asp

Consider my apple example below which should help to eliminate the importance of the recent confusion/panic over the float. The OS includes the issued and outstanding shares. This means that the OS includes the restricted and float shares.

Example: Imagine the “Red Apples” being the “Restricted” shares and the “Green Apples” being the “Float” shares. It doesn’t matter whether or not there are more “Red Apples” or “Green Apples” because WNSH has the controlling interest and the supermajority vote for “ALL OF THE APPLES!” This means that WNSH has at least a 67% control of “ALL” the apples. This means that they have control of holding these apples to make sure they are out of circulation to not be sold into the market.

No matter how you want to see the Apples in being “Red Apples” or “Green Apples” for numbers wise, it doesn’t matter because we know that “ALL the Apples” total 3,620,241,722 Apples as filed with the SEC as a fact and are held in the same barrel for accountability. Again, now really understand that no matter how you view it, 67% of “ALL Apples” have been taken out of circulation. They still cannot be purchased no matter if you view them as “Red” or “Green” Apples because they are in close hold in the same barrel due to the mentioning of the CEO having the “super majority vote” for WNSH. This means that the WNSH CEO has a minimum…

3,620,241,722 x .67 = 2,425,561,953 Minimum Shares Owned by WNSH/CEO to have the Super Majority Vote

3,620,241,722 - 2,425,561,953 = 1,194,679,869 Shares Remaining in Float for the Public to Buy before Buyback

1,194,679,869 – 360,000,000 = 834,679,869 Shares Remaining in Float for the Public to Buy after the Buyback

I’m not sure if there is a “problem shares” or “naked short shares” position in WNSH. However, given the volume history of shares traded in WNSH over the past few months, I think the inventory of the remaining 834,679,869 WNSH shares in the Float is either “zero” or so close to “zero” that it might as well be considered as being naked shorted because any kind of news and/or substantial volume should graduate WNSH from these current levels of trading very soon and for good.

The key to the spin-off shares to be placed into our accounts will be that they will be done so by the company’s Transfer Agent (TA) through some coordination with the Depository Trust Company (DTC) which will be very important for matching/accounting for legit shares of WNSH to force a covering “IF” there are any naked shorted shares that exist. At least, upon any covering, at such point WNSH should then be traded fairly based upon actual supply versus demand principles given its true delivered valuation.

This could also justify where some of the selling of shares had come from ie hedge fund from “somebody” we might all know. Selling from a hedge fund could be contributing towards any covering for now which would make for a better run later that could be known and “somewhat orchestrated” for happening to keep certain entities from being revealed and getting further in trouble. This at least flushes them out for the future as I see and call the situation as… “Weathering the storm!”

This is needed for allowance of WNSH and its spin-offs to be traded fairly in the future. Heck, the “new” WNSH CEO is smarter than I thought. Kudos to him! Like I mentioned earlier, the “old” WNSH CEO was not your role model CEO, but I still think that we all should thank him for a few reasons that many could probably guess why as we would not have ever had the opportunity to be WNSH investors at these levels if he had done things as the likes of your premier CEO because of how high WNSH would had already been probably trading. I can’t believe how my mindset has changed since the days of me only doing mutual funds and major market stocks. Heck, now it’s hard for me to even look at buying a stock that is trading over a penny (LOL)!

These spin-off scenarios also make for the issuance of any cash dividends to have more of a major impact through the issuing of them through the spin-off stock. To some people, I’m sure this post is long enough so I will save those thoughts for later (LOL) as I am still not done yet (LOL). When I explain these thoughts, I will explain how such could be such an awesome thing as it would probably justify having a lower OS for that particular spin-off. Such could be the case with this spin-off as we will see when the OS is announced in the spin-off company.

Also, what people are not seeing is that the distribution of any spin-off will be predicated on the OS and not the float alone. The preferred shares are not part of the OS. They are not used for spin-off distribution or to assess any kind of legitimate or speculative Fundamental Valuation. Only the OS is used as the key denominator for determining such. With the share structure, it needs to be understood in two forms; shares for the “voting power” which includes the preferred shares and shares that are “issued and outstanding” (the OS) which does not include the preferred shares.

This means that with this current spin-off and any of the future spin-offs, WNSH will be the majority shareholder with the super majority vote maintaining a controlling interest. This is because with WNSH owning at least 67% of the OS, they will also own at least 67% of any spin-off. This means that WNSH will have a vested interest in the success and value of each of our spin-offs because as our spin-offs grow in price and valuation, so does their super majority holdings in WNSH which in turn causes them to drag us along with their success by giving us the spin-offs. There is a three-fold advantage for gains for us all. This concept forces the company to always lookout for us/their shareholders by never forgetting about us while growing the company as we see that many other stocks do within the market as an unwanted behavior.

The naming of any other legitimate spin-off would further enhance valuation for WNSH and its shareholders by the instilled valuation. Also take into account the closing of its $125 million Venture Capital deal and I am beginning to fully understand why some see WNSH potentially stabilizing in the pennies. With the release of a little more substance, I think WNSH might be on its way for good this time. Personally, I have seen enough to believe, but I’m easy.

Some have wondered… Why would the Incubator Stock (Winsted Holdings I, Inc.) choose to use WNSH as a Parent stock? Why choose WNSH and not some other OTCBB shell that would have cost a few hundred thousand dollars or so? I guess the answer would be to ponder on this question for a logical answer… Would you rather pay a few hundred thousand dollars for a legitimate “OTCBB” shell to trade on the OTCBB or would you rather want to pay little of nothing to have WNSH act as your Parent Stock to accept you as one of their Incubator Stocks to assist you with obtaining the major requirements to IPO or trade on the OTCBB or higher exchanges?

Now with this spin-off, if this was going to be a spin-off in a stock that is not trading…
then people would probably see WNSH as being “nothing” except a shell and wonder… Why would anyone want to buy “nothing” to get some shares of “nothing” in return? This spin-off confirms WNSH’s existence as a Chicago based merchant banking and venture capital group doing exactly what they said they would be doing in their mission description within the link below:
http://www.winstedholdings.com/

WNSH is stating that they will be giving us a spin-off in a stock that will be trading on at least the OTCBB which is what is meant when stated in their recent PR below about filing a Form 211 with the NASD for our spin-off, Winsted Holdings I, Inc. to be trading. WNSH definitely already has a Market Maker (MM) on their TEAM, which is a requirement for the spin-off to trade on the OTCBB as evident by the filing of the Form 211 with the SEC.
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070802/20070802005745.html?.v=1

Going through the IPO route to trade on a major market is very expensive. These costs and expenses would now be absorbed into the costs and expenses of the Parent Stock. This helps the spin-offs to be even more profitable due to being able to hide key Expenses within the Parent Stock’s financials to reflect a profit for the Incubator Stock’s SEC Form 10Q/K reports. This relationship for support is what is key between the Parent Stock and the Incubator Stock.

There are rules that must be met in order to trade on the OTCBB and as a fully reporting company under the SEC such as having a minimum of 40 stockholders of record holding at least 100 shares each and having a Market Maker (MM) submit a 15c2-11 (Form 211) application to NASD.
http://www.gopublicusa.com/whatis15c211.html

Some also wonder… Why would WNSH be so gracious to give us such great spin-offs? Well, it’s for a few reasons? First, we help them to cover some requirements to trade the spin-off on the OTCBB by bringing to the table much more than 40 stockholders of record holding at least 100 shares. Second, the spin-off company will have increased and enhanced investor interest with eyes on the stock. That’s what’s very important too.

Consider this explanation of the true importance about just getting eyes on your stock. Consider each person in this example as a constant variable for representation of only one person per position of ownership in WNSH for a simple understanding. Imagine that you have the best stock in the world, but you go into a room to only tell one person about this stock. The potential for shares being bought would only be so much because the buying that could come from your average one person would be very minimal before the buying would become extinguished.

Now imagine going into a room full of thousands of people to tell all of them about your stock you believe to be the greatest stock in the world. The potential for shares being bought would be greatly multiplied by the amount of the thousands of people and would spread much greater than if it was only one person who knew about your stock. Now take the “Power of One” logic and multiply that logic by thousands and I hope you see my point as to why this is a very ingenious way to market your stocks through incubation.

That spin-off PR release by WNSH was very positive and solid. It confirmed my thoughts I posted above as I think it was another good CEO/WNSH update as I choose to believe it’s better to be officially informed about anything the company is doing regardless to how premature they might be in its phase of execution. People buy stocks not just on valuation alone, but on potential too. That PR confirmed more than what ever previously existed in WNSH from my due diligence.

Something to look for is that since the valuation can come three-sided, if the price of our spin-off begins trading at any price above the .124 logic I posted above then consider the enhanced value into WNSH that would be immediately instilled. I will reserve these thoughts until we get or see the official price of the spin-off once it begins trading.

I hope I explained those above numbers/figures so that everyone understands the potential in what we have here with WNSH and why it’s a little different than your other stocks that does the spin-off thing. But even if you think I was far from being conservative, take those derived numbers from the same examples I used above and cut those numbers in half for me only being half right, or even consider me being only a tenth correct of what I posted above and see where WNSH would still be valued through logical deduction. These are only my opinions to explain the recent news and what potential I see still here in WNSH.

Please understand that these thoughts I have shared are not thoughts to “pump” WNSH as I hope one could see why I “believe” in WNSH. I am not trying to persuade you, but rather I am trying to inform you as to how I see things from a “glass half full” versus a “glass half empty” viewpoint with WNSH and its spin-offs.

Any company that have been submitting recent paperwork with the SEC, publicly states that they are not doing a reverse split, not dumping shares, don’t need to dump shares to raise capital, will “not” be doing any 504 registrations or any other dilutive capital raising programs are some huge considerations that must not be ignored. I think eventually, the market will realize the potential in WNSH and it will trade as such. I think it’s just a matter of time for the market to realize the potential here with WNSH. Here’s to hoping that the new WNSH management continues to be successful with their missions.

v/r
Sterling

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.060.737 von KANTER am 07.08.07 10:21:32

Pinksheets hat jetzt den offiziellen OS und Float :



Estimated Market Cap
1,448,096.689 as of Aug 6, 2007
Outstanding Shares
3,620,241,722 as of Jul 31, 2007
Float
3,620,241,268 as of Jul 31, 2007


Ellis hat sich also kurz vor seinem Ende nochmal ordentlich ins Zeug geschmissen

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.060.737 von KANTER am 07.08.07 10:21:32

Spin-off

Ein Spin-off entsteht, wenn sich ein Unternehmen von Geschäftsfeldern, die nicht mehr zum Kerngeschäft zählen, trennt. Typische Spin-offs sind Abspaltungen eines Konzerns im Bereich Forschung und Entwicklung. Die rechtlich selbständigen Spin-offs werden meistens unter dem Dach einer Holding zusammengeführt. Dennoch haben sie einen eigenständigen Zugang zum Kapitalmarkt - und davon profitiert das Mutterunternehmen. Wenn die Spin-offs an die Börse gehen, kann der Mutterkonzern die Aktien der börsennotierten Tochter zum einen als Akquisitionswährung einsetzen. Zum anderen steigt der Wert des gesamten Konzerns, da es sich bei den Abspaltungen meist um Wachstumssparten handelt, die von den Anlegern als selbständige Gesellschaften oftmals höher bewertet werden, als wenn sie nur Teil eines Großunternehmens sind

[oski]

Perihelion Global Signs Agreement to Manage and Acquire FCC-Licensed TV Station Channel 25 in Southern Alabama
Aug 6, 2007 4:55:00 PM

SANTA ROSA BEACH, FL and ANDALUSIA, AL -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 08/06/07 -- Perihelion Global (PINKSHEETS: PHGI), a development company with interests in natural resources, alternative energies, and advanced communications, today announced that the company has signed an agreement to manage and acquire TV-25 in South Alabama. TV-25 is a fully operational, LP TV Station on Channel 25, currently serving Southern Alabama and the Northwest Florida Panhandle.

TV-25 is presently available over the air and is also carried by 5 cable companies. In addition, TV-25 has been granted approval by the FCC to increase its licensed broadcast power from 20,000 watts to the FCC maximum 150,000 watts. Perihelion plans to upgrade TV-25 for High-Definition (HD-TV) content in the future, increasing its market value, reach, and influence of content.

This agreement, along with the FCC-licensed broadcast radio stations previously acquired by Perihelion, will begin to form the cornerstone to the company's communications division. Under the agreement, Perihelion Global will take over the management and programming of the TV-25 from Silver Wings Broadcasting, Inc., as of August 1, 2007. Perihelion Global will file a formal application with the FCC to transfer ownership of the station in the coming months. Shareholders will be apprised when the FCC license transfer is completed.

Perihelion Global Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer John H. Beebe stated, "We're happy to have reached an agreement for TV-25 with Silver Wings Broadcasting, and we believe there is tremendous value in the broadcasting space. TV-25 provides us the opportunity to create new and exciting broadcast content, advertising opportunities, and broader revenue streams for Perihelion and its shareholders. We encourage residents in and around the Southern Alabama and Northwest Florida area to join in the development of the new TV-25 by sharing their thoughts and ideas about the programming and content."

About Perihelion Global:

Perihelion Global focuses on the acquisition, development and management of technologies, strategic commodity reserves and assets in the energy, natural resource and communications markets. Perihelion's management team specializes in providing solutions for the strategic challenges of the 21st Century. We lead with decades of experience in environments that are mission critical in today's global marketplace: Technology, Energy and Communications.

Website: http://www.perihelionglobal.com

Caution Regarding Forward-Looking Statements

This press release contains historical information as well as forward-looking statements that are based upon our estimates and anticipation of future events that are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to vary materially from the expected results described in the forward-looking statements. The words "anticipate," "believe," "estimate," "expect," "hopeful," "intend," "may," "optimistic," "preliminary," "project," "should," "will," and similar expressions are intended to identify these forward-looking statements. There are numerous important factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements. Thus, sentences and phrases that we use to convey our view of future events and trends are expressly designated as Forward-Looking Statements as are sections of this news release clearly identified as giving our outlook on future business.

These forward-looking statements are subject to significant risks, assumptions and uncertainties, including, among other things, the following important factors that could affect the actual outcome of future events:

-- General economic conditions, either nationally or in our market area,
that are worse than expected;

-- regulatory and legislative actions or decisions that adversely affect
our business plans or operations;

-- price competition;

-- inflation and changes in the securities markets that adversely affect
the fair value of our operations; and

-- changes in our organization, compensation and benefit plans.


We wish to caution readers not to place undue reliance on any such forward-looking statements, which speak only as of the date made, and wish to advise readers that the factors listed above could affect our financial performance and could cause actual results for future periods to differ materially from any opinions or statements expressed with respect to future periods in any current statements. We do not undertake and specifically decline any obligation to publicly release the result of any revisions that may be made to any forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances after the date of such statements or to reflect the occurrence of anticipated or unanticipated events.

Contact:
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Perihelion Global
866-748-7610 (Toll Free) x 719
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[oski]

falscher thread

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.068.731 von oski am 07.08.07 19:10:51

[KANTER]

Posted by: stervc
In reply to: sexyzsue who wrote msg# 23831 Date:8/11/2007 7:30:48 PM
Post #of 23860

Sexyzsue, with those “Major Market” thoughts…

Personally, I think this would be the best time to release any kind of major news. Here’s why…

Remember, see the glass as “half full” and not “half empty” especially for this WNSH situation. If the market is going down or is in a decline stage, it is because of “major investors” selling “major stocks” within the “major markets” to make the prices in all of the “major markets” have a “major decline” as such.

This means that all of these “major players” have reloaded their investment portfolios with cash looking for the next undervalued stock proven to them to be a sound investment to where nice and steady low risk growth could transpire. This is why WNSH is probably the best stock out here in penny stock land because of being debt free, profitable, and how they raise money to be in such position. Again, really read in greater detail these posts below for a better understanding:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

Heck, they raise capital through other means as I explained earlier instead of selling shares to do so like you average stock within the market. That means that their style of securing capital will always reside during the “ups” and “downs” of the market. WNSH is really a complicated stock for a reason to your average investor.

Still, on the contrary, those major players can be looking for a place to INVEST some major funds in an upward market, but when it’s, down, there is a better chance actually for more major players to provide more support for investing in your stock because they will have more money looking for something “more better” than before that brings better opportunity in ratio to gains per thousands or millions of dollars invested.

Your thoughts make for a very interesting conversation so let’s continue. There’s still much more that needs to be understood to really know the mechanics of how and why the major markets might have fundamentally acted as they did to cause the selling of shares. I will only speak now on a “known” piece of the influence for those major market stocks.

The entire reason why a penny stock trades is to achieve a “should be” goal of graduating to the next level. A real penny stock “should” be concerned about the growth of its company to bring along the growth of the value of stock to its shareholders.

With that said, a penny stock should want to continue its growth in phases to eventually reach support in its product, business, or service that it has to offer to the public to trade consistently on the major markets; DOW, NASDAQ, NYSE, AMEX, etc.

I kind of see these levels of graduation as if a kid graduating from Elementary School, to Middle School, then on to High School, then on to graduating from College. The equivalent graduation levels for a pink sheet stock (theoretically) would be graduating from the pink sheets, to the OTCBB, then on to the Major Markets.

Now with this in mind, we all have to remove the blinders and focus on what makes those "major market" stocks tick for them to be valued at a certain price per share. There are other variables that could be used to determine why a stock’s price is where it’s at such as PRs, potential, buyouts, rumors, etc. However, there are Fundamental Principles that have always existed as the baseline for assessing such valuation and why a stock’s price is consistently where it’s at… Earnings!

Bottom line, is the stock “making more money” than it is “costing” them to produce their product, business, or service for the public? Now, the price is usually at certain levels generally because of the amount of profitability existing between the “Revenues” minus the “Expenses.” This is what equates to the “Earnings” of a stock.

It is thought that the entire market of stocks shifts from the upward and downward price movements of the major market stocks. In particular, a certain select few of these major markets stocks are known to have the most impact for the growth of the market and seeing where that growth is consistently going over the short, mid, and long terms; Dow 30, NASDAQ 100, etc. This is generally where the growth rate for that Industry and that Sector of stocks are better yet derived by and known as the Price to Earnings (P/E) Ratio.

For determining Fundamental Valuation, the “major market stocks” use key variables such as the Price to Earnings (P/E) Ratio, the Earnings Per Share (EPS), the Market Capital (MC) Analysis, etc. This is why I have my rationale for determining a stock’s potential valuation to be predicated upon certain major market considerations for determining a potential share price. I know it’s different in the penny stock world, but the goal of a penny stock (if it is for real) should be to reach a point to where their valuation can be fundamentally assessed as the likes of those major market stocks. This is how you separate those select few that actually make it out of the penny stock world.

Below are some examples I used to show you how I logically determine the potential Fundamental Valuations in WNSH:

WNSH Example using**P/E Ratio:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH Example using**Revenues –Expenses = Earnings:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH Example using**Market Capital Analysis:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

Now, with what we have discuss, do you want me to show you how logically and very easy it should be for one to understand how WNSH is worth over .05 per share if they close the deal for $125 million in which I heard that the deal is nearly completed? I can walk you through it step by step instead of making one long post. We don’t have to move forward until you logically get each level. It’s been right in front of all of our faces all along!

v/r
Sterling

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.127.674 von KANTER am 12.08.07 01:43:50

Posted by: stervc
In reply to: Art2Gecko who wrote msg# 7469 Date:7/14/2007 12:10:41 AM
Post #of 23860

Art2Gecko & Soupoftheday, about that info...

The info with Zhemian Ventures is not old. I spoke to the founder of Zhemian Ventures, Martin Allen Brown, who is responsible for raising the $125 million through Institutions. He informed me that they are nearly done with raising the $125 million.
This is one of the beauties I like about WNSH/Appletree Capital's new business direction. They won't have to sell shares to raise capital to grow their company like your average stock. They raise capital through Institutional support by guaranteeing Institutions 25% or so on the millions they give them to invest in already profitable private companies.

In return, Revenues would be generated from that $125 million for the company through two primary sources; Management Fees and what is called "The Carry." This is what I explained in greater detail within the post below:
http://investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=21087…

The best way to see what Appletree Capital do is to see them as being like a mutual fund for the Institutions. They already have a huge clientele of Institutional support from when I verified through the National Investment Bankers Association (NIBA). They are members in good-standing with them. Appletree Capital is a very reputable Investment Banking company according to the NIBA.

I know that above post is a little long, but read that post in detail if you haven’t already when you get a chance. I had a very interesting conversation to discover a few things of concern that I tried to explain on a level to where even I could understand it.

v/r
Sterling

[oski]

für mich die aktie des jahres STRONG BUY
WNSH Exit Strategy…

Below are some thoughts I shared within my RB forum concerning exit strategies. I felt the need to post it over here because I was asked here and there. Also, whether it’s WNSH or any other stock, one day you will need to sell in order to realize gains so a plan should always be considered. I think that’s the reason most of us bought. I shared a few other thoughts that might be helpful to some just starting out with penny stocks from some of my experiences. Please note the $200 to $200,000 Transformation Process I posted a few years ago. It’s nothing new to many except maybe a discipline way to play with free shares.

These are only my thoughts in the post below to consider:

About an Exit Strategy for a Stock...
http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219…

Selling a stock is generally centered on two variables; time and price. I would simply caution against having tunnel vision with getting locked into one or the other to an extreme. If a stock hits a certain “price” at a certain “time” sooner than expected, then I would sell. Since over 90% of the penny stocks fail, the odds are against you and any logic for holding them. Treat them all like a POS unless they prove different or reveal significant reason to re-consider, but understand that it is rarely the case. Remember and know that the odds are against you.

If it takes a longer “time” to hit a certain “price” then make the decision to continue to hold or sell, but know that you might be holding “dead money” to where those funds could have been used elsewhere. If you have really done your DD and believe in the stock, then exercise patience, but expect some up and down swings from people who will always be trading a stock. Respect everyone’s exit strategy to hold as a “trade” or as an “investment” because the first time you bash a decision one way or the other could be the time where action proves you to look very foolish. You just never know for many unknown reasons the end result.

Please understand, I am not telling you to hold any stock without any intentions of selling. I m simply saying to be careful to not sell to early, especially on the first day of any run because there is always that chance you will regret it. A stock usually runs for 2.5 to 5 days before either stabilizing or fizzling out. Still those days are not finite as it could vary to be sooner or later. Still understand though that profits are profits. Unlike me, always remember to take profits (LOL).

Understand that what you see in stock ABCD at .01 per share to buy as an opportunity for profits to sell at .10 per share, you are hoping that the next person see that same opportunity for profits in stock ABCD to buy at .10 per share as a entry price that you saw in stock ABCD back when you bought at .01 per share. This is why it is important for substance and growth to be revealed in a stock because that’s what makes the next person buying stock ABCD at .10 feel as though they are buying shares of stock ABCD at a discount rather than the premium. This is what helps a stock’s price to hold its gains.

Some people would take it personal when you mention that you are selling stock ABCD to take profits at .10 per share while they are just now hearing or believing in stock ABCD and buying at .10 per share. Heck, if you get a 10 bagger, you should logically always take some profits. When you take profits it’s a personal decision and really isn’t anyone’s business. People should not ask if you have bought or sold a stock and you should try to make it a habit to not offer such info either. Normally when you start offering such info as a norm, people try to make you feel obligated to continue not at your discretion, but instead at theirs.

There were times where I and others were manipulated (long story) to where the more I tried to explain to people/shareholders, the more things got twisted. At one time, I used to practice telling people that I owned no stocks whether I was posting on them or not, buying them or not, etc. because I could not and would not promise a time or price that I would hold a stock. Heck, most of the times, I don’t know. Read the story in the link below to understand one reason why I feel as I do:
http://ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219…

It is my discretion if I want to risk selling stock ABCD to risk making more in another stock to maybe come back to stock ABCD later, or not. I have done such in the past where things had worked out for the better and for the worse. Others followed my lead and were upset because of the money they either “could have made” or “actually lost” for doing as I did. This is why I only would bring stock ABCD to you as an opportunity. How you “trade” or “invest” in stock ABCD is up to you. I am not a professional and rather far from it.

More thoughts should be considered for understanding when to “trade” or “invest” in a stock. Some people dislike those with a “trading” mentality while some dislike those with an “investing” mentality. I say both should be respected and understood to be important for the growth of a stock.

Those trading help to generate volume to bring a certain group of investors that reacts to a stock due to its volume. Those investing in a stock help to bring the gradual support to a stock to help for a solid base to be established.

The survival and success of that stock will ultimately be determined and earned by the legitimacy of the company and generally not because of any of us message board shareholders. Both traders and investors are important for a stock in my opinion. Really, both are one in the same if you really are going to be technical about it. We all hopefully buy a stock to one day sell. After you buy a stock, you don’t lose until you sell, but you don’t gain until you sell either.

With this is mind…

See a trader as an “accelerated investor” as they are making an investment in that stock, but they are just doing such at a faster and much more accelerated rate than the investor because of simply selling their shares early.

See an investor as a “decelerated trader” as they are making a trade in that stock, but they are just doing such at a slower and much more decelerated rate than the trader because of simply selling their shares later.

Technically speaking, we are both a trader and an investor in any stock we buy. It’s just how you choose to interpret such for your own rationale.

Bottom line, it is your responsibility for knowing when to sell and at what prices. So please, if you are buying when someone else is selling, don t take such personal. Freedom of choice does exist in the market. Buying or selling a stock is your discretion and should be done so from you doing your own due diligence (DD). Understand that the responsibility resides with you alone. Unless someone was holding a gun to your head making you click the buy or sell button, take your own blame no matter how good or bad the stock you bought. The market will not stop for your sorrows or jubilees so continue moving forward regardless.

You probably won’t be the first to get into stock ABCD and probably won’t be the last. So don’t get all wrapped around the axel trying to figure out who got in before you. Buy a stock because you believe in the due diligence (DD) that ”YOU” have done on the stock. Know that if you consider added anyone else’s info as part of your DD, then know that it is at your own discretion and the blame resides still with you.

Remember that people will normally be mad when you mention you are selling while they are buying. People will always seem to take such personal. I have found that it is always better to not get into such a subject. To keep the peace, consider keeping such thoughts to yourself. None of us like to hear things of that nature in dealing with any stock that we believe in. It’s always that subliminal thought to wonder if they are selling for bad reasons that are unknown. I have seen it better to not mention anything in that area because it only antagonizes individuals and question your true intentions for making yourself manifest.

You will be rewarded or punished by the market principle of risk. Again, the responsibility still resides within you for your decisions. I consider myself an average investor likes the many of you (maybe a little above average every now and then). These are only my thoughts derived from some of my experiences. I hope they help.

Below is the earlier process I mentioned concerning transforming $200 to $200,000 for you to read and understand at your own discretion:

The $200 to $200,000 Transformation Process...

The “$200 to $200,000 Transformation Process” is where you look to find 10 stocks that will potentially warrant 100% returns from a minimum investment of $200 to obtain wealth by exponentially having a monetary value of $200,000+ dollars. Below I have explained again how this could possibly happen.

The thing that is to be considered is not necessarily the stock, rather it’s the concept of the “$200 to $200,000 Transformation Process” that I think all should consider. The key is to remain discipline and flexible.

I will keep the math simple for calculation processing and I will minus the brokerage fees because of everyone having different brokerage fees. Observe what happens from investing $200 and it exponentially doubles 10 times beginning with Stock 1:

The “$200 to $200,000 Transformation Process”
Stock 1 = $200 to $400
Stock 2 = $400 to $800
Stock 3 = $800 to $1,600
Stock 4 = $1,600 to $3,200
Stock 5 = $3,200 to $6,400
Stock 6 = $6,400 to $12,800
Stock 7 = $12,800 to 25,600
Stock 8 = $25,600 to $51,200
Stock 9 = $51,200 to $102,400
Stock 10 = $102,400 to $204,800

It will be important for you to remain discipline and flexible to know when to move on.
You might have to make the call to risk selling above 100% gains or selling at the 50% level for gains, or lower. You might even have to make the decision to pick a percentage drop to cut your losses to move on to a better opportunity. I will not make any decisions for anyone as everyone must be responsible for their own decisions for buying and selling. All I can do is share my thoughts that should be considered speculative in nature.

Something else to note, the higher you go up in money, the better the fundamentals you should be considering to minimize your risk. Still, other variables will definitely have to be weighed whether to cut your losses and move on or to remain past your 100% gain as risk will always be a very important variable up for consideration. Remember though... nothing ventured, nothing gained. Only invest what you can afford to lose to where your conscience will not be disturbed if all was lost.

No matter how much money your $200 converts into, it is still money that you never had so always take profits somewhere along the way. The choice will be yours to exercise the option to move on at anytime with your profits or losses. Also consider the above logic if you disciplined yourself to take 50% profits instead of 100% profits. Or five stocks instead of 10 stocks. Hopefully you see the magnitude from simply remaining discipline. One of my goals have always had been to help many to become prosperous. I hope this helps!

v/r
Sterling

[oski]

nur für profis und keine märchentanten
reat Post!! Thank you, BOARD please read!!

By: stervc,


WNSH*5th Thought from $125 Million Deal Pending…

With using a conservative P/E Ratio of 12:

P/E Ratio x EPS = Supposed Share Price from Proven Value

12 x .0076 = Supposed Share Price from Proven Value

.0912 = Supposed Share Price from Proven Value

With taking where WNSH is trading at today, .0003 per share, WNSH is trading 304 times cheaper than it should be trading given its value from the closing of the $125 million deal (if transpires) derived from below:

.0912 ÷ .0003 = 304 WNSH Multiple

I personally ask myself, from using the WNSH multiple derived above…

What stock has the “potential” to bring me 304 times more the amount of value from its current price as compared to WNSH?

This is only one of its potential Revenues stream. The spin-off logic with offering three different types of potential gains from such is more that must be considered too from the post below for those who might not remember how spin-offs could work:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

These series of posts are to be used to have a general idea of where WNSH should “Fundamentally” trade if they close the $125 million deal as anticipated. If you were to use a higher P/E Ratio in which I think the market would react to, the price would probably be somewhere within .15 to .20 per share. Now throw in the spin-offs and the price could very well be even much higher. These are only my opinions.

v/r
Sterling

[KANTER]

Moin moin


War erstmal paar Tage am Meer zum Entspannen

Ich sehe,Manzo lässt sich gut Zeit


http://www.pinksheets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=53915…


Einen sonnigen Sonntag noch

[KANTER]

Sollte sich da doch tatsächlich was mit dem Lebensmittelkonzern Byersfood ergeben......





This is from ILLinois SOS for APPletree capital
President Name & Address FRANCIS PETER MANZO 5402 BRITTANY DR MCHENRY IL 60050-335


This is from ILLinois SOS for Byers FOOD
THis is byers food company address

Byers Food Company
www.byersfood.com

Address
Address: 5402 Brittany, Mchenry, Illinois (IL), 60050, US
Tel: [phone]
Web: www.byersfood.com


THIs is from ILLInois SOS for HIGH LOW FOODS INC
President Name & Address FRANCIS P MANZO III5402 W BRITTANY MCHENRY 60050
SImilar address for SUPERMARKETS PLUS, INC.

As Frank has said they will take all the Appletree capital current clients under umbrella this might be few of them..
GLTA

[oski]

ja das wird eine groser zock und wir sind von anfang an dabei

[Saftladen]

..und heute wieder party


+ 100 %

[oski]

WNSH Newly SEC Derived OS & Float Logic…

Everyone, this is almost too good to be true so please, before reading this, understand that what you are about to read is what I have derived from what WNSH have recently filed in their Form 8-K, Schedule 14C, and Form 3 with the SEC.

Filing with the SEC establishes “credibility” in a stock/company and not what I think or believe in that stock/company. So, as far as I am concerned, these are legit and official thoughts from my eyes of interpretation unless someone can officially confirm different.

Key Ownership Variables:
** Winsted Holdings = Appletree BDC
** Appletree BDC = Stock Held by the “Company”
** Appletree Capital Ltd. = Stock Held by “Francis P. Manzo III”
** Appletree Capital Ltd. = Francis P. Manzo III & TEAM = Appletree Capital BDC

Form 8-K:
http://edgar.brand.edgar-online.com/fetchFilingFrameset.aspx…
** Effective management changes as of June 30, 2007.
** Confirmation of Mr. Mark Ellis resignation of all executive functions with the Company including as President and Board member.
** Confirmation of Francis P. Manzo III appointment as the President, Director and Chief Executive Officer for Winsted Holdings Inc./Appletree Capital Ltd.

Scheduled 14C: Under the section titled “Voting Securities” observe:
http://edgar.brand.edgar-online.com/fetchFilingFrameset.aspx…
** As of the record date, June 30, 2007
** Class A Preferred Stock = 50,000,000 Shares
** Class B Preferred Stock = 50,000,000 Shares
** Outstanding Shares (OS) = 3,620,241,722 Shares

TOTAL Amount of Preferred Shares (Series A & B) = 100,000,000 Shares
TOTAL Amount of Voting Securities = 3,720,241,722 Shares

See post below for an understanding of the conversion ratio:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

** No other arrangements exist (so this is ground zero for more to follow).
** This is the “official base” for the WNSH share structure for future logical deduction.

Form 3
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1132686/0001132686070…
** Series A Preferred Shares increased by 150 million preferred shares.
** The OS = 3,620,241,722 Shares from the Schedule 14C filed with the SEC.
** Frank/CEO has the super majority votes representing anywhere from 67% to 90% of the voting shares of 3,720,241,722 Shares as of June 30, 2007. Reference link below for supermajority definition:
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/supermajority.asp

** New common shares holdings by Appletree BDC are now 41 shares.

Please reference the below SEC filings in the WNSH link below. Look under the section titled “CORPORATE OFFICES” on Page 3. WNSH filed a certificate with the Secretary of State of Florida to change within their Articles of Incorporation to have a designation of the Series A & B Preferred Shares conversion to Common Shares and Voting Shares as indicated in the below link:
http://www.secinfo.com/duvJ5.z1T7.htm

Series A Preferred Stock = …
** 50,000,000 Shares
** Convertible into 20 shares of Common Stock
** 20 Votes per share
** 1 Vote per share after the 1 for 20 into Common Stock

Series B Preferred Stock = …
** 50,000,000 Shares
** Convertible into 10 shares of Common Stock
** 10 Votes per share
** 1 Vote per share after the 1 for 10 into Common Stock

Understand the new amount of Preferred Shares (Series A & B) from the Form 3 filing with the SEC that was released late 24 Aug 07 indicated:

Appletree BDC Series A Preferred Shares = 200,000,000 Shares
Appletree BDC Series B Preferred Shares = 50,000,000 Shares

From using the conversion ration of 1:20 a derived from above that’s on file with the Secretary of State of Florida, the new Preferred Shares represents the below amount of common stock:

Series A = 200,000,000 x 20
Series A = 4,000,000,000 Common Shares

Series B = 50,000,000 x 10
Series B = 500,000,000 Common Shares

That’s a total of 4,500,000,000 Common Shares if the Series A & B Preferred Shares were to be converted to common shares; which importantly is under the 5,050,000,000 Authorized Shares (AS) amount. Since the Authorized Shares (AS) amount was not increased to account for any preferred shares if ever converted, those shares no doubt could have only come from the supermajority position of shares held by Frank, the CEO, for even having something to convert. These are shares within the 3,620,241,722 OS/Float to greatly reduce them.

I think the conversion of the preferred shares was used to enhance valuation and to implement a “Poison Pill” to make sure protections are in place if ever tried to be taken over. Reference the post below for a little more understanding:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

Of key note, I think because there is a “Reverse Triangular Merger” that is taking place, the current totals for the Series A & B Preferred Shares filed in the Form 3 includes the already previously indicated 50 million shares of the Series A Preferred Shares and the already previously indicated 50 million shares of the Series B Shares filed within the previous Schedule 14C hence reflecting the Form 3 listed totals of 200 million Series A Preferred Shares and the 50 million Series B Preferred Shares. See the post below for an understanding of the Reverse Triangular Merger:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

There were 50,000,000 shares of Series A Preferred Shares listed when the Scheduled 14C was filed on 27 Jun 07. There were 200,000,000 shares of Series A Preferred Shares listed when the Form 3 was filed with the SEC and released for viewing this Friday, 24 Aug 07. This leaves a difference of 150,000,000 new Series A Preferred Shares.

Again, since the Authorized Shares (AS) amount was not increased to account for any preferred shares if ever converted, the new 150,000,000 Series A Preferred Shares no doubt would have only come from the supermajority position of shares held by Frank (the CEO) to take from the 3,620,241,722 shares which is part of the Float and the OS reducing them both.

Since the Series B Preferred Shares remained at 50 million shares, no calculation of the Form 3 information will reflect and/or represent any conversion of preferred shares to common shares for the Series B Preferred Shares.

WNSH filed with the SEC their Scheduled 14C showing that the common shares outstanding were 3,620,241,722 shares.

WNSH filed with the Secretary of State of Florida in their Articles of Incorporation the above conversion ratios of 1:20 for Series A and 1:10 for Series B Preferred Shares.

Given the above info, this means that the difference for the increase of the Series A Preferred Shares from 27 Jun 07 to 24 Aug 07/now represents the amount of 150 million Series A Preferred Shares filed on the Form 3 taken from “converted” common shares to be reduced from the current 3,620,241,722 outstanding shares (OS) as indicated:

150,000,000 x 20 = 3,000,000,000 common shares

With the 360,000,000 shares buyback, then we have common shares indicated below:

3,000,000,000 (Already Converted Shares) + 360,000,000 (Buyback Shares) = 3,360,000,000 common shares converted to preferred shares and bought back

This would give WNSH an OS as indicated below:

3,620,241,722 - 3,360,000,000 = 260,241,722 Outstanding Shares (OS)

Since within the Form 3, it was filed that there are only 41 common shares, then such would mean below for what is the Official Float:

260,241,722 Outstanding Shares – 41 common shares = 260,241,681 Float Shares

Now here’s what makes everything “MUCH” more interesting. With an OS of 260,241,722 shares and a Float of 260,241,681 shares, think about all of the people that have 10% of the OS for their current holdings that are going to have to file with the SEC a Form 3 for their initial/current position of shares within 10 days of the official notification of the 260,241,722 shares outstanding. See 10% definition below explaining why:
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/form3.asp

I have never seen a short squeeze done as this, but with the new SEC rule for covering all Failure To Delivers (FTD’s) that’s supposed to take affect on 15 Oct 07, this could become very interesting if there are any FTD’s existing in WNSH. I think those with FTD’s shares would realized that the more legitimacy revealed by WNSH, the sooner they would need to cover before being forced to buy back listed positions outside of the OS at much higher prices. See SEC new rule link below:
http://www.sec.gov/rules/final/2007/34-56212.pdf

Now take the post/link below and any calculation for valuation where I used the 3,620,241,722 shares as the OS to derive a valuation, replace it with this new OS of 260,241,722 shares outstanding. That’s math in which I think it would be better for you to create and see for yourself the magnitude of the new valuations rather have me post them.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

Now read below by Maani showing reverse merger candidates under the same address as Appletree Capital:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

Now read the magnitude of a Byers or similar reverse merger into WNSH:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

Again, all of the above information was derived and initiated from the current SEC filings from WNSH. I will reserve for now from posting any detailed fundamental valuations until more is officially released and/or confirmed.

I was not smart enough to initially see all of these things. A poster by the name of “maani” was the individual that shared a few thoughts for me to come to the above conclusions. Unless anything from the company is released confirming otherwise, the above is how I interpret the recent documents/forms filed with the SEC. Please share your thoughts to explain to me how I am looking at any of these thoughts wrong.

v/r
Sterling

[KANTER]

[KANTER]

Posted by: greg32
In reply to: None Date:9/7/2007 12:18:43 PM
Post #of 27347

FWIW got an email from Frank today.

Sent him an email yesterday letting him know about the administrative dissolution in Florida and this is his response.

,

Appreciate the information. We've planned to re-incorporating in Delaware,
and we're going through that process currently. I'd like to get WNSH on a
different path than previous management, so we'd have better flexibility and
costs going to Delaware. I do appreciate the update! Thank you.

Regards,
Frank Manzo
Winsted Holdings, Inc.

[oski]

Everyone, a WNSH CEO Email…

There was a private IM that I had received voicing some concerns about WNSH possibly getting halted by the SEC due to some legitimacy issues and how they are conducting their company operations and business. I sent an email to Frank about these things this past Friday to inform him of these concerns and where they originated from; the message boards.

I am not planning on making it a habit to post every email I receive from Frank the WNSH CEO regularly, but I will when he asks me to do so. So, please read below Frank's response to my email expressing the SEC concerns that were brought to my attention:

v/r
Sterling

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.487.521 von oski am 09.09.07 14:46:34

Hey oski,wie wäre es mit der Antwort auf die Anfrage!???





from Francis Manzo <[e-mail]> hide details 3:52 pm (11 hours ago)
reply-to Francis Manzo <[e-mail]>
to Sterling Collins <[e-mail]>
date Sep 8, 2007 3:52 PM
subject Re: IMPORTANT Message...
mailed-by comcast.net

Mr. Collins:

SEC isn't going to do anything. I've talked to them early this week. I keep
them abreast of what's going on with regards to the clean-up.The stock isn't
trading like a pump and dump operation. Mark Ellis and me are far apart, and
I don't even talk to him. I don't even have his phone number!
Let the Boards know that.

Regards,
Frank

[oski]

thanks

[oski]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.491.561 von oski am 09.09.07 18:29:32

Trade Statistics For WNSH - Tuesday, Sep 11 2007
Total Number Of Trades - 29

Thru 12:25:20 PM

PPS . . Trades . Volume
0.0003........9......4,380,000
0.0004.......20.....15,780,750

Average PPS - 0.000369
Average Shares Traded - 695,198 ( $257)

.............Time............... Trades..... Volume
09:00 AM - 09:59 AM - - 5 - - - 3,430,000
10:00 AM - 10:59 AM - - 5 - - - 950,100
11:00 AM - 11:59 AM - - 15 - - - 10,880,650
12:00 PM - 12:59 PM - - 4 - - - 4,900,000
01:00 PM - 01:59 PM - - - - -
02:00 PM - 02:59 PM - - - - -
03:00 PM - 03:59 PM - - - - -

04:00 PM - 04:59 PM - - - - -
05:00 PM - 05:59 PM - - - - -

Total Traded Volume - 20,160,750
-----------------------------------------------------

Out of 29 trades there were 7 trades BELOW $100.00

0.0003 ---- 6,000 ---- 10:05:08 AM
0.0003 ---- 6,000 ---- 10:05:08 AM
0.0004 ---- 100 ---- 10:11:48 AM
0.0004 ---- 100 ---- 11:14:02 AM
0.0004 ---- 250,000 ---- 11:43:22 AM
0.0004 ---- 80,550 ---- 11:47:12 AM
0.0004 ---- 150,000 ---- 12:20:30 PM

Total Shares- - - 492,750
Average PPS - - - 0.00037
--------------------------------------------

There were 7 trades OVER 1,000,000 shares

0.0004 ---- 2,500,000 ---- 12:25:20 PM
0.0004 ---- 2,450,000 ---- 11:33:46 AM
0.0004 ---- 2,000,000 ---- 11:36:54 AM
0.0004 ---- 1,250,000 ---- 11:47:18 AM
0.0004 ---- 1,250,000 ---- 11:47:42 AM
0.0004 ---- 1,250,000 ---- 12:20:22 PM
0.0004 ---- 1,000,000 ---- 12:20:52 PM

Total Shares- - - 11,700,000
Average PPS - - - 0.000400
--------------------------------------------

There were 2 trades UNDER 1,000 shares

0.0004 ---- 100 ---- 10:11:48 AM
0.0004 ---- 100 ---- 11:14:02 AM

[sopor]

Ja sieht heute mal ganz gut aus. naja noch ein Schritt und ich bin PARI.

Leider mit der Hälfte zu hoch eingestiegen.

Ich bekomme das nie hin.

[oski]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.535.842 von sopor am 11.09.07 19:43:11

locker sopor
du bist auf der gewinner seite
nur geduld das ist die devise bei der OTC

[sopor]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.536.481 von oski am 11.09.07 20:04:11

Na oski, das hatten wir bei BANY auch gedacht.

Naja hoffen wir, das es hier besser läuft. Bräuchte mal wieder etwas zurück von dem BANY-Desaster.

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.537.546 von sopor am 11.09.07 20:42:49

[oski]

bei bany bist du beim zock aufgesprungen, hier hast du die chance von anfang an dabei zu sein, nutze sie
den bald werden wir auf platz eins stehen und die clickrate wird täglich über 20000 sein

[oski]

Thru 3:57:50 PM

PPS . . Trades . Volume
0.0003.......16.....14,709,250
0.0004.......23.....16,980,750

[oski]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/jjc_001/Investments/C…

[oski]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.578.377 von oski am 14.09.07 20:44:54

falscher thread

[oski]

911

[Schnatzi]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.681.571 von oski am 20.09.07 22:45:16

911 aha, jetzt wird hier auf über den Code gekauft... Die MM´s geben Zeichen, dass hier bald die Post abgehen wird!!!

[sopor]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.682.697 von Schnatzi am 21.09.07 08:20:55

Was bedeutet denn dieses 911?

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.683.207 von sopor am 21.09.07 09:16:01

Zuffenhausener Haufen Blech mit 350 Pferdestärken unter der Haube!

[sopor]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.690.017 von KANTER am 21.09.07 16:58:44

Achso. Ich dachte Notruf oder eben besagter Tag?

Und wieso so ein Auto? denke aus meinen 1200$ wird das nichts werden.

Und wie kommt es das dies als eine Art "Code" rüberkommt? gab es so etwas schon öfter, sry aber bin eher neuling bei OTC.

[oski]

wird langsam zeit,
bin bereit und kaufe keine stücke mehr

the 125ml deal might take place late next week, since its the end of the 3rd quarter. Theres couple of companies with deals next week. One major one is (fccn) and this one if it happens.

[oski]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.690.141 von sopor am 21.09.07 17:05:04

hmmmm ein porsche 911

[KANTER]

Kurzfristig war die Tage unter der Website von Winsted Holdings folgendes zu finden:

[sopor]

Soll das ein von denen finanziertes Projekt sein? Oder hat die Seite einen neuen Besitzer ?

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.757.302 von sopor am 27.09.07 04:38:39

Posted by: playerguy
In reply to: None Date:9/27/2007 10:59:11 AM
Post #of 28117

Email from Francis Manzo, just received this reply. I am holding and accumulating. This is not your typical pink sheet CEO:
---------------------------
I sent:
----- Original Message -----
From: xxxxxxx
To: Francis Manzo
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: Winsted Holdings, Inc


Mr. Manzo, if you place any value on your shareholders I believe there needs to be some communication from you, if nothing other than to say "things continue to be progressing". It doesn't necessarily need to be a PR, just an e-mail response to some of the stockholders that have been sending you e-mails. There have been a tremendous number of scams in the pink market this season and the shareholder base and positive sentiment appears to be deteriorating.

Thanks for your time..
--------------------------------
----- Original Message -----
From: Francis Manzo
To: xxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: Winsted Holdings, Inc


Dear Sir:

In the recent I've send replies to shareholder and have had them completely altered to misrepresent what I sent. I've been careful not to reply to anyone because of this experience.

All I can tell you (legally) is that we have an accountant and they expect to have all the 10K's and 10Q's done by November. I have been visiting various companies looking at possible acquisitions for Winsted. I'm not going to leave it a shell, and I'm not going to 'rape' the company as previous management did.

Regards,
Frank Manzo

[Schnatzi]

Hoffentlich geht hier mal bald wieder die Post ab...

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.842.757 von Schnatzi am 04.10.07 15:25:19

Ruhe vor dem Storm!!???

[poppele]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.844.546 von KANTER am 04.10.07 17:13:25

Guten Morgen


eigentlich müßte jetzt langsam die Post abgehen!

Pressekommuniquã# Quelle: Winsted Holdings, Inc.


Winsted Holdings verursacht neue Tochtergesellschaft, verkündet ersten Spin-off
Donnerstag, die 2.,11. August: 07 morgens UND


NORTHFIELD, Illinois--(GESCHÄFT LEITUNG)--Winsted Holdings, Inc. (rosafarbene Blätter: WNSH - Nachrichten) verursachen neue Tochtergesellschaft, verkünden Zweitanteile.
Präsident und CEO Francis Manzo verkündeten die Kreation von Tochterwinsted Acquisition I, Inc. als Nevada Korporation. Die neue Tochtergesellschaft erwirbt und leitet die Firmen ein, die auf der Nahrungsmittel- und Getränkeindustrie bezogen werden. Als Teil des Unternehmensplanes beabsichtigt die Firma, Anteile der neuen Tochtergesellschaft auf gegenwärtige Aktionäre zu verteilen. Die verteilten Anteile sind auf einer pro-rata Grundlage unter Richtlinie 144. Die Firma beabsichtigt, Anteile an der Tochtergesellschaft an einem festgestellt zu werden Anteilverhältnis zu verteilen. Das Dividendedatum soll schon festgestellt werden. Die Firma fängt die notwendigen regelnden Archivierungen an, um den Prozeß des Spin-off anzufangen.

Winsted Acquisition I, Inc. wird von Winsted Holdings Corporation als unterschiedliche Korporation abgespaltet und 15 (2) 2-11 nach dem Zweit einordnet, um handelnden Status zu erzielen.

Winsted Acquisition I, Inc. beabsichtigt, nach Erwerb Anwärtern in der Nahrung, in der natürlichen Nahrung und in den Getränkemärkten sofort zu schauen.

„Sicherer Hafen-“ Aussage unter der privaten Sicherheiten Rechtsstreit-Verbesserung-Tat von 1995:

Diese Freigabe schließt das Vorwärts-Schauen der Aussagen ein, die für den sicheren Hafen von der Verbindlichkeit qualifizieren sollen, die durch die private Sicherheiten Rechtsstreit-Verbesserung-Tat von 1995 hergestellt wird. Diese Vorwärts-schauenden Aussagen können durch Phrasen wie WNSH im Allgemeinen gekennzeichnet werden, oder sein Management „glaubt,“ „erwartet,“ „nimmt vorweg,“ „sieht,“ „Prognosen voraus,“ „schätzt“ oder andere Wörter oder Phrasen des ähnlichen Importes. Ähnlich Vorwärts-schauen Aussagen in dieser Freigabe, die der die Geschäftsstrategie Firma, die Aussicht, die Zielsetzungen, die Pläne, die Absichten oder die Ziele auch beschreiben, Aussagen. All diese Vorwärts-schauende Aussagen sind abhängig von bestimmten Gefahren und Ungewißheiten, die tatsächliche Resultate veranlassen konnten, sich von denen in Vorwärts-schauenden Aussagen materiell zu unterscheiden.



Kontakt:
Appletree Hauptltd., Northfield, IL Francis P. Manzo III, Präsident, 847-441-1822 http://www.winstedholdings.com/ [e-mail]

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Quelle: Winsted Holdings, Inc.

[KANTER]

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As of July 13, 2007, Winsted Holdings Inc. was acquired by Appletree Capital Ltd. in a reverse merger transaction. Winsted Holdings, Inc., through its subsidiary, Medspa Solutions, Inc., provides skin care and nonsurgical cosmetic procedures

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[oski]

It appears that Frank is doing the right things to make things happen in an orderly manner. Many wanted him to worry about the filings later due to thinking that it was not doable due to previous management.

Frank has found some ways around not needing anything from the previous management and has decided to move forward with taking care of the filings first. I think such was a good move, but of course patience is required. This will bring the needed transparency that is required before moving up to the next level of credibility.

Enough have been posted and talked about where we all should be familiar enough with the potential that WNSH brings. Heck, I always have more thoughts and posts ready to share, but I think we are at a point now with WNSH that certain confirmation from the company needs to be publicly done from previous thoughts shared.

I saw where someone posted an email from Frank that November is what he is trying to have everything filed by. Frank has earned my trust and I trust that Frank has the shareholders' best interest at heart.

v/r
Sterling

[KANTER]

Step by Step..........





Pre 14C out.

http://www.pinksheets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=54676…

[sopor]

Wäre wirklich schön, wenn hier mal was Positives passiert, bei meinem diesjährigen "Glück" bisher.

[KANTER]

Posted by: stervc
In reply to: None Date:8/21/2007 8:35:58 PM
Post #of 28486

WNSH $125 Million Deal Pending Summaries…

Below are some thoughts I posted to show a step by step consideration of valuation “IF” the $125 Million is actually completed:

WNSH*1st Thought from $125 Million Deal Pending
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH*2nd Thought from $125 Million Deal Pending
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH*3rd Thought from $125 Million Deal Pending
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH*4th Thought from $125 Million Deal Pending
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

WNSH*5th Thought from $125 Million Deal Pending
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…

v/r
Sterling

[oski]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.919.908 von KANTER am 10.10.07 07:12:50

nur geduld sopor, der anfang ist gemacht

[Schnatzi]

Hey das hört sich doch mal sehr positiv an... Bin ja mal gespannt was die Amis da heute mit dem Kurs machen.?

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.922.233 von Schnatzi am 10.10.07 11:14:50

[poppele]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.927.766 von KANTER am 10.10.07 17:12:09

Hallo Jungs

bin auch fett drinn,und zwar long



Geduld ist angesagt

Poppele

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.932.904 von poppele am 10.10.07 22:39:05

[sopor]

Was seht ihr für Ziele ca.?

hab leider nen Schnitt von 0,0005 uund nur 1,5 Mill.

[poppele]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.933.197 von KANTER am 10.10.07 23:12:25

Guten Morgen Jungs

schaut mal bei Raging Bull vorbei


By: jasonswfl
10 Oct 2007, 05:24 PM EDT
Msg. 120 of 124
(This msg. is a reply to 117 by brantjk.)
Jump to msg. #
Buy backs ?? Please give me some examples of penny ceos buying back shares. He pulled that out of a copy and paste pr manual ALL ceos get when purchasing a shell. AND lets just say he is buying back 360 mill shares you still have 3 bill OS.

I don't know how long youve played pennies but they are playing you IMO

poppele

[poppele]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.933.992 von poppele am 11.10.07 07:31:27

oh!

es gibt ja viel Info auf


http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id…


ist ja toll

poppele

[Schnatzi]

Hoffe hier bald mal höhere Kurse zu sehen...
Was meint ihr wann passiert hier mal was?

[KANTER]

REINSTATEMENT !!
LINK
WNSH Reinstatement
LINK
http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe?action=DETFIL&inq_d…
Merger paper to be filed soon

[ebihard1]

habt ihr das gelesen ?

das mache ich gleich!



KILL THE SHORTS - Place a high limit sellorder !!!

Your shares can be borrowed by someone to go short with them and put the price down.

If we all place a longer-term-sellorder ( 90 days o.s.) with a higher limit, your shares can´t be borrowed anymore and they are locked for short.

Place a sellorder an support the PPS.


ebi

[KANTER]

Appletree Capital, Ltd.

Zhemian Ventures is currently assisting Appletree Capital, Ltd.-a Chicago-based private equity, venture capital and merchant banking group to raise $100 million for the Appletree Investors I, LP fund and $25 million for the Appleseed Ventures I, LLC fund.

These two VC funds will be used to make investments in early-stage and middle-stage companies in Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, and Illinois (basically the mid U.S.)-a market that is relatively untapped by VC firms on the East and West coasts. Appletree Capital, Ltd. has a management team with several years of private equity experience between them and is committed to maximizing return and controlling risks for investors.

If you are interested in participating in either of these funds, wish to request a copy of the Private Placement Memorandum for each fund or have any questions regarding either fund, please send an email to: [e-mail].

[oski]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.984.657 von KANTER am 14.10.07 17:34:56

die nächsten wochen wirds enorm spannend

[KANTER]

Sämtliche bis dato möglichen Filings sind durch,nun gilt es abzuwarten,welche GeldSumme nach dem Merger mit Appletree in Winsted/Appletree eingespritzt wird und welche Aquisekandidaten(Byersfood als ein möglicher.....)seitens A/W finanziell mit den 25 Millionen unterstützt bzw aquiriert werden sollen.

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.984.695 von oski am 14.10.07 17:40:23

Hi oski,
du sagst es!!!

[oski]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.984.712 von KANTER am 14.10.07 17:42:02

hi Kanter
extrem das die aktie noch am boden liegt, werde morgen eventuell nachkaufen und abwarten bis die NEWS vom abschluss des mergers(CASH)anrollen

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.984.757 von oski am 14.10.07 17:49:00

Ich mein auch,das unter den Bedingungen,das der Merger mit Appletree schon seit geraumer Zeit durch ist und welch Fantasie damit einhergeht,das die Aktie im Moment spottbillig ist!
Aber andere Invests sind momentan noch interessanter und außerdem ist das sone Sache im Moment mit wirkichen krachern und Luftnummern, und man wartet wohl lieber erst ab,ob tatsächlich nur heiße Luft oder mehr dahinter steckt. Bei vielen ist das Vertrauen in solche Pinkies nimmer vorhanden,wa auch verständlich ist bei soviel Lug und Trug an diesem Segment.

[sopor]

Ach wäre das schön diese Aktie bei 0,01$ zu sehn.

Aber wird wohl ein Traum bleiben, bei meinem Glück.

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.984.842 von sopor am 14.10.07 17:57:36

Mal ganz ehrlich sopor........




würdest du warten wollen,bis die Aktie bei 1 Penny steht!???



Ich denk einen guten Gewinn mitzunehmen ist nicht verkehrt!Die Erfahrung hat doch gezeigt,das es nach einem sehr guten Anstieg erstmal ordentliche Einbrüche (Konsolidierung) gab und meißt eine längerfristige Seitwärtsbwegung gab. Von daher ist es sicher nich verkehrt ein paar 100 Prozent abzuwarten,mitzunehmen und wieder abzuwarten um dann evtl. tiefer wieder mit einer Summe aus de gewinn einzusteigen

[sopor]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.984.894 von KANTER am 14.10.07 18:03:04

Ja kannst recht. meine bisherigen versuche an OTC haben allerdings eher ein heftige10er% Minus eingefahren und wäre doch so schön die wieder raus zu bekommen, deshalb bräuchte ich schon x20.

Aber ich denke auch das wird nichts. Muss mich echt in geduld üben und in kleinen Schritten den verlust ausbügeln.

Deshalb bitte nimm meine Träume nicht so ernst, aber danke für die Ohrfeige und das Zurückholen in die realität. Das brauch ich manchmal.

[oski]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.985.155 von sopor am 14.10.07 18:30:42

sopor
wenn die besagten NEWS anrollen solltest du schon einen schritt weiter sein und ans verkaufen denken

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.984.712 von KANTER am 14.10.07 17:42:02

http://zhemian.com/index.asp

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 31.985.155 von sopor am 14.10.07 18:30:42

[KANTER]

DEF 14C Filing



http://www.pinksheets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=54799…

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.059.070 von KANTER am 17.10.07 23:29:09

....und das nächste Filing.......



http://www.pinksheets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=54825…

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.073.079 von KANTER am 18.10.07 21:24:57

N-54C Oct 18, 2007 7.8 KB PDF RTF HTML

DEF 14C Oct 17, 2007 Oct 17, 2007 24.2 KB PDF RTF HTML

PRE 14C Oct 9, 2007 Oct 9, 2007 23.7 KB PDF RTF HTML

8-K Sep 19, 2007 Sep 18, 2007 3.6 KB PDF RTF HTML

3 Aug 24, 2007 Jun 30, 2007 5.6 KB PDF RTF HTML XLS


DEF 14C Jul 27, 2007 Jun 30, 2007 22.7 KB PDF RTF HTML

8-K Jul 27, 2007 Jun 30, 2007 3.9 KB PDF RTF HTML XLS

8-K Aug 18, 2006 Aug 16, 2006 32.4 KB PDF RTF HTML XLS

10-Q Aug 14, 2006 Jun 30, 2006 604.8 KB PDF RTF HTML XLS

8-K Jul 21, 2006 Jul 21, 2006 9.6 KB PDF RTF HTML




...fleißig Hausaufgaben gemacht Mr. Manzo!!!

[oski]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.073.159 von KANTER am 18.10.07 21:28:13

bald...climber....

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.073.159 von KANTER am 18.10.07 21:28:13

...und hier nochmal als süße PDF Datei


http://www.pinksheets.com/edgar/GetFilingPdf?FilingID=548255…

[poppele]

!

Dieser Beitrag wurde moderiert.

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.078.149 von poppele am 19.10.07 06:46:57

Falscher Tread Freund!!!

[KANTER]

In Kürze wird der Q 10 erwartet................




Posted by: stervc
In reply to: max2205 who wrote msg# 28878 Date:10/18/2007 11:40:48 PM
Post #of 28998

Max2205, with the WNSH supermajority position...

From the piece below in the WNSH Form N-54C filing, it looks like he will use WNSH shares to obtain ownership in another entity that will be trading to be the supermajority shareholder in WNSH. This is why he holds the supermajority position of shares (67% to 90%). I won’t even begin to talk about if valuation is placed into the shares of the other companies that we would be receiving the spin-offs in, as we greatly anticipate. I’ll save those thoughts for some future posts as more is further confirmed.

To add, every company that he issues us as a spin-off will be majority owned by him as for the ownership of the spin-off company will have a stake in WNSH from the exchange of shares. This means that such ownership will be considered one in the same as he will be the supermajority shareholder in the spin-off too. This is why a reverse split will never need to be done as a reverse split would hurt the WNSH position to grow itself and other companies because they need an inventory of shares to use as the tool of exchange to keep the growth expanding in house. This is great all because of his supermajority position.

This is how Frank will continue to reward shareholders. The beauty of the way it appears that he will be doing this though is that as he rewards shareholders, he will get back more in return for himself and his companies. See it as if every time he pays us $1.00, he gets $2.00 in return from doing such. So, the more motivated he is to reward himself to grow his companies, the greater the success we will be forced to receive. This is how it will be a win win situation for us all as Frank drags us along for success from his success. This is going to be awesome as it is looking like Frank is going to pull this off better than any other penny stock that has ever even tried.

Observe from the WNSH Form N-54C:
http://www.pinksheets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=54825…

...As compensation for these services, the Company proposes to receive revenue to sustain operations and may receive shares of the Client, which will then be registered by the Client in its initial public offering. ...

...In addition, the Company may acquire business entities by an exchange in shares. ...

v/r
Sterling

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.081.723 von KANTER am 19.10.07 12:07:21

Ups, Q10 war doch die Antiaging-Pflege



Ich meint natürlich 10Q!!

[KANTER]

[oski]

schönes volumen heute ,über 55m.gehandelt wow

[KANTER]

Für eine ehemalige Ellis-Bude hält sich das Teil verdammt gut!

[KANTER]

Wens interessiert,hier nochmal die Geschichte um Ellis und Manzo..






Monday, July 16, 2007

Ellis is out at Winsted Holdings.

Buyer says he will 'clean it up,' merge with other companies.
By RONALD CAMPBELL
The Orange County Register

Winsted Holdings, a money-losing company that generated millions through stock sales, has been sold to Appletree Capital for about $2,000.

Winsted, the subject of a Register investigation in March (CLICK HERE for the investigation), and its former president, Mark Ellis are being investigated by the Securities and Exchange Commission.

"What happened in the past is between the SEC and Ellis," said Francis Manzo, the Chicago businessman whose company bought Winsted. "I'm coming in to try to make something of this company that's a shell."

Manzo said Ellis is no longer with the company.

The Register found that from 2003 through mid-2006 Ellis raised nearly $4 million through sales of penny stock, keeping most of the cash for himself. He repeatedly reverse-split the stock, making a $1,000 stake in 2003 worth about three hundred-trillionths of a penny four years later. He lured new investors with press releases promising big deals.

(...unglaublich was für offensichtliche Verbrecher immer und immer wieder es schaffen,sich Kapital von den gutgläubigen Anlegern zu verschaffen,ohne das wirklich sofort gegen solche Machenschaften seitens der SEC vorgegangen wird)

Ellis did not return e-mails requesting comment for this story.

"My plan is to clean it up and create a business for the investors," Manzo said. "There's always value in publicly traded companies."

Manzo said he intends to restructure Winsted as a holding company and then merge it with other companies that want to go public.

Many smaller companies go public by merging with publicly traded shell companies that have few or no assets of their own. Such "reverse mergers" avoid the time and expense of an initial public offering.

Winsted investors cheered the sale, which was first reported on Winsted's Web site July 1 and confirmed Friday. The stock has soared from $0.0001 before the sale rumors to $0.0007 Monday.

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.090.794 von KANTER am 19.10.07 22:33:20

"...The Register found that from 2003 through mid-2006 Ellis raised nearly $4 million through sales of penny stock, keeping most of the cash for himself. He repeatedly reverse-split the stock, making a $1,000 stake in 2003 worth about three hundred-trillionths of a penny four years later. He lured new investors with press releases promising big deals..".......



.....muss man sich natürlich fragen,ob nach Aufdeckung solcher höchst kriminellen Machenschaften die SEC im Nachhinein gegen solche Verbrecher ermittelt und ob sowas in Deutschland auch möglich wäre......

[KANTER]

!

Dieser Beitrag wurde moderiert. Grund: auf eigenen Wunsch des Users

[KANTER]

APPLETREE CAPITAL Ltd




Appletree Capital Ltd ist ein auf der Grundlage von Chicago Private Equity, Risikokapital, und Merchant Banking Gruppe, die zu verwalten, und investieren in die Entwicklung von wachsenden Unternehmen für unsere Investoren und Verwaltung. Angeführt von unserem Geschäftsführer Francis Manzo hat Appletree erfahrene Mitarbeiter zusammen. Das Team und die Talente und vielfältigen Hintergründe bringen eine Reihe von Fachwissen in unsere Aktivitäten zu investieren und zu finanzieren.


Unser Geschäft ist es,Unternehmen zum wachsen zu bringen und zu pflegen, sie reifen und weiterentwickeln ", wählen Sie aus dem Baum" die Unternehmen, mit denen wir glauben,sie sind reif für einen Verkauf, Fusion oder ein öffentliches Angebot. Appletree Team besteht aus Profis mit Hintergrunderfahrungen in Private Equity, Investment Banking, Investitionen, Forschung, und Erfahrungen auf der operativen Ebene. Wir sind Fachkräfte in der Arbeit mit Unternehmern, denn wir sind selbst Unternehmer. Wir verstehen die Herausforderungen der Gründung neuer Unternehmen und die Erweiterung bestehender Arbeitsplätze.



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Appletree Investoren I, LP, ist eine gebildete Partnerschaft,um die Private Equity Investitionen in die wachsende Mittelschicht - Markt Unternehmen zu unterstützen,mit überdurchschnittliche Renditen und sorgfältig kontrolliertem Risiko.


Appleseed Ventures I, LLC, ist eine Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung, um Private Equity Investitionen in der Vorbereitung und sich noch im frühen Stadium befindenden Unternehmen mit sorgfältig kontrollierten Risiko und zu überwachen.

Appletree ist vor allem ein disziplinierter Anleger. Wir pflegen eine konsequente Ausrichtung auf die Mitte, tätigen Investitionen mit sorgfältig kontrolliertem Risiko.

Erhaltung des Kapitals ist seit jeher ein wichtiges Ziel, durch strenge Sorgfaltspflichten, nachdenklicher Kapital Strukturierung, und der Zusatz von starken finanziellen Partnern, wo es angebracht ist,und der Einsatz von qualifizierten Managementteams. Wir haben langjährige Erfahrungen in der Ermittlung von Möglichkeiten für die Schaffung von Werten, und wir bringen Einfallsreichtum und Flexibilität bei der Strukturierung der Steuerung und sinnvollen Minderheit Beteiligungen.

Wir glauben, dass die Eckpfeiler einer Investition das operative Management sind. Wir suchen bewährte Führungskräfte, die die Fähigkeiten besitzen und das persönliche Engagement, um ein Unternehmen erfolgreich leiten zu können.
Zu unseren Anlegern zählen Privatpersonen, andere Equity und Hedge Fonds, der öffentlichen Unternehmen und Pensionsfonds, Banken, Versicherungen, Stiftungen und Family Offices aus den USA, in Kanada und aus dem Fernen Osten. Mit zusätzlichem Kapital ist Appletree aktiv für weitere und neue Investitionsmöglichkeiten.



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[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.095.022 von KANTER am 20.10.07 21:12:59

Teil 2...................







Unser Portfolio




Unsere Beteiligung an einer Investition dauert im Idealfall von drei bis sieben Jahren. Wenn der geeignete Zeitpunkt kommt das unterstützte Unternehmen mit der Bewirtschaftung zu beenden,kommen für Appletree in der Regel eine Reihe von Optionen,welches zum einen ein öffentliches Angebot,der Verkauf an ein anderes Unternehmen oder der Verkauf an eine andere Private Equity sein kann.


Wir sind auf folgende im Frühstadium in seiner Entwicklung befindlichen Unternehmen interessiert:


Consumer Products & Foods

Financial Services Financial Services

Media & Communications Media & Communications

Healthcare Products & Services Healthcare Products & Services

Life Sciences Life Sciences





wir zielen auf Unternehmen mit:




Stetigen Cashflow

Starke Wachstumsaussichten

Nachhaltige Wettbewerbsvorteile

Bewährtes Management

Erhebliches Potenzial für eine Verbesserung des Gewinns

Spektrum der möglichen Ausgänge





Typische Kandidaten für Investitionen:

Privat geführte Unternehmen, die Beschleunigung des Wachstums durch Ausbau, der Erwerb oder Markt Konsolidierung
Akquisitionen von Unternehmen mit starken Marktpositionen, einschließlich Waise Bereichen der öffentlichen Unternehmen
Appletree sah die Möglichkeit, eine Wertpapierfirma mit den höchsten Standards der Integrität, persönliches Engagement und berufliche Investitionen zu schaffen. Sie werden heute durch zusätzliche Investitionen Profis.



Ende....

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.095.122 von KANTER am 20.10.07 21:29:15

Appletree Capital arbeitet mit Zhemian Ventures, LLCzusammen was sich in folgendem auch mit Zahlen belegen lässt:



Appletree Kapital, Ltd..


Zhemian Ventures unterstützt z.Z. Appletree Kapital, Ltd.eine in Chicago-gegründete private equity, venture capital und merchant banking group mit $100 Million für die Appletree Investoren,und $25 Million für Appleseed Ventures (beides siehe im Beitrag vorherige Posts!) Diese zwei Kapital VC werden benutzt, um Investitionen im Frühstadium und Mittelstadium sich befindenen Firmen in Oklahoma, in Texas, in Kansas und in Illinois zu bilden (im Allgemeinen der mittlere U.S.)Markt.



Appletree Investoren: 100.000.000 Dollar

Appleseed Ventures: 25.000.000 Dollar




.................

[oski]

guten morgen
denke bald geht hier die post,da sterling mit an board ist kenne ich nur eine richtung 500%-1000% gewinn
nur meine meinung
schönen sonntag

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.096.804 von oski am 21.10.07 12:13:45

Nich Sterling..............Sterling ist nur ein User und Aktionär wie Du und ich oski!



Schau dir die letzten Posts an,dann weißt du WAS und WER wichtig ist!!

[oski]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.097.191 von KANTER am 21.10.07 13:41:43

stimmt, aber er hat den definitiven überblick in sachen WNSH und bringt spannende updates und wo er dabei ist gibts reichlich %
schönen sonntag

[Schnatzi]

Hey jetzt geht es los oder.?

RT 5

[oski]

sieht im volumenbereich gut aus

[KANTER]

FWIW email from Francis.

The only thing that I can report is that the company is no longer a BDC, which will make it easier to bring the company back into reporting compliance. The CPA firm should have all the 10Q's and 10K's caught up and completed by year end. Then we could be announcing potential acquisitions/mergers when Winsted's all cleaned up. We're talking to potential candidates at this time.


Regards,
Frank Manzo
President
Winsted Holdings, Inc.

----- Original Message -----
From:
To: [e-mail]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:18 PM
Subject: WNSH


Hello Francis. I see that there have been a few SEC filings this past week in regard to WNSH. Good to see there is progress with the company. Last time we spoke you mentioned it was mess from the Ellis era, but that you’d get it done and bring WNSH back to reporting status. It appears that is what we are seeing happen based on the filings. Good on ya!

Do you plan to issue a press release to update the status? Or do we keep watching for filings?

[KANTER]

[sopor]

Na heute sieht es gut aus. Endlich wieder Par.

Hoffe da kommt noch ne menge mehr, aber die die bei 0,0003 rein sind, haben ja schon schön was verdient. Ich muss noch bis 0,01$ abwarten, um mein diesjährigen Verlust auszugleichen.

[Schnatzi]

Die 5 ist heute wieder locker drin... Vielleicht sogar die 6.?

[KANTER]

Ein kurzes Update seitens Frank:



The following is an e-mail I rec'd from Frank:

First I wrote: Out of curiousity

Dear Mr. Manzo:

I just wanted to see if we are still on track as you said in your previous e-mails. Lots of talk on the boards about what is true about a 125mill deal and Byers Food. Most, as me, are just waiting and letting you do your work. Is there any info I could pass along before people lose interest?


Frank's Reply: I have not replied to this message yet.

Dear Sir;

Not until we get this company back into regulatory compliance and in a reporting status, will much be done or announced. We are in final negotiations with the SEC to settle past matters. The accountant is working on the 10Q's and 10K's needed to bring back into fully reporting. The 125 figure you site is completely unrelated to WNSH.

Quite a few parties have approached us on reverse mergers, but not until we're ready making any announcement would be premature.

Regards,
Frank Manzo

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Danke für die info.

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Re: OT-WNSH PR Re: OT - WNSH PR
« Reply #3 on Jul 15, 2007, 7:25pm » «Antwort # 3 am Jul 15, 2007, 7:25 Uhr»

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Posted by: stervc Veröffentlicht von: stervc
In reply to: VOIP-INTERFACE who wrote msg# 6577 Date:7/13/2007 3:21:09 PM In Antwort auf: VOIP - INTERFACE, schrieb Schreib # 6577 Datum: 7/13/2007 3:21:09 PM
Post #of 7052 Post # 7052

VOIP-INTERFACE (& ALL), with the news & update... VOIP - INTERFACE (& ALL), mit den Neuigkeiten & aktualisieren ...

Please help me to see something and correct me if I am looking at things wrong. Bitte helfen Sie mir etwas zu sehen, und korrigieren Sie mich, wenn ich die Dinge falsch.

VOIP, first, thanks for the update, but with the news, your update, and other things that "strongly" appears to be forming, please consider my thoughts below... VOIP, zuerst, vielen Dank für die Aktualisierung, aber mit den Nachrichten, das Update, und andere Dinge, die "stark" zu sein scheint, die, sollten Sie in Betracht ziehen meine Gedanken unten ...

1. 1. Old management is gone with new control by Appletree Capital Ltd. Alte ist weg mit neuen Kontrolle durch Appletree Capital Ltd

2. 2. New CEO and President is Francis Manzo with goals to turnaround WNSH which was basically stagnant. Neuer CEO und Präsident ist Francis Manzo mit Zielen zur Wende WNSH was im Grunde stagniert.

3. 3. The new CEO plans on creating shareholder value through innovative strategies (I think I understand his innovative strategies). Der neue CEO Pläne für die Schaffung von Shareholder Value durch innovative Strategien (Ich glaube, ich verstehe seine innovativen Strategien).

4. 4. The former CEO Mark Ellis has not only resigned from the company, but is no longer related or involved with the company. Der ehemalige CEO Mark Ellis hat sich nicht nur aus dem Unternehmen, ist aber nicht mehr oder im Zusammenhang mit der Firma.

5. 5. WNSH plans to change from a BDC to a Holding company format. WNSH Pläne zur Änderung von BDC zu einer Holding. This is why he couldn’t do a reverse split even if he wanted to from my understanding of what was mentioned. Dies ist der Grund, warum er nicht ein Reverse Split, selbst wenn er wollte aus meinem Verständnis von dem, was erwähnt wurde. The SEC won’t allow it although I am not wise on the logic. Die SEC wird es nicht zulassen, obwohl ich bin nicht klug auf der Logik.

6. 6. Still, in going from a BDC to a Holding Company format, the company will not have a need or plan to do a reverse split. Dennoch gibt es in die von BDC zu einer Holding Format, wird das Unternehmen nicht angeben müssen oder planen Sie, um eine Reverse Split.

7. 7. Instead of a reverse split, the company has already made it known that they are planning on retiring shares and buying back shares to reduce the Outstanding Shares (OS). Statt eines Reverse Split, das Unternehmen hat bereits darauf hingewiesen, dass sie sich auf den Ruhestand Aktien der Planung und dem Kauf eigener Aktien zur Verringerung der Outstanding Shares (OS).

8. 8. WNSH, through Appletree Capital and its partners are currently working on bringing multiple solid private companies into the public venue. WNSH durch Appletree Capital und seine Partner arbeiten derzeit an die mehrere solide private Unternehmen in der Öffentlichkeit Veranstaltungsort. From my discussion I had with the National Investment Banking Association(NIBA), these private companies are all profitable. Aus meiner Diskussion, die ich hatte mit der Nationalen Investment Banking Association (NIBA), die privaten Unternehmen sind alle profitabel. See posts below: Siehe Beiträge nachstehend:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2… Http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=21139259
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2… Http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=21132487

9. 9. Now this comment in the PR is something that is very very important that I think was very much a subliminal message as to how powerful WNSH will transform… Mr. Manzo went on to state, "We intend to use the same formula as Appletree Capital currently does in order to expose viable private companies to the public capital markets and to our venture capitalists." Jetzt diesen Kommentar in der PR ist etwas, das ist sehr, sehr wichtig, dass ich der Meinung war sehr unterschwellige Botschaft, wie leistungsfähig WNSH wird transformieren… Herr Manzo ging auf Staat, "Wir beabsichtigen, die gleiche Formel wie Appletree Capital derzeit Nicht in der Reihenfolge, um tragfähige private Unternehmen für die Öffentlichkeit Kapitalmärkte und unsere Risikokapitalgeber. " to get a better understanding of the magnitude of that comment, please read and understand the post below: Um ein besseres Verständnis für die Größenordnung der Kommentar, bitte lesen und zu verstehen, die nach unten:
http://investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=21087… Http://investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=21087663

10. 10. The same formula and innovative strategies for creating shareholder value as mentioned above and in the PR means what was stated in the post below: Das gleiche Formel und innovative Strategien für die Schaffung von Shareholder Value wie oben erwähnt, und in der PR bedeutet, was in der Post unter:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2… Http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=21159025

11. 11. A new website is in the process of being developed. Eine neue Website wird in den Prozess der entwickelt.

12. 12. WNSH and Appletree Capital are in the process of reviewing reverse merger candidates in which some of them are in the sectors of food, retail, consumer products, and financial firms. WNSH und Appletree Capital sind in den Prozess der Überprüfung umgekehrter Fusion Kandidaten, in der einige von ihnen sind in den Bereichen Lebensmittel, Einzelhandel, Konsumgüter, Finanzdienstleistungen und Unternehmen.

13. 13. Further updates will be forthcoming. Weitere Updates werden demnächst.

14. 14. It was recently thought that the Float was 400 million with the Outstanding Shares (OS) being 4 billion as the company has made known unofficially thus far that they have 90% of the OS which was part of the shares bought in the deal to obtain WNSH. Es wurde vor kurzem gedacht, dass die Float wurde 400 Millionen Euro mit dem Outstanding Aktien (OS), 4 Milliarden Euro, wie das Unternehmen bekannt gemacht inoffiziell so weit, dass sie über 90% des Betriebssystems, die im Rahmen der Aktien gekauft in der viel zu erhalten WNSH .

15. 15. The company has gotten confirmation of from the company’s Transfer Agent (TA) of a potential disparity in the numbers for the OS and the Float where the OS could be 3.6 billion which would mean that the Float is 360 million considering the Float has to be 10% of the 90% of WNSH bought by Appletree Capital to consummate the deal for Appletree Capital buying the controlling interest. Das Unternehmen ist mittlerweile die Bestätigung der von der Firma Transfer Agent (TA), einer möglichen Unterschiede in den Zahlen für das Betriebssystem und die Float, wenn das Betriebssystem könnten 3,6 Mrd., was bedeuten würde, dass die Float ist 360 Mio. unter Berücksichtigung der Float Zu 10% der 90% der WNSH gekauft von Appletree Capital zu absoluten die sich für den Kauf der Appletree Capital Controlling.

16. 16. The company is in the process of obtaining official confirmation and will release to the public ASAP as soon as their coordination between the DTC, TA, and Accountants is completed confirming which total is correct. Das Unternehmen ist in den Prozess der Beschaffung offizielle Bestätigung und Freigabe für die Öffentlichkeit ASAP so bald wie ihre Koordinierung zwischen den DTC, TA, und der Wirtschaftsprüfer wird bestätigt, die insgesamt korrekt ist.

17. 17. Still, the Float is anticipated to be zero as given the volume over the past few days, it is highly anticipated that there is no inventory of shares hence why many are expecting to see (a new term to me) a MOASS kick in. Noch, die Float wird erwartet, zu Null, wie die Lautstärke in den letzten Tagen, ist es äußerst erwartet, dass es keine Bestandsaufnahme der Aktie damit, warum so viele werden erwartet, um zu sehen (ein neuer Begriff für mich) eine MOASS Kick Zoll

The above is a quick synopsis of what I see as some realities and potential that exists in WNSH. Die oben ist eine schnelle Übersicht von dem, was ich sehe, wie einige Realitäten und das Potenzial, das in WNSH. I recommend all to read and please make your own decision as to the measure of potential you will wait for the company to transform into a reality. Ich empfehle alle zu lesen, und stellen Sie Ihre eigene Entscheidung, die Maßnahme von potentiellen Sie warten, für das Unternehmen zu verwandeln sich in der Realität.

Heck, I repeat… I am really trying not to get too excited, but from doing my research on many other stocks within the penny stock world, I don’t see anything else that is close to what is forming here with WNSH. Heck, ich wiederhole ... ich bin wirklich nicht zu versuchen, sich zu freuen, sondern von tun, meine Forschung auf viele andere Bestände innerhalb der Penny Lager Welt, sehe ich nicht, dass alles andere in der Nähe zu dem, was ist, die hier mit WNSH. Many things still have not been officially confirmed as a completed fact, but enough have been officially confirmed for me to take the risk. Viele Dinge noch nicht offiziell bestätigt, als Tatsache fertig, aber genug, wurden offiziell bestätigt für mich, das Risiko zu. Please do your due diligence (DD) to make sure you make an investing decision that you be at peace with yourself. Bitte nehmen Sie Ihren Due Diligence (DD), um sicherzustellen, dass sie eine Entscheidung zu investieren, dass Sie sich in Frieden mit euch.

Please help to show me how I am looking at any of these things wrong. Bitte helfen Sie mir zu zeigen, wie ich bin auf der Suche zu jedem dieser Dinge falsch. I wouldn’t want a repeat of some past situations as we all have moved on. Ich möchte nicht, dass eine Wiederholung der Vergangenheit einige Situationen, wie wir alle haben.

v/r / / F

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Re: OT-WNSH PR Re: OT - WNSH PR
« Reply #3 on Jul 15, 2007, 7:25pm » «Antwort # 3 am Jul 15, 2007, 7:25 Uhr»

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Posted by: stervc Veröffentlicht von: stervc
In reply to: VOIP-INTERFACE who wrote msg# 6577 Date:7/13/2007 3:21:09 PM In Antwort auf: VOIP - INTERFACE, schrieb Schreib # 6577 Datum: 7/13/2007 3:21:09 PM
Post #of 7052 Post # 7052

VOIP-INTERFACE (& ALL), with the news & update... VOIP - INTERFACE (& ALL), mit den Neuigkeiten & aktualisieren ...

Please help me to see something and correct me if I am looking at things wrong. Bitte helfen Sie mir etwas zu sehen, und korrigieren Sie mich, wenn ich die Dinge falsch.

VOIP, first, thanks for the update, but with the news, your update, and other things that "strongly" appears to be forming, please consider my thoughts below... VOIP, zuerst, vielen Dank für die Aktualisierung, aber mit den Nachrichten, das Update, und andere Dinge, die "stark" zu sein scheint, die, sollten Sie in Betracht ziehen meine Gedanken unten ...

1. 1. Old management is gone with new control by Appletree Capital Ltd. Alte ist weg mit neuen Kontrolle durch Appletree Capital Ltd

2. 2. New CEO and President is Francis Manzo with goals to turnaround WNSH which was basically stagnant. Neuer CEO und Präsident ist Francis Manzo mit Zielen zur Wende WNSH was im Grunde stagniert.

3. 3. The new CEO plans on creating shareholder value through innovative strategies (I think I understand his innovative strategies). Der neue CEO Pläne für die Schaffung von Shareholder Value durch innovative Strategien (Ich glaube, ich verstehe seine innovativen Strategien).

4. 4. The former CEO Mark Ellis has not only resigned from the company, but is no longer related or involved with the company. Der ehemalige CEO Mark Ellis hat sich nicht nur aus dem Unternehmen, ist aber nicht mehr oder im Zusammenhang mit der Firma.

5. 5. WNSH plans to change from a BDC to a Holding company format. WNSH Pläne zur Änderung von BDC zu einer Holding. This is why he couldn’t do a reverse split even if he wanted to from my understanding of what was mentioned. Dies ist der Grund, warum er nicht ein Reverse Split, selbst wenn er wollte aus meinem Verständnis von dem, was erwähnt wurde. The SEC won’t allow it although I am not wise on the logic. Die SEC wird es nicht zulassen, obwohl ich bin nicht klug auf der Logik.

6. 6. Still, in going from a BDC to a Holding Company format, the company will not have a need or plan to do a reverse split. Dennoch gibt es in die von BDC zu einer Holding Format, wird das Unternehmen nicht angeben müssen oder planen Sie, um eine Reverse Split.

7. 7. Instead of a reverse split, the company has already made it known that they are planning on retiring shares and buying back shares to reduce the Outstanding Shares (OS). Statt eines Reverse Split, das Unternehmen hat bereits darauf hingewiesen, dass sie sich auf den Ruhestand Aktien der Planung und dem Kauf eigener Aktien zur Verringerung der Outstanding Shares (OS).

8. 8. WNSH, through Appletree Capital and its partners are currently working on bringing multiple solid private companies into the public venue. WNSH durch Appletree Capital und seine Partner arbeiten derzeit an die mehrere solide private Unternehmen in der Öffentlichkeit Veranstaltungsort. From my discussion I had with the National Investment Banking Association(NIBA), these private companies are all profitable. Aus meiner Diskussion, die ich hatte mit der Nationalen Investment Banking Association (NIBA), die privaten Unternehmen sind alle profitabel. See posts below: Siehe Beiträge nachstehend:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2… Http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=21139259
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2… Http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=21132487

9. 9. Now this comment in the PR is something that is very very important that I think was very much a subliminal message as to how powerful WNSH will transform… Mr. Manzo went on to state, "We intend to use the same formula as Appletree Capital currently does in order to expose viable private companies to the public capital markets and to our venture capitalists." Jetzt diesen Kommentar in der PR ist etwas, das ist sehr, sehr wichtig, dass ich der Meinung war sehr unterschwellige Botschaft, wie leistungsfähig WNSH wird transformieren… Herr Manzo ging auf Staat, "Wir beabsichtigen, die gleiche Formel wie Appletree Capital derzeit Nicht in der Reihenfolge, um tragfähige private Unternehmen für die Öffentlichkeit Kapitalmärkte und unsere Risikokapitalgeber. " to get a better understanding of the magnitude of that comment, please read and understand the post below: Um ein besseres Verständnis für die Größenordnung der Kommentar, bitte lesen und zu verstehen, die nach unten:
http://investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=21087… Http://investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=21087663

10. 10. The same formula and innovative strategies for creating shareholder value as mentioned above and in the PR means what was stated in the post below: Das gleiche Formel und innovative Strategien für die Schaffung von Shareholder Value wie oben erwähnt, und in der PR bedeutet, was in der Post unter:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2… Http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=21159025

11. 11. A new website is in the process of being developed. Eine neue Website wird in den Prozess der entwickelt.

12. 12. WNSH and Appletree Capital are in the process of reviewing reverse merger candidates in which some of them are in the sectors of food, retail, consumer products, and financial firms. WNSH und Appletree Capital sind in den Prozess der Überprüfung umgekehrter Fusion Kandidaten, in der einige von ihnen sind in den Bereichen Lebensmittel, Einzelhandel, Konsumgüter, Finanzdienstleistungen und Unternehmen.

13. 13. Further updates will be forthcoming. Weitere Updates werden demnächst.

14. 14. It was recently thought that the Float was 400 million with the Outstanding Shares (OS) being 4 billion as the company has made known unofficially thus far that they have 90% of the OS which was part of the shares bought in the deal to obtain WNSH. Es wurde vor kurzem gedacht, dass die Float wurde 400 Millionen Euro mit dem Outstanding Aktien (OS), 4 Milliarden Euro, wie das Unternehmen bekannt gemacht inoffiziell so weit, dass sie über 90% des Betriebssystems, die im Rahmen der Aktien gekauft in der viel zu erhalten WNSH .

15. 15. The company has gotten confirmation of from the company’s Transfer Agent (TA) of a potential disparity in the numbers for the OS and the Float where the OS could be 3.6 billion which would mean that the Float is 360 million considering the Float has to be 10% of the 90% of WNSH bought by Appletree Capital to consummate the deal for Appletree Capital buying the controlling interest. Das Unternehmen ist mittlerweile die Bestätigung der von der Firma Transfer Agent (TA), einer möglichen Unterschiede in den Zahlen für das Betriebssystem und die Float, wenn das Betriebssystem könnten 3,6 Mrd., was bedeuten würde, dass die Float ist 360 Mio. unter Berücksichtigung der Float Zu 10% der 90% der WNSH gekauft von Appletree Capital zu absoluten die sich für den Kauf der Appletree Capital Controlling.

16. 16. The company is in the process of obtaining official confirmation and will release to the public ASAP as soon as their coordination between the DTC, TA, and Accountants is completed confirming which total is correct. Das Unternehmen ist in den Prozess der Beschaffung offizielle Bestätigung und Freigabe für die Öffentlichkeit ASAP so bald wie ihre Koordinierung zwischen den DTC, TA, und der Wirtschaftsprüfer wird bestätigt, die insgesamt korrekt ist.

17. 17. Still, the Float is anticipated to be zero as given the volume over the past few days, it is highly anticipated that there is no inventory of shares hence why many are expecting to see (a new term to me) a MOASS kick in. Noch, die Float wird erwartet, zu Null, wie die Lautstärke in den letzten Tagen, ist es äußerst erwartet, dass es keine Bestandsaufnahme der Aktie damit, warum so viele werden erwartet, um zu sehen (ein neuer Begriff für mich) eine MOASS Kick Zoll

The above is a quick synopsis of what I see as some realities and potential that exists in WNSH. Die oben ist eine schnelle Übersicht von dem, was ich sehe, wie einige Realitäten und das Potenzial, das in WNSH. I recommend all to read and please make your own decision as to the measure of potential you will wait for the company to transform into a reality. Ich empfehle alle zu lesen, und stellen Sie Ihre eigene Entscheidung, die Maßnahme von potentiellen Sie warten, für das Unternehmen zu verwandeln sich in der Realität.

Heck, I repeat… I am really trying not to get too excited, but from doing my research on many other stocks within the penny stock world, I don’t see anything else that is close to what is forming here with WNSH. Heck, ich wiederhole ... ich bin wirklich nicht zu versuchen, sich zu freuen, sondern von tun, meine Forschung auf viele andere Bestände innerhalb der Penny Lager Welt, sehe ich nicht, dass alles andere in der Nähe zu dem, was ist, die hier mit WNSH. Many things still have not been officially confirmed as a completed fact, but enough have been officially confirmed for me to take the risk. Viele Dinge noch nicht offiziell bestätigt, als Tatsache fertig, aber genug, wurden offiziell bestätigt für mich, das Risiko zu. Please do your due diligence (DD) to make sure you make an investing decision that you be at peace with yourself. Bitte nehmen Sie Ihren Due Diligence (DD), um sicherzustellen, dass sie eine Entscheidung zu investieren, dass Sie sich in Frieden mit euch.

Please help to show me how I am looking at any of these things wrong. Bitte helfen Sie mir zu zeigen, wie ich bin auf der Suche zu jedem dieser Dinge falsch. I wouldn’t want a repeat of some past situations as we all have moved on. Ich möchte nicht, dass eine Wiederholung der Vergangenheit einige Situationen, wie wir alle haben.

v/r / / F
Sterling Sterling

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Posted by: monkey123
In reply to: None Date:11/8/2007 3:43:53 PM
Post #of 30625

E-Mail from Frank:

This is all he can talk about right now, all other topics are off the table. I fought to get info so please don't push it.

I asked him: That the board wanted to see if there was any kind of update or good news he could offer?
***************************************************************

There's nothing to offer. Not until we get back into compliance. We need to clear up the SEC mess Mark Ellis made. No company would want to merge with this shell as it is.

We are talking with a small pharma company that wants a shell. Another is entertainment related. Another is a oil drilling and well program. Maybe Byers Food as a fall back. There will be something!

Frank

[KANTER]

Einen schönen 1. Advent wünsch ich allen Investierten!!

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.640.622 von KANTER am 02.12.07 16:20:27

Und einen schönen 2. Advent wünsch ich auch!!!!

[KANTER]

Here\'s an email I received from Frank today. Enjoy:


From: \"Francis Manzo\" <[e-mail]> View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
To: \"xxxxxxxx\" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: WNSH
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:20:45 -0800

Just waiting on the CPA\'s to finish the financials. Have a acquisition planned after the new year with an announcement.----- Original Message -----
From: xxxxxxxx
To: Francis Manzo
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 11:59 AM
Subject: WNSH


Frank-

Is everything still on track with WNSH? Filings? RM? Buyback? When can we expect some news?

Thanks for all your help!

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.724.308 von KANTER am 11.12.07 11:35:07

Posted by: playerguy
In reply to: jasonswfl1 who wrote msg# 31381 Date:12/14/2007 10:45:26 AM
Post #of 31394

From: Francis Manzo
To: xxx
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Winsted Holdings, Inc


Regarding all past PR's, I did say to forget those from the Mark Ellis era. They do not apply now. The value of Winsted will be what this company becomes, not what it is. Right now it's a shell with no assets, and if it wasn't for me no chance of going anywhere. I'm the one advancing funds for the audit, accounting, legal status, and transfer agent. What I turn it into and the businesses that it acquires will create the value in the stock. Nothing more needs to be said!

[KANTER]

Nothing more needs to be said!

[KANTER]

Postbank: Dollar wird wieder stärker
20.12.2007 | 11:18


Der Dollar wird im kommenden Jahr gegenüber dem Euro erstmals seit fünf Jahren wieder an Wert gewinnen.

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.780.471 von KANTER am 16.12.07 10:40:27

In diesem Sinne,einen schönen 4.Advent und ein frohes Fest!!

[KANTER]

Posted by: carnelsonG
In reply to: None Date:1/6/2008 11:20:17 AM
Post #of 31778

Email from Frank


The accountant/auditor expanded the testing on the financials as a result of previous managements activities. We're still on track to get WNSH into a reporting situation as we do have acquisition candidates for merge.

----- Original Message -----
From: [e-mail]
To: [e-mail]
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 2:37 AM
Subject: any news?

[oski]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.960.661 von KANTER am 06.01.08 17:45:00

hallo kanter
frohe neues jahr
denke mitte januar wird das volumen stetig zunehmen wie ich das vom Ihub entnehme.

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.961.787 von oski am 06.01.08 19:31:17

Hi oski


Danke,dir auch alles Gute fürs jahr 2008!!!

So wies ausschaut benötigt Frank doch etwas länger um aus dieser ehemals Mistbude wieder eine investattraktive Firma zu machen


Gruß Kanter

[oski]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 32.962.039 von KANTER am 06.01.08 20:15:58

ja das wird ein harter brocken arbeit bin aber guten mutes

[KANTER]

Posted by: ucantfoolmee
In reply to: playerguy who wrote msg# 31836 Date:1/8/2008 5:06:54 PM
Post #of 31842

I emailed FM today and he responded, FWIW.




From: Francis Manzo <[e-mail]>
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2008 3:58:25 PM
Subject: Re: wnsh

The accountant/auditor expanded the testing on the financials as a result of previous managements activities. The bank is sending the records early next week. We're still on track to get WNSH into a reporting situation as we do have acquisition candidates for merge. As soon as the audit is completed we'll announce some news.
----- Original Message -----
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: Francis Manzo
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: wnsh

Mr. Manzo,
I was wondering if you had an update on when we might see some news.

Sincerely,
xxxx xxxxxxx

[KANTER]

Posted by: sippinpurp
In reply to: ucantfoolmee who wrote msg# 31839 Date:1/8/2008 5:13:38 PM
Post #of 31842

I also had an email exchange with Frank today. He never told me to keep his replies to myself so here it is:


From: "Francis Manzo" <[e-mail]> View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
To: "xxxxxxxx" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: WNSH
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 13:31:47 -0800

Just that it's taking longer than I would of liked. But an audit is at the speed of the auditor. Something will come of it, for sure! No delivery date from the auditors, but that's expected.
----- Original Message -----
From: xxxxxxxx
To: Francis Manzo
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: WNSH


Thanks Frank. Your tone seems to have changed. Are you still confident something will come of this? If so, what are the accountants giving you as a timeline these days?

Francis Manzo <[e-mail]> wrote:

Basically Mark Ellis took out over a million dollars in salary, and we've got to document everything for the audit. The accountant expanded the scope of the audit, so that's why it's taking some time to complete it. Besides, I have never read the message boards, and really don't care what may be posted. All I know is I got to clean-up WNSH, and that's what I'm trying to do.
----- Original Message -----
From: xxxxxxxxx
To: Francis Manzo
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 12:38 PM
Subject: WNSH


Frank-

Haven't heard from you in a while and I'm sure you're tired of receiving emails from nagging investors, but are we still on track for financials, acquisition, etc? What kind of acquisition are we talking about?

There was a message posted on a board that claimed there have been some roadblocks and perhaps all is lost. The poster claimed to have received an email from you. I also noticed a couple of your staunchest supporters are beginning to question what's going on.

Now, I know message boards are to be taken with a grain of salt, but it's all we have sometimes. I just want to hear it straight from you, and if you want me to keep any info you give me off those boards, I will.

Thanks Frank.

xxxxxx

[KANTER]

letzte Mail vor dem Announcement?????



Posted by: sippinpurp
In reply to: None Date:1/29/2008 4:05:40 PM
Post #of 32149

New email from Frank. Sounds like we're about there:

From: "Francis Manzo" <[e-mail]> Add Mobile Alert
To: "xxxxxxxxx" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: WNSH
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 02:54:25 -0600

Almost done! In discussions with potential merger candidates.

----- Original Message -----
From: xxxxxxxxx
To: Francis Manzo
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: WNSH


Frank-

Just checking in. How are the audits coming? Are we almost there? Are there still merger candidates interested? Thanks for all your hard work!

[oski]

morgen kanter
asien?

[investor_2005]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.209.080 von oski am 30.01.08 07:21:45

was macht die Firma überhaupt?
Die HP scheint leer zu sein

[Schnatzi]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.208.173 von KANTER am 29.01.08 22:44:21

Heißt im Klartext, da könnte bald eine MergerMeldung kommen.?

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.210.860 von Schnatzi am 30.01.08 10:54:54

Heißt nicht könnte sondern wird!!


Erst die Financials und dann der Acqiusition bzw. Merger!

[investor_2005]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.211.643 von KANTER am 30.01.08 11:52:48

Erst die Financials und dann der Acqiusition bzw. Merger!

Hi!


Was passiert immer bei der Acqiusition / Merger?

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.209.789 von investor_2005 am 30.01.08 09:23:16

Tread lesen,steht alles drin!!

HP ist übrigens nicht leer!! Siehe die ersten Posts!!

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.211.693 von investor_2005 am 30.01.08 11:56:29

Merger:


Merger steht für Unternehmenszusammenführung, Fusion, Verschmelzung "unter Gleichen".


Acqiusition:

Eine Unternehmensübernahme wird definiert als das Erlangen von Kontrolle über ein Unternehmen. Unter Kontrolle kann die Befugnis zur Festlegung der Ziele und Bestimmung der Geschäftspolitik verstanden werden. Aus den marktwirtschaftlichen Prinzipien der Autonomie und des Privateigentums ergibt sich, dass die Kontrolle den Eigentümern zusteht.

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.209.080 von oski am 30.01.08 07:21:45

Hi oski,

nee,war wohl doch ne Mail aus den USA,allerdings evtl aus Hawaii!!??

[KANTER]

Vielleicht mal in dem Zusammenhang erwähnenswert, das sich ein User bei der SEC über Winsted Holdings informiert hat.Es wird ja immer aufgrund der wirklich miesen Vergangenheit unter Ellis von einem SCAM gesprochen.Hier mal kurz zusammengefasst:


Der Schwindel rund um Winsted, Ellis wird weiterhin untersucht.Alle Transaktionen werden vom Landgericht Illinois untersucht und soweit ich das mitbekommen habe werden auch sogenannte Opfer zum Aussagen bewogen. Francis Manzo,der jetzige Ceo ist in diese ganze Sache allerdings nicht involviertIch geh also mal davon aus,das was bisher von Manzo an Aktivitäten zu sehen war,seine gesamten Filings um WNSH in eine Berichtssituation zurückzubringen,alles mit geregelten Dingen zugegangen ist und er unter Beobachtung seitens der SEC weiß und er einen Teufel zun wird es Ellis gleichzutun.

[KANTER]

Moin moin,


ich wette ja nich,jedenfalls nich mehr,aber ich vermute mal ganz stark, das wir nächste Woche entweder hinsichtlich der Financials oder der Aquisekandidaten was erfahren werden


Schönes WE!!!

[KANTER]

email from Frank today:

----- Original Message -----
From: Francis Manzo
To: xxx
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: Winsted Holdings, Inc


This cleaning up of the financial statement from previous management is time
consuming and will be completed sometime soon. I took over a mess!

It is not advisable at this time to issue a PR until the company is back into full reporting condition.

[KANTER]

Def 14c increasing the AS to
60,000,000,000,000

UNITED STATES
SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Washington, D.C. 20549

SCHEDULE 14C INFORMATION

Information Statement Pursuant to Section
14(c) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934
(Amendment No. )

Check the appropriate box:

[x] Preliminary Information Statement

[ ] Confidential, for Use of the Commission
only (as permitted by Rule 14c-5 d) (2))

[ ] Definitive Information Statement

WINSTED HOLDINGS, INC.
(Name of Registrant As
Specified in Charter)

Payment of Filing Fee (Check the appropriate
box):

[x] No Fee required.

[ ] Fee computed on table below per Exchange
Act Rules 14c-5(g) and 0-11.

(1) Title of each class of securities to which transaction applies:

(2) Aggregate number of securities to which transaction applies:

(3) Per unit price or other underlying value of transaction computed pursuant to Exchange Act Rule 0-11 (set forth the amount on which the filing fee is calculated and state how it was determined):

(4)Proposed maximum aggregate value of transaction:

(5)Total fee paid:

[ ] Fee paid previously with
preliminary materials.

[ ] Check box if any part of the fee
is offset as provided by Exchange Act
Rule 0-11(a)(2) and identify the
filing for which the offsetting fee
was paid previously. Identify the
previous filing by registration
statement number, or the Form or
Schedule and the date of its filing.

(1) Amount Previously Paid:
(2) Form, Schedule or Registration Statement No.:
(3) Filing Party:
(4) Date Filed:

1
WINSTED HOLDINGS,

INC.
c/o: APPLETREE CAPITAL LTD.


ONE NORTHFIELD PLAZA,


SUITE 300


NORTHFIELD, IL


60093

Dear Stockholders:

We are writing to advise you that we intend to amend our Articles of
Incorporation to increase our authorized shares of Common Stock, par value $.001 per share, to 60,000,000,000,000 shares. This action was approved on February 27, 2008 by our Board of Directors. In addition,
shareholders who hold a majority of our
issued and outstanding voting securities also approved this action on February 27, 2008, by written consent in lieu of a
special meeting in accordance with in
accordance with the relevant sections of the Florida Revised Statutes.

The amendment to our Articles of Incorporation increasing the number of our authorized shares of common stock will not be effective until after we file Articles of Amendment to our Articles of Incorporation with the Florida Secretary of State. We
intend to file the Articles of Amendment 20 days after the date this information
statement is first mailed to our
stockholders.

WE ARE NOT ASKING YOU FOR A PROXY, AND


YOU ARE REQUESTED NOT TO SEND US A PROXY.

No action is required by you. The
accompanying information statement is
furnished only to inform our stockholders of the actions described above before they take place in accordance with Rule 14c-2 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934.

Please feel free to call us at 847-441- 1822 should you have any questions on the enclosed Information Statement. We thank you for your continued interest in Winsted
Holdings, Inc.

For the Board of Directors of

Winsted Holdings, Inc.

By:


/s/ Francis P. Manzo III
----
------------------




Francis P. Manzo III

President/Director

WINSTED HOLDINGS, INC.
c/o: APPLETREE CAPITAL LTD.
ONE NORTHFIELD PLAZA, SUITE 300
NORTHFIELD, IL 60093

INFORMATION STATEMENT REGARDING
ACTION TO BE TAKEN BY WRITTEN CONSENT OF
MAJORITY STOCKHOLDERS
IN LIEU OF A SPECIAL MEETING

WE ARE NOT ASKING YOU FOR A PROXY, AND
YOU ARE REQUESTED NOT TO SEND US A PROXY.

GENERAL

This Information Statement is being furnished to the stockholders of Winsted Holdings, Inc. to provide you with
information and a description of an action taken by written consent of the holder of a majority of our issued and outstanding
voting securities in lieu of a special
meeting on February 27, 2008 in accordance with the relevant sections of the Florida Statues Section 607.1006. This action was taken by one stockholder who individually owns in excess of the required majority of our outstanding voting securities necessary for the adoption of this action.

The elimination of the need for a
meeting of stockholders to approve this
action is made possible by the Florida
Statutes which provides that the written consent of the holders of outstanding shares of voting capital stock, having not less than the minimum number of votes which would be necessary to authorize or take such
action at a meeting at which all shares
entitled to vote thereon were present and voted, may be substituted for such a
meeting. In order to eliminate the costs involved in holding a special meeting, our Board of Directors voted to utilize the
written consent of the holder of a majority in interest of our voting securities.

Our voting securities are comprised of our common stock, our Series A Preferred stock and our Class B Preferred stock. The holders of our shares of common stock are entitled to one vote for each outstanding share on all matters submitted to our
shareholders. Each share of Class A and
Class B Preferred Stock is entitled to 20 and 10 votes respectively, on all matters submitted to our stockholders for a vote, and both classes of these securities vote together as one class.

As of February 27, 2008, there were 3,620,241,722 shares of our common stock, 200,000,000 shares of our Class A Preferred Stock, and 50,000,000 shares of our Class B Preferred Stock issued and outstanding.
These three classes of securities represent all of our voting securities. Each share of common stock is entitled to one vote, and each share of Class A and Class B Preferred Stock is entitled to 20 and 10 votes
respectively, on all matters submitted to our stockholders for a vote, and both
classes of these securities vote together as one class.

On February 27, 2008, Appletree Capital Ltd. ("Appletree"), which owns in the
aggregate 41 shares of our common stock and 200,000,000 shares of our Class A Preferred Stock, and 50,000,000 shares of our Class B Preferred Stock, giving effective voting control to the transactions described below, approved these actions by written consent. Francis P. Manzo III, our president and sole Director, is the sole officer, director and beneficial owner of Appletree.

The entire cost of furnishing this
Information Statement will be borne by the Company. We will request brokerage houses, nominees, custodians, fiduciaries and other like parties to forward this Information Statement to the beneficial owners of our voting securities held of record by them and we will reimburse such persons for out-of- pocket expenses incurred in forwarding such material.

No dissenters' rights under Florida law are afforded to our stockholders as result of the taking of the corporate actions
described in this information statement.

OUR PRINCIPAL


STOCKHOLDERS

Our voting securities are comprised of our common stock, our Series A Preferred stock and our Class B Preferred stock. The holders of our shares of common stock are entitled to one vote for each outstanding share on all matters submitted to our
shareholders. Each share of Class A and
Class B Preferred Stock is entitled to 20 and 10 votes respectively, on all matters submitted to our stockholders for a vote, and both classes of these securities vote together as one class. The following table contains information regarding record
ownership of our voting stock as of February 27, 2008 held by:

* persons who own beneficially more than 5% of our outstanding voting securities,

* our directors,

* named executive officers, and

* all of our directors and officers as a group.

THE AMENDMENT

On February 27, 2008 we had
3,620,241,722 authorized shares of our
common stock outstanding. Currently, there are 5,000,000,000 shares of common stock authorized. There are also 250,000,000
shares of Preferred authorized, which amount includes 200,000,000 issued and outstanding shares of Series A Preferred stock, and
50,000,000 issued and outstanding shares of Series B Preferred stock.

We have realized, in the evaluation of various merger and acquisition candidates that, given our limited amount of cash, we would need additional authorized shares to complete a merger or acquisition utilizing our shares. Therefore, we decided to
authorize additional shares at this time to position the Company to take quick advantage of opportunities that may arise and to avoid the delay and expense of authorizing
additional shares at a later date in
connection with an acquisition. This
increase in authorized shares will empower our board of directors under certain
circumstances to issue the additional shares without prior notice to our shareholders and without their approval.

The Amendment will not affect your
stock ownership in any way. The issuance of additional common stock, however, will
decrease your percentage of ownership of the Company.

WHERE YOU CAN OBTAIN


ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

We are required to file annual,
quarterly and special reports, proxy
statements and other information with the SEC. You may read and copy any document we file at the SEC's public reference rooms at 100 F Street, N.E, Washington, D.C. 20549. You may also obtain copies of the documents at prescribed rates by writing to the Public Reference Section of the SEC at 100 F
Street, N.E., Room 1580, Washington, D.C. 20549. Please call the SEC at 1-800-SEC-0330 for more information on the operation of the public reference rooms. Copies of our SEC filings are also available to the public from the SEC's web site at www.sec.gov.

EXHIBIT A

ARTICLES OF AMENDMENT
TO ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION
OF
WINSTED HOLDINGS, INC.

Pursuant to the Florida Statutes Section 607.1006 of the State of Florida, the
undersigned, being the President of WINSTED HOLDINGS, INC., a corporation organized and existing under the laws of the State of
Florida (the "Corporation"), bearing file number P04000003018, does hereby certify that the following resolutions were adopted pursuant to the authority of the Board of Directors and the holder of a majority of the Corporation's issued and outstanding voting securities as required by the Florida Revised Statutes:

RESOLVED, that the Board of
Directors and the holder of a majority of the Corporation's issued and outstanding voting securities, in accordance with
applicable Florida law, hereby increases the number of the Corporation's authorized
shares of Common Stock, par value $.001 per share, from 5,000,000,000 shares to
60,000,000,000 shares; and be it

FURTHER RESOLVED that the
Corporation shall file Articles of Amendment to its Articles of Incorporation reflecting such increase and directs that the required Article - Capital Stock - of the Articles of Incorporation of the Corporation be deleted in its entirety and substituted with the following:

ARTICLE VI - CAPITAL STOCK:

Section 1. Authorized Shares. The total number of shares which this
Corporation is authorized to issue is
60,000,000,000 shares of Capital Stock at $.001 par value per share.

(a)The total number or shares of Common Stock which this Corporation is authorized to issue is 60,000,000,000 shares at $.001 par value per share.

Unless specifically amended hereby, all other provisions Article IV of the
Corporation's Articles of Incorporation, as amended through the date hereof, remain
unchanged and in full force and effect.

The foregoing resolutions and
Articles of Amendment were adopted by the Board of Directors of the Corporation
pursuant to a written consent of the sole director of the Corporation dated February 27, 2008 in accordance with the Florida
Statutes, and by the holder of such number of shares of the Corporation's voting
securities in excess of number necessary for adoption of this action pursuant to a
written consent dated February 27, 2008 in accordance the Florida Statutes.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the undersigned Sole Director of Winsted Holding, Inc. has executed these Articles of Amendment on
behalf of the Corporation on this 27th day of February, 2008.

WINSTED


HOLDINGS, INC


By: /s/
Francis P.
Manzo III
--------------
------
Francis P.
Manzo III,
President and
Director

[Schnatzi]

Was hälst Du von dem Filing?

[KANTER]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.499.988 von Schnatzi am 28.02.08 09:58:20

Kann ich dir nich sagen Schnatzi,dafür weiß ich zu wenig was damit passieren soll. Es besteht aber die Möglichkeit,das er den AS erhöht hat für die Spinn offs, welche mit hoffentlich restricted Shares aus dem AS beglichen bzw. bezahlt werden sollen. Abwarten!

[Schnatzi]

Also heißt es erstmal abwarten...

[KANTER]

Winsted Holdings, Inc. Signs Letter of Intent to Acquire a Majority Interest in MultiCom One, Inc.
Winsted Holdings, Inc. Signs Letter of Intent to Acquire a Majority Interest in MultiCom One, Inc.
Monday March 10, 2008
Northfield, Ill. Winsted Holdings, Inc. (OTC:WNSH) signed a Letter of Intent to acquire a majority interest in MultiCom One, Inc. ("MCOI"), a Diversified Telecommunications company
specializing in providing 4th generation communications capabilities including fixed and mobile WiMAX broadband solutions and various IP applications to residential, small and medium businesses, home land security and public safety organizations, schools, local and state
governments, with a core focus on the hospitality, condominium, and planned community segments. Winsted CEO Frank Manzo stated, "I am excited that we are beginning to execute our contemplated business plan and that the first Company to announce is one that has timely and exciting possibilities in the telecommunications field. MCOI has audited net assets of $2.0 million and has presented an exciting business plan to us. This is the first transaction for the Company and there are several other transactions currently being evaluated by the Company. This opportunity is directly related to our intention to broaden our business plan with respect to incubating emerging private companies thereby enhancing shareholder value."
Fred Grant, CEO of MultiCom One, Inc. commented, "I'm delighted to be working hand and hand with Winsted's management. Once the merger is complete, we will begin a rapid expansion of the Company's presence in various Telecom and Hospitality sectors".
Founded in 1998 the officers, principals and Board Members of MOCI have been in the forefront of the wireless and telecommunications industry since 1965, with significant senior management experience in a variety of Fortune 500
communications and technology sector companies." Mr. Manzo went on to state, "The Letter of Intent is conditional upon definitive agreements to be negotiated and I would hope that we can reach a final agreement in the near future."
Winsted Holdings Inc. intends to be a Leader in incubating and developing private companies ultimately spinning them off to shareholders and enhancing shareholder value in the Company. "Safe Harbor" Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:
This release includes forward-looking statements intended to qualify for the safe harbor from liability established by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward- looking statements generally can be identified by phrases such as WNSH or its management "believes," "expects," "anticipates," "foresees," "forecasts," "estimates" or other words or phrases of similar import. Similarly, statements in this release that describe the Company's business strategy, outlook, objectives, plans, intentions or goals also are forward-looking statements. All such forward- looking statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in forward-looking statements.

Contact:
Winsted Holdings, Inc. Northfield, Illinois Frank Manzo, CEO, 847-441-1822

[Schnatzi]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.609.644 von KANTER am 11.03.08 15:57:05

Ein Lebenszeichen... Juhu...

[Saftladen]

[Schnatzi]

200% gestern... Umsatz ist ok... Bin mal gespannt wie es heute weitergeht... Was meint ihr? Sehen wir den Dollar?

[poppele]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.615.863 von Schnatzi am 12.03.08 08:43:55

aber die 0,05 in kürze,das wäre schon schön

Viel Glück Euch allen,bin schon lange dabei

Poppele

[Schnatzi]

Gestern zum Schluss nochmal hoch... Umsatz ist ein wenig besser... mal sehen was heute so kommt.... Wäre genial, wenn sie mal so richtig abgeht...

[KANTER]

Posted by: sippinpurp
In reply to: TBS04 who wrote msg# 33721 Date:3/31/2008 12:52:52 PM
Post #of 33762

Heard from Frank today via email.

Apparently they have to restate the 10Q's from the 1st and 2nd quarters of 2006 because they weren't done correctly the first time. He did say they were working on it "this week", so I'm not sure if they expect to be done by the end of the week or what. He also said they have acquisitions in mind to bring assets into the shell.

[poppele]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 33.776.820 von KANTER am 01.04.08 13:30:29

Da bin ich mal gespannt,wie es weiter geht!


UUUUUUUPPPPPPPPPPPPPP



Poppele

[Schnatzi]

Ich glaub hier wird es mal Zeit für einen schönen Anstieg!

[poppele]

Das sind aber gute Aussichten

Posted by: Smeagle Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:06:16 PM
In reply to: None Post # of 34866

Straight from Frank...financial audits won't be done until after end of 2008. Also created energy subsidiary. See emails below (read them from bottom up).




Sure, share with the other shareholders. Created an energy subsidiary to acquire oil and gas production.. Working on arranging for a small line of credit to start energy purchases.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Curtis" <Cxxxxxxxx>
To: "Francis Manzo" <[e-mail]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: question


> Thanks for your quick reply.
>
> Sorry, I don't see where in 8K of May 2, 2008 that it specifically states that audit will not be done until 2008 is over, but it's nice to know. Can we expect to hear something after Q1 of 2009 then? Can I share your response with other shareholders?
>
> Thanks again. Looking forward to when things get on-track. I've been a shareholder since back when Ellis was in and it's nice to see things moving ahead.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Curtis
>
> Francis Manzo wrote:
>> Please read the last 8-K issued regarding the audit. Will not be able to audit until 2007 and 2008 years are complete..
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curtis" <Cxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <[e-mail]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:30 AM
>> Subject: question
>>
>>
>>> Hi Frank
>>>
>>> Has there been any movement in regards to the company's books being audited by an independent accounting firm? If an independent accounting firm has been acquired, what is the name of the accounting firm?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any information you can provide.
>>>
>>> Curtis

Poppele

[Schnatzi]

Guten Morgen...

hey wann geht hier mal wieder was.?

[poppele]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.360.406 von Schnatzi am 24.06.08 11:11:18

ich denke das kann sehr schnell gehen,bleibe auf jeden fall drinn


es ist wie ein puverfass,dann gibts aber halooooooooooooooooo peng

bis dann poppele

[ebihard1]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.360.406 von Schnatzi am 24.06.08 11:11:18

gut ding braucht weile.die könnte schon bei 0,02 sein

oooodddddeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[Schnatzi]

Hoffentlich geht hier bald mal wieder was!?

[poppele]

Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.468.140 von Schnatzi am 09.07.08 10:52:46

3 DAYS to finish BUY-BACK - don't forget FRANK! 3 Tage zu beenden Buy-Back - vergessen Sie nicht, Frank!
You PR'ed last July 25th a buyback of 360 million shares within ONE YEAR .... Sie PR'ed vergangenen 25. Juli ein Rückkauf von 360 Millionen Aktien innerhalb eines Jahres .... that ends FRIDAY.... FREITAG, an deren Ende .... better go buy them .... lieber gehen sie kaufen .... mine are for sale for $20 each please LOL Minen sind für den Verkauf für $ 20 je bitte LOL

Here is the PR from July 25, 2007 LAST YEAR: Hier ist die PR von 25. Juli 2007 im vergangenen Jahr:
----------------------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------
Winsted Holdings and Appletree BDC Begin Share Buyback Program and Issue Clarification Winsted Holdings und Appletree BDC beginnt Aktienrückkauf-Programm und das Problem Klarstellung


Winsted Holdings, Inc. (Pink Sheets:WNSH) and Appletree BDC Inc. announce a share buyback program effective today. Winsted Holdings, Inc. (Pink Sheets: WNSH) und Appletree BDC Inc. Ankündigung eines Aktienrückkaufprogramms wirksame heute.

President and CEO Francis Manzo stated, “In the interest of creating shareholder value, Winsted Holdings announces its first share buyback program. Präsident und CEO von Francis Manzo erklärte: "Im Interesse der Schaffung von Shareholder Value, Winsted Holdings kündigt seine erste Aktienrückkaufprogramm abgeschlossen. The company plans on buying back up to 360,000,000 shares in the open market, to be completed over the next year. Das Unternehmen plant den Kauf zurück bis zu 360000000 Aktien auf dem offenen Markt, soll im Laufe des nächsten Jahres. However, it can be completed at any time during the effective period starting today. Aber es kann jederzeit während der effektiven beginnenden heute. The repurchased shares will be retired from the outstanding to the company treasury.” Winsted reiterates that the company’s former CEO Mark Ellis is no longer involved with the company, nor controls any shares, common, or preferred. Die zurückgekauften Aktien werden im Ruhestand aus den ausstehenden an das Unternehmen Schatzkammer. "Winsted bekräftigt, dass die Unternehmen der ehemaligen CEO Mark Ellis ist nicht mehr mit der Firma, noch steuert alle Aktien, gemeinsame oder bevorzugt. Appletree now controls all preferred shares. Appletree nun kontrolliert alle Vorzugsaktien. Additionally, in keeping with the strategy of Winsted being a business incubator, the company plans no 504 registrations, or other dilutive capital raising programs. Zusätzlich wird im Einklang mit der Strategie der Winsted, ein Gründerzentrum, plant das Unternehmen keine 504-Registrierungen oder sonstige verwässernde Kapitalbeschaffung Programme. Also, no reverse splits are planned due to both managements direction for the company and the SEC’s investigation of the former management’s potential violation of Section 23 of the 1940 Act, in this regard. Auch kein Reverse Splits sind geplant aufgrund beide Geschäftsleitungen Richtung für das Unternehmen und die SEC-Untersuchung des ehemaligen Managements mögliche Verstöße gegen § 23 des Gesetzes 1940, in dieser Hinsicht.


imho IMHO

[Schnatzi]

Hoffentlich geht hier bald mal die Post ab!

[poppele]

ich denke daß es nicht mehr lange geht zumindest kann mann bei dem kurs kein geld verbraten.
sollte bis zum herbst eine pr kommen dann macht es aber kkkkaabbbuuummm
ich kann warten

poppele

[poppele]

Here's the News from the SEC site:

SEC Charges Microcap Companies and Individuals for Improperly Raising Millions in Capital While Harming Investors
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
2008-169
Washington, D.C., Aug. 7, 2008 — The Securities and Exchange Commission has charged six microcap companies, four company officers and several market professionals for their roles in a scheme to raise millions of dollars in capital through improperly registered stocks to fund the companies' struggling businesses.


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Additional Materials
Litigation Release No. 20673
Complaint v. Angel Acquisition Corp., et al.
Complaint v. Global Materials & Services, Inc., et al.
Administrative Proceeding No. 33-8950
Administrative Proceeding No. 33-8951 and Order

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In four separate enforcement actions, the SEC alleged that these public offerings dumped billions of shares on the market through so-called employee stock option programs. These share offerings were improperly registered on Form S-8, which is a simplified registration statement used for compensating employees and consultants. In fact, the programs functioned as public offerings in which the companies used their employees as conduits to the market so that they could raise capital without complying with the securities laws. They then received at least 85% of the proceeds from the shares' sales as payment for the options' exercise price. The SEC further alleged that one of the companies, Global Materials & Services, Inc., and its former officer, Stephen J. Owens, committed securities fraud when they issued shares to sham consultants who then kicked back over 60% of the shares' sales proceeds to Owens and his other businesses.

"In bringing these charges, the Commission is sending the clear message that it will not only aggressively pursue companies that violate the registration provisions, but also the gatekeepers who provide a roadmap for violating these provisions," said George Curtis, Deputy Director of the SEC's Division of Enforcement.

Merri Jo Gillette, Regional Director of the Chicago Regional Office, added, "Form S-8 offerings, when used legitimately, give companies a streamlined method of compensating employees with stock. The Commission's actions allege that the defendants abused this offering process to sell stock to the general public without providing necessary disclosures."

According to two SEC complaints filed on August 6 in federal district court in Orange County, Calif., Global Materials and five other companies — Angel Acquisition Corp., Marshall Holdings International Inc., NW Tech Capital Inc., Winsted Holdings Inc., and Zann Corp. — improperly registered shares issued under their employee stock option programs on SEC Form S-8 registration statements. The Commission also charged Marshall Holdings’ officers Richard A. Bailey and Florian R. Ternes and Winsted Holdings’ former officer Mark T. Ellis with implementing and administering their companies’ employee stock option programs.

Form S-8 statements may be used to register shares issued to compensate employees and consultants and have abbreviated disclosure requirements as compared to statements registering shares used to raise capital. The SEC alleges, however, that the programs violated the registration requirements of the Securities Act of 1933 by functioning as public offerings that raised capital.

The SEC's complaints further alleged that the companies' programs had features that, taken together, virtually guaranteed that the options would be exercised and the underlying shares simultaneously sold to the public at or near the time the options were granted. First, the options' exercise price, which was typically set at 85 percent of the sale proceeds from the options' underlying shares, floated with the market value of a company's stock at the time of exercise. Second, the options vested immediately, meaning that no conditions needed to be met before the options could be exercised. Third, a cashless exercise method was used so that the exercise price was paid from the sale proceeds of the underlying shares rather than directly by the employees. Other than opening brokerage accounts and signing blank letters of authorization, the companies' employees made no decisions regarding the options' exercise or the sale of the underlying shares during the course of the programs.

The Commission today instituted cease-and-desist proceedings against Alexander & Wade, Inc. (AWI), a San Diego investment banking firm, and its agent James Lee for causing the registration violations. AWI and Lee allegedly introduced the programs to the companies and advised them on how to implement and administer the programs.

The Commission also instituted administrative and cease-and-desist proceedings against Finance 500, Inc., a brokerage firm located in Irvine, Calif. The Commission found that Finance 500 provided the brokerage services for the employee stock option programs despite red flags indicating that the employees were being used as conduits. Finance 500, without admitting or denying the SEC's findings, consented to the issuance of an order censuring it, ordering it to cease and desist from committing or causing future registration violations, and requiring payment of $271,484 in disgorgement and $74,015 in prejudgment interest.

Five companies charged — Angel Acquisition Corp., Global Materials, NW Tech, Winsted Holdings, and Zann Corp. — settled the SEC's charges without admitting or denying the allegations. They all consented to being permanently enjoined from future registration violations, and Global Materials also consented to being permanently enjoined from future fraud violations based on the SEC's allegations that it fraudulently used Form S-8 to enrich Owens through the use of sham consultants.

The Commission's investigation is continuing.

[Schnatzi]

Mal gespannt ob diese Woche endlich mal wieder was geht...

[Schnatzi]

Die News liest sich ganz gut... da sollte doch noch was gehen in den nächsten Tagen...

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WNSH 0.00, 0.00, 0.0%) has agreed to and completed its acquisition of Byers Food Company. The transaction was previously contemplated to be done with another publicly traded company but the transaction was unwound recently between the companies.
"Byers Food Company is the first acquisition in a contemplated string of acquisitions related to the consumer and food products industry," stated Francis Manzo, President and Chief Executive Officer. Mr. Manzo went on to further state that, "We plan to add additional food lines that will complement our two existing product lines and take advantage of our retail distribution contacts in the industry."
Winsted has also settled recently, all claims that the Securities and Exchange Commission had in regards to the conduct of previous management. "We have worked very hard over the last year to clean up the books and records of the holding company and believe that we are now in a position to implement our business plan," Mr. Manzo said.
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Statements contained in this press release that are not based upon current or historical fact are forward-looking in nature. Such forward-looking statements reflect the current views of management with respect to future events and are subject to certain risks, uncertainties, and assumptions. Should one or more of these risks or uncertainties materialize or should underlying assumptions prove incorrect, actual results may vary materially from those described herein as anticipated, believed, estimated, expected, or described pursuant to similar expressions.
SOURCE: Winsted Holdings, Inc.
Winsted Holdings, Inc.
Francis P. Manzo, III
847-441-1822

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[Schnatzi]

Sieht doch für den Anfagn garnicht so schlecht aus...

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Mal sehen ob wir heute die 3 Testen...

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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 34.714.921 von Schnatzi am 13.08.08 09:53:21

We got NEWS -
POMPANO BEACH, Fla., Aug 22, 2008 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Winsted Holdings, Inc.
(OTC:WNSH) announced today that it has appointed two additional members to its
Board of Directors to join Francis P. M anzo, who is currently Chairman of the
Board and Chief Executive Officer. Agreeing to join the board are Mr. Richard
Lucchesi and Mr. Ted Wordlaw.

Richard Lucchesi is President and Principal of Briric Investment Corporation.
Briric is a diverse real estate and development company engaged in projects
primarily in the Midwest United States. Currently, the company is focused on
working with clients in regards to debt restructuring and turnaround consulting.
The company has recently completed a $24 million private placement offering for
prime vacant land in the Ozark region of Missouri. In addition to the above
described activities, the company and Mr. Lucchesi represent clients in buying
and selling properties and retail/office leasing in the Chicago market.

Ted Wordlaw is an active realtor and developer in Chicago. Mr. Wordlaw is the
principal of TJ Wordlaw Realty based in Maywood, Illinois. Mr. Wordlaw is active
in community acti vities and is an active participant in development of
economically depressed areas of Chicago.

"We welcome these businessmen to our board of directors and look forward to
enhancing the management structure of Winsted as we begin to implement the
business plan developed for Winsted," stated Francis Manzo, Chairman and Chief
Executive Officer of Winsted. "I believe that the steps that Winsted is now
taking signal to our shareholders that we are prepared to open a new chapter for
Winsted as we put the past actions of the previous management behind us," Mr.
Manzo concluded.

SAFE HARBOR:

Statements contained in this press release that are not based upon current or
historical fact are forward-looking in nature. Such forward-looking statements
reflect the current views of management with respect to future events and are
subject to certain risks, uncertainties, and assumptions. Should one or more of
these risks or uncertainties m aterialize or should underlying assumptions prove
incorrect, actual results may vary materially from those described herein as
anticipated, believed, estimated, expected, or described pursuant to similar
expressions.

SOURCE: Winsted Holdings, Inc.



CONTACT: Winsted Holdings, Inc.Francis P. Manzo, III847-441-1822




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Winsted Holdings, Inc. Appoints Two Additional Members to Its Board of Directors
Date : 08/22/2008 @ 12:41PM
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Quote : 0.0002 0.0001 (100.00%) @ 1:57PM


Winsted Holdings, Inc. Appoints Two Additional Members to Its Board of Directors




Winsted Holdings, Inc. (OTC:WNSH) announced today that it has appointed two additional members to its Board of Directors to join Francis P. Manzo, who is currently Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer. Agreeing to join the board are Mr. Richard Lucchesi and Mr. Ted Wordlaw.

Richard Lucchesi is President and Principal of Briric Investment Corporation. Briric is a diverse real estate and development company engaged in projects primarily in the Midwest United States. Currently, the company is focused on working with clients in regards to debt restructuring and turnaround consulting. The company has recently completed a $24 million private placement offering for prime vacant land in the Ozark region of Missouri. In addition to the above described activities, the company and Mr. Lucchesi represent clients in buying and selling properties and retail/office leasing in the Chicago market.

Ted Wordlaw is an active realtor and developer in Chicago. Mr. Wordlaw is the principal of TJ Wordlaw Realty based in Maywood, Illinois. Mr. Wordlaw is active in community activities and is an active participant in development of economically depressed areas of Chicago.

“We welcome these businessmen to our board of directors and look forward to enhancing the management structure of Winsted as we begin to implement the business plan developed for Winsted,” stated Francis Manzo, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Winsted. “I believe that the steps that Winsted is now taking signal to our shareholders that we are prepared to open a new chapter for Winsted as we put the past actions of the previous management behind us,” Mr. Manzo concluded.

SAFE HARBOR: Statements contained in this press release that are not based upon current or historical fact are forward-looking in nature. Such forward-looking statements reflect the current views of management with respect to future events and are subject to certain risks, uncertainties, and assumptions. Should one or more of these risks or uncertainties materialize or should underlying assumptions prove incorrect, actual results may vary materially from those described herein as anticipated, believed, estimated, expected, or described pursuant to similar expressions.



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[Schnatzi]

Meint ihr hier tut sich bald mal wieder was?
Ich hab das so ein Gefühl als würde hier bald was passieren... hoffe es geht mal wieder so richtig nach oben...

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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.731.697 von Schnatzi am 28.10.08 16:12:37

Posted by: lifegear Date: Saturday, November 01, 2008 2:15:36 PM
In reply to: ciccio who wrote msg# 36031 Post # of 36038

scottrade still shows it as WNSH but with .75 pps

Montag oder Dienstag wissen wir mehr.

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Material Änderung der Rechte der Wertpapierinhaber, Änderungen der Artikel



ITEM 3.03-MATERIAL MODIFICATIONS TO ITEM 3.03-MATERIAL Änderungen an
RIGHTS OF SECURITIES Rechte von Wertpapieren
HOLDERS INHABER
Aventura Equities, Inc. (formerly Winsted Holdings, Inc.) (the ?Company?) effective October 31, 2008, payable to shareholder on November 3, 2008, all issued and outstanding shares of Common Stock shall be consolidated on the basis of one (1) post- consolidated share of common stock for every 7,500 pre-consolidated shares of common stock outstanding on the effective date (1 new for 7,500 old). Aventura Equities, Inc. (ehemals Winsted Holdings, Inc.) (die? Unternehmen?) Wirksame Oktober 31, 2008, zahlbar an Aktionär am 3. November 2008, alle ausgegebenen und ausstehenden Aktien von Stammaktien werden konsolidierten auf der Grundlage der ein (1) Post-Konzern-Stammaktie für jede 7500 vor-konsolidierten Aktien der ausstehenden Stammaktien über den Zeitpunkt des Wirksamwerdens (1 neu für alt 7500). Pre- consolidated shares outstanding totaled 3,620,241,722 shares. Pre-Konzern im Umlauf befindliche Aktien belief sich 3620241722 Aktien. Post-consolidation shares outstanding are estimated at 525,784. Post-Konsolidierung im Umlauf befindliche Aktien werden auf 525.784.

Any fractional shares, or shares issued below one- hundred (100) shares will be rounded up to the nearest one-hundred (100) round-lot share minimum. The one-hundred share minimum was to adjust and amend all prior reverse stock splits that have cause many shareholders? Jede gebrochene Aktien oder Aktien, die unterhalb von eins bis hundert (100) Aktien werden aufgerundet auf die nächsten ein bis hundert (100) Rund-um-Partie Aktien Minimum. Die ein-hundert Aktien mindestens wurde zur Anpassung und Änderung der alle vorherigen Reverse-Aktien-Splits , die dazu führen, dass viele Aktionäre? holdings in the Company to fall below the 100 share round lot. Betriebe in der Gesellschaft, unter den 100 Aktien Round Lot. Because of prior reversals, many shareholders hold only one pre-consolidated share. Aufgrund der vorherigen Auflösungen, viele Aktionäre halten nur ein Pre-Konzern-Aktie. The new stock symbol is AVNE.PK. Die neue Stock-Symbol ist AVNE.PK.

The Company felt it was in the best interest of all shareholders to enact the above change. Das Unternehmen selbst war es ein im besten Interesse aller Aktionäre zu erlassen die oben ändern. The Company?s efforts in attracting and acquiring related business entities would require the exchange of new Common Stock, and the pre-consolidated outstanding shares would be considered unattractive to potential merger candidates. Die Gesellschaft? S Anstrengungen bei der Werbung und den Erwerb von Unternehmen im Zusammenhang Einrichtungen erfordern würde den Austausch von neuen Common Stock, und die vor-konsolidierten ausstehenden Aktien würde als unattraktiv für potenzielle Kandidaten Fusion.

ITEM 5.02 ELECTION OF DIRECTORS ITEM 5/02 Wahl von Direktoren

The Company has elected/appointed two new directors to Die Gesellschaft hat gewählt / bestellt zwei neue Direktoren zu
the Board, Mr. Richard Lucchesi and Mr. Ted Wordlaw, both from the Chicago, Illinois area. der Vorstand, Herr Richard Lucchesi und Mr. Ted Wordlaw, die beide von der Chicago, Illinois Bereich.





ITEM 5. ITEM 5. AMENDMENTS TO ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION Änderungsanträgen zu den Artikeln der Gründung der Gesellschaft
The Company has changed its? Die Gesellschaft hat sich verändert seine? corporate name to AVENTURA EQUITIES, INC., and received confirmation of its filing of the appropriate articles with the State of Florida Secretary of State?s office. Firma zu AVENTURA EQUITIES, INC, und erhielt die Bestätigung der Einreichung der entsprechenden Artikel mit dem Staat Florida Secretary of State? s Büro. The State of Florida has recorded the name change as well as the reverse split. Der Staat Florida hat den Namen ändern, sowie die Reverse-Split.

ITEM 2.01 - COMPLETION OF ACQUISITION and ITEM 2/01 - ABSCHLUSS DER ERWERB und
ITEM 5.06 - CHANGE IN SHELL COMPANY STATUS ITEM 5/06 - Veränderung in der Schale Unternehmen Status

The Company has acquired Byers Food Company for 100,000,000 shares of Class A Preferred Stock. Die Gesellschaft hat Byers Food Company für 100000000 Aktien der Klasse A Preferred Stock. Byers Food Company was owned and controlled by the Company?s Byers Food Company wurde und sich im Besitz von der Gesellschaft? S
controlling shareholder and its? Mehrheitsaktionär und ihre? President. Der Präsident. The transaction is considered to be a related party transaction. Die Transaktion wird als "nahe stehende Transaktion. As a result of the acquisition, the Company has an operating business and is no longer considered a shell company. Als Folge der Übernahme hat die Gesellschaft ein operatives Geschäft und ist nicht mehr als ein Shell-Unternehmen.

Byers Food Company is in various stages of discussions Byers Food Company ist in verschiedenen Stadien der Diskussionen
with potential acquisition candidates which outcome can not be determined at this time. mit potenziellen Erwerb Kandidaten, die Ergebnisse nicht bestimmt werden kann in dieser Zeit.





ITEM 8.01 - OTHER EVENTS ITEM 8/01 - SONSTIGE VERANSTALTUNGEN
The Company?s subsidiary Wintree Energy Corporation has acquired various producing and non-producing oil and gas properties in Texas and Oklahoma in a joint venture with Briric Investments, Inc. as part of its acquisition program. Die Gesellschaft? S Tochtergesellschaft Wintree Energy Corporation erworben hat verschiedene produzieren und nicht-produzierenden Öl-und Gas-Eigenschaften in Texas und Oklahoma in einem Joint Venture mit Briric Investments, Inc. als Teil ihres Erwerbs-Programm. (Briric Investments is owned by a Company director). (Briric Investments ist im Besitz einer Firma Regisseur). The wells are for various fractional working and royalty interest. Die Brunnen sind für verschiedene gebrochene Arbeits-und Lizenzgebühren Interesse. Wintree Energy Corporation?s plan is to build a portfolio of energy properties and assets to enhance shareholder value. Wintree Energy Corporation? S Plan ist der Aufbau eines Portfolios von Energie Eigenschaften und Vermögenswerte zur Verbesserung des Shareholder-Value.

The Company is in discussions with service providers offering an Investor Relations marketing program to assist in the Company?s efforts to inform all investors, current shareholders, and to attract new shareholders, on the Company?s business and prospects. Die Gesellschaft ist in Gesprächen mit Dienstleistern bietet ein Investor-Relations-Marketing-Programm zur Unterstützung in der Gesellschaft? S Bemühungen, alle Investoren, Aktionäre, und um neue Aktionäre, auf die Gesellschaft? S Geschäfts-und Aussichten.

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meine wnsh( AVNE )wurden bis 31.12 gesperrt!

weiß von euch jemand was das zu bedeuten hat?


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[marko_16]

WNSH, was ist hier los?

Kurs CC 0,75 USD????

meine sind auch gesperrt, allerdings bis 31.12.2049

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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.814.157 von marko_16 am 03.11.08 19:58:46

steht bei mir auch,ist bestimmt ein Druckfehler 2049 da leb ich nicht mehr.

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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.814.157 von marko_16 am 03.11.08 19:58:46

Vielleicht hilft das hier:http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=538…