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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.138.440 von Heinz01 am 16.09.08 22:18:56 16:00:35 Z 2.36 +0.36 1,254,400 
ist schon fett oder 
ist schon fett oder 
vielleicht haben wir heute die Nacht der kleinen Überraschungen.
Bei LEH Kurs ausgesetzt, bei WM heute erster positiver Tag.
Auch nachbörslich tut sich was.
Abwarten und Teetrinken. Die Messe ist noch nicht gelesen.
Bei LEH Kurs ausgesetzt, bei WM heute erster positiver Tag.
Auch nachbörslich tut sich was.
Abwarten und Teetrinken. Die Messe ist noch nicht gelesen.
Regional Banks Could Feel Pain If AIG Fails
21:33
By Marshall Eckblad
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
NEW YORK -(Dow Jones)- Regional banks are likely to suffer from a failure of
American International Group Inc. (AIG). The trouble for investors is
estimating how bad that suffering would be.
Regional banks have extensive exposure to AIG, a massive multinational
insurer, since many of them hold AIGs debt within their investment portfolios,
while still more purchased a type of debt insurance called credit default
swaps, or CDS, from AIG. Should Wall Street and the Federal Reserve fail to
agree on a solution to bail out AIG, regional banks could see the insurer
default on its debt bonds, and quickly throw into question the value of the CDS
it sold.
An AIG bankruptcy would create a significant problem for the regional
banks, says Jaime Peters, an analyst at Morningstar Inc. Most regional banks
exposure to AIG is much larger than their exposure to the now-bankrupt Lehman
Brothers Holdings Inc. (LEH).
AIG has issued billions in dollars of debt, especially since the onset of the
mortgage-fueled financial crisis, and much of that debt is sitting in the
investment portfolios of many institutions around the globe, says Jeff Davis,
an analyst at FTN Midwest, a unit of First Horizon National Corp. (FHN). AIGs
debt at one point carried very safe ratings, making it a classic choice for
banks looking to fill their bond portfolios with stable investments.
But figuring out which regional banks holds outsized holdings in AIG debt,
and are therefore most vulnerable to its failure, is not simple.
The difficulty is we dont exactly know whats in most securities
portfolios at banks, says Tim Coffey, an analyst at FIG Partners.
Whats more, the market for credit-default swaps, which banks use to hedge
the risk carried by loans they make to commercial borrowers, is notoriously
opaque. The swaps are, in essence, contracts between two parties where one firm
- in this case, the insurer - agrees to repay the other firm - a bank - should
a specified borrower default on debt that it owes.
Banks use many similar kinds of agreements, which are known generically as
derivatives.
Wachovia Corp. (WB), for example, held $23 billion worth of derivatives in
its trading portfolio, as of June 30, according to a recent filing from the
company.
A spokeswoman for the company did not immediately provide details about how
much exposure, if any, Wachovia has to AIG.
According to a recent filing from Washington Mutual Inc. (WM), for example,
the gross positive fair value of the West Coast thrifts derivatives
portfolio was $1.79 billion as of June 30. Its net exposure to the credit of
opposite parties in those transactions - which is known as counterparty risk
- was $405 million.
Washington Mutual said in a release Monday that it has no trading exposure
to AIG.
AIG is a major player in that market, says Davis, and has entered into untold
numbers of these contracts around the globe. The issue with AIG is that it is
so massive, says Davis.
-By Marshall Eckblad, Dow Jones Newswires; 201-938-4306;
marshall.eckblad@dowjones.com
Click here to go to Dow Jones NewsPlus, a web front page of todays most
important business and market news, analysis and commentary:
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this link on the day this article is published and the following day.
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09-16-08 1533ET
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15:33 091608
© DJN
21:33
By Marshall Eckblad
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
NEW YORK -(Dow Jones)- Regional banks are likely to suffer from a failure of
American International Group Inc. (AIG). The trouble for investors is
estimating how bad that suffering would be.
Regional banks have extensive exposure to AIG, a massive multinational
insurer, since many of them hold AIGs debt within their investment portfolios,
while still more purchased a type of debt insurance called credit default
swaps, or CDS, from AIG. Should Wall Street and the Federal Reserve fail to
agree on a solution to bail out AIG, regional banks could see the insurer
default on its debt bonds, and quickly throw into question the value of the CDS
it sold.
An AIG bankruptcy would create a significant problem for the regional
banks, says Jaime Peters, an analyst at Morningstar Inc. Most regional banks
exposure to AIG is much larger than their exposure to the now-bankrupt Lehman
Brothers Holdings Inc. (LEH).
AIG has issued billions in dollars of debt, especially since the onset of the
mortgage-fueled financial crisis, and much of that debt is sitting in the
investment portfolios of many institutions around the globe, says Jeff Davis,
an analyst at FTN Midwest, a unit of First Horizon National Corp. (FHN). AIGs
debt at one point carried very safe ratings, making it a classic choice for
banks looking to fill their bond portfolios with stable investments.
But figuring out which regional banks holds outsized holdings in AIG debt,
and are therefore most vulnerable to its failure, is not simple.
The difficulty is we dont exactly know whats in most securities
portfolios at banks, says Tim Coffey, an analyst at FIG Partners.
Whats more, the market for credit-default swaps, which banks use to hedge
the risk carried by loans they make to commercial borrowers, is notoriously
opaque. The swaps are, in essence, contracts between two parties where one firm
- in this case, the insurer - agrees to repay the other firm - a bank - should
a specified borrower default on debt that it owes.
Banks use many similar kinds of agreements, which are known generically as
derivatives.
Wachovia Corp. (WB), for example, held $23 billion worth of derivatives in
its trading portfolio, as of June 30, according to a recent filing from the
company.
A spokeswoman for the company did not immediately provide details about how
much exposure, if any, Wachovia has to AIG.
According to a recent filing from Washington Mutual Inc. (WM), for example,
the gross positive fair value of the West Coast thrifts derivatives
portfolio was $1.79 billion as of June 30. Its net exposure to the credit of
opposite parties in those transactions - which is known as counterparty risk
- was $405 million.
Washington Mutual said in a release Monday that it has no trading exposure
to AIG.
AIG is a major player in that market, says Davis, and has entered into untold
numbers of these contracts around the globe. The issue with AIG is that it is
so massive, says Davis.
-By Marshall Eckblad, Dow Jones Newswires; 201-938-4306;
marshall.eckblad@dowjones.com
Click here to go to Dow Jones NewsPlus, a web front page of todays most
important business and market news, analysis and commentary:
http://www.djnewsplus.com/al?rndFt66e2BXvbMLa7fjXiGgXbQ3D3D. You can use
this link on the day this article is published and the following day.
(END) Dow Jones Newswires
09-16-08 1533ET
Copyright (c) 2008 Dow Jones & Company, Inc.
15:33 091608
© DJN
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WaMu's $143 Billion Retail Deposit Base May Buy Time for Lender
By Ari Levy
Sept. 16 (Bloomberg) -- Washington Mutual Inc.'s $143 billion in retail deposits may buy Chief Executive Officer Alan Fishman enough time to prove wrong speculators who say the bank will follow Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. into oblivion.
The reason: WaMu, the biggest U.S. savings and loan, funds its daily business with federally insured deposits at its 2,300 branches, instead of short-term lending from other companies. With no sign that customers are defecting, and another $50 billion on hand for liquidity, newly hired Fishman may ride out the turmoil that halved WaMu's market value in a week. The stock rose 12 percent today after plunging 27 percent yesterday.
``It takes millions of people making that decision to drive the bank under, as opposed to three banks with exposure to Lehman that say they don't want to renew loans,'' said Charles Haley, professor emeritus of finance at the University of Washington's Foster School of Business in Seattle. ``It's a very different scenario.''
WaMu shares jumped after the company said Standard & Poor's decision yesterday to cut the lender's credit rating to junk, matching a move by Moody's last week, won't have a ``material'' effect. WaMu rose 24 cents to $2.24 as of 12:23 p.m. The stock tumbled yesterday as Lehman filed for bankruptcy and Merrill Lynch & Co. agreed to sell itself to Bank of America Corp. for $50 billion.
WaMu spokesman Brad Russell declined to comment.
No JPMorgan Talks
WaMu's sinking market value leaves it worth close to the $4 a share that JPMorgan Chase & Co. was willing to pay in March, reviving speculation that Fishman may put the entire bank up for sale. JPMorgan isn't in talks to acquire Seattle-based WaMu, a person briefed on the matter said Sept. 12.
S&P acknowledged that WaMu's deposit base is stable, saying in its statement about the downgrade yesterday that the company has enough liquidity to meet all fixed obligations through 2010. ``The bank is operating with adequate capital positions from a regulatory perspective and has demonstrated funding resilience as the deposit franchise has remained stable,'' S&P said.
Investors have soured on WaMu on concern mounting losses from subprime and option adjustable-rate mortgages may force the bank to raise more capital, diluting existing holders' stakes. WaMu said last week that retail deposits are unchanged from a year earlier, down 4.4 percent from June, and that the bank has plenty of cash to operate as it works through losses.
``This is a great time to build a company,'' Fishman said in a Sept. 8 interview.
`Happy Thoughts'
WaMu's main regulator, the Office of Thrift Supervision, is watching the situation. ``We're aware of the situation and we are monitoring it closely,'' OTS spokesman Bill Ruberry said today in a telephone interview.
WaMu management is trying to reassure employees.
``Think Happy Thoughts,'' Bob Bjorklund, an executive in the bank's Capital Strategies department, told staff in an e- mail on Sept. 12, the Seattle Times reported. ``It's going to be ugly out there today and over the next several weeks, but when in doubt, repeat after me: ``$50 billion dollars.''
The plunge in WaMu's stock price will make it harder for the company to raise fresh capital, a step the lender says it doesn't need to take because it has that $50 billion on hand. Still, analysts including Bert Ely, president of Ely & Co. in Alexandria, Virginia, have said WaMu may be forced to sell branches in New York and Chicago.
WaMu's sliding stock price may prompt concern by customers that the bank is in trouble, said Sean Egan, president of Egan- Jones Ratings Co. in Haverford, Pennsylvania.
CD Rates
``Anyone who picks up the paper can see WaMu has lost more than 80 percent of its market capitalization over the past year,'' Egan said. ``Rest assured, depositors are looking at that and growing anxious.''
WaMu uses money that consumers deposit in savings accounts and certificates of deposit to lend to other customers, primarily for mortgages. At the end of June, WaMu customers had 42.4 million accounts, almost all with less than the federally insured maximum of $100,000, according to data from the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.
To attract deposits, WaMu offers higher CD rates than competitors. The bank offers a 4.25 percent eight-month CD online. Bank of America pays 3.2 percent for a seven-month term. Wells Fargo & Co.'s rates on five- and nine-month CDs are less than 3 percent.
The deposits may not be enough to save WaMu because of the prospect for losses on subprime loans, said Donald Putnam, managing partner at Grail Partners LLC in San Francisco. WaMu expects up to $19 billion in losses over the next 2 1/2 years.
Fishman remains confident.
``I only have five or six complex risks that I have to manage,'' he said in a Sept. 8 interview. ``Another guy's got 400 complex risks, like derivatives books in Belgium and God knows what all.''
To contact the reporters on this story: Ari Levy in San Francisco at alevy5@bloomberg.net
Last Updated: September 16, 2008 12:29 EDT
WaMu's $143 Billion Retail Deposit Base May Buy Time for Lender
By Ari Levy
Sept. 16 (Bloomberg) -- Washington Mutual Inc.'s $143 billion in retail deposits may buy Chief Executive Officer Alan Fishman enough time to prove wrong speculators who say the bank will follow Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. into oblivion.
The reason: WaMu, the biggest U.S. savings and loan, funds its daily business with federally insured deposits at its 2,300 branches, instead of short-term lending from other companies. With no sign that customers are defecting, and another $50 billion on hand for liquidity, newly hired Fishman may ride out the turmoil that halved WaMu's market value in a week. The stock rose 12 percent today after plunging 27 percent yesterday.
``It takes millions of people making that decision to drive the bank under, as opposed to three banks with exposure to Lehman that say they don't want to renew loans,'' said Charles Haley, professor emeritus of finance at the University of Washington's Foster School of Business in Seattle. ``It's a very different scenario.''
WaMu shares jumped after the company said Standard & Poor's decision yesterday to cut the lender's credit rating to junk, matching a move by Moody's last week, won't have a ``material'' effect. WaMu rose 24 cents to $2.24 as of 12:23 p.m. The stock tumbled yesterday as Lehman filed for bankruptcy and Merrill Lynch & Co. agreed to sell itself to Bank of America Corp. for $50 billion.
WaMu spokesman Brad Russell declined to comment.
No JPMorgan Talks
WaMu's sinking market value leaves it worth close to the $4 a share that JPMorgan Chase & Co. was willing to pay in March, reviving speculation that Fishman may put the entire bank up for sale. JPMorgan isn't in talks to acquire Seattle-based WaMu, a person briefed on the matter said Sept. 12.
S&P acknowledged that WaMu's deposit base is stable, saying in its statement about the downgrade yesterday that the company has enough liquidity to meet all fixed obligations through 2010. ``The bank is operating with adequate capital positions from a regulatory perspective and has demonstrated funding resilience as the deposit franchise has remained stable,'' S&P said.
Investors have soured on WaMu on concern mounting losses from subprime and option adjustable-rate mortgages may force the bank to raise more capital, diluting existing holders' stakes. WaMu said last week that retail deposits are unchanged from a year earlier, down 4.4 percent from June, and that the bank has plenty of cash to operate as it works through losses.
``This is a great time to build a company,'' Fishman said in a Sept. 8 interview.
`Happy Thoughts'
WaMu's main regulator, the Office of Thrift Supervision, is watching the situation. ``We're aware of the situation and we are monitoring it closely,'' OTS spokesman Bill Ruberry said today in a telephone interview.
WaMu management is trying to reassure employees.
``Think Happy Thoughts,'' Bob Bjorklund, an executive in the bank's Capital Strategies department, told staff in an e- mail on Sept. 12, the Seattle Times reported. ``It's going to be ugly out there today and over the next several weeks, but when in doubt, repeat after me: ``$50 billion dollars.''
The plunge in WaMu's stock price will make it harder for the company to raise fresh capital, a step the lender says it doesn't need to take because it has that $50 billion on hand. Still, analysts including Bert Ely, president of Ely & Co. in Alexandria, Virginia, have said WaMu may be forced to sell branches in New York and Chicago.
WaMu's sliding stock price may prompt concern by customers that the bank is in trouble, said Sean Egan, president of Egan- Jones Ratings Co. in Haverford, Pennsylvania.
CD Rates
``Anyone who picks up the paper can see WaMu has lost more than 80 percent of its market capitalization over the past year,'' Egan said. ``Rest assured, depositors are looking at that and growing anxious.''
WaMu uses money that consumers deposit in savings accounts and certificates of deposit to lend to other customers, primarily for mortgages. At the end of June, WaMu customers had 42.4 million accounts, almost all with less than the federally insured maximum of $100,000, according to data from the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.
To attract deposits, WaMu offers higher CD rates than competitors. The bank offers a 4.25 percent eight-month CD online. Bank of America pays 3.2 percent for a seven-month term. Wells Fargo & Co.'s rates on five- and nine-month CDs are less than 3 percent.
The deposits may not be enough to save WaMu because of the prospect for losses on subprime loans, said Donald Putnam, managing partner at Grail Partners LLC in San Francisco. WaMu expects up to $19 billion in losses over the next 2 1/2 years.
Fishman remains confident.
``I only have five or six complex risks that I have to manage,'' he said in a Sept. 8 interview. ``Another guy's got 400 complex risks, like derivatives books in Belgium and God knows what all.''
To contact the reporters on this story: Ari Levy in San Francisco at alevy5@bloomberg.net
Last Updated: September 16, 2008 12:29 EDT
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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 35.133.602 von Thewatcherone am 16.09.08 17:37:56YEP,
trotz allem sollten hier die leute aufpassen mit ihrem SL
hier wird nicht getaxt mit 1,51 dann 1,52 etc. sondern der MM
taxt hier ganz clever und vorllame den RT amiland immer im auge
haben.
als vorbörslich WM mit miniumsätze bis auf 1,65 runter ging,
dachte ich JETZT aber schnell ne order.
ging dann schlagartig hoch auf 1,8 wieder auf 1,7 usw.
passt auf was ihr mit euren verkaufsorder macht.
bei so miniumsätzen drücken viele und der MM freut sich
ich auch
kurs bleibt stabil 2 - 2,2
und morgen vorbörslich gehts wieder zittrig unter 2 und
dann schlag ich wieder zu
trotz allem sollten hier die leute aufpassen mit ihrem SL
hier wird nicht getaxt mit 1,51 dann 1,52 etc. sondern der MM
taxt hier ganz clever und vorllame den RT amiland immer im auge
haben.
als vorbörslich WM mit miniumsätze bis auf 1,65 runter ging,
dachte ich JETZT aber schnell ne order.
ging dann schlagartig hoch auf 1,8 wieder auf 1,7 usw.
passt auf was ihr mit euren verkaufsorder macht.
bei so miniumsätzen drücken viele und der MM freut sich
ich auch
kurs bleibt stabil 2 - 2,2
und morgen vorbörslich gehts wieder zittrig unter 2 und
dann schlag ich wieder zu
CORRECT: Janus Twenty Had 1.5 Invested In Lehman On June 30
19:45
Janus Capital Groups (JNS) Janus Twenty Fund had 1.5 of its assets invested
in Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. (LEH) as the end of the second quarter.
(An item at 3 p.m. EDT Monday incorrectly stated that Janus Twenty had 5 of
its assets invested in Lehman as of June 30.)
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Janus Capital Groups (JNS) Janus Twenty Fund had 1.5 of its assets invested
in Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. (LEH) as the end of the second quarter.
(An item at 3 p.m. EDT Monday incorrectly stated that Janus Twenty had 5 of
its assets invested in Lehman as of June 30.)
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Downside: 60%, Fair
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