SINO-I.COM setzt zum Flug an? - 500 Beiträge pro Seite

[flieger]

Eine neue Internetperle ist an den Markt gekommen.
Was haltet ihr von dieser Aktie?
Ist sie wirklich das was Insider sagen?
Will sie jetzt kaufen.

[flieger]

Bin wohl der einzige hier der diese Aktie kaufen will.
Heute schon +20%.
Weiss keiner was über diese Aktie?
Habe mal was im EMI Musterdepot darüber gelesen.

[stesi]

Wo kann man denn nähere Infos erhalten? Gibt es schon über Sino-i.Com Analystenmeinungen?

[Biafra]

Zum Beispiel, indem Ihr in der Boardsuche mal "sino-i.com" eingebt.

Ohne Worte.

[flieger]

Sino-I.com ist eine Tochtergesellschaft von Stone Electronic.
Und Stone ist im Musterdepot von EMI. Kann also keine schlechte
Aktie sein???

[Biafra]

Die Phantasie dieses Wertes ergibt sich unmittelbar aus einem offensichtlich im Januar bevorstehenden NASDAQ-Listing. Ansonsten hat das Papier fundamental recht wenig zu bieten. Man steht halt ganz am Anfang mit seinen INET-Planungen.

Mir persönlich reichte die Chance auf das Listing, um den Wert kurzfristig meinem Depot zuzuführen.

Man wird sehen.

[Alieninter]

Unterschied Sino-i.com (WPK 881283)und Sina.com???
Seid ihr sicher, daß es sich bei "Sino-i.com" um die Firma handelt an der Stone electronics beteiligt ist und die eventuell in 1/2000 an die Nasdac kommen wird? Im EMI wird eine Fa. "Sina.com" genannt auf die diese Erwartungen zutreffen sollen.
Ist jeweils das gleiche Unternehmen gemeint?
Wer kann mich aufklären?
Kurze Quellenangabe wäre sehr nützlich. Vielen Dank.

[Eisi Gulb]

habe grad mal die webpage von sino-i.com und sina.com angesehen. das scheinen zwei komplett unterschiedliche firmen zu sein. wenngleich die namensähnlichkeit verwirrt. leider hat sino-i.com keine englische version seiner homepage, nur in chinesisch, weshalb es schwer ist, über diesen wert infos zu besorgen.

wenn jemand chinesisch kann, sollte er auf die hp und die info für uns lüften. besten dank an denjenigen.

ansonsten bin ich grad noch am recherchieren.

Eisi

[austenit]

Würde mich auch mal interessieren...
Nasdaq-listing hört sich eigentlich schon mal gut an

Flieger: Wie bist du auf sino gekommen?

bis denne,
austenit

[Eisi Gulb]

noch ein paar infos beim www.quam.net gefunden



The Stock Exchange has received a message from Sino-i.com Limited
which is reproduced as follows:-
"This statement is made at the request of The Stock Exchange of Hong Kong
Limited.
We have noted the recent increase in the price and trading volume of the
shares of the Company and wish to state that we are not aware of
any reasons for such increase.
We confirm that there are no negotiations or agreements relating to
intended acquisitions or realisations which are discloseable under
paragraph 3 of the Listing Agreement, neither is the Board aware of any
matter discloseable under the general obligation imposed by paragraph 2 of
the Listing Agreement, which is or may be of a price-sensitive nature.
Made by the order of the Board of Sino-i.com Limited, the directors of
which individually and jointly accept responsibility for the accuracy of
this statement. Dated this 10 day of December 1999
By Order of the Board of Sino-i.com Limited Lam Bing Kwan Director"

[flieger]

Bin durch das EMI Musterdepot auf fnet.de auf sino-I.com
gekommen.Dort wird geschrieben , daß sino-I.com eine Tochtergesellschaft von
Stone electronic sei, und daß diese an die Nasdaq gebracht werden sollte. Hört sich
doch gut an. Habe deshalb heute für 0,05 euro sino-I.com gekauft

[Grobiblau]

sino-i.com hat NICHTS MIT STONE EL. ZU TUN!

Flieger redet mit seinem Halbwissen von sina.com....

sino-i.com ist ein hochverschuldetes Unternehmen, dass aus
einem ehemaligen Textilkonzern hervorgegangen ist und sich
nun auf der Multimedia-Schiene bewegt...

Vielleicht poste ich demnaechst mehr...

Grobiblau

[ShotGunBaby]

finde auch keinen Zusammenhang zu stone

[flieger]

Schaut mal ins EMI Musterdepot von13.12.1999 da stehts geschrieben
SINO und NIcht SINA.

[NM-Hunter]

Hallo

schaut halt mal unter www.sino-i.com nach:

Sino-i.com Limited

The internet and broadband network technologies are now leading us to a new information are at full velocity. Thousands of years ago, man began to evolve and advance upon discovering the imporantance of knowledge. today, this progress is ascending toward a pinnacle.

In leading this evolution toward an information age, the people`s desire for a prosperous society and peaceful life is a key driving force. It is especially so in our country. Sino-i.com`s corporate mission seeks to become a leading impetus in achieving this aspiration and advance toward the new epoch of information and knowledge.

Subsidiaries / Beteiligungen

Information Technology Development

Dadi Media Ltd.
Beijing Zhitong International
Marketing Development Co. Ltd.
China Enterprise.com Ltd.
Beijing Shihua International
Financial Information Ltd.
The Net Paper Ltd.
Greater China Encyclopedia Publishing Ltd.
China Education Online Ltd.
Hong Kong Network TV Ltd.

Dadi Broadband (China) Ltd.
Beijing SiTech Asia Ltd.

Property Development

South Sea Development Co. Ltd.
Liu Wan Development (BVI) Co. Ltd.
Acesite (Phils.) Hotel Corporation

Partnership

Internet Development

CITIC Guoan Information Industry Co. Ltd.

[NM-Hunter]

Hi noch ein paar Infos über das was SINO-I.COM macht (für mich strongest buy)

Dadi Media Ltd. is a wholly owned subsidiary of Sino-i.com. Dadi Media invests, develops and operates Internet content provider services and related businesses. The main website developed and operated by Dadi are:

Business and financial information

http://www.ce.net.cn
http://www.china-enterprise.com
www.sific.com
www.thenetpaper.com

Infotainment

www.dadimusic.com
www.dadicity.com

Education and knowledge

www.educationonline.com.cn
Dadi knowledge database
www.beijing-book.com.cn
Beijing Shitong International Marketing Development Co. Ltd. is a wholly owned subsidiary of Sino-i.com. Beijing Shitong is a specialized marketing and advertisement services company registered in China.

Beijing Shitong International Marketing Development Co. Ltd. holds an advertisement business license in China, thus possessing a strategic foothold in the Chinese advertisement market. By combining an experienced sales force with cutting-edge marketing strategies and business netowrk, Beijing Zhitong delivers customized comprehensive services that aim to generate clientele, advance ad sales, and create successful direct marketing campaigns and internet online advertisments.

Beijing Zhitong also provides multimedia Internet content services, managing the content and operation of client wesites, and serve as agents for the website`s online advertising.

Major clients include:

www.beijingradio.com
www.guoanfc.com.cn

Sino-i.com holds 60% shares of China Enterprise.com Ltd. China Enterprise is an Internet Content Provider registered in Hong Kong, which specialized in delivering financial information, industry specific content and e-commerce online services.

China Enterprise.com operates with a Business-to-Business e-commerce business model. Its main services and products include Chinese and English editions of the www.china-enterprise.com and www.ce.net.cn websites. The websites provide entrepreneurs the most current corporate and financial information, economic news, market updates, and instant stock and security quotes. China enterprise.com has created and is rapidly expanding its voluminous database of more than 600,000 Chinese enterprises and an electronic catalogue of Chinese products, key e-commerce tools to power its role as the key resource for global businesses to Chinese enterprises and the China market. It has formed partnership with leading brands worldwide, including www.Sina.com, to drive growth and offer its memebers and sudience the most comprehensive content and services.

China Enterprise.com provides the following services:

Online value-added services:
international trade statistics, stocks and securities investment analysis, financial software download, management encyclopedia, and other corporate management reference tools.

Internet Services:
domain name registration, website design, website maintenance, etc.

Information services:
Provide round-the-clock most current financial information, market updates, instant stock and security quotes.

E-commerce services:
customize e-commerce program and software services to respond to client or industry specific requirements.

Entrepreneur Training
Sessions:
Organize periodic seminars with experts, scholars and successful entrepreneurs to share professional knowledge, experiences and empower Chinese business executives.


Sino-i.com holds 45% share of Beijing Shihua International Financial Information Ltd. Beijing Shihua is a financial information service provider in China.

Beijing Shihua provides financial data on both China`s stock and securities market, possessing a market hold as high as 80%. Shihua first developed "the financier" software, then combined it with the satellite and cable comunication technologies of its major shareholder, CITIC Guoan, to provide a comprehensive high-tech financial information service, including international and domestic financial information updates, investment analysis and network software development.

Sino-i.com and CITIC Guoan will jointly develop China`s Internet financial information service market, providing China`s 40 million stock traders the most rapid, accurate and useful financial data and market analysis. They will also invest in develop systems in the China market.

www.sific.com

The Net Paper Co. Ltd. is a wholly subsidiary of Sino-i.com. The Net Paper publishes a Chinese multimedia Internet newspaper that provides Chinese readers worldwide the most comprehensive and update economic news and information.

The Net Paper offers the global Chinese community the first multimedia Chinese Internet newspaper with information and content intended specifically for this niche market. To meet the needs of Chinese comunities in different regions, The Net Paper will publish various editions to service the 1.5 billion Chinese worldwide. The North American edition will be the launching edition. Utilizing the most advanced satellite, cable, and network communication system, along with innovative video transmission technology, The Net Paper will provide accurate and timely reports on North American, Asian and international headline news, economic news, community updates and infotainment reports relevant to the Chinese community in North America. The Net Paper has global reportage and editorial netowork spanned worldwide, who will utilize state-of-the-art technology to provide instant and accurate news updates, multimedia reporting, newsmaker interviews, in depth reporting on issues of concern to the global Chinese community from the Chinese point of view.

www.thenetpaper.com


Sino-i.com holds 70% shares of China Education Online Ltd. China Education Online is an Internet online educational service provider.

In coordination with the Chinese government`s modern distance education program, China Education Online, the Ministry of Education`s Education Information Management Centre, and Beijing Educational Science Research Institute have joined forces on a project to develop the Distance Education Resource Storehouse (DERS), and invest in the founding of Chinese Dadi Distance Education Company Ltd.

Chinese Dadi Distance Education Company Ltd. is established on the basis of constructing the complete processing network of the education resource database, to provide all level and category of education the information resources on distance education, including interactive multimedia online course software, teaching and learning materials, media source material, and course information. The first phase of software development has been completed and is undergoing testing. On the basis of resource building, it seeks to develop a comprehensive resource application platform, including online teaching and learning system, education resource search engine, online evaluation and Q&A system. Research and development on the resource application platform will be people oriented and intelligence based, to reflect the people centric ideology. While constructing the DEARS, the resource based writing tools for different course subjects and EPSS electronic support system, and a new generation of unified school network management software will also be developed.

Chinese Dadi Distance Education Company Ltd. has abundant market resources and extensive future for its application. The product`s target markets are set on basic education, career skill training, continuing education, higher education and examination training, etc. According to staistics provided by relavant education departments, 214 million people are receiving basic education; 69,77 million people are receiving adult education, and 3.4088 million people receiving higher education. With the development and increasing prpularity of network comunication technology, and according to the above statistics, a targeted number of participants in the DERS program will be 60 million people.

www.educationonline.com.cn

Hong Kong Network TV Ltd. is a wholly subsidiary of Sino-i.com Ltd. Hong Kong Network TV (NETV) will put in high tech resources, operate paid television, and utilize state-of-the-art network technology to provide diversified programming.

NETV bears the responsibility of providing objective and responsible programming that holds the society`s value at heart, providing quality family oriented programming and not content solely for the purpose of increasing ratings. NETV will provide social organizations and production companies a channel and slot for public broadcasts, and advocate the concern for the community and participation in public affairs.

NETV and Hutchison Telecommunication Ltd. have established strategic alliance to bring broadband services to every family in Hong Kong, changing traditional television viewing methods, combining interactive and information services to raise the Hong Kong living standards. Hutchison Telecommunication is committed to invest large amount of resources into developing broadband network services. The network coverage covers all of Hong Kong. Joining the market advantages of both Hutchison and NETV, NETV`s cable programming will be delivered through broadband cables to very corner in Hong Kong.

NETV has successfully invited international superstar Jackie Chan to be the publicity ambassador. Jackie Chan`s contribution to the entertainment and cinema world, and his insistence on strict program quality standards, will push forward NETV`s operation standards, and improve Hong Kong`s programming quality and media practices.


Dadi Broadband Network (China) Ltd. is a wholly owned subsidiary of Sino-i.com Ltd. Dadi Broadband Network (China) Ltd. strategically invests in the development of Internet and broadband related businesses.

Dadi Broadband Network (China) Ltd.`s investment domain is mainly concentrate on the development of Internet and broadband technology. Including basic cable and wireless network facilities, broadband technology, including basic cable and wireless network facilities, broadband technology, system engineering, application software and related induarty. Investment target is focused on corporations that have leadership position and growth potential in the Chinese language market.

Dadi Boradband Network (China) Ltd. and CITIC Guoan Information Industry Co. Ltd. established a strategic alliance on June 1999 to jointly develop China`s broadband network, and upon receiving the related government department`s approval, jointly develop value added services on the cable broadband network.

Beijing Chenchong Computer Software Engineering Co. Ltd. is a wholly owned subsidiary of Sino-i.com Ltd. Beijing Chenchong Computer Software Engineering Co. Ltd. is mainly responsible for businesses related in the areas of Internet, broadband system engineering, and software development for Sino-i.com.

The property developments of South Sea Development Co. Ltd. in the PRC are mainly located in Nanjing, Qingdao, Guangzhou and Shenzhen. Among them, those in Guangzhou and Shenzhen are residential mini-city developments.

Nanjing
Nanjing China Tower and Nanjing Jiu Long mini-city Yiju Yuan are the first two finished PRC real estate programmes of South Sea Development Co. Ltd.
Nanjing China Tower is situated in the Xin Jie Kou area of Nanjing city centre, with a 2-storey basement car-park, a 6-storey shopping mall, and 24-storey main building with 192 apartments. The gross floor area of the site is about 46,000 sq. m. The whole project has nearly sold out, except some apartments on the first floor, and the 2nd and 3rd floor of the shopping mall, which are kept for rental purposes. The whole project was completed on July 1997.
Nanjing Jiu Long mini-city Yiju Yuan is a residential mini-city, and is situated outside Guan Hua Men. The site is close to the old airport, and it has a total gross land area of about 11,000 sq. m., with 6 blocks of multi-floor flats with a total of 320 apartments. The traffic network of the mini-city is very convenience, and the price is promising. Together with comprehensive facilities, good scenery and modern mini-city management, therefore all the 320 apartments have been sold out.
The upcoming real estate construction in Nanjing is a high-class residential mini-city project that situated in the conjunction of Cheng Dong Gan Dau and Da Guang Lu in Bai Xia area. The area of the site is approximately 30,000 sq. m., and the total gross floor area will be about 130,000 sq. m. The project is to build multi-storey and high storey residential sites, with shopping mall next to the main street.
At present, the foundation work is in progress, and the proposed development is scheduled to be completed in or about 2002.

Qingdao
The property is situated at the conjunction of Yan An San Lu and Jiang Xi Lu, which is an area in the newly developed town centre. The property comprises a levelled site with an area of approximately 11,500 sq. m., providing a total gross floor area of approximately 80,000 sq. m. A 300-room star hotel, a 2-block of residential and 3-storey commercial development as well as a 3-storey basement car-park are proposed to be erected on the property.
At present, around two third of the foundation and basement work is completed.

Guangzhou
Guangzhou Dong Jin Xin Cheng is one of the big real estate programme of our company in the Mainland. The property consists of a piece of land with a total area of approximately 650,000 sq. m. Good quality together with promising price are the main selling point of the site for promoting to the Guangzhou citizens. The site is situated at Guang Hua Gong Lu, close to the border of Guangzhou City and Hua Du City. The distance between the site and Guangzhou City is just 20 kilometers, with convenience traffic network connection.
The whole project is based on the removal of the Guangzhou International Airport. The new airport is also located on the border of the two cities, and will bring along with new development and investment chances to Hua Du City. This surely makes the Dong Jin Xin Cheng , which is only one-railway distance apart from the new airport, has much larger value-added potential in this condition.
The development is scheduled to be developed in several phases and the whole development will be completed on or about 2004.

Shenzhen -- Liu Wan Development (BVI) Co. Ltd.

Liu Wan Development (BVI) Company Limited is a company incorporated under the laws of the British Virgin Islands on 2nd January 1996. Through a series of acquisition and contractual arrangements, Liu Wan Development Group re-plans a site, which measures 339,100 sq. m. at Shekou, Shenzhen into a modern city development with a total land area measures 1.2 million sq. m.
The planning will be in the stage of development in the year of 2000. On 24th September 1998, Sino-i.com got about 30 percent shareholding of Liu Wan Development, and become the operating partner in the development.
Liu Wan Programme is situated in the reclamation area at the southern tip of Shekou. The area has the view of Shenzhen Bay, facing Yuen Long and Tin Shui Wai of Hong Kong. The site is just 1 kilometers away from the Shenzhen Western Corridor, 1.5 kilometers from Shekou Pier, and 12 kilometers from Huanggan.

Shenzhen Western Corridor
Traffic congestion is always a major cross-border traffic problem between the Mainland and Hong Kong, and causes inconvenience condition for both the economic and trading development. Shenzhen Government had planned to construct the 4th cross-border corridor in autumn 1993, and in November 1997 it submitted the Shenzhen Western Corridor Programme Proposal to the central government, which stated clear about the importance of this project for the economic growth of both Hong Kong and China, and was reported to the States Council. In 1999, an agreement was made between Hong Kong and Shenzhen governments for the development of this fourth corridor.
Shenzhen Western Corrdior Project is cooperated by the cross-border governments, which links Yuen Long and Shekou, and was expected to be built within several years. The Shenzhen government was responsible to build the first stage of the cross-ocean bridge, with the extension from Shekou to Hong Kong. The construction is now in progress. The Hong Kong government is then responsible for the construction parts of bridge landing and traffic network connection, as well as custom building and relevant facilities.
The volume of traffic flow of the Shenzhen Western Corridor is 3 times larger than the volume combination of all 3 cross-border corridors, with the highest volume to 200,000 cars per day. After the completion of the whole project, the time from Kowloon to Shekou will be about 30 minutes, which is half time less than in the present situation.

Sino-i.com holds 24% share subscription right of CITIC`s subsidiary CITIC Guoan Information Industry Co. Ltd. CITIC Guoan Information Industry Co. Ltd. established on 14th October 1997, is a public trading company on the Shenzhen Stock Exchange. CITIC Guoan Information Industry Co. Ltd. mainly develops high tech and information technology, including financial information, satellite communication, cable television network and related businesses.

Sino-i.com and CITIC Guoan Information Industry Co. Ltd. formally established strategiv alliance to jointly develop China`s broadband networks, and upon receiving the related government`s approval, jointly develop value added services on the cable broadband network.

China `s communication / information network has developed very rapidly in recent years. There are more than 2000 municipal, county administrative region level cable TV networks. Cable TV fiber optic cables total length is more than 100,000 km. Cable TV viewership has reached 85 million households, the highest in the world. As the cable and wireless network volume increases, computer usage will become more popular thus further advancing the development trend of the Internet.

Sino-i.com and CITIC Guoan Information Industry Co. Ltd. have established strategic alliance in the following areas:


1. Jointly advance CITIC Guoan Information Industry Co.`s cable television networks and expand the network service area. Expand the household usage of CITIC Guoan Information Industry Co.`s cable networks to become one of China`s major broadband networks provider.


2. Combine the strengths and advantages of both companies, jointly raise capital in China and overseas to develop China`s broadband network market.

3. Combine the experience and success of both companies, jointly develop China`s broadband netowrk service market and invest in establishing an Internet service corporation, to become a major Internet Services Provider in China.


4.
In order to research and develop set-top-box application, broadband network communication hardware and technology, network and system application software in high-tech projects, establish cooperative partnerships with scientific research and, higher education institutions, and set up IT laboratories in Beijing or Shenzhen. ¡C


In accordance with PRC regulation, Sino-i.com will, as the sole agent or on a joint-venture basis, provide information and value-added services for cable TV networks owned by CITIC Guoan Information Industry Co. Ltd., including China stock market updates, financial statistics, flight information, traffic, weather and other information. It will also expand online education, video-on-demand, Internet service provider and IP telephone and other value added services.

[Alieninter]

Hallo Flieger
Ich habe gerade den Original-EMI Börsenbrief vom 13.12.1999 in den Händen. Ich bin zwar Brillenträger, aber eines ist sicher. Dort steht auf Seite 8, daß "stone electronics" eine Beteiligung an SINA.COM hält. Der Begriff SINA.COM wird sogar 2 mal erwähnt. Von SINO-I.COM ist dort und auch in weiteren EMI-Briefen nichts zu lesen. Wahrscheinlich hast Du Deine Infos aus www.fnet.de(13.12.99). Ich bin mir aber 100% sicher daß dort ein Schreibfehler vorliegt und das A mit dem O verwechselt wurde.
Ärgerlich für alle die zu schnell SINO-I.COM gekauft haben.

Ich jedenfalls warte auf den Börsengang von SINA.COM in 1/99. Nur diese Aktie wird vom EMI positiv erwähnt.

Hat jemand bereits Neuigkeiten über Börsengang/WPK usw?

[Eisi Gulb]

an NM-Hunter:

hört sich ja fast einwandfrei ein, was du da gefunden hast. scheint ja wieder ein kleines chinesisches CMGIchen zu sein. oder ist es doch nur eine domänensammlung ?
was mich interessiert ist, wo du das gefunden hast. ich habe auf der homepage von sina-i.com rumgeklickt wie ein verrückter und mir sogar die html-codes reingezogen, aber nirgends ein english-banner gesehen. poste doch bitte die genaue url mit diesen infos. danke, danke

und wenn das dann alles so ist was da oben steht, können wir vielleicht ein schnäpchen schlagen. wer zeit und lust hat kann sich ja mal die o.g. url´s ansehen und berichten, was sich im einzelnen dahinter versteckt. muss nur ne kurze übersicht sein. vielleicht sind wir ja diesmal schneller als irgendein börsenbrief oder die jungs aus amiland.

ich gehe auch davon aus, dass sina-i.com nix mit sino.com/Stone zu tun hat. jetzt komm ich mit den A´s und O´s schon selbst durcheinander ... aber ihr wißt schon, was ich meine.

Eisi

[Eisi Gulb]

nochmal an NH-Hunter:
vergiss das mit dem english-banner, habs einfach übersehen. es ist ganz links unten in der ecke auf der homepage.

das kommt mir aber spanish vor: ich bin mir zu 87 % sicher, dass das gestern noch nicht der fall war ??????????????? hat das auch jemand bemerkt? oder täusche ich mich.

[NM-Hunter]

Hi Eisi Gulb,

die englische Website von sino-i ist realtiiv neu, letzte Woche habe ich nur chinenisches gefunden, bzw letzte Woche hatte die Site noch ein anderes Design mit diesem coolen Intro.
Auf jeden Fall gefallen mir die einzelenen Beteiligungen, die sino-i.com da hat. Für mich auf jeden Fall die CMGI ASIENS!
Deinen Vorschlag, mal alle URLs auszuprobieren halten ich für super. Ich fang von unten an, du von oben, ok?

Übrigens heute +20% auf 0,06 EUR

[Eisi Gulb]

ok, ich mach mich heute abend vielleicht dran, von oben anzufangen. du kannst mir ja eine mail schicken (an meinen benutzernamen).

was mich darüberhinaus sehr interessiert:
es werden auf der HP ja die Gesellschafter genannt. der hautpteil liegt bei dem Chinesen (name vergessen) und bei dieser venture-Firma
CITIG oder so ähnlich).
Frage 1: wer ist der Chinese
Frage 2: wer ist diese Firma

immerhin rund 40 % befinden sich im streubesitz.
Frage 3: wer ist hier der Großaktionär?

wenn mir das irgendjemand beantworten kann, kauf ich vielleicht. darüberhinaus bin ich aber vorsichtig mir Parolen wie "CMGI Asiens". das haben schon viele versucht - die einzig ware CMGI steht heut bei über $ 240. darauf drink ich heute abend ein bier.

[flieger]

SINO oder SINA das ist hier die Frage.
Sino gibts schon
Sina gibts noch nicht

[ShotGunBaby]

Großaktionär ist Mr YU PU CEO von sino-i.com
Mr.Pu war Inhaber der Firma aus der sino-i.com enstanden ist. Typische Mantelaktie.Pu´s Firma wurde von south sea develop. übernommen.Pu wurden Chairman der neuen Firma und Merhaitsaktionär zusammen mit einen anderren Firma die 100%Mr.Pu gehört. Danach wurde ein Anteil con Citic Guan übernommen (Tätig im Kabelgeschäft) der mit Aktien bezahlt wurde. Sino-i.com versucht in diesem Zusammenhang auch ein payTV Angebot in Hongkong zusammen mit Hutchinson hochzuziehen.(Promoter für NETV ist Jackie Chan). Deweitern versucht sino-i.com auch in allen übliche Gebieten des Inets Fuß zufassen(Bücher,Musik,Lernangebote etc) Viel RISIKO, viel Phantersie .
Aber weil ich das Risiko liebe habe ich mir einen Kleinen Anteil ins Depot gelegt.

[Eisi Gulb]

hey baby,
du bist ja ein echter schatz.
obwohl du keine quellenangabe für deine news genannt hast, glaube ich dir ausnahmsweise. die infos von dir stimmen nämlich bisher mit meinen eigenen recherchen überein.
ich denke das risiko nach unten scheint begrenzt. hat jemand von euch mal was in US- oder Hongkong-Boards gefunden ?

ansonsten NM-Hunter und ich machen uns mal über die domains.

Eisi

[Eisi Gulb]

an flieger:
du hast vielleicht ne lange leitung: die frage sina oder sino ist doch längst geklärt. du musst die beiträge schon lesen!

[smelly]

An alle,
ich habe mich entschlossen eine fünfstellige Stückzahl dieser vielversprechenden Aktie in mein Depot zu legen, da mir aus gut informierten Kreisen bekannt wurde, daß ab ca. Mitte Januar nächsten Jahres mit einem wahren Kursfeuerwerk bei sino-i.com zu rechnen ist. Grund: Kooperation in Telekommunikations- und Internetbereich in China bzw. Asien sollen enorm ausgebaut werden. Wenn sino-i.com dabei ein glückliches Händchen hat, rechnet man mit Kursen zwischen 3-4 Euro bis Mitte 2000.

[NM-Hunter]

Hi Smelly,

diese Nachricht von der anstehenden Kooperation klingt gut. Könnest du deine "gut unterrichtete Quelle" mal näher erläutern?
3-4 EUR wäre krass ( wär eine Verfünfzigfachung!)
üBRIGENS heute +20% auf 0,06 EUR

[Eisi Gulb]

Ich kaufe morgen!

[Eisi Gulb]

die heinis aus dem consors-board sind jetzt auch draufgekommen.....

[NM-Hunter]

Hi Eisi,

wo find ich denn die Leute von Consors?

Übrigens hab ich mir mal ein paar Sites angeschaut un ist zwar alles chinesisch, schaut aber gut aus.

CU

[stesi]

Habe ich unter PCCW gefunden:

Sino-i.com Explores China Net Market with Sun
Microsystems

(250)
Dec 23,1999 - 15:39:42 HKT


Sino-i.com Ltd (0250) and Sun Microsystems will join hands to explore the
mainland Internet market. Sino-i.com will use Sun`s products to act as the
hardware application platform of its existing and developing websites as well
as broadband network.

[rocco2]

hi leute,

nichts fuer ungut aber informiert ihr euch ueberhaupt mal ueber eine Firma bevor ihr investiert??

gruss rocco


hier mal die Info von quam.net:

Sino-I.Com [ 250 ]
History

This property investment and development company was formed in 1948 as South Sea Textile Manufacturing Co Ltd. It became listed in 1964 by issuing 600,000 shares at $17 each in the public. The company has massively diluted the stock through additional placements in recent years. The number of shares outstanding jumped from 630 million to 1.7 billion between the middle of 1997 and the end of 1998, diluting the value of ordinary investor holdings by about two-thirds. CIM Co Ltd and China strategic still hold 33% and 19% shareholding in the company respectively. CIM is in turn 50% owned by another firm (Sequence Inv. Ltd) which is 100% owned by Yu Pun Hoi, the company`s chairman. The firm recently decided to pursue information technology opportunities in the PRC and has changed its name from the South Sea Development Company to Sino-I.Com Ltd.

Current

Audited loss for the year to March, 1999, was $386 million, or 36 cents per share, after $258 million of exceptional items compared to a loss of $451 million (72 cents per share) after exceptional items of $300 million. They ¡§improved¡¨ because they didn`t have as many exceptional items this year. However, you shouldn`t keep having exceptional items year after year. The firm dropped its revenue from $712 million a year ago to only $188 million for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1999. If you take out discontinued operations, the revenue drop is only from $586 million last year down to $186 million. Most of that drop is from property sales. Last year, they managed to sell $390 million worth of property, but this year it was a little under $15 million. The company, in its result announcement, focused on a $34 million exceptional loss due to an operation in the PRC. The main issue for shareholders, however, is the profitability of their regular businesses than one off write-offs that ultimately are a small portion of the year`s results.

Future

The company has extremely high levels of debt and not nearly enough cash to service it. The ratio is total debt to equity is over 11 times. They have diluted shares too much, and there`s nothing to stop them from using that tactic again. In addition, the company changed its name and hinted at a bright future in the IT industry in the PRC. If it can`t handle its own core business, it probably shouldn`t be jumping onto the high-tech bandwagon. Not an interesting investment.

[Eisi Gulb]

Naja, vorstehende Meldung ist ja nicht gerader ein Kracher. Wen interessiert es schon, dass Sun einen neuen Kunden hat. Ich hab mir diese Woche auch endlich mal ein Linux draufgeklatscht und hab auch nix für gekriegt. Als Provider ist es ja selbstverständlich das man das Unix von Sun einsetzt, schon allein aufgrund Performance, Stability und Security.

An NM-Hunter:
Deinem Vorschlag von neulich bin ich auch mal nachgekommen. Ich hatte angefangen mal ein kleines Spreadshield zu machen, aber als ich dann rumgesurft habe, musste ich feststellen, dass die o.g. firmen tlw. noch keine freigeschaltete Homepage haben oder nur in chinesisch.

die leute von consors findestet du eben im consors-board. übrigens werden wir als üble Dummpusher beschrieben. solls ihnen den frieden geben.
von meiner warte kann ich sagen, dass ich nicht pushen möchte. ich besitze noch keine Aktien von sino-i.com. für die Consors-heinis sei gesagt: hier wird versucht sich möglichst sachlich über ein wertpapier zu unterhalten und dieser thread soll dazu dienen, sich gemeinsam informationen zu beschaffen und diese zu nutze zu machen, bevor ein kommerzieller Pusher dazu kommt. Danke und Prost!

aber zurück zu sino-i.com.
20 % kurssprünge sind ja nicht gerade der renner von 0,05 auf 0,06. ganz interessant ist aber die kursentwicklung am hang-seng. dort verharrt der kurs bei HKD 0,41 - 0,43. von nasdaq-listing habe ich nix gehört oder gelesen. wäre aber ganz schön, wenn sowas kommen würde (Achtung an Consors-Leser: beachtet den Konjunktiv!).

Eisi

[stesi]

Kurs scheint sich langsam aber sicher in Richtung Norden zu begeben. Kurs liegt momentan bei 0,07 Cent. Wer hat nähere Infos über die Top-News, die im Januar anstehen soll und über die geplante Nasdaq-Notierung? Vielen Dank.

[Eisi Gulb]

wie oft denn noch:
es gibt keine geplante Nasdaq-Notierung!! Du verwechseltst das mit sina.com.

das ist einen ganz private überlegung von mir gewesen.

[stesi]

Entschuldige bitte!
Vielen Dank.
Gruß stesi

[ShotGunBaby]

Ihr wisst wenn Hutchison Tel gehört, nein?

Hutchinson gehört vollständig zu orange!

Noch was zu den alten zahlen.
Die letzten Zahlen stammen aus dem Mai, noch unter alten Namen.
Frage: Würdet Ihr einen Börsenmantel übernehmen, wenn die alte Firma hochverschuldet ist und ihr die schulden mitübernehmen müsstet?
Ich nicht!

Gruß SGB

An eisi gulb
Quelle: HSBC Brocking

[flieger]

Von 0,05 auf 0,09 und keiner merkt es, das sind 90% in zwei Tagen

[stesi]

In Hk soll der Kurs auch heute um 33 % angezogen sein.

[Whity2]

Der Kurs hat nicht an- sondern nachgezogen.
Nachdem sie dort weit über 40 % zugeleget hat, steht sie jetzt umgerechnet immer noch knapp unter 0,09 Euro.....

[flieger]

Die Kurse werden wohl in Honkong gemacht,und da sind sie um
47% gestiegen auf 0,68 Honkong Dollar. Nicht schlecht

[stesi]

Hier noch eine Info:

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17:55 23-DEC-1999
Sino-i.com <0250.HK>plans 40 websites in two years

HONG KONG, Dec 23 (Reuters) - Sino-i.com Ltd said on Thursday it would set up at least 10 websites in the next six to eight months, and a total of more than 40 in the coming two years. "We are a content provider," said corporate development director Zhang Hong Ren in a news briefing.

"We plan to build up 40 to 50 websites in the next two years." "I think at least 10 websites will be built up in the next six to eight months," Zhang added. The websites will provide content including finance, sports news, education and other electronic-commerce related contents.

Sino-i.com on Thursday announced co-operation with Sun Microsystems Inc to develop the Internet market in China.

Sino-i.com will make use of Sun Microsystems` products and technology to develop its Internet services in the mainland and Sun Microsystems will provide technical and marketing support.

Zhang said Sino-i.com would strengthen its co-operation with CITIC Guoan Co Ltd, a firm holding about 18 percent of the company, in building up websites and providing content to cable networks in Wuhan and various cities in China. As part of a deal in June, Sino-i.com has an option to acquire about 24 percent of CITIC Guoan Co`s CITIC Guoan Information Industry Co Ltd <0839.SZ> in October 2000. The Shenzhen-listed firm provides financial and securities information, sets up and operates cable network systems and develops satellite and mobile communications.

Finance Manager Walter Ng said Sino-i.com would continue to dispose non-core assets.

The company`s net assets were valued at about HK$1.4 billion, or HK$0.42 a share. Its cash on hand amounted to HK$30 million and the gearing was about 35 percent.

((Hong Kong Newsroom [phone], Fax [phone] [e-mail])) .


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[Eisi Gulb]

will hiermit nur den alten schinken vom dez.99 wieder mal hochholen,
damit sich einige newbies bei sino-i.com besser ausrüsten können.

Eisi

[mati]

Das sollten sie auch machen. Mal wieder gute Kurse um nachzukufen.

[Cappuman]

Das sind ja die gleichen Aussagen wie bei Cash,im Januar 00.
Fliegt ab ,Rakete gezündet,Kursanstieg, 700% Gewinn, Highflyer,....
bla,bla,bla.Sind hier auch Leute die sich auskennen??????
Oder ist das ein Puscherboard ??????

[Ferle17]

Jungs ich habe heute voll daneben gelegen mit Uproar man dieses scheiß gezocke naja dann kaufe ich jetzt halt Sino nochmals nach !Ich meine wirklich das der Abwärtstrend zu Ende sein wird . Ich hoffe auf einen gesunden Anstieg !

[Memo_2000]

Hallo zusammen !!!
Wer kann mir Informationen und Adressen
über SINO-I.COM geben ???
Möchte evtl. investieren

Danke im vorraus

Memo_2000

[mati]

Du bekommst in den threads hier jede Menge Infos.
Dies ist meiner Meinung nach kei Pusherboard. Die Firma steht im Moment super da und hat optimale Aussichten. Doch die Krise in China/Taiwan drückt ein wenig die Kurse. Abwarten und Geld verdienen.
Asien und China hat bezogen auf das I-Net erheblichen Nachholbedarf und Sino steht in den Startlöchern.
Gruß mati

[Eisi Gulb]

schönen sonntag-abend,
die qualität dieses threads spiegelt sich allein schon in der qualität der hieisigen anfänglichen diskussion im vergleich zu der am 19.3. d.j. angefangenen überschwemmung mit sino-thread wider!

Eisi

[Daniela01]

Hier wechseln mal wieder einige die Pferde!! Hoffentlich paßt der Sattel!