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FeedbackGreat article on related third party transactions
Grenke und das Mysterium der "Related party"-Transaktionenhttps://finanzbusiness.de/nachrichten/banken/article12640598…
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 66.106.579 von Klaus321 am 17.12.20 16:53:28@Klaus321 Sometimes it is better to do a proper DD than to believe in Santa Claus!
$WDI.DE apparently had some issues with their related third parties, $GLJ.DE has their own issues with third parties (management will have to be creative to explain to their shareholders why they paid more for their acquisitions than originally agreed).
https://www.dgap.de/dgap/News/adhoc/grenke-grenke-informiert…
The planned related third party construction of SGT German Private Equity GmbH & Co. KGaA is disclosed on page 13 in the auditors report. Why does one need such construction?
Do your own DD!
$WDI.DE apparently had some issues with their related third parties, $GLJ.DE has their own issues with third parties (management will have to be creative to explain to their shareholders why they paid more for their acquisitions than originally agreed).
https://www.dgap.de/dgap/News/adhoc/grenke-grenke-informiert…
The planned related third party construction of SGT German Private Equity GmbH & Co. KGaA is disclosed on page 13 in the auditors report. Why does one need such construction?
Do your own DD!
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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 66.103.888 von Juergen68 am 17.12.20 14:29:26
It is not my theory that CG offers on Tradegate.
I only stated that the Gerlinger family can make transactions without the need to notify capital markets via this construction. To hide transactions was obviously the reason for this construction.
The first question which comes to mind is why does one do that? Why does he want to hide transactions?
Usually as management one rather has the wish to hide selling shares than hide buying shares, in particular as CG recently also sold shares at the share buyback. Did he say something about whether GG BETEILIGUNGEN UG managed by his brother TG did sell shares at the share buyback?
Zitat von Juergen68: I am sure CG will comment your theory about the sources of shares offered permanently at Tradegate these days. Anyway we all have deserved an update from him about the actual development
It is not my theory that CG offers on Tradegate.
I only stated that the Gerlinger family can make transactions without the need to notify capital markets via this construction. To hide transactions was obviously the reason for this construction.
The first question which comes to mind is why does one do that? Why does he want to hide transactions?
Usually as management one rather has the wish to hide selling shares than hide buying shares, in particular as CG recently also sold shares at the share buyback. Did he say something about whether GG BETEILIGUNGEN UG managed by his brother TG did sell shares at the share buyback?
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Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 66.101.680 von Juergen68 am 17.12.20 11:55:47
Ich möchte das alles eigentlich nicht weiter kommentieren, denn mir ging es ursächlich (siehe mein Themen-Startposting) eben nicht darum Insidern einen Verstoß vorzuwerfen, sondern darum aufzuzeigen mit welchen Order- und Umsatzaktionen (Vergleich XETRA-Buch zu Tradegateumsätzen) möglicher weise viele kleinere Anleger in Sorge versetzt werden damit man relativ billig an ihre Aktien kommt!
P.
Zitat von Juergen68: Moin Peter,
ich stimme Dir zu. Ohne Meldungen kein Insiderhandel ? - das wäre naiv. Auch heute werden bei Tradegate einer schwachen Hand wieder zu EUR 1,66 die Stücke abgenommen.
Gruß
Jürgen
Ich möchte das alles eigentlich nicht weiter kommentieren, denn mir ging es ursächlich (siehe mein Themen-Startposting) eben nicht darum Insidern einen Verstoß vorzuwerfen, sondern darum aufzuzeigen mit welchen Order- und Umsatzaktionen (Vergleich XETRA-Buch zu Tradegateumsätzen) möglicher weise viele kleinere Anleger in Sorge versetzt werden damit man relativ billig an ihre Aktien kommt!
P.
I am sure CG will comment your theory about the sources of shares offered permanently at Tradegate these days. Anyway we all have deserved an update from him about the actual development
Antwort auf Beitrag Nr.: 66.101.680 von Juergen68 am 17.12.20 11:55:47
Bullshit. Please better engage in a proper DD!
CG sold 320 000 shares to a newly formed entity, GG BETEILIGUNGEN UG, installed his brother TG as managing director and shortly after GG BETEILIGUNGEN UG raised capital, so that CG's entity became only a minority shareholder. There is a simple reason for such maneuver: There is no obligation any more to inform capital market about transactions of these 320 000 shares - it is a huge amount and represented roughly a third of the shares which can be attributed to CG and family.
So it could be possible that GG BETEILIGUNGEN UG was your transaction partner, the 'schwache Hand' - who knows?
https://www.northdata.com/GG+Beteiligungen+UG,+K%C3%B6nigste…
http://w.dgap.de/dgap/News/directors_dealings/dgapdd-german-…
Check out Registergericht Frankfurt am Main for an update about the non cash capital raise of SGT German Private Equity GmbH & Co. KGaA
Zitat von Juergen68: Moin Peter,
ich stimme Dir zu. Ohne Meldungen kein Insiderhandel ? - das wäre naiv. Auch heute werden bei Tradegate einer schwachen Hand wieder zu EUR 1,66 die Stücke abgenommen.
Gruß
Jürgen
Bullshit. Please better engage in a proper DD!
CG sold 320 000 shares to a newly formed entity, GG BETEILIGUNGEN UG, installed his brother TG as managing director and shortly after GG BETEILIGUNGEN UG raised capital, so that CG's entity became only a minority shareholder. There is a simple reason for such maneuver: There is no obligation any more to inform capital market about transactions of these 320 000 shares - it is a huge amount and represented roughly a third of the shares which can be attributed to CG and family.
So it could be possible that GG BETEILIGUNGEN UG was your transaction partner, the 'schwache Hand' - who knows?
https://www.northdata.com/GG+Beteiligungen+UG,+K%C3%B6nigste…
http://w.dgap.de/dgap/News/directors_dealings/dgapdd-german-…
Check out Registergericht Frankfurt am Main for an update about the non cash capital raise of SGT German Private Equity GmbH & Co. KGaA
Moin Peter,
ich stimme Dir zu. Ohne Meldungen kein Insiderhandel ? - das wäre naiv. Auch heute werden bei Tradegate einer schwachen Hand wieder zu EUR 1,66 die Stücke abgenommen.
Gruß
Jürgen
ich stimme Dir zu. Ohne Meldungen kein Insiderhandel ? - das wäre naiv. Auch heute werden bei Tradegate einer schwachen Hand wieder zu EUR 1,66 die Stücke abgenommen.
Gruß
Jürgen
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