Gibt es einen Zusammenhang zwischen Egyptair 990 und dem WTC-Anschlag?? - 500 Beiträge pro Seite

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Zur Erinnerung:

EG 990 war am 31.10.99 um 01.49 ET, eine halbe stunde nach dem start von N.Y. JFK, in harakiri-manier in den atlantik gestürzt. die maschine war zuvor aus L.A. gekommen. der start in n.y war eigentlich schon für 22:30 ET geplant, hatte sich aber bis 01:19 ET verspätet. info:

http://www.tagesschau.de/archiv/1999/11/16/aktuell/meldungen…

als crashursache wurde später ermittelt, dass der (ersatz)copilot el batouty die maschine in suizid-absicht in den sturzflug brachte. weitere info unter:

http://aviation-safety.net/specials/msr990/index.shtml

pikant an dem crash sind vor allem 2 tatsachen:

1.dass sich an bord der maschine angeblich insgesamt 7 (bzw. 8) 767!- piloten befanden. neben der eigentlichen crew und der ersatzcrew noch zwei weitere crews als passagiere. (sind hier evtl. welche in den untergrund abgetaucht?)

anmerkung: bezüglich der anzahl der piloten unterscheiden sich die beiden quellen:
http://aviation-safety.net/specials/msr990/index.shtml
http://www5.cnn.com/US/9911/02/egyptair990.list/index.html
http://www5.cnn.com/US/9911/02/egyptair990.list/index.html

2. dass sich an bord angeblich 33 ranghohe äghyptische offiziere befanden, die angeblich beim cia an einem weiterbildungskurs zur bekämpfung radikaler islamisten teilgenommen hatten. (quelle hab ich im moment nicht griffbereit).

Höchst interessant erscheinen aus heutiger sicht auf jeden fall die cockpitgespräche vor dem crash, die sich in weiten teilen um die mitfliegenden „kollegen??“ drehen. Hier ein kleiner auszug:

„........

01:36 cam 1a: what´s your opinion about the crowding on this plane?
01:36 cam 3: what crowding?
01:36 cam 1a: the crew that is aboard this plane.
01:36 cam 3: there is one going back that has simulator and another whome i´ve told in egypt to come back on
the same airplane from l.a. direct to egypt for training ....what difference does it make?
........
01:37 cam 1a: no, it doesn´t make any difference to me. i, i am saying that for their sake.
01:37 cam 3: because those, you see, are not active?
01:37 cam 1a: i know that. I didn´t say anything. but i mean when you are surprised to see people about whom
you don´t know anything. it´s good that you are here, you know. I don´t know, i mean, anybody
could ....
01:37 cam 3: isn´t the extra crew written in the general dec?
01:37 cam 1a: i mean, as long as you are here, there is no problem, you are here. if you were not here, anyone
could tell me „cptn. Hatem“, should i say okay?
01:37 cam 3: no, i sent a telex concerning this operation.
01:37 cam 1a: bravo for you.
01:37 cam 3: ***
01:37 cam 1a: bravo for you, bravo for you, and what about the one that doesn´t have?
01:37 cam 3: what do you mean by the one that doesn´t have?
01:37 cam 1a: the one that comes aboard and doesn´t have any document that says that he schould board.
01:37 cam 3: they´re all reported to the station from egypt. each whith his own shedule. Anyone who will come
back should inform the station in egypt.
01:37 cam 1a: good, what about the one who comes back and nobody knowa anything about him?
01:38 cam 3: i gave my instructions in the station ...
01:38 cam 1a: fine. that´s what i told them, i, i, i´m not a trouble maker. i mean you know me. i don´t need any
headache. i´m telling them i´m looking after all your interests. When you all are covered, neither
the station nor any pilot can argue whith you all, and should anything happen to you, you see,
nobody could say i know nothing about you.
..............
01:38 cam 3: even if somebody makes a mistake, we´ll cover him too.
01:38 cam 1a: i´m not saying anything. i´m not saying anything but i get surprised by three, four people going
back and i know nothing. everyone is telling me that he has work in egypt *
01:38 hot 2a: may god make the seven six prosperous, cptn. Habashi. Tomorrow, we´ll habe a hard time up there
let us be, *uncle haj“.
01:38 cam 1a: why, *uncle“. by god?
01:38 hot 2a: very sweet, may our lord make it prosperous. sweet, sweet.
01:39 cam 1a: have we ever shorted you? (gelächter)
01:39 hot 2a: that´s why i´m saying to you, sir, may our lord make it prosperous, but we´ll have a hard time ...
01:39 cam 1a: this man is saying, he´s saying to you, „even the one that makes a mistake, i´ll cover him.“
i mean, where can you see someone who says that?
01:39 hot 2a: so why are you upset, captain?
01:39 cam 1a: i´m not upset. i´m only speaking because i´m actually finding people about whom i know
nothing, that´s why they got upset whith me.

........ usw., usw., dazwischen kommen und gehen im cockpit ....

01:43 cam 2b: he´s trying to please them. as long as he pleases them, don´t worry your head.
01:43 cam 1a: since when do i worry my head ..... i mean you know.
01:43 cam 2b: they, they ... the word ist that @@@ is making trouble. you are making trouble, that´s what´s
beeing said by everyone. just so you know.
01: 44 cam 1a: i don´t care.
01:44 cam 2b: these guys are a bunch of #. And what´s more, they are being controlled by the guy named, under
the leadership of, of the # named @, you know?
01:44 cam 1a: ***
01:44 cam 2b: don´t worry your head. yu´re good hearted.
01:44 cam 1a: i mean ... you know me, it doesn´t make any difference to me. but when kid´s start that way ...
01:44 cam 1a: i told him, i told him later that if i saw anyone aboard that didn´t get any permission from anybody
and who alsl keeps going back and forth, even whith permission, he won´t fly whith me.
i won´t fly with him, i´m not willing. i don´t want to fly with anyone, even it it comes to me
not flying, and if they can prevent me from flying, that´s fine, what can i say to them?
01:45 cam 2b: these kids are forming a clique whith each other, just so you know, under the leadership of
@@@@ controls that group. He has @ ear, as well .... this kid is clever and cunning.
01:45 cam 1a: who?
01:45 cam 2b that´s him.

...... usw. usw., wieder hin und her im cockpit ..........

01:48 cam 2b (batouty, allein im cockpit): i rely on god, ...... i rely on god (sturzflug beginnt)
01:50 cam 1a (cptn. stürzt ins cockpit): what´s happening, gamil? what´s happening??

.....

01:50 cam 1a: pull with me .... pull with me ....

01:50:38 end of redording



Das vollständige transscript ist zu finden unter:

http://www.ntsb.gov/events/EA990/docket/Ex_12A.pdf

mfg

[Leo6]

das hilft jetzt auch keinen mehr.

[Realisti]

hoff nur dass nicht noch mehr Teppichflieger
auf Verkehrsmaschinen umsteigen